I was on antibiotics for over 2 years and never felt healthy after that. I never linked the antibiotics to my ill health and took another course of antibiotics for 1 month.
After this I lost 2 stone in weight and am now underweight. I began to experience lots of acid reflux , was diagnosed with a stoamch ulcer , gastritis and also H.pylori. Futher along I've developed malabsorption problems , joint pain , acne and many other problems. The H.pylori infection is now apparently clear and has been for the past month or so , I understand that it may take a while to feel back to normal but I definitely feel everything isn't covered and something is still wrong , especially considering I became so ill after taking antibiotics. A comprehensive stool analysis back in December found the following results.
Alpha Haemolytic Streptococcus ? >> Could you tell what kind of test did you do? I found that in my throat 3 years ago did not go with antibiotics then. it is said that can go to gut and....
The problem I have with probiotics is that for some reason they generally make me feel much worse. >> I would try the "start low and go slow approach". just to differentiate between dye-off or feed them
I've read several articles which mention certain species of Lactobacillus can feed bad bacteria ( in particular Streptococcus ) >> could you share the source? i also found that on several forums but not being able to source the info...i believe it has a point
I've thought about buying the expensive VSL probiotics numerous times but always decide against it not knowing if they would help me. >> i think its to early for VSL
The doctor who interpreted my stool results suggested my best course of action would be to eat a zero carb diet >> you know I'm not a big fan of zero carbs / i also had many problems because of that.
There’s a D-lactate-free product sold by Custom Probiotics that’s helpful. >> i guess i've write before. try also kirkman labs acidophilus hipoallergenic 3 bil per caps (affordable) or natren dairy free (expensive) . although i have also SIBO i was able to tolerate them with no side effects except dye-off.
I would try a natural antibiotics approach and same time with low and slow probiotics. did you think about introducing enzymes? maybe they can help...
arent cloves recommended for strep? or coconut oil? you might wanna search that? or even mashed garlic with meals
and yes...after so many antibiotics there a re a lot of chance of developing also yeast. antibitiotics distroyed my gut flora and made the protozoan infection go balistic.
Hi Dave , thanks for the reply as always !. Sorry for not getting back quickly, until i see my doctor I'm trying my best to avoid web searching for answers since it usually makes me feel somewhat hopeless and angry.
I had a digestive stool analysist performed by Genova Diagnostics. In regards to the source for probiotics sometimes feeding bad bacteria I can't seem to find anything specific anywhere but know like yourself I've read it a few times on various websties. Thanks for the link on the probiotics.
I was having a good think about what could possibly be causing my health problems last ngiht. It's a strange one that's for sure, I seem to have all the symptoms of H.pylori but the cause of SIBO and I'm now negative for H.pylori.
I'm wondering if it's possible that a bacteria such as streptococcus as found on my stool sample could be in the small bowel due to a lack of lactobacillus ( which is there in part to keep such bacteria from overgrowing ) after taking so many antibiotics and this in turn has caused inflammation , malabsoprtion and the various other symptoms I'm suffering from ?.
Sorry for late feedback - here are my thoughts:
"I'm wondering if it's possible that a bacteria such as streptococcus as found on my stool sample could be in the small bowel due to a lack of lactobacillus ( which is there in part to keep such bacteria from overgrowing ) after taking so many antibiotics and this in turn has caused inflammation , malabsoprtion and the various other symptoms I'm suffering from ?"
-- i believe its possible . many times in SIBO translocation in other parts of GI is possible. Hpilory can (by reflux) be found even in the sinuses. one of CZ users reported E.coli in the nose (was tested)...I was tested and found Enterobacter in the throat...so its possible
"If this was the case surely lowering the population of Strep and the other bad bacteria present either with regular or natural antibiotics and they repopulating with beneficial bacteria should help ?. I am also deficient in vitamin D which could points towards absorption problems in the small bowel. -
yeah . the "protocol" should include antibiotic (i would choose natural one) but also D3 and B12 plus enhance digestion. I remember asking you about if you get help with enzymes "correcting nutrient deficiencies (particularly B12 and fat-soluble vitamins), and maximizing adequate digestion to avoid overfeeding the microbes are prime concerns for RDs working with clients with SIBO"
"I've tried high dose Allicin , matula herbal formula , mastic gum , zinc , manuka honey , various probiotics and many other products and supplements. This is what makes me tempted to try antibiotics , I feel like all these natural products just aren't cutting it."
IMO - "ive read somewhere :))))" mastic gum NOK for SIBO , manyka honey the same if your bacteria feed on carbs and you should look the label of the probiotics. Try the ones i have recommended and see if any difference. Kirkman labs is around 20 dollars. If you think a medium wage here is ~ 4-500 $ .....I had to buy them anyway...
I am more prone to that "methane-producing microbes are commonly associated with constipation." but was not able yet to find the other culprit exept Hpilory and Giardia and Candida. I feel there is another bacteria overgrowth there. But I cant have BM on my own...