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I have a sister who has been diagnosed with pneumonia and I would like to know if is safe for her to do a Liver Flush, her first one by the way, with her pneumonia. The doctor told her that any form of oil would only make the pneumonia worse other than Helios Sunflower Cooking Oil. She also has severe cold sores on her tongue, they could be canker sores and they bleed at times making it hard for her to eat. I know that the Liver Flush will help her I just don't want her getting any negative reactions. any help is appreciated.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,092,760The liver is fully employed dealing with the pneumonia and doesn't have the capacity to cater for a flush as well. Pneumonia is a serious condition and it could take up to 4 weeks to make a full recovery. I would wait and not tempt fate.
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Thanks Telman, I really like your detailed posts - very informative. My sister has had pneumonia going on six months now and it hasn't gone away. She's been given strong medications anti-bios etc. but nothing seems to be working. she is in alot of pain and the Liver Flush is the only thing that I knew of that could help her. Please advise me on what to do in order to get her ready for the Liver Flush.
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This is a reply to # 1,092,836Is her pneumonia bacterial, viral, or induced by an environmental toxin? Six months is a long time to suffer with that these days. Since she is on meds, she needs to stick with those for now. To gently help her liver, have her drink the juice of one fresh lemon in hot water every morning on an empty stomach. This will also help keep her bowels moving without harsh laxatives. I would also suggest she use some olive leaf either in capsules or as a tincture. Olive leaf is anti-viral, yet very gentle on the system. If she can, she also needs to be taking some probiotics, even if that just means a cup or two of yogurt a day. If she has been on Antibiotics for many months, her bowel flora must be about gone. If she has developed Candida, then her immune system is already too stressed.
I agree that now is not the time for her to flush. Liver Flushing is very safe, but it is stressful on the body. She needs to be very gentle with herself and try to allow her body to heal. By the way, she does need to stay away from all refined sugar, I heard a doctor say that one teaspoon of Sugar will lower the immune system 25% for 24 hours or more.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,092,836Chronic pneumonia is very complicated and its very important that your sister's doctor takes a careful history. I thought you were talking about viral pneumonia but chronic pneumonia is different altogether and puts a different complexion on the subject.
Ignoring viral pneumonia there are basically 4 types, caused by bacteria, fungus, single celled microbes and parasitic worms.
I can understand your desire to liver-flush. If you think its the right or only thing to do and bearing in mind that it is part of a regime suitable for HIV sufferers, then follow your intuition. Pick a period when your sister is at her best and follow the protocol.
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Thanks for all your help guys. She has been to the doc yesterday and they have given her a 5 day course of anti-bios, it's a blue and white capsule but we can't decipher the doctor's writing as to what the name of it is. The only thing that I can do now is wait for her to complete her course of meds and then have her to salt water flushes along with taking a quality pro-biotic supplement to strengthen her immune system so that she is strong enough to handle a Liver Flush.
Hopinso I don't mean to be disrespectful in any way and I appreciate your advice but contrary to what the doc says she needs sugar, not alot of it maybe a little a day and some chocolate three times a week. Her explanation for it is that pneumonia is a very draining disease and you need to keep your energy levels up, any ideas on this? I have told her to do the lemon in warm water every morning and she agreed.
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Jumping in here... I agree with hopinso 100%, and your sister's doctor is right in that she needs energy from sugars, but refined Sugar (incl. chocolate and the like) would be bad choice IMO, unless it is black strap molasses.
She can get plenty of easily available/digestible Sugar from eating raw fruits and vegetables and even more from juicing them, and these foods will encourage healing, not discourage it, as the "white stuff" does. But again, you shouldn't over do even the natural sugars.
IMO, don't listen to the doc on this one! It's a lifetime of refined Sugar and grain products that have lead us to illnesses like pneumonia and a miriad of others.
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There are good sugars and bad sugara. Refined white Sugar will not do any body any good. It will give a brief energy rush, raise insulin levels, and then cause an energy crash. There are mineral rich sugars that will give the necesary fuel (glucose) without damaging the immune system. Consider fresh fruits, sorghum, Maple syrup, and my favorite, evaporated cane juice as an alternative to refined sugar. My naturopath once told me if I had to have something sweet to eat chocolate-just not a lot of it. Chocolate has magnesium, a necessary mineral. A little Sugar is necessary for mineral absorption. Your sister needs both complex carbohydrtes found in green veggies and whole grains for sustained energy, plus a smaller amount of more simple sugars for quick energy. Fruit is probably the best choice for this, but I have no problem with chocolate as long as its not overdone.
That reminds me, I have a bit of Dove chocolate in my pocket, a treat from my supervisor, gotta go now :)
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Six months and the pneumonia is hanging in there and she's still seeing the same practitioner? My disrespect for the medical establisment becomes crystal clear as I explain I would have that dr "practicing" on somebody besides myself !!
I agree with all said about not flushing now. It's not some magical bullet that is going to get rid of pneumonia. A holistic lifestyle, healing the body will though.
Under these circumstances, you sister has 2 choices, IMO, a holistic practitioner who can aide her in making choices that will feed her lungs as she detoxes or making an all out effort to educate herself.
Even allopathics told young mothers back in the 70s "no milk products" when the kids had a cold, that it caused thickening of the mucus involved. Sister needs to avoid all milk, even in processed foods like chocolate.
White sugar is NEVER an answer to getting better, it is poison to the body. What the body is craving is glyconutrients and minerals. Glyconutrients are found in raw fruits and veggies .. when sick, preferrably in the juice of fruits and veggies. Fruits and veggies are full of minerals. One can supplement minerals naturally with things like black-strap or sorghum molasses, organic maple syrup/the darker the better or honey; any of these will give minerals plus sugars that her body can use.
Do i recommend that she get off the antibiotics? Not just cut it out!! She needs knowledge to do this safely ... if it was my sister, I'd be finding her a GOOD holistic practitioner. You can ask in the supplement section of the healthfood store for suggestions. Most healthfood stores these day have seminars and the folks working there know who the best practitioners in the area are.
Suggestions for kinds of practitioners:
chinese herbalist - look for OCM degree
herbalist - look for Master Herbalist degree
naturopathic doctor - ask around for recommendations, some are good, some aren't so good
ayurvedic - ancient Indain (country of) medicine
All of these believe in healing the body as a whole, not treating symptoms. They will know how to support her injured lungs while she gets clean blood that can heal her lungs.
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