I know there are lots of people out there who promote flushing gallstones using olive oil, lemon juice and epson salts or similar combinations however, what they don't tell you is that flushing stones can be dangerous, especially if you have already had an episode of acute pancreatitis.
Passing gallstones can be a serious detrement to your health.
Because the stones can again obstruct your pancreatic duct causing another episode of pancreatitis and this time you may not be lucky. You could really damage your pancreas and suffer necrosis (dead panc tissue) or worse necrotizing pancreatitis which is dead pancreatic tissue with infection (similar to gangrene), and also develop cysts, internal bleeding, organ failure and death.
If you damage your pancreas enough you will suffer chroic pancreatitis and up your risk of the complication I listed previously but also add pancreatic cancer to the list. But ...
Let's say nothing of that nature happens. The gallstones simply pass via the flush. Since gallstones are not perfectly round nor nice and smooth but instead come in various shapes and sizes with edges that can be sharp as razors, they can damage the common bile duct, by ripping it to sheds or at least causing damage that scars the ducts. Scar tissue can form causing problems later and if you don't get rid of the stones in some manner you also run the risk of cholecystitis (acute infection).
It is true there are a lot of unnecessary surgeries performed; however, considering you have already had one mild acute pancreatitis episode the prudent course of action in my humble opinion would be to have your gallbladder surgically removed. In this day and age with laparoscopic or keyhole surgery you could be home the same day or the next.
If it turns out that you have pancreatic damage from you acute pancreatitis episode you may also suffer chronic pancreatitis in which case you'll need to do whatever it takes to avoid more damage and the resulting possible complications.
I've lived with pancreatitis for over 30 years.
When finally diagnosed, I was told my future may be limited to 10 years but I didn't like that prognosis and so found the way to not only survive but become pain free. If you want to learn more about pancreatitis check out living with pancreatits.
Yes, it is scary stuff and there is a ton of what I would call bad information on the Net in regards to "natural cures." Now, please don't get me wrong! I believe that whenever possible natural, alternative remedies (if they can be proven effective and safe with true rsik versus benefit being positive) are a much more viable option than toxic drugs or dangerous surgeries. However ...
The key is in proven risk versus benefit.
For example I promote using certain supplements to relieve chronic pancreatitis pain but those supplements have been proven through various studies (you can do research via pubmed.com and verify the efficacy) to do what exactly what I have found through personal experience to be true.
So to resume my lack of confidence in gallbladder flushes and give you reasons for my lack of confidence simply do a search on pubmed.com for gallbladder flushes, gallbladder flushes using epsom salts, olive oil and lemon juice or anything else you dem appropriate and you'll find exactly what I did - NOTHING.
The thing about pubmed.com is this: they research and post abstracts (with their conclusions) on just about anything that may have validity in regrads to a solution for some particular medical problem. In the case of gallbladder flushes there is absolutely nothing that shows even one speck of promise.
The only place you'll find anything good about gallbladder flushes is from those who promote it in order to sell an ebook or something else and don't get me wrong on this point either. I too market digital ebooks online for various niche markets BUT I do NOT promote something that has no validity, promising research or could be down right harmful.
The proponents of gallbladder flushes indicate or profess it is safe. How on earth can passing gallstones be safe, especially for someone who has already experienced one episode of mild acute pancreatitis due to gallstones?
They say that the use of epsom salts diolates the common bile duct.
There is NO proof of that being true.
They say that passing stones via a flush is much different than passing them without a flush.
How is that possible? Do they think that just because you swallow a cup of olive oil that it, the oil, in some way greases the common bile duct making it slippery and the stones simply slide down the shute (bile duct) like a kid on a water slide?
That isn't possible!
The oil dumps into you stomach, then into your small intestine.
It never even sees your gallbladder or bile duct.
All the oil does is to make your gallbladder spasm like a roller coaster and spit out potentially danger stones that could lodge in your common bile duct and cause another episode of acute pancreatitis. That much oil at one time could also cause YOU to have another episode of acute pancreatitis because you have had ONE episode already and oil is a trigger.
So what about gallbladder surgery, is it safe?
No surgery is what I'd call safe.
There is ALWAYS risk.
Risk from a slip of the scalpel, risk from general anesthesia, risk from infection.
Gallbladder surgery is NOT what I would call safe, in fact, there is a mortality rate as high as 19% in elderly patients who present with emergency type senarios in need surgical gallbladder removal.
My own father died on the table while having gallbladder surgery.
He had Hodgkin's Disease, now called Hodgkin's Lymphoma and it had invaded his gallbladder. Granted this was in 1973, years ago, and there were underlying complications which attributed to his cardiac arrest. They resuscitated him but he suffered some brain damage and never fully recovered before his death about a year later.
Now, I am certainly not trying to put the fear of God in you, or scare you away from having gallbladder surgery. THOUSANDS of gallbladder surgeries are done each year in the U.S. with no more side effects than nausea and vomiting due to the general anesthesia but ...
What you need to determine, in your own mind, is which offers less risk with the greatest amount of potential benefit for you.
Good luck and I wish you better health!
I know you are feeling ill heck, you are probably still ill due to your acute pancreatitis episode, you have gallstones and your gallbladder is most likely inflamed which just adds to your misery so if you want to find some relief and be bale to function half-way normally I'll tell you what I would do and you can do whatever you like because I am NOT a doctor but I am a 30 + year survivor of pancreatitis.
If it were me I'd go to the store and
1) purchase some fresh garlic. Garlic is a natural antibiotic but you must eat it raw for it to keep its antibiotic properties intact. The garlic will help heal any infection that maybe skulking around inside your gallbladder or at least help to keep it from progressing. I'd eat 3 cloves per day to start. Drink some v8 juice first because fresh garlic can be hard on your stomach if it's empty.
2) purchase some grapeseed extract (95% proanthcyandins). There is plenty of research on grapeseed extract in regards to its amazing ability to do various things but one thing it does is to stop inflammation. It'll help the inflammation in your gallbladder and your pancreas.
3) purchase some curcumin extract (95% curcuminoid). Curcumin is proven to relieve pancreatitis pain and will also do the same with gallbladder pain because it to in a very potent anti-inflammatory.
4) purchase some Ibuprofen (motrin, advil) and take some. It will help relieve the inflammation in both your pancreas and gallbladder. If you prefer to use aspirin, aspirin works too.
5) Call your doctor and ask for nausea medication. Phenergan works really well and so does Compazine. Only take nausea meds when you need to do so.
6) Low fat diet
So if it were me I'd being doing the above to fight infection, stop the pain and handle the nausea.
Once your nausea and pain are under control, you need to cut out all food that triggers both gallbladder attacks and possible acute pancreatitis. You can read more about MY diet on my blog: Pancreatitis diet
I'm pretty sure that if I had gallstones and an inflamed gallbladder I'd find relief doing what I would do and be able to function pretty normally after the inflammation resolved.
To keep the inflammation at bay I'd simply continue the process of low fat diet, supplements and add a little garlic in every now and then to keep the bugs at bay. You can read about all my little secrets at: Living with Pancreatitis
I wish you the best!
You are very welcome, I'll be more than glad to help anytime. Just be sure you understand that I am NOT a doctor and anything I tell you I do and if you do it, it is done at your risk cuz nothing I do is according to medical protocol and don't get me started on my experience with doctors cuz I don't have a high regard for most of them. I have met two in almost 57 years of completed life that I actually believe ARE doctors and should have the distinction.
Will you ever get well?
Couldn't tell you.
It is up to you and God.
I am fairly well. In fact I have been pretty much pain free, with only one series of acute pancreatitis attacks (lasted for 12 days and I was sick for 3 weeks? maybe more) in the last 16 years since developing what I call my regimen and adhereing to it.
Most people simply do not want to do what it takes to live.
My lifestyle is easy for me. I just think of the pain I used to endure and ask myself:
"Do I want to go back?"
The answer is ALWAYS "No Way!"
I almost break out in a cold sweat just thinking about having another acute pancreatitis episode.
I do NOT believe I am that much different than anyone else. Sure we all are unique but when it comes to a condition/disease like Pancreatitis I think we are all pretty much alike. Some may have way more damage, some may have less but the primary cause of pancreatic tissue destruction is inflammation. If you can resolve that you have the war pretty much won.
Now, the reason for the inflammation may be different and should also be addressed as well. If the underlying reason or cause isn't addressed then you'll always be fighting the inflammation no matter what ...
So if alcohol is the issue one MUST quit drinking, hell, you have to quit drinking whether the underlying cause was excessive alcohol consumption, gallstones, trauma, high blood fats, autoimmune disease or toxins (prescritption drugs for example) anyway because alcohol is extremely toxic to the pancreas.
The sad part about our condition is no matter what - once we have Pancreatitis we are ALWAYS at risk. It makes no difference whether you become pain free and your pancreas heals - you or I could screw up with diet or whatever tomorrow and have an Acute Pancreatitis episode that is our final one and, things can turn ugly very fast.
I know you probably didn't want to hear that but I don't believe in sugar coating things, especially when it comes to life and death situations.
The Health Guy
Pancreatitis - Living with Pancreatitis
I apologize for the late reply about the possibility of an Acute Pancreatitis episode after gallbladder removal, I don't always check my inbox nor do I come to this forum everyday. If my memory serves me correctly you have already had one episode of Acute Pancreatitis? If that is in fact correct, you will ALWAYS be at risk for another episode especially if your pancreas suffered damage and it is very difficult to believe that a pancreas doesn't receive some damage (even if not detected on CT) during an Acute Pancreatitis episode.
If you have gallstones, removal of the gallbladder would lessen the risk of another acute pancreatitis attack due to gallstone obstruction and of course would eliminate the risk of acute cholecystitis (infection of the gallbladder) which can progress to gangrene or perforation of the gallbladder, neither of which is a good thing.
If you need more information concerning Pancreatitis you can find it at: Living with Pancreatitis
ideally, there is an order to cleansing, flushing. But this is a bit of an emergency--You want to feel that you have put the MDs behind yous, and in a peaceable way. So, the important thing is to make sure the bowels are moving well. This is so that the stones might leave the liver/gallbladder and the toxins not be reabsorbed by the colon--making you feel crappy.>>That is NOT life-threatening.
well- it's Friday--I hope whatever you decided, you can feel some measure of peace and support!
all best wishes.