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I've never used any of his products so I can't speak to them not being as potent as they once were. I'm sure they're okay to use but I do want to point out that the IP package you bought from him for $460.00 is NOT the IP he used in his clinic for many years that healed thousands of people, it's lacking in many areas.
Here is a post the Uny made about what the IP is made up of. Once you read this you'll see that what Dr. Schulze is now selling as the IP is NOT the one he used to use.
Uny makes Dr. Schulze and Dr. Christopher products much cheaper that you can get them elsewhere, she uses only organically grown and in some cases wildcrafted herbs. Her products are top of the line and are probably stronger than any you can find because she leaves them tincturing and bottles then only when orders are placed which means as they sit there tincturing they are getting stronger. I can't see a huge supplier leaving them tincturing them that long. You can find them in her Storefront.
Just to give you an idea of the difference in price between Uny's herbal products and what Dr. Schulze offers you can read the post below.
I hope this helps. ;)
Long overdue greetings, John!
I have to say this is an amazing forum. Kudos to Uny and everyone on here! Thank you very much (and thank you very much for your patience :) We're all just doing our best to share, teach, & learn ...and keep the works of these great healers "alive" on the internet (and have a "haven of healing" where we can all come together away from the insanity of a toxic world/society that thinks it's "normal").
Am I right to conclude that ALL Schulze's new products may not be as potent as they once were? Are some better than others? I have no problem giving his products up for better products, just not sure what to do with the $460 worth of IP products I just bought from him.
Thanks for your input. Yes I think that Dr Schulze's products are fine to use, and they did give me great results when I used them as a part of the entire incurables (I ordered the original IP from Uny) program, yet I could tell that something was off especially with Dr S's IF#1 & IF#2. His other tinctures also don't give the same effect that he describes in the original IP and/or Curing with Cayenne. When making such a huge committment and effort to doing something such as the incurables, I think you have to be able to "count on" the formulas so that it is a worthwhile invest of time, money, energy, healing capacities etc...Since it is basically an all consuming effort - especially if you're working 40 hrs per week.
That said, I'm looking forward to trying Uny's products and so glad she is doing what she is doing, and all of you are really tremendous in the information you post on this board. It is extremely helpful. I can't imagine what type of benefits could be reaped on the IP when the products are what they should be!
If anyone has any input on which of Dr Schulzes products may be worth keeping vs selling on ebay I would greatly appreciate your alls 2 cents.
:::sigh::: I wish there was some way we could ascertain the truth about this. There are things we can assume (below), but without actual side-by-side comparisons, there's really no way to know. WHOA, we just may have a winner here. If you'd be willing to be an official "comparison taste tester", we'd be willing to provide samples of the various products we offer, for you to compare against the Schulze products you have. If you'd like to do that we'll send you samples (of those tinctures/products you don't already have on the way). Let's see...I'm thinking (if you haven't already used them all), you should have the Liver/GB tincture, Blood DeTox tincture, Liver-Detox tea, Kidney tincture, Kidney tea, and Echinacea Plus. We'd be happy to send you 1/2 oz samples of all those (plus samples of any 'other' that you have, and our two other Cayenne tinctures) - just let me know if you'd like to do that (and email me what to send). That would help you decide what to keep (or not), and we'd all have an unbiased report.
We had a bottle of Schulzes Echinacea when we made our first batch of Echinacea tincture - ours was stronger (more numbing/tingly on the tongue) than his after only 3 days of tincturing. Our Cayenne #1 (and maybe #2) is NOT as "hot" as his, but I think the Cayenne #3 is as hot (or hotter). Oooh, one has to be a 'brave cayenne soldier' to taste-test cayennes :::grin::: By the way, the reason our Cayenne #1 (and maybe #2) tinctures are not as "hot" is because Cayenne #1 is 98% RAW Habanero (and peppers get hotter when they're dried - Schulze uses only dried). However (very interesting methinks) more than one person that taste-tested the Cayenne #1, agreed it wasn't as "hot", but reported that it seemed to enhance circulation more. Verrrrrrry interesting :)
Regarding what we can assume... well, at the very least we're pretty safe in assuming there's really no way a commercial operation like Schulzes can afford to "keep the tinctures tincturing" much more than two weeks. (we're talking -likely- tens of thousands of gallons of alcohol sitting on the shelves). Unless we have a major "run" on a tincture, most of ours tincture for several months before we press them. Of course, the alcohol does have a 'saturation point' (but I doubt that's reached in just two weeks). We've done a bit of playing around with true double-tinctures (adding new herbs to a batch of already strong tincture), and the 'double tincture' has always been stronger than the regular (some more, some less). Onward...
From here: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1682519#i
I have been doing the incurables program for 10 days now, and I have been sticking to it mostly to the T, not juicing 100% but eating all raw fruits, veggies, nuts etc... when I don't juice. I do not have an incurable disease, rather just don't feel 100% and want to feel amazing.
I have about 6 10oz glasses of fresh juice daily, and 2 small meals consisting of salads with produce from farmers market, nuts, raw nut butters and fruit as snacks
I have lost about 10 lbs since doing this and don't want to keep losing weight as I am aleady fairly thin, but do want to finish the program. I have 2 questions: What can I do within the program guidelines to prevent more weight loss, and possibly gain weight? Is there a collection of recipes listed anywhere that show some decent meals that are within the program guidelines??
What you're reporting (weight-loss when going onto juices & raw foods) is very commonplace, particularly while doing a major-body overhaul. Reason/s: Most of our digestive tracts are FAR more compromised and clogged than we can ever imagine, and when we start cleansing and restorative work, we stir things up substantially...which can actually cause a bit more of compromise until we get 'er done. And even though the juices assimilate rapidly, the raw foods (especially if we're not "drinking our solids, and chewing our liquids": "Drink your solids and chew your juices":) Re: Chewing food 24 times? are many times harder to assimilate (particularly for a digestive system that's compromised). So don't hesitate to add steamed and low-cooked produce & grains (the grains & nuts will assimilate much better if you sprout/soak them first to destroy the enzyme inhibitors). Dr. Christopher's "Mucusless Diet" is a good guideline to follow when not juice-fasting: http://curezone.com/upload/_N_Forums/Natural_Heali/MucuslessDietDrChristopher...
Also, we now have realized that the Schulze/Gerson/Christopher trio had much less of a need to deal with issues of low levels of intestinal microbiota than we do now (most of us are desperately in need to replenish and recolonize essential digestive-tract microorganisms). That is why I've taken the liberty of adding natural supplementation of fermented foods & kefirs to the IP. We have some dehydrated Water Kefir grains for 'giving away', so if/when we're sending a parcel your way, just say the word and we'll send some.
Also-And (lol)... Miss H explained other aspects of the 'temporary weight loss' issues here: Juice fasting, gaining weight and losing weight.
Your presence and posts are truly appreciated! (I was VERY happy to see your reply to Teresa about her ankle, and even more happy to know there's someone here that can offer 'more better' advise on issues like that than myself). Be sure and let us/me know if there's anything else you need help with finding answers/solutions...and don't hesitate to let us know how it's going!
Healthiest of blessings,