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Friendship consists in forgetting what one gives, and remembering what one receives.
Interesting statistics from internet Forums: People are about 100 times more likely to report a negative experience with any therapy, then a positive! For every single person reporting a negative experience, there are at least 100 people who have had a positive experience, but they were never motivated to write a message about it. Being healthy and being pain free, or symptoms free is not very motivating. Not as motivating as gallstone attack, or kidney stones attack!
Why? Because, when we are healthy, we don't care about health. When we are healthy, we don't frequent health forums. When we are healthy, we don't contact newspapers asking them to publish our story. Let's face it: majority of people visiting CureZone are people who have some unpleasant health problem. Once they solve their problem, majority (but not all) leave CureZone without ever reporting positive results, and the only time you ever hear back from them is when they encounter another problem, and they come back asking for help. Those who are successful in curing or managing their health problems are usually leaving CureZone while those who are not very successful are staying and trying, while in the meantime, posting messages about their unsuccessful attempts to regain health, or about problems encountered.
Don't get me wrong. This is not something that is unique to Alternative medicine or something that is unique to CureZone. This is something that is common on all health forums. I will give you just a few examples from mainstream medicine. Take a look at Gallbladder Surgery Forum: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=439
Of over 400 messages, you will find 5 people reporting positive experience after Gallbladder Surgery while you will find hundreds of people reporting negative. You will also find many stories where Surgery caused serious health problems even death.
Again, the same story on this thread:
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=73&i=401
The thread contains over 200 messages, and you will find 5 people talking positive about Gallbladder Surgery!
By reading those messages and by naturally estimating your chances based on those reports, you may believe that there are very many people dying as the consequence of gallbladder surgery, when in reality, that surgery belongs to the group of safest surgical procedures and very few people die annually.
The reality is: 70- 80% of people feel just fine after the gallbladder surgery, and are usually symptoms free after few weeks.
But, could you get that picture by reading CureZone forums? NO way!.
Forums are often "painting" a very distorted picture of any therapy.
Why is that so? Reason is simple: people who have positive experience, those who are symptoms free and pain free after the surgery, they are healthy and they don't need CureZone.
Why would they come to CureZone and discuss Surgery? Very few are actually doing that, usually those who have some other health problem.
Now that you understand how hard it is to get healthy people to post a message, I have a very simple request:
Please, if you have had a positive experience with Gallbladder Surgery or with any therapy discussed on CureZone, please report it. It doesn't have to be a 3 page story. Even a single sentence can sometimes say more then a whole page of text. You don't have to write a book. You don't have to share your complete medical history with us. Just post a simple message.
We also have a special forum where we are collecting experiences with Liver Flush: Liver Flush - Reporting Results: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=565
If you completed at least 6 flushes, or if liver flushes have helped you regain health, please post your message inside that forum. It might help somebody. It is not important to post how many cholesterol stones you got, or how big those stones were. It is far more important to post what symptoms you were experiencing before, and how your health was changed after the liver flushes.
In case you got out some calcified stones, you should report it. Also, if your stones were analyzed, please report the results.
Please, do not post a message after a single liver flush. One flush is rarely enough to solve any health problem. Wait until you tried at least several flushes, 6, 10 or more, so that you are certain that flushes did-or did not work.
CureZone forums are not unique. If you read major news sites or newspapers, you will see that 95% of all stories on alternative medicine are negative stories. Often, it is death.
Few examples:- Quest for cure ends in Minnesotan's death
- Questionable medicine
- Utah man charged in cancer patient's death
- Five-Year Sentence in Prison for illegal sales of apricot seeds
- Fate of boy declared brain-dead up to court
- More on Jesse Koochin's story
There is a devil in every berry of the grape.
The head learns new things, but the heart forever practices old experiences.
- Now that we know how internet and media is creating an extremely distorted
picture of alternative medicine, it is fairly easy to understand why there are
still people who choose to believe to "Quackbusters" and their overly paranoid
websites. Quackbusters are convinced that alt-med people are evil. They
call alternative medicine sCAM. Do you know what is the difference between paranoia and
phobia? The fear in paranoia is usually associated with the
perceived malevolent intent of another person or persons. People with
paranoia are convinced that the causes of their fears are real and that their
fears are rational, while adults with phobias know that the symptoms of fear
or anxiety that they experience are excessive and irrational responses to
essentially benign objects and situations.
Quackbusters totally believe that majority of people involved in alternative medicine are bad, uneducated, stupid and are after your money (scammers). At least majority of them believe so. If you would read quackwatch website, you would come to conclusion that if you use alternative medicine, it will increase your chances of dying or being seriously injured roughly 100 times!?
Few days ago I joined a healthfraud mailing list (quackwatch mailing list), and in just a few days, I was able to read messages from at least 20 people who are overly paranoid about any and every form of alternative medicine. Some of them are so paranoid, that they call naturopaths blood sucking parasites who are sucking blood from their patients until patients die.
Here are few examples of humor from healthfraud list:- My aroma therapist stinks,
my bowel cleansing therapist is full of sh-t!
My acupuncturist keeps needling me,
I don't see eye-to-eye with my iridologist,
my graphologist can't read my writing,
I feel manipulated by my chiropractor,
my touch therapist won't keep her hands off me,
I can't count on my numerologist,
my homeopath doesn't give me much of anything,
and my psychic healer makes me sick.
I think my chiropractor is cracking up,
my massage therapist is rubbing me the wrong way,
I don't believe in my faith healer anymore,
my channeler is on a different frequency.
- My aroma therapist stinks,
Hear one side and you will be in the dark. Hear both and all will be clear.
- Anyway, there are some really interesting debates on that list, so I
suggest you to join and have some fun:
To subscribe, send a message to: [email protected] and then reply to a confirmation message.
If nothing, you will have some good laugh, and, laugh is the best medicine.
Change the changeable, accept the unchangeable, and remove yourself
from the unacceptable.
- Husband's chronic canker sore problem gone
My husband used to suffer from canker sores. Every month he would have at least one, sometimes more - it has been this way for many years. They are thought to be caused by allergy. Since doing 3 liver flushes over a year ago now, he has not had a single one since.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=565&i=163
- The Emotional Disturbances Caused by Vaccines
1984 The British Epidemiological Research Laboratory publishes a study relative to Pertussis vaccinations, saying "Since the decline in Pertussis immunization, hospital admissions and death rates from whooping cough have fallen unexpectedly."
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=74&i=686
- Skull Cancer and Worms Images (Warning!
Strong images!)
Photographs taken of a patient with skull cancer. Skull and scalp are covered with cancerous tumor.
http://curezone.com/image_gallery/parasites/brainworms/default.asp
- Castor Oil defeats persistent arm wart
My mother had what looked like a raised mole on her arm for a very long time. When my father died it changed color and went funny then went back to its normal look.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=273&i=193
- Edgar Cayce's MS Treatment by Dudley
I developed multiple sclerosis in 1991 and gradually, over a two year period, overcame it using an alternative treatment suggested by Edgar Cayce.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=65&i=703
- Experimental Treatment Heals Paralyzed Dogs
Researchers at Purdue University in Indiana treated the dogs with a liquid polymer called polyethylene glycol, or PEG, within 72 hours of suffering a spinal injury.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=1176
By visualizing your goals, you can get your subconscious to work
toward making these mental pictures come true.
- Olive Oil Makers Win Approval to Make Health Claim on Label
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- Emotional Abuse.. Why should I care?
I am 34 years old. Have a great husband and blessing of a daughter.
For as long as I can remember, my mother has emotional, verbally, mental abused me, this is still an ongoing event today.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=62&i=497
- My abortion story.
I was 19 when I got pregnant when I was with my live-in boyfriend. It was some what of a shock as I was really just a child myself.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=567&i=32
- My abortion story by Ev
The days and months following that ordeal were quite emotional for me from sadness, guilt, shame, anger you name it I felt it. I started seeking, and wondering about life. I started seeking God instead of booze & drugs.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=567&i=34
- I'll Hold you in heaven.
I have a book, I'll hold you in Heaven, that a friend gave to me. I'll hold you in Heaven--Healing and hope for the parent who has lost a child through Miscarriage, Stillbirth, Abortion or Early Infant Death by Jack Hayford
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=567&i=26
- I also had an abortion almost 10 years ago. by Babycakes
This is a decision I have regretted and grieved over since that very day. There is not a day that goes by I do not think about the child that should be in my arms today.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=567&i=12
- Shirley's story
As a little 6 year old, her mother had left her in charge of her year old baby sister while the baby was being bathed. The mother left the room, but Shirley had not wanted to watch the baby, and rather ran to play outside.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=567&i=17
- Turned 5 day into a 7 day liver detox by thebirdlady
I'm starting to experience the benefit from my liver detox! I can't believe this, but the "age" spots on my hands are gone! I had 3 dark ones and a beautician wanted to freeze them off using dry ice! They are gone. And I am feeling wonderful!
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=321&i=2873
- my floaters are disappearing with eyebright wash by chrissy11
After years of floaters, 3 days ago I started using an eyebright tea eyewash three times a day. Last night I had a fever, terrible headache behind my eyes, and I was really tired. Woke up with headache and still really tired.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=518&i=45
- How much chaff can the liver hold?
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=447&i=10801
I am a great believer in luck and the harder I work the more of it I have.
- We all feed off Andreas' wonderful spirit.
I would like to express my gratitude to Andreas for embodying and sharing this spirit, and also, most dearly to the other forum members for participating so generously in this process. I am deeply grateful that I can tune into this energy every day whether or not I am asking questions.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=264&i=3102
- Re: The 5 Day Liver Detox - I am not thrilled by Tyler
I have done four of Dr. Schulze's five day liver/gall bladder cleanses. I never felt poorly before doing any of them. I have always felt relatively well. When I have done them, I did not notice any stones passing, but each time, I felt greater mental clarity, my skin improved, minor headaches disappeared.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=321&i=2859
- Re: My cleanse continues with P&B shakes starting today! by Giz
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=329&i=6373
- Ten Reasons Women Should Lift Weights
Research has found that weight training can increase spinal bone mineral density (and enhance bone modeling) by 13 percent in six months. This, coupled with an adequate amount of dietary calcium, can be a women's best defense against osteoporosis.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=211&i=178
Effective communication is 20% what you know and 80% how you feel
about what you know.
- Poisons, Begone!
The "dubious" science behind the Scientologists' detoxification program for 9/11 rescue workers.
By Amanda Schaffer
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=542&i=57
- Do you feel safe? FDA retaliate on Vioxx whistleblower
Star witness who criticized his agency's drug safety record contends he's under pressure to be 'exiled' to a different job.
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=542&i=74
- Drug Safety Questioned
In a sharp pivot, many medical authorities are questioning the fundamental safety guarantees for American drugs, threatening to dull the national appetite that has demanded and devoured pharmaceuticals at a faster clip for nearly a generation.
"This building is on very shaky ground. Would I condemn it? No, but I would tell people, 'You go in at your own risk.'"
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=1172
- Pharmaceuticals considered generally UNSAFE by Jawg
"Pharmaceuticals are potentially dangerous, and should be used only in extreme circumstances; they must ALL be considered dangerous because there is no disclosure of ANY dangers by the manufacturer"
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=542&i=79
Effective communication is 20% what you know and 80% how you feel
about what you know.
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- Cholesterol Down 121 Points Charly
20 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 67,396I just got blood test results back and am happy to say that hard work on my health has paid off!
April 2003 my cholesterol was 371. In December of 2003 I changed several life style habits. I refused to take cholesterol-lowering drugs, but did take one bottle of plant sterols (Cholest-off) last year.
I quit eating processed sugar, and all white flour products. I no longer drink sodas or coffee, and drink only pure water and herbal teas. I quit drinking cows milk, and very rarely eat meat, poultry or fish. I have focused on eating mostly fresh fruits, vegetables (usually 9-10 a day), legumes, nuts and grains. I 'juice' apples and various carrot combinations a few times a week. I eat oatmeal, freshly ground flaxseed and 10 almonds daily.
I have taken many vitamins, supplements and fiber in the past year. I started walking for about 40 minutes at least 5 times a week, and rebounding on my mini-trampoline for at least 10 minutes a day. I do some deep breathing daily and make sure I get a good nights sleep at night.
I have done two 60 day purges for micro-organisms, yeast and parasites - one in January and one in July, and plan to do one in January... and twice a year for the rest of my life, if I need it or not! (ha-ha, I believe EVERYONE needs this) I have done 4 liver flushes, and see evidence of improvement every time. My thyroid comes up ok on medical tests, but on the under-the-arm, first thing in the morning temperature, it has been low, along with some other hypothyroid symptoms, but gets closer to normal every time I do a liver flush.
I am a 61 year old female and am feeling good. My endurance is better than my 40 year old niece, who I helped for three days last week moving furniture and heavy house work. My gums are healthy according to my dentist, and a large hemroid is gone.
And the best news today for me is that my cholesterol is down to 250!! Down 121 points!! I know it is still too high, but I am encouraged and plan to focus more intently in getting it lower.
Who says this natural stuff doesn't work?!! It takes time, but I feel confident that my underlying health is steadily improving.
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I just got blood test results back and am happy to say that hard work on my health has paid off!
April 2002 my cholesterol was 371. In December of 2002 I changed several life style habits. I refused to take cholesterol-lowering drugs, but did take one bottle of plant sterols (Cholest-off) last year.
I quit eating processed sugar, and all white flour products. I no longer drink sodas or coffee, and drink only pure water and herbal teas. I quit drinking cows milk, and very rarely eat meat, poultry or fish. I have focused on eating mostly fresh fruits, vegetables (usually 9-10 a day), legumes, nuts and grains. I 'juice' apples and various carrot combinations a few times a week. I eat oatmeal, freshly ground flaxseed and 10 almonds daily.
I have taken many vitamins, supplements and fiber in the past year. I started walking for about 40 minutes at least 5 times a week, and rebounding on my mini-trampoline for at least 10 minutes a day. I do some deep breathing daily and make sure I get a good nights sleep at night.
I have done two 60 day purges for micro-organisms, yeast and parasites - one in January and one in July, and plan to do one in January... and twice a year for the rest of my life, if I need it or not! (ha-ha, I believe EVERYONE needs this) I have done 4 liver flushes, and see evidence of improvement every time. My thyroid comes up ok on medical tests, but on the under-the-arm, first thing in the morning temperature, it has been low, along with some other hypothyroid symptoms, but gets closer to normal every time I do a liver flush.
I am a 61 year old female and am feeling good. My endurance is better than my 40 year old niece, who I helped for three days last week moving furniture and heavy house work. My gums are healthy according to my dentist, and a large hemroid is gone.
And the best news today for me is that my cholesterol is down to 250!! Down 121 points!! I know it is still too high, but I am encouraged and plan to focus more intently in getting it lower.
Who says this natural stuff doesn't work?!! It takes time, but I feel confident that my underlying health is steadily improving.- Re: Cholesterol Down 121 Points jeremy77
19 y
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This is a reply to # 67,402Congratulations Charly, great job!!
Sounds like you are committed to regaining your health and taking the proper actions to do so. I also commend you on avoiding the drugs. Sounds like you going down the right path to achieving your health goals. You have done a greaat job so far.
If you are interested in further improvement I can make some recommendations for you. First not knowing your knowledge on the whole subject, I would recommend that you visit Dr. Mercolas web site and frequent it if haven't already. You will learn much there about Cholesterol and dietary techniques, just type cholesterol into the search engine there. Cholesterol is a symptom of an underlying cause not the cause. These lower cholesterol campaigns on TV make me sick.
Your doing great avoiding Sugar and white flour but that may not be enough for you if you are still eating lots of grains, all grains break down into Sugar in the body and produce the same reaction, no too healthy.(I think oatmeal is on of the best grains if you must eat them, also sprouted breads) You may need more grain reduction, you can learn about that at Mercola.com. For accurate knowledge of how many grains you should be eating you should take a metabolic test to see if you are protein type or carb type. Protien type; less grain.
Next it sounds like you may need more healthy saturated fats. Don't believe the hype they are healthy, find out more on mercola.com type it in search engine there. A great saturated fat for you to use is organic virgin coconut oil it will provide many benefits for you, as well as bring up your body temps pretty quickly by stimulating the thyroid, possibly helping with your elevated cholesterol too! Of course mercola has a section on coconut oil as well!
With these things in your arsenal, I know you will achieve you hearts desire!
- Re: Cholesterol Down 121 Points Charly
19 y
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This is a reply to # 67,492Thanks for your encouraging words.
If you noticed, it was 10 months ago that I made the entry, and I was trying not to go into too much detail.
Thanks for mentioning Dr. Mercola's website. It has been a long time since I visited there, but I have read several other natural health books, and find I have been doing about 90% of what Dr. Mercola recommends on the advanced level for some time. In reviewing the website, I found the ERT info especially helpful.
A few months ago I added fasting and enemas to the spring/fall cleansing and detoxing and ongoing healthy lifestyle that I have developed. I feel very good, have lots of energy, and at 62 years old, have no health problems, and look at least 10 years younger than I am. I wish everyone could try this way of living to see how great it is.
Thanks again for taking time to write a reply.
- Re: Cholesterol Down 121 Points JEREMY77
19 y
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This is a reply to # 67,493Yes I noticed it was old after I finished my response so I just posted it.
As I said you are doing very good, I am glad that you found Mercola to be helpful for you. He is constantly bringing new content so it's easier to just get the newsletter to get a snap shot of the new info every week to see if you need to visit.
"I wish everyone could try this way of living to see how great it is."
I agree, too bad so many people could care less until they are on thier death bed!
good luck to you!
- Re: Cholesterol Down 121 Points JEREMY77
19 y
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- Re: Cholesterol Down 121 Points Charly
19 y
14,128
- Re: Cholesterol Down 121 Points jeremy77
19 y
14,580
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