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What are your thoughts on this topic?
How can we discern and not be deceived?
How can we speak against error and false manifestations without risking blaspheming the Holy Spirit?
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,898,404I agree with what Rainy said to the post down below, "they say Christ has returned."
Looking to Christ to teach us all things while doing a good study of those books of the bible she mentioned, plus others, will clearly show the true verses the fake.
We need to discern everything by God's word.
Of course, because we are human, we can still interpret the bible in error. But ultimately, if we are depending on Christ, he will lead us into all truth, he's promised that. So there is no need to be worried about understanding everything perfectly. We just need to follow him, trusting him to teach us. The disciples didn't understand a lot of things, but their understanding grew as they followed Jesus.
When I'm confused about something, or trying to give the right words to someone, or don't know what turn to make next, or whatever, I just always pray, Lord lead me, give me the words to say, show me the way. And then see what the scriptures say.
And if we are in Christ, trusting him, we don't have to worry about blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
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This is a reply to # 1,898,404What are your thoughts on the matter? I read scripture as saying that the pharisees did not recognize the Holy Spirit at work in Jesus and blasphemed when they accused His works of being from satan. Or perhaps the pharisees hearts were so evil that they did see the Holy Spirit in Him but still refused to acknowledge it to continue in their own selfish gain. - Re: False spirits invading the churc... Rainy.
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I agree with Vektek. Refreshed also brought up something that I believe was hitting the nail on the head.How can we discern and not be deceived?Definitely we need to examine everything with the Word of God and prayer. We test the spirits. Also, discerning of spirits is one of the gifts of the Spirit. "To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another [divers] kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:"I Corinthians 12:10I try to speak against error in teaching and leave the manifestations to God as I do not claim the gift of discernment. Some so called manifestations are so blatantly fake I may say something. An example would be the time I saw a minister pushing a person trying to make her fall while praying for her. At the same time his wife was pulling her from the waist trying to help her husband push her down. The poor lady just stood there and backed up as they worked at pushing and pulling her. She struggled to stay on her feet determined not to fall under the fakery. Praise God she won the struggle. I believe with God's help she stood the whole time, walking backwards of course. :)Also, remember the gifts and callings of God are without repentance. This means it is possible to manifest true gifts of the Spirit in a backslidden or even an agnostic state. So, maybe a minister who started out right, received gifts from God and somehow became deceived along the way, may still be having true manifestations flowing from him. He may be ministering false teachings to his flock, but is still operating in the true Gifts of the Spirit. Likewise remember the opposite is true. A minister of satan may be claiming to operate in the true gifts of the Spirit, however, he is operating from the occult (satan's counterfeit) right from the pulpit in church! We really need to seek the gift of discernment for this day and age. The Bible tells us to seek the gifts of the Spirit. "But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way."I Corinthians 12:31 KJVRemember the Bible says, "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity". Matthew 7:22-23These verses clearly show that receiving the gifts of the Spirit is no guarantee of salvation. I believe many people that can speak in tongues, and yes, I mean have the true gift of tongues from God, will go to hell. Of course, many who speak in satan's counterfeit tongue will be in hell too. Why will some who speak in real tongues from God go to hell? They did not endure to the end. They did not maintain an intimacy with God. Maybe they became deceived and started worshiping another Jesus. Maybe they became an agnostic as the sin of doubt filled their minds when spiritual laziness overtook them. This is what happened to me in the past. Remember Jesus said he will vomit the lukewarm out of His body someday. Do you really think those who our Lord pukes out will go the heaven? Of course not. Intimacy with God is so very important. If we are intimate with Him, He will be intimate with us. "I never knew you" means He was saying He was not intimate with them.I know this is bringing up the whole Calvinism verses Arminianism debate. I have read some of the posts debating the issue on this forum. I never jumped in because I really don't have time for the debate. I will just say on the matter that I believe in the whole Bible. I believe the verses that both sides bring up are equally true. I believe the issue is really beyond our comprehension. When God inspired the verses for the Calvinistic view He was seeing the end from the beginning. This is something we humans are not capable of. I don't intend to debate it further. I just don't have time."But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way." I Corinthians 12:31
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Holy Spirit is your comforter. Allow Holy Spirit to comfort you and teach you. The Holy Spirit is a person and has many abilities. Just ask the Holy Spirit to teach you everything.
Just ask the Holy Spirit to be in everything you try to do.
Holy Spirit wants you to be very very close to Him.
Taking everything to Him in prayer can weed out the false spirits
End times and false spirits are here and they ain't going away.
Christians note false spirits in all places especially in church.
Leaving the window and door open allows whole truth to later be strengthen with new truths.
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I found a quote from Michael Ellner::
-“Just look at us.
Everything is backwards;
everything is upside down, . . .
Doctors destroy health,
Lawyers destroy justice,
Universities destroy knowledge,
Governments destroy freedom,
The major media destroy information,
And religions destroy spirituality.”
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This is a reply to # 1,899,188ya... always forced tragedy for making a living or even for a hope to get rich - it is pure money and anger to get it.
Love is lacking, what God gives us, what it is real right to us without the lies, what is deserved to one's life cannot be bought and so has to be observed with love and joy, it is the work of him pleasing him and all. even mother/father to a child and so a grown adult is still a child to be loved with all the light, flower, creation, words,....
yes, it is good to know and save your self and other who can change his anger into livings. God is real! and now we have a real fight because of this truth, very hard to hold and behold. I really want to know how we can win here in our life against this bad people who forced us to tragedy for hope of making money which really is making very bad harmful - how can such love be so blind, this man made love. yes we have to hurt others with the truth and win a war to join his realm. we are almost lost sheep too many are going to be burn - their anger becoming fire itself to be burn, an energy of hell for those who harbor it and keep it to harm others. turn it to Love and he will be with us. HE WILL KNOW WHAT WE REALLY WANT.
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This is a reply to # 1,899,200when i see pain my energy turns into love for service to him. when i die MY Father hears my cries and preserves me from the the eternal fire, amen!
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,899,209Thank you to all who have posted in this thread. I believe all of you including the Original Poster have given us something to think about.
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