With due repsect offered to 'knowledge seeker' AND all the people seeking help from any diseases (including schizophrenia), I feel it is imperative to clear up all the misconceptions in this thread of misleading posts.
The biggest misconception? that Dr. Christopher/Schulze EVER cured anyone of schizophrenia (or any other 'incurable' disease) simply using a few herbal formulas.
In virtually ALL cases of treating anyone for ANY disease (particularly one classified as an "incurable", such as schizophrenia), Dr. Christopher/Schulze first addressed the cause of the illness...and the cause of any illness is not a lack of supplements (substances isolated/extracted from their original plants) OR herbal formulas. This was done with the full Incurables Program, specially customized to the specific needs of each person. Here's a short summation of Dr. Christopher's Incurables Program (which has not yet been customized for any specific disease/issue): http://www.herballegacy.com/Incurables.html and the basics of Dr. Schulzes Incurables Program can be found here: http://curezone.com/schulze/handbook/TNIP.asp (Dr. Schulze was likely Dr. Christopher's greatest student - he took Dr. Christopher's formulas & protocol and ramped them up to be effective in the more toxic world in which we live).
3rd grade science: no life form can sustain life unless it can get/assimilate the nutrition it requires and adequately expel waste.
The body IS hard-wired with the schematics it needs to cure itself from ANY disease state, but it cannot do this if all the organs are congested, it cannot eliminate it's own waste (and the incoming toxins/poisons daily) and it's not receiving adequate nutrition/fuel. Until all systems and parts of the body are working correctly (and without congestion/debris/buildup); waste is being neutralized and or expelled adequately; circulation is adequate; and the body is getting ALL or more of the fuel/nutrition it requires to operate - the natural healing schematics of body cannot work effectively...nor can they fully utilize the herbs to their greatest potential.
Since the cause of schizophrenia (or any disease) is NOT a lack of pharmaceuticals, isolated nutrients, BF&C, B&B, or other herbal blend....it is irresponsible to insinuate or suggest to someone that they can CURE schizophrenia with just these herbs (without altering their diet, cleansing their livers, colon, kidneys, increasing circulation and making other life-style changes).
And it is particularly upsetting to see this suggested by someone that is as knowledgeable of Dr. Schulze/Dr. Christopher's protocols as knowledge seeker is (whether she recommends the herbal products I make & offer or not). In fact, I prefer my name NOT be associated with anyone that suggests that Dr Christopher/Schulze cured schizophrenia (or any other disease) with a few herbs and/or supplements.
Other issues with statements in the posts/thread above:
Here is some help from Dr John R Christopher who said he successfully treated schizophrenia many times. I was listening to his tape today school of natural healing and though he did not talk long on it been in the midst of other questions, here is what he said to use...take these three formulas, also use the b, f and c as a fomentation (explained below) according to Dr Christopher who had clinical success with them with real people with schizophrenia in during his practice.
As you are well aware knowledge seeker, Dr. Christopher did NOT go into the full details of curing schizophrenia on those videos (no one could do that in a few minutes) - if you'd even taken the time to go through his newsletters, you'd find (at the very least) he recommended his full Mucusless diet, series of 3 day cleanses and other/more formulas than you've mentioned.
In addition, I would be sure to do the fish oil mentioned at the bottom. I would also take torula yeast several times a day as a superior source of b vitamins as it helps the nerves and nervous system....Also be sure you are getting all the b vitamins and amino acids daily.
In either Dr. Schulzes OR Dr. Christopher's Incurables Program, a person is getting all the nutrition they need...but ONLY if they're addressing assimilation and elimination adequately. So "you" recommend other things than Dr. Christopher/Schulze. Hmmm, I didn't know you'd treated & cured people of schizophrenia. :::sigh:::
note --use Clark's rule for dosing if you weigh a lot more or less than 150..see next post.
Clark's rule for dosing may be a starting place for some, but herbal dosage is not always "weight dependent" - we are NOT dealing with chemicals & pharmaceuticals here! Each individual herb/food reacts naturally inside of everyone's body differently, depending upon the state of each individual body. A full/effective dose of cayenne tincture for me is 2 dropperful; my cousin weighs less, but needs 6 droppersful to achieve the same effect. I have to take 8-12 droppersful of any type of sedative herb/blend to feel an effect, but many that weigh more than me take FAR less.
Dr Christopher who gave these prescriptions of the three formulas on his tapes, school of natural healing (total 8 tapes..this info was on tape 8..no longer in print) when asked how to help schizophrenics said he had success with these three formulas for schizophrenics
The tapes you are referring to (their actual name is: Herbalist Seminar) have been transferred to DVD's and are available at the School of Natural Healing website here: http://www.christopherpublications.com/Seminar_Videos.html The set can still be found regularly on eBay in VHS format for MUCH less, and all 8 tapes come with every set.
the nine herb formula to speed it up I am pretty sure he is here referring to the nerve formula called nine herbs formula he refers to as relax-ese..this is also the one in his book the school of natural healing
You've posted explaining to others how Dr. Christopher cured people of schizophrenia, and you are GUESSING at what formula he meant?
he says this about one of the causes of the nerve sheath becoming frayed through our diets in this quote from his website herballegacy.com..."the sheaths of the nerves have been worn or eaten away by the calcium having been leached off with the sugars that we take so much in beverages, candies, pastries and from the many breads that turn to sugar in the body....When the sheaths are thus worn off the nerves lose their energy and their power."
And he also says (from his newsletter), that one should also use his Herbal Calcium formula in conjunction with this...and the Herbal Calcium formula was required on his Incurables Program because it is MUCH higher in calcium & silica (silica converts to calcium in the body) to restore the myelin sheath.
more on the b, f and c formula and its use here http://www.herballegacy.com/Complete_Tissue.html
Just to clarify for those that don't know, what Christopher's company sells now is NOT the original formula stated in the link above. To get his original BF&C (now called Complete Tissue) you have to make it yourself, and get it from someone that makes it following his original formula.
The reason the b, f and c is used, Christopher said, is it rebuilds the nerves and nerve sheath (lecithin and nutritional yeast (torula) also help rebuild the nerve sheath/nerves for things like MS, Lou Gehrig's etc) so maybe add some of that to smoothies, nut butters, and applesauce).
I have never seen any Dr. Christopher references to Torula yeast - he always recommended Brewer's Yeast. Dr. Schulze prefered Red Star. Since the quality of Torula varies IMMENSELY (it is grown on many different things)...when telling others how Dr. Christopher healed people, I'd think you'd want to stick to the truth (I'm sure those reading would appreciate it).
These herbs leech out the inorganic materials and feed back in the organic materials that feed the brain. They also remove worms (in the brain I assume he means)...its a vermifuge in itself. He says they have seen it do "absolutely miraculous things."
I don't know why you'd assume that, or tell people that if you don't know it to be true. But you can be assured, anyone that has parasites in their brain need a LOT more than just BF&C to rid themselves of them.
buy organic or wildcrafted bulk herbs to make your tincture with 80 proof grain alcohol (vodka)
100 proof vodka is preferable...and if buying wildcrafted herbs, make sure they ARE wildcrafted. The term "wildcrafted" by herbal sellers is frequently a way to sell toxic/poor herbs grown in third world countries: "Wildcrafted Herbs" - THE BIG SCAM
I do not think she sells the nine herb formula (relax ese) but she may customize it if you tell her the nine herbs in it and to use one part of each herb as she says she does customize and she does make other Dr Christopher formulas
Correct, I do not (yet) have the nine herb 'nervine' of Dr. Christophers; I do have Dr. Schulzes eight herb 'nervine' (herbal ingredients below). The reason I haven't yet made Dr. Christopher's, is that it's VERY difficult to find Lady's Slipper in the US (it is extremely endangered). I have a source from Canada, but the cost is certainly prohibitive (around $250 per pound). Also, taken in extremely high doses, Lady's Slipper can have a slight hallucinogenic effect - similar to cannabis, not like LSD (but it's very unlikely that one could ingest that big of a dose when taking it in an herbal blend with eight others), but it's always been a concern. However, Lady's Slipper is a VERY beneficial herb for 'nervous stress' & 'nervous insomnia' (so it may be very effective for those with adrenal issues); depression; and it's also a very effective pain reliever....so it's likely I'll try to get a pound, tincture it, and give it a good testing after the first of the year (tinctured by itself and in Dr. Christopher's formula).
Dr. Schulzes formula is a good substitute (it's in our Storefront as Nerve Sedative):
Black Cohosh root
Blue Cohosh root
Wild Yam root
if anyone buys it and it contains more info not given here, could you please post that here to help others. I have not heard the tape there nor do I know what is on it, but it may be of help....thanks
Yes, I have this (I paid retail, almost $100). It is TERRIBLE! The content is good (a few of Dr. Christopher's newsletters), but you'd be MUCH better off reading them, as the person that is reading the newsletters talks EXTREMELY fast and has and even more extremely annoying voice/quality. I listened to 3 minutes of a couple of the selections, and that was all I could tolerate.
Again, I do appreciate you mentioning that I make/off top-quality products from Dr. Christopher's original formula (and others)...but I do not want to be associated with anybody that misleads & misinforms people by insinuating or instructing that they can realize the cures Christopher/Schulze accomplished, by just taking a few of the herbal formulas. Knowledge seeker, you and I have spoken via email & PM, and I am very aware that you already DO know that Christoper/Schulze used far more than "herbs" when accomplishing their myriads of cures...so I have no idea why you'd post such misleading information (and I don't care to know your reason, or discuss it further).
What I do care about (very deeply and sincerely) is that people have the knowledge AND the quality herbal products they need to heal themselves. I'm not interested in 'making it seem easier' than it really is, just to lighten someones wallet and then hope that maybe it's "enough" to give them some benefit. My fellow brother & sisters on this planet deserve to know & learn how the greatest natural healers that ever lived, actually healed people...that knowledge is imperative for them to be able to heal themselves.
Healthiest of blessings,