"The belief that the Inuit Eskimos are a healthier people is not true either:
"evidence has shown that Inuit have a similar prevalence of coronary artery disease as non-Inuit populations and they have excessive mortality due to cerebrovascular strokes."
Incorrect. The eskimos were very healthy eating their original diet. As you can see from the charts they actually had better health than the white settlers. However today the Inuit are slowly and steadily eating westernized foods leading to the diseases that everyone in the west has today, which explains the strokes and coronary artery disease.
Dr. Fuhrman gets loses to Christ Masterjohn when he tries to "debunk" the inuit diet, and doesnt reply after. Read the comments below. http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/diet-myths-are-the-inuit-healthy.html
"Paleo rated WORST diet! Low-fat rated high (U.S. News)"
Since when does a news paper start rating different diets for their health? Last time I checked they are a news company, not a place full of scientists who actually have any sort of merit when it comes to judging health. I am sure if I found a newspaper article rating paleo number one you would be outraged.
"All who got sick when Vegan under-ate
This is also what happened to Paleo-Queen, Denise Minger:
Ex-raw vegan under-ate, but blames diet
Doesn't this story sound familiar? A diet doesn't work out for a certain person... so they switch to one that works for them. The only difference is that these people do go around attacking the vegan diet afterwards. Do you not also find it odd that they go from "starving" on a vegan diet to thriving on a paleo diet?
"But regardless to all that evidence, the biggest evidence that I base my belief that the Paleo and other low-carb diets are unhealthy is not only what happened to me from years on those diets, but from observing the diet habits of people at this forum who are still sick:
Biggest diet culprits: under-eating & low-carb
Just like with every other popular protocol pushed at this forum, Paleo seems to have a very low success rate. All you have to do is go to the Candida support section where just about everyone there is on the "Candida diet", which is basically the Paleo diet, and hardly any of them are getting better."
I have said this before, and I will say it again. What works for you, doesn't work for everyone. You are not everyone Natway, believing a diet that worked for you should be eaten by everyone else is a fallacy. I will repeat this again aswell, many of the people in these forums will never be well again... or it will take a long time to heal, irregardless of the diet they use. Many of the problems in relation to health have origins outside of the realm of diet. But a person can use the diet that gives them the least problems, and that diet I suspect will be different for each person depending on their condition. That is why people with the condition of candida use the paleo diet, because it aggrivates their symptoms the least. As for the solution to their problem, I am not sure that diet will ever be enough for most people.
Believing that there is a one size fits all diet out there is a MYTH. Everyone is different. However using your ancestory to help figure things out goes a long way to helping figure out a diet.
You're saying one-size-fits-all diet is a myth, but are making the case our ancestors ate Paleo and that's how we should eat, so which is it?
It is both, which I have repeated several times. Everyones ancestors ate different foods, so knowing your ancestory plays a huge part in diet. I am really getting the feeling that you do not read my posts, or the links I provide. Which suggests I am wasting my time. So this will be my last post to you.
--"Do you not also find it odd that they go from "starving" on a vegan diet to thriving on a paleo diet?"
No, because starving on any diet will make you feel like crap. The reason they are "thriving" on a low-carb diet is meat & fat are more calorie-dense, so you get way more calories in per same volume of food.
How do you know they were starving on the vegan diet? You keep suggesting this, yet have no evidence. So everytime someone fails on the vegan diet, by your logic it is because they did it wrong. This sounds like diet fundamentalism to me. This sort of attitude towards diet reminds me of people going on the macrobiotic diets who got charged with child abuse, when their kids ended up with brain damage from the diet. It is very clear if a person goes from feeling poorly, to feeling good and thriving for the long term... they are doing something right.
If the Paleo diet was so great, then most doing the low-carb "Candida diet" would report feeling significantly better, but go check out the candida section, most report no change or feeling worse.
Again it looks like you havent been reading my posts, so I will repeat myself yet again. The people who have "candida" already have health problems. So regardless of what ever diet you want, healing is not necessarily going to occur. However the "Candida diet" is the one that causes the least amount of symptoms in the people with candida. Most of these people with candida have liver and bowel problems that are so bad that recovery is going to take more than just diet. Many of these problems started in childhood, and ended up manifesting on a large scale by the time they realized it. Its going to take cleansing, its going to take changing their attitude towards life, its going to take many many more things than simply diet. A person has to be able to digest/assimilate the food they are eating in order to heal, I dont care how much nutrition there is in the food you eat. If a person passes the nutrients out, or it ferments into something toxic because the organs are not working correctly... sickness will continue.
The Inuit diet is not healthy and it's not because of any recent shift towards SAD diet (I didn't know fast-food restaurants made their way up to the north pole!). Preserved eskimo bodies were found and examined and this is what they found:
Have you ever been to the arctic? Have you ever spoken with inuit? Because I have on both accounts many times. Depending on where you go yes there are fast food restaurants, however there are also grocery stores in every community aswell. There is also alcohol and tobacco. It is naive to believe that western influence is not having an impact on their health.
"We have also seen that ancient Eskimos, far removed from the stresses of modern technological society, suffered from coronary artery disease...This anatomic evidence in Alaska not only confirms the antiquity of arteriosclerotic heart disease, but also its occurrence in a preliterate society..." -M.R. Zimmerman, MD, PhD (5)
These are quotes from the website you linked.
The Inuit do not become obese when eating their original diet, and don't seem to develop type two diabetes, an epidemic currently sweeping the western world. Their teeth and jaws also appear to be better formed than those eating SAD diets.
Beginning in the late 19th century, small amounts of imported grain products and processed food started creeping into the Inuit diet, and that amount has continuously increased.
Then the article goes on to demonize fats, which is now long outdated and the antithesis to health. And then promote an entirely raw food diet, which shows me they are bias. Here are some links to that prove that saturated fats aren't the demon that they are made out to be.
Now on top of all that the fact that they found a few inuit with inflammation in their joints that were frozen could mean many things. Inflammation from constantly foraging, they were a very active and mobile people who faced many hazards. My understanding is that they found maybe a couple of frozen cadavers, hardly something to judge a whole culture by. But if you read the links that I posted earlier, with actuall recorded evidence of many living people from the 1800s... not a couple of frozen cadavers... you will see they were very healthy. So I will post the link again.
Clearly the best evidence shows the inuit were a healthy people, without many of the ailments of today.
If the Eskimo diet was so great, it would have filtered down to the rest of society a long long time ago.
Again what works for one kind of people, doesn't work for everyone. You continue with the belief that there is a one size fits all diet for everyone. The whole world doesn't revolve around the diet that you do well on. Just because everyone has a nose on their face, doesn't mean every persons nose is the same. There is something called evolution and adaptation. I will repeat this fact again for you, half of the population of tibet died in one year! when they were forced to farm wheat as opposed to barley.
It boggles my mind that the most praised diet of Paleo movement is from a fringe unsuccessful society. I'm not saying that to bad-mouth the Eskimos, but just telling it like it is.
The eskimos may be the fringe of society, but that doesn't mean you should just throw away the evidence of their health. Thats what scientists do when they cant prove their theories, they take the 20% of evidence that doesn't work in favor of that theory and call it an anomalie.
That being said read the links below about the historical peoples that ate primarily animal protein for their diets. Native Americans, Maasi tribe of africa, Gauchos of south america, Steppe Nomads of Mongolia, Chukotka of Russia.
So now after reading the above it wont be so boggling for your mind anymore to appreciate meat in our diets. Especially since some people can thrive on primarly meat based diet. That being said, the meat of today is not the meat of even 50 years ago. There is a huge difference.
Here is an example I am getting at. Today everything is has changed. The rate of lung cancer from smoking was way lower than it is today, yet millions smoked during world war one and two. The rates of cancer only went up after the 1950's when pesticides came in, and now with GMO's tobacco its even worse. I am not saying smoking is healthy, but just blaming smoking is a smoke screen. Today the same chemicals and such are being sprayed on food. Doesn't it make sense that when people eat foods sprayed by pesticides and herbicides and such that their bowels get sick? Conventional dietary logic these days suggests that all meat, dairy, fruit, veggies, seeds, and grains are the same when they clearly are not.
Everything is interdependent and interconnected. Our ancestors evolved and adapted out of necessity to nature. We do not dictate what our bodies are, nature dictates that. Paleo isnt just about eating meat and veggies, its much more... its about understanding our nature and by supporting that we gain health and happiness. Its not just about the foods we eat, but the sources of the foods we eat. Its about getting into nature, being kind and giving, taking responsibility for our lives as opposed to believing we are a bunch of victims. When we oppose our nature sickness and disease comes.
Finally.... If I cant get through to you. Maybe David Wolf, Daniel Amen, Mark Sisson, Mark Hyman, and many more can.
I know I was not going to reply, after the email you sent me I felt I had to.
The email you sent me, which I posted below is hardly evidence of anything, and is not at all evidence that the celebrities underate. Just because one person says one thing, doesn't mean another person has the same condition. Also none of the people in the quotes below were tracked with any form of study to see their progress, Its anecdotal and cherry picked to support your position as opposed to having real science behind it.
Also thankyou for proving my point with your last post earlier by not reading and ignoring everything I wrote, by not reading and ignoring the links I posted... then going on to refute all the people in health circles with insults. I dont think you understand how a debate actually works, you have no evidence to back up your points, and you have to refute the points other people make. Just because a person sells suppliments doesnt mean they arent helping people get well. You have no evidence that Mark Scisson does steroids, he also does not bodybuilder physique. Daniel Amen has helped tens of thousands world wide who have mental problems, so what if he makes money on suppliments... its what supports his clinic to help more people. And so what if david wolfe takes stimulants and is rich, everyone drinks coffee and he got wealthy by helping people offering people an alternative to western medicine. Maybe you should take a risk by writing a book and start a clinic, instead of bashing those who do. The fact that you have to insult and criticize people like that when you dont know them, especially when they are helping alot of people, is a sign of an angry mind.
I now believe that you are not healed of anything. You want to cling to the idea of your diet being so good, and working for you that you look for anything to support your conclusions and ignore anything that refutes it. Perhaps you could post a picture of your tongue alongside a newspaper with todays date on it to prove othewise.