Wow! That's amazing! What was your method to exterminate the colonies? I've gotten mine under control but do know that it takes diligence to get the colonies out and then heal and recolonize the gut. My research is showing that most methods, like the diet, will only put the colonies into remission. And agitating the candida is often associated with a "die-off," but that doesn't mean you're killing anything!
I have to take off here in a second for a few hours so I don't have a lot of time to explain all this. But in short you need to keep in mind several things:
1. Candida is a normal part of the body. It is when it overgrows in a fungal form that it creates problems. And this is controlled by pH. Acid means inhibited growth and a benign yeast form. An alkaline environment means increased growth and a dangerous fungal form.
2. Because Candida is a normal part of the body you will never eradicate it. This is a common mistake people make when trying to deal with Candidiasis. The goal is to keep it under control, which is done by restoring the flora and thus acidic environment.
3. Candida is almost always limited to certain parts of the body where the flora keep the Candida in check. Candida almost never goes systemic. And again if it does this is life threatening if not deadly. You are not simply going to have a little headache or bloating.
I just started hydrogen peroxide therapy. I still have more research on safety to do before I am comfortable trying HP enemas, though I'm not scared to try just about anything.
I have an ominous melanoma on my thigh that changes all the time and is painful to touch that I am working on as well. I THOUGHT I was successful in burning it off with apple cider vinegar, (made a scab and fell off) but alas! I is growing back with a vengeance so I fear is rooted in the artery in my thigh. I applied HP to it last night via cotton ball and bandaid, and it is definitely pissed off, putting out broken capilaries and a more little bumps. I am not giving up, as I hear it's death struggle is the worst.
Peroxide works great for melanomas, but you need to use undiluted 35% food grade peroxide, and you need to open up the melanoma before applying the peroxide. You can scrape it open with a pin and apply the peroxide with a cotton swab. And yes, it is going to feel like you are being branded. But the peroxide will set up a chain reaction and follow the cancer down.
If you don't want that much pain I have written about euphorbias on my forum The Truth in Medicine. Just type in euphorbias in the search box for the forum to pull up the posts.
Indigoaura, you are correct in your original understanding of systemic candidiasis. It is a system-wide candida infection caused by fungal colonies extending rhizomes through the intestinal lining; penetrating into the bloodstream and spreading candida into the entire body.
Dvorge was right in his last post. The fact is that Candida RARELY ever gets in to the bloodstream. When this does happen it is life threatening to deadly. Luckily it is an EXTREMELY RARE occurrence. Unfortunately a lot of sales sites do use live blood microscopy to convince people they have Candida in their blood by showing them things like white blood cells and telling the people that this is Candida. Since most people have no idea what they are looking at the victim falls for the scam.
In short, Candida in the bloodstream would lead to a dangerous infection. You would have a severe fever at the least, and if the Candida went through the bloodstream in to vital organs where it could cause damage such as the heart or brain you would not survive long. Again, this is why I said several times before that if Candida did make it to the bloodstream then this would be life threatening to deadly. Please don't fall for all the Candida hype that gets spread on the internet.
There are a lot of scams like this in alternative health unfortunately. Just like how people convince others that the soap stones they are passing from "liver flushing" are gallstones. This is why it is so important to research the facts from credible sites, not sales sites or even some health sites that are simply repeating old outdated and disproven ideas.
Whats wrong with liver flushes? IDK much about them, but I've heard they help...
Did you watch these?:
Ok, here is quote from an informational website:
"Once the Candida has a digestive dominance it grows root like structures, Rhizoids, which penetrate the gut wall. This allows the Candida to establish colonies outside the gut. This is termed a systemic infection.
This is wrong on multiple levels.
The parasite is now able to colonise any area that the blood can reach.
Candida is not a parasite. Again, they are using a definition very loosely.
It thrives in anaerobic conditions (low oxygen) so its first targets include joints, sinuses, muscles and other organs where oxygen levels are low (indicators are joint pain, sinus problem, aching muscles, repeat headaches, low level or migraines)."
Candida can grow and thrive regardless of the amount of oxygen present just like cancer cells. The low oxygen environment claims are just more health myths based on the repeated spreading of misinformation that just grows and grows each time the misinformation gets repeated.
So what is described above, aka "leaky gut" and candida colonizing in other areas of the body is not a systemic infection, but needs to be categorized as CRC, correct?
CRC would be a much better description since most of the claims that were being stated in the link were incorrect to begin with.
Ah, it's the classification of the exact disorder that I'm using wrong? It's confusing because the terms you listed are used interchangeably even in research articles and are not well defined.
Thanks for the clarification! I'm new to this site. :-)
That was an excellent post by Dvorge and hit the nail on the head about what I have been saying. Yes, the term "systemic" is loosely used, which is why it creates so much confusion. Systemic literally means throughout the body. Something like candidasis or thrush are not the same as "systemic Candida".
Unfortunately, many terms are used loosely in medicine, which leads to a lot of confusion. For example, I have seen so many AIDS "experts" refer to AIDS as a disease. It is not a disease, it is a syndrome. And the words lactic acid and lactate are frequently interchanged even though they are not the same thing. Lactic acid is acidic and lactate is not. Even the term Candida, which is a microbe, is often used incorrectly in place of candidiasis, which is Candida overgrowth.
Hver, you know your stuff so I will respectfully disagree that systemic candida infections are extremely rare...
"A weakened or undeveloped immune system or metabolic illnesses such as diabetes are significant predisposing factors of candidiasis. Diseases or conditions linked to candidiasis include HIV/AIDS, mononucleosis, cancer treatments, steroids, stress, and nutrient deficiency. Almost 15% of people with weakened immune systems develop a systemic illness caused by Candida species.
reference: ^ Odds FC (1987). "Candida infections: an overview". Crit. Rev. Microbiol. 15 (1): 1â€“5"
I think a lot of the problem is that many people don't understand what "systemic" really means and so the term gets used loosely too often. Note that even in your link above they say "systemic illness caused by Candida" not systemic Candida. There is a major difference.
If you had systemic Candida then you would likely be in the hospital in very critical condition or dead.
It seems to me that the evidence points to beneficial flora controling the growth of candida YEAST, but once it's gone into the fungal form it becomes an aggressive parasite and completely overtakes the intestines, absorbing all nutrients for itself and sending spores into the bloodstream to seek out weak points to expand its colonies.
I disagree with the spores part. Again, many people do not understand the concept of "leaky gut" caused by fungal Candida. Leaky gut does not mean that any old thing can pass through. It means that solutes that would not normally pass through the intestine are being allowed through due to the increased permeability of the gut.
As for the fungal form, the pH is what regulates the form the Candida takes on. An alkaline pH and you get fungal Candida. If the pH is restored to the normal acidic pH then the fungal Candida converts back to the benign yeast form. But you cannot simply take probiotic foods and expect a miracle. The bacteria generate their beneficial acids primarily through the fermentation of fibers. Simply taking beneficial bacteria and then starving them therefore is not going to do squat.
But I think the strongest evidence is anecdotal, with tons of people stating that even kraut and kefir did them no good or made them worse when they were severely overgrown.
There are tons of studies like below in regards to probiotics in pill form (not kraut and kefir):
In a study done by the University of Washington in 1990 they found that "Most of the lactobacillus containing probiotics products currently available either do not contain the Lactobacillus species and/or contain other bacteria of questionable benefit."
So my posts are that REAL probiotics (not the over priced pills) should be the LAST STEP in treating a candida infection. Alot of folks are just eating tons of probiotics and wondering why they can't get better. I went that route at first and quickly realized that trying to put out a fire by spitting on it doesn't work.
There are various reasons I do not like most probiotic supplements. I also prefer cultured foods, preferably homemade. Some of the store bought "live culture" foods are not really live culture.
dv: so u think that ALL forms of flora are beneficial, even the so-called potential aggressive ones that may overgrow if one's immune system is down (bifidus)?
Did you read the site I posted a link to:
Especially this part:
"Bidfidobacteria (collectively known as Lactobacillus bifidus) outnumber other Lactobacilli species by approximately 1000 to 1, and is in many sense the dominant healthy bacteria, although Lactobacillus is more hardy and resilient. The five most common strains of Bifidobacter include B. infantis, B. adolescentis, B. bifidum, B. longum, and B. breve. The levels of bifidobacteria levels tend to decline with age and reduced levels have been linked to declining health. Bifidobacteria are predominantly found in the large intestine (i.e. the colon) whereas Lactobacillus acidophilus primarily inhabits the small intestine.
Lactobacilli and Bifidobacteria help to inhibit potential pathogenic bacteria, such as E.coli or Clostridium perfringens. They help to prevent diarrhea caused by rota virus or salmonella. They help to reduce the proliferation of candida. They assist in increased defacation and help to reduce constipation. They help in digestion in general, by altering the pH (by producing lactic acid) and improving the uptake of minerals, especially calcium. They also help to digest lactose for thelactose-intolerant persons. They are also involved in the production of vitamins, for example, B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, B7, B12, A, D and K, and also essential fatty acids. They are particularly important in the production of Biotin (B7), which is the body's main source of Biotin (dietary sources containing a minimal amount). Lactobacilli and Bifobacteria also assist in protein digestion. They help to clean the digestive tract. They produce natural antibiotics and antifungals such as hydrogen peroxide (not in the ridiculously high quantities that are available with H2O2 supplementation or other oxygenating products). Lactobacillus acidophilus secretes the antifungal and antimicrobial agents including lactocidin, lactobacillin, acidolin and as mentioned above, hydrogen peroxide. Acidophilus also produces lactic acid, which helps keep down the pH in the intestinal tract. Too alkaline a pH in the colon favours bad bacteria and yeasts, whereas more acidic conditions help to prevent their excessive growth. In 1988, the US surgeon general's report noted that 'Normal microbial flora provide a passive mechanism to prevent infection.' They may increase the number of immune system cells in the body. They may even help to protect the body from environmental toxins and reduce waste at the cellular level. They also help to maintain healthy cholesterol levels and triglyceride levels, and break down and rebuild our body's hormones."