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Would taking diflucan along with a strict diet for 2 weeks clear up moderate to sever candida?- Re: Diflucan? deb_46
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 289,679It didn't with me. I took Diflucan for about 3 months and even had Diflucan by IV once and I'm still battling it at 15 months and still sick. I'm better but nowhere near well yet.
Deb- Re: Diflucan? Johnny Vegas
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This is a reply to # 289,680> Just as a general comment - there is alot to be learned from the Autistic groups. They are literally way ahead treatment wise.
I couldn't agree more.
I've joined the yahoo mercury autism group and am very impressed with the general level of knowledge. Incidentally there is much to suggest that both candida and autism may be linked to heavy metal toxicity - in particular mercury.
This is the main avenue I am exploring at the moment.
BTW did you see this post: //www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=2432 on the breaking health news forum? This may be the begining of the end for autism.
JV.
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- Re: Diflucan? deb_46
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This is a reply to # 289,684Hi JV,
No, I've had the 24 hr. urine test for heavy metals twice about a year apart and checked out pretty good. Was a little high in cadmium, nickel and one other one can't remember off hand. Had no elevation at all of mercury or aluminum, those were the two I was mainly concerned with. The tests were done by Great Smokies Labs and cost $1,000.00 so I hope they were reliable.
Just a little update for you on the low body temperature issue we talked about awhile back. I took thyroid meds for about two weeks and brought my temperature up to normal and sometimes a hair over normal and have been having horrendous die off. Since my temp was a hair over normal I stopped the meds about a week ago and temp is still staying up to normal. I know its possible to restart the thyroid so maybe I have, if temp goes back down will resume the meds. I'm going to try and keep temps to normal for three months and redo my mycroscopy and see what my blood looks like compared to last time. I could be wrong on my theory about this, but I think having low body temp is keeping me from gaining control over my candida, mainly due to the fact that before the thyroid meds anytime I did anything physical that raised my temp it put me into horrible die off. I'll keep everyone posted as to how my theory is working out. Also, with my temp up my energy level is a lot better.
Deb
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- Re: Diflucan? Johnny Vegas
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 289,686> I know its possible to restart the thyroid so maybe I have, if temp goes back down will resume the meds
Wow thats great news. Let me know how it goes. What kind of thermometer are you using to measure temperature?
> No, I've had the 24 hr. urine test for heavy metals twice about a year apart and checked out pretty good. Was a little high in cadmium, nickel and one other one can't remember off hand. Had no elevation at all of mercury or aluminum, those were the two I was mainly concerned with. The tests were done by Great Smokies Labs and cost $1,000.00 so I hope they were reliable.
My advice would be to get a hair test. They are cheap and give you a lot of information - not just on toxic metals but on essential elements. Hopefully the urine test was accurate, but having a hair test will be an extra confirmation, not to mention telling you about your nutrient status.
I forget - are you in the UK or the US? If you are in the UK then Mineral Check will do a hair analysis for £49 (01622 630044).
JV.
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- Re: To JV deb_46
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This is a reply to # 289,689Hi JV,
When I was first diagnosed with candida my doc drew blood and had it sent off and it checked for vitamins, minerals, amino acids, mtabolites, fatty acids, antioxidants. Came back I was deficient in calcium, B12 and zinc. Everything else was fine. I've been giving myself B12 shots on and off for the past year and supplementing the others.
I'm in the US. I think my doc does the hair test also, the first time I saw him I asked him that I wanted to most comprehensive test that he could do to check my vitamin and mineral levels because I figured I had to be deficient somewhere to be so sick and he chose the "FIA Comprehensive Profile 5000" by SpectraCell Labs out of Houston Texas.
If this keeping my temps up doesn't give me the improvement I'm hoping for I might ask him about the hair test. The only thing is I color my hair and I thought I read somewhere that they can't get accurate analysis if you color your hair, is that right?
Deb- Re: To JV Johnny Vegas
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 289,691> I read somewhere that they can't get accurate analysis if you color your hair, is that right?
Yes apparently so, but Cutler says that the easiest way to get around this is to use pubic hair. Although many of the labs say that you should only use hair from the back of the head (because this is what they standardize their tests with) apparently any body hair will do and many people have been obtianing accurate hair results with pubic hair.
> When I was first diagnosed with candida my doc drew blood and had it sent off and it checked for vitamins, minerals, amino acids, mtabolites, fatty acids, antioxidants.
OK thats great. Were you deficient in any aminos? Did you supplement any?
> Came back I was deficient in calcium, B12 and zinc. Everything else was fine. I've been giving myself B12 shots on and off for the past year and supplementing the others.
Thats great about the B12. But I would be *very* surprised if these were all you were deficient in.
Blood testing is certainly good, but hair testing will still give you an "extra look" so to speak. Its a very cheap/quick/convenient test to do.
> If this keeping my temps up doesn't give me the improvement I'm hoping for I might ask him about the hair test
Ok but bear in mind that most practioners don't know how to read a hair test, which may mean he deems it unnecessary. My nutritionist deemed my hair test so "unspectacular" that she didn't even give it to me! It took me 4 months to get it off her, and it is by far the most informative test I have ever taken. It should be compulsory IMHO for anyone with any chronic illness.
JV.
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- Re: To JV deb_46
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 289,693Yes, my aminos were fine. I'll definitely give the hair test a try if things don't start turning around for me. I don't know about you but I am sick of being sick!!!
It feels sometimes like my old me is trapped in this body and I just can't get out.
I think I caught part of a discussion of yours that you had done some chelating. I did about 3 of the IV chelations and either die off or just detox from them were too severe and I opted to not do anymore. My doc had said I probably only needed a couple anyway since my levels were all pretty good. He gave me a glutathione shot the other day he said to help clean out my liver and thought I would feel better after it, all it did was give me horrendous die off and then a bad kidney infection a couple days later. I don't know if I'm that toxic that everything hits me hard or just still have so much candida, not sure really. I've done several H202 IV's also in my candida battle and they haven't cured me either.
I'm a lot better than I was a year ago, was still trying to survive the Epstein-Barr this time last year but I'm still far from my pre-sick days.
Deb- Re: To JV Johnny Vegas
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 289,706OK I'm going to tell you some things that you may find quite interesting. If you want a 2nd opinion on anything I say then feel free to ask Anne/Boronia.
> I did about 3 of the IV chelations and either die off or just detox from them were too severe and I opted to not do anymore. My doc had said I probably only needed a couple anyway since my levels were all pretty good.
IV chelations are just about the worst thing you can do. Especially if you are heavy metal poisoned. Basically the chemistry of chelation is such that one-off doses, or large doses are dangerous and can result in horrendous side effects. This isn't me saying this, this is Andy Cutler who is the world's leading expert on how to chelate correctly. I've read his writings with an extremely critical mind, and the guy knows what he is talking about.
Even at a low dose - 100mg of ALA, that was too much for me. I started getting classic mercury side-effects of paranoia, low self-esteem etc.
> He gave me a glutathione shot the other day he said to help clean out my liver and thought I would feel better after it, all it did was give me horrendous die off and then a bad kidney infection a couple days later
Gluthione IV is the other worst thing you can do - especially if you are heavy metal poisoned.
The more I learn about your case the more I think you would really benefit from a hair test. My advice is to get the hair test from Doctors Data: http://www.doctorsdata.com/Contact.htm
Doctors data have 2 types of hair test - toxic metals and hair elements. You want the *hair elements* which includes everything - both toxic metals and essential nutrients.
I don't mean to put down your doc, because by all accounts he is doing what many doctors would do - but you need to start taking matters into your own hands.
JV.
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This is a reply to # 289,707Thanks for the info, interesting. He offered me the option to do oral DMSA if I wanted after I told him I wouldn't do anymore IV's but am going to hold off on considering doing that until I give this raising my temp a whole three months and see where I stand with the candida and my health at that point. I have been sleeping better and finally waking up with that refreshed feeling for the first time in over a year, have no idea how proper thyroid function plays into that, not going to question it, just enjoy it! Thanks again for all the info, after my trial 3 months if I don't see improvement that will be my next road to explore definitely.
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 289,719>but am going to hold off on considering doing that until I give this raising my temp a whole three months and see where I stand with the candida and my health at that point.
Ok.
>I have been sleeping better and finally waking up with that refreshed feeling for the first time in over a year, have no idea how proper thyroid function plays into that, not going to question it, just enjoy it!
Its weird I feel the same thing - for me it wasn't so much the glandulars, but it was an amino acid (histidine) which I was deficient in. So I know exactly what you are talking about! It does feel good to wake up refreshed and not brain-fogged.
>Thanks again for all the info, after my trial 3 months if I don't see improvement that will be my next road to explore definitely.
No problem.
JV.
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- Here is what Cutler has to say Johnny Vegas
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This is a reply to # 289,706Here is what Andy Cutler has to say about Glutathione IV's and why they are a bad idea:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/57321
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/36198
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/35451
Here is what he has to say about "Inappropriate" Chelation protocols such as IV Chelation:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/1740
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/2658
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/921
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/34733
Cutler on where to get a hair test from - he recommeneds DDI (doctors data inc), but apparently you need a doctors order to get one:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/35455
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- Re: Diflucan? boronia
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 289,686>I could be wrong on my theory about this, but I think having low body temp is keeping me from gaining control over my candida, mainly due to the fact that before the thyroid meds anytime I did anything physical that raised my temp it put me into horrible die off. I'll keep everyone posted as to how my theory is working out. Also, with my temp up my energy level is a lot better.
Hi Deb, I agree with you re the temps. That's why naturopaths usually suggest things like hot tubbing/sitz baths to induce a fever as it's one the ways the body overcomes illness. In chronic illnesses, the body is unable to have 'acutes' which although are uncomfortable are very healing. They really have to be done under supervision, esp things like hot tubbing.
Having said that, traditional naturopaths wouldn't have had to deal with the high of pollutants eg mercury we get today so just inducing fevers etc may not be enough. As Johnny said, mercury may well be an issue for you even though it's not been picked up in the tests.
Perhaps doing extra enemas will help with any die-off you get, plus extra liver support etc.?
Anne
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This is a reply to # 289,679Hi Johnny. Well I suppose everyones views and opinions differ but I agree with most of what you are saying. Its all very controversial. I, like you, did not believe in Homeopathy - but maybe if you had seen the miracle I have seen in such a short time you would surely begin to question it! From what I understand from my sister this doctor of course agrees with you in the fact that mercury should not be injected in human beings. However his treatment protacol focuses on why and for what reason these kids are pre-disposed to manifestations of their symptoms. In his opinion - its a dysfunctional immune system which if healthy, strong and working optimally initially would deal with anything - toxic metals included. Of course this is just one mans views - however for me personally I have witnessed the results of these views and know of many others recover from the depths of autism.
Amanda
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