"Because acids control yeast, and alkalinity promotes it."
This is contrary to everything known about candida.
No, only contrary to the myths about Candida and pH. If you do a little search I posted a bunch of scientific abstracts proving this point. That is what is "known" about Candida. The rest is what is assumed about Candida because there is no evidence to back the claim.
By the way, why do you think people get yeast overgrowth in their stomachs when their stomach acidity goes down? And how do you think the intestinal flora control yeast in the intestines, or the flora in female organs or on the skin control yeast? The flora do this through the production of acids (lactic, acetic, fatty acids). For example, the reason women get yeast infections or people can get bloating or thrush after antibiotic use is because the antibiotics kill off the Lactobacillus bacteria that form the acids that keep the Candida under control. The antibiotics therefore cause the pH to shift to the alkaline side causing yeast overgrowth. Same goes for the reason women can get yeast infections if they get soap in the vagina. The soap is very alkaline, which shifts the pH to the alkaline side making the perfect environment for the Candida to thrive. The same reason vinegar and water douches are often recommended for vaginal Candida infections.
If you take a minute and really think about it all the places where Candida normally exists are all areas of the body that are naturally acidic to begin with. The skin, the female organs, and the intestines. It is the acidity from the flora that maintain this naturally acidic environment to PREVENT the overgrowth of Candida. That is what is KNOWN about Candida!!!
If what you are saying is true then why did the acidity of the vinegar have no effect ?
That is hard to say since we don't have enough information to go on. Maybe they were washing the vinegar smell out after while with soap, which is highly alkaline. Maybe it was a wring diagnosis as many other conditions can look like yeast infections.
if acidity is what causes candida then why is it most people here developed this candida on a highly acidic western diet?
Tell you what. If you can answer this question then you will have your answer. Why is true acidosis is extremely rare despite the Western diet?
just because the body does not go into true acidosis does not mean it is not being stressed
alkaline minerals are used to buffer the acids , you will get other symptoms before developing true acidosis
Actually acidosis is very rare because the body has many redundant systems to maintain a proper pH. That is because both acidosis and alkalosis are dangerous to the body. So the body uses various mechanisms to stay within this narrow pH range it can survive in.
My truth is what works, And it seems you are the one spreading information that is contrary to what many have achieved through proper nutrition.
Funny thing about that is with proper nutrition the body generates the acids it requires to keep the Candida in check. DUH!!! For example, we need zinc, B6, B12, and folate for proper stomach acid formation. When we get the fiber we need the flora get fed that produce the latic aicd, acetic acid and fatty acids that control Candida growth. Would you like a list of nutrients now that can help you with learning and common sense?!!!
I will stick with what has worked for me for over 15 yrs, not from the advice of someone who claims to have the key to the truth in the world of healing.
Why are you trying to portray yourself as some kind of demigod,
Not doing that at all. Just because I know how the body works and have the common sense to use that information properly hardly makes me a demigod. Interesting though that you think so much of me that you see me in that light. :-)
specially when you rely on medical studies to explain things you don't understand ?
I understand this a hell of a lot more than you do. I even gave you indisputable evidence of what I said and you still don't get it. Did your Candida cause you brain damage or is this just normal for you?I have perused your forum and I can tell you I will not be posting there to ask or offer advice.
Oh, I am so hurt and disappointed, ROTFLMAO!!! People come to my forum to share and learn. I don’t want people there that choose to argue the facts and continue to remain stupid.
There are to many other good forums here to waste my time listening to your bizarre advice.
Again, if you choose to ignore the truth then that is your problem. I am not out to save the world. Only the ones that are willing to learn the truth. I will let natural selection deal with the rest.
alot of people are tired of being sick , this explains much of the hostility around here
lol Well that explains a lot. I feel like I have entered bizzarro zone where everything is exactly the opposite of reality. Almost scary.
Who's reality? Your I will believe any false claim as long as some sales site states it? Or the scientific reality of how things are known to work? And before you decide to argue some more why don't you explain to everyone here why it is that destroying the acid forming Lactobacillus bacteria with antibiotics leads to Candida overgrowth?
I was diagnosed with viral hepatitis in 1972 and have not tested positive in over ten years.
Which means nothing. There are NO common tests that can confirm the presence of a particular virus. The rate of false positives on antibody tests is very high, primarily due to a problem called serological cross reactivity. False positives can also occur from exposure without chronic infection.
Hver you make some very good points regarding acidity in controlling candida growth, it's actually very interesting, especially because it goes against so many pre-conceptions. I have a couple of questions though, why is it so many people who suffer from candida or believe they do turn to an alkaline diet and appear to improve in their condition?
And a lot of people don't. I have yet to meet anyone who said their Candida got better by an alkaline diet. There is also the question of what are they really eating or using. Most people when they feel sick try multiple things so is it really the diet that made them feel better? And then there is the question of what really improved? Candida in the stomach can lead to heartburn. If someone with this problem takes an antacid they will feel better because there is no acid to reflux. Does this mean they are healed? Of course not. Do they feel better? Yes. Is the Candida still there and overgrown? Yes. This is one of my problems with so-called testimonials. They leave out so much information and people too often do not realize that feeling better and being better ARE NOT the same thing. Let me put it this way. Can any of these people go out and eat a big bowl of ice cream without any problems? If they can't then the problem is still there. So why is it that we all have Candida, since it is a natural part of the body, yet we all don't have problems even if we eat an "acidic" diet? The average American diet would be considered "acidic" yet Candida overgrowth is not prevalent in the majority of the population. Apparently there is something wrong with the acidity hypothesis.
And as you pointed out “or believe they do “. How many people are really sure they have Candidiasis? Since this mimics so many other diseases self diagnosis is often wrong. So this brings us to the question what proof do they have that alkalinity helps Candida? First of all we would have to go on a case by case basis, not a generalization. We would have to know EVERYTHING they are doing. Maybe they are also taking acid forming probiotics, or the fiber in their diet is feeding these acid forming bacteria, which is what is keeping the Candida under control if this is what they have. We would have to know specifically what they are claiming, symptom wise, has improved. And again, can they eat sugar without problems, which is the ultimate test of whether they really healed themselves.
As well is there anywhere you could suggest to read up on how yeast turns to the hyphae form when in an alkaline environment?
Yes, I posted on this before providing the proof:
I find this very fascinating. I'm not sure if it was you who said it but I recall reading about how eating an abundance of alkaline foods make auto-immune problems such as allergies worse. Which if this is all true, really makes one reconsider the value in trying to constantly strive for alkalinity.
Yes, alkalinizing the body can make autoimmune conditions worse. When people try to alkalinize they often wipe out their stomach acid with things like alkaline waters, bicarbonates, oxides/hydroxides, etc. Wiping out the stomach acid is so stupid on so many fronts. In this case though the problem is that no stomach acid means proteins not being digested properly. The undigested proteins can enter the blood and act as antigens. This leads to constant allergic reactions that tax the adrenals. Weak adrenal function is a major component of autoimmune disorders as the lack of immune modulating corticosteroids leads to the overproduction of low affinity (nonspecific) antibodies. So the taxing of the adrenals by the allergic responses aggravates the autoimmunity.