Help, I want to know if this is safe... 
Gr8ful
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Hello all readers, thank you for taking the time to read my question.
I am currently planning on going on an 8 week liquid diet and was wondering if it is safe.
I plan on consuming 6 liters of water everyday - 1 liter per 30 lbs of body weight and cutting down 1 liter for every 30 lbs I lose. I need to lose 60lbs cause that is how much over weight I am.
My goal is healing, and not allowing obsticles to healing by my poor habits from over my entire life. I hope to break that pattern and re astablish good eating habits when I am through with my 8 weeks.
I have had several health problems and may have had a minor heart attack just recently, not sure. But my body needs to be allowed to heal, and NOW!
Here is a list of the supplements that I will be adding to my filtered water.
1. montmorillonite clay - about 6 servings a day 1 teaspoon in 8 oz of water
2. baking soda - to raise alkalinity 2-3 teaspoons for every liter of water
3. green powder : ingredients include organic wheat grass, and concentraded organic wheat grass juice, organic kamut grass, and concentraded organic kamut grass juice,organic barely grass, and concentraded organic barely grass juice, organic alfafa leaf, and concentraded organic alfafa leaf juice, spirulina, alkazyme (from papiyas) and natural flavors 1 teaspoon for every liter of water
4. Soybean Sprout concentrate 1 teaspoon for every liter of water
5. Omega 3,6,9 from flaxseed and borage 3000 mg 3 times a day
So this is basically what I plan on taking for the next 8 weeks, and I was wondering if someone that understands a bit about fasting could tell me if they think this will cause damage or help heal. And if there are other things I should add and why. Or things I should take out and why.
Thank you again.
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I personally don't think it is a good idea. You have a lifetime of bad habits and several health scares recently including a possible heart attack. You are in no condition to undertake such an extreme program. It would be like you going out to try to run a marathon. I would start by trying to add some moderate exercise like walking and healthy eating to your regime and then maybe build up to a juice fast of a couple of days, then build up to a juice fast of a week, and then when you are making good progress consider a Water Fast with supplements (although I personally don't think an eight week one is healthy or needed). You are trying to do too much to soon. Concentrate on trying to make slow steady progress and stick with a reasonable program, and accept that there may be days you break it and cheat but be willing to start back up and not throw in the towel.Advertisement
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Thank you for your concern about too much too soon.
I guess it would seem to be that way, yet I have been working on this for a few years now, for the past few years I have been on a diet on about 70 percent organic. 60 percent of the time. lol
This year alone
I have fasted on water for 11 days.
I have done the master cleanse diet an quit on day 7.
I have had several shorter 3 day fasts.
I have done all the cleanses.
I even have a infared sauna to sweat with.
And I keep making excuses to quit things that I know are doing good because symtoms start to disappear.
I think I can start again, I have lost a lot of weight and then re gained it.
I can not do a baby step program or a slowly work it in because it allows my mind to let other little things creep in and then I just say ** this and crash ...back to all my bad habits all over again.
Some changes that I have made have lasted, but not enough to put a dent in all the symptoms that I am having.
This whole year I have been starting this , cuttin out that, adding this, and on and on. But I keep quitting before sufficent healing can occur.
And then I actually get down on myself about it and go backwards.
I am the type of person that if I give myself an inch I will take a mile.
Sabotage seems to be my middle name.
I love myself, just tired of my excuses. I do not want to tell myself I can not do it. Because if it can be done, then I can do it.
People have healed themselves, I believe what seems drastic is not as drastic as one may think, but nesscessary with all the red flags I have going up.
I just want to know if it will be harmful to my body. Am I lacking something my body needs?
My mind will suffer from withdrawls I am sure cause I have been through that.
I keep saying to myself I am going to start again, so I guess I need to be fixed on something that lasts long enough to make a big enough difference that I will not be willing to go back on. And also long enough to break a pattern that needs to be broken. Does this make since?
Thanks again so much.
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It sounds like you are on the classic yo-yo that a lot of dieters get on. Also the gambler that says he will quit after he makes the one last big play. It never works. There is no reason to think that one big fast will be enough to break you of all of your up and down habits.You have done an 11 day Water Fast before. Will a longer fast kill you? Probably not, but what is the point? I think you need to take a different approach to try to regain your health and rid yourself of your habits. I can't say that I know what that is. Fasting can be part of a health protocol, but it shouldn't be the whole part. You say that you eat 70% organic, 60% of the time. Well that is better then a lot of people. I am not sure what you refer to when talking about bad habits. Smoking? Binge eating? Alcohol? Junk Food? Each of those may take a different approach to try to wipe out. In terms of the fast, listen to your body. If you are miserable and weak during it, what is the point. If you feel pretty strong physically and mentally then keep going. Again, I personally am not a big believer in extended water fasts.Advertisement
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Thanks again, what you post is very true, yo yo. I agree that one big fast will not cure all. It took me years to get into bad shape and it is not going to all be healed with 2 months of liquid dieting.
I do not consider this a water fast. Because of what I will be adding to my water.
I guess my point is to cut the string and roll onto a healthy way of living. And perhaps 2 months without all those foods I crave such as carbs, and sugar mostly, will be cleansed out of me. I have read many books, and some books suggest that the cravings come from cells that are addicted to certain foods. ( Candida) And that not giving them that food will cause them to die off. And cravings go away. I have already cut down on these foods drastically from my past, yet some of them need to be cut out completely. And when I am healthier maybe once or twice year at a relatives house or something.
Binge eating and junk food have been my biggest problem. And so is not drinking enough water. So I am trying to break a pattern and add a healthy one. Perhaps 8 weeks is too long. But I feel like it will take that long to get into some good patterns and to plan on what to do once I am finished. I want the changes to be permenant.
You do not think this will kill me... well that is good. Do you think if I succeed it will benefit me if I stay on a good healthy eating plan and exercise daily ?
I deeply appreciate your frankness and time. Thank you
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Hello Gr8ful you sound like someone who would benefit from a juicefeast.Check out the demos at juicefeast.com you might find theme of interest.Cleaning up ones diet can be difficult to say the least.If you have enough disipline to do an 11 day Water Fast with suppluments then juicefast/feasting should be an easy way to transition into a healthy lifestyle.Happy feasting/fasting. - Re: Help, I want to know if this is ... #69242
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If you think that doing the fast is the motivation you will need to kick the habits, and you don't go over board, then maybe it will help you. A lot of getting healthy is physcological. I still am not a big believer in extended water fasts. You are taking some supplements, but it is still a water fast. Two months is a long time. I don't have much experience with long fasts, but if I remember correctly, your metabolism gets slowed way down so you may put back on the weight when you start eating again. If you are worried you have candida then you need to be on some anti-fungals too. You can cut out some of the candida foods and still eat healthy. Candida symptoms are pretty general - just because you crave junk foods doesn't mean you have it. Whatever you decide to do, the important thing is to not give up if you have bad days. Just because you eat junk food one day doesn't mean you need to go on a junkfood bender. Just resolve to try harder tomorrow and don't get too down on yourself.- Re: Help, I want to know if this is ... been there done that
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This is a reply to # 933,931Gr8ful,
Blackngold made a VERY important statement..."A lot of getting healthy is physcological". Many people overwhelm themselves with stress in their attempts to get healthy in a hurry when there really is no emergency. Relax, eat right, and stop flushing yourself needlessly.
Your body feels alot of stress from constant flushing...because it is being stressed and not being allowed to balance itself out. Vegetable juices are very good nutrition (especially fresh with live enzymes) and require virtually no digestion (only metabolism, digestion drains alot of energy from the body). You want to get a reasonable amount of fiber and water (too much water rinses away nutrients unnecessarily) and eating easily digestible foods is a big help to your digestive tract also. "Death begins in the colon" is a saying that is common to nutritionists because the colon is where we digest and absorb what we put into our bodies (if we don't ABSORB properly, it doesn't matter how healthy our food is).
HEALTH begins in the colon.
Your diet would be very strenuous on your nerves. If you didn't feel a pain in your left??? arm before what you think was a heart attack, it might just have been heartburn (it's called that because it so close, it very often is mistaken for a heart attack).
Check Dr. Mercola for health tips. You can put a search term in his search box. You can also sign up for his FREE newsletter.
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I have been in your place, so please excuse my direct answer to your question. You've posed an inquiry, asking if this were safe, yet when you did not get a positive answer you replied with why it was safe. It seems you have decided what you are going to do without any help.
2ndly.....you said that you "can't" and why things haven't worked in the past, but you have contradicted yourself by saying you believe in yourself and "know it will work".
I would recommend a nutritionist, counselor or dietition if you do not want to seek medical help.
This is such a radical routine, that I doubt you're going to find qualified experts in this forum to support this kind of diet.
Please re-examine your motives.....you can eat healthy....and you CAN do it without such drastic unconventional measures. Truly dig deep and find that source within you to tell yourself you are truly capable of being successful and leading to a healthier life.
Take it from a former experimenter......eating real food and following daily exercise is much more joyful and rewarding. It took me 51 years to change my habits, but I feel better than I have in many many years. I have some ways to go....but the hardest part is over. We're all works in progress....so never stop seeking answers!
Best of luck to you!- Re: Help, I want to know if this is ... Gr8ful
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You are very correct about my out look. I am very stuborn that way. Once my mind is set it is hard to change its coarse, so that is why I posted. I do contradict myself all the time.
I think I have a split mind. lol
I fell weak about food and that is why I have chosen such a drastic measure for the onset. I prepare 3 meals a day for my family, and I love carbs, rice and noodles are my weakness. 5 kids and my husband
I am also a bit scared with the latests signals for change, to me they are like red flags.
I thank all of you for your advice and concern and I will certainly try to be gentle and relaxed about it.
I am sure my plan is a reaction to the fears I have, and I want to respond in a healthy way, so that is why I posted the question.
Thanks again everyone
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Dangers of Liquid Diets
Using Liquids For Weight LossWhat is more nutritious?
- - A canned liquid diet OR
- - A glass of water and a multi-vitamin?
We can tell our readers that the safest manner of weight loss doesn't come in a can or bottle.
Our bodies may have started out with the sole ability of processing liquids, but after we exited infancy, our needs changed. Solids became a necessity. And when our stomach doesn't receive incoming food for processing, the metabolism tends to slide into slow motion, realizing that something is amiss - so it does its part by conserving calories, keeping the body operating until things stabilize.
What about canned diet concoctions used as meal supplements?
A small salad with lean slices of deli meat and a few cubes of cheese contains far less calories than most canned diet supplements. A canned diet supplement may contain 250 calories or more!
Common sense tells us that obtaining our vitamins naturally is the best method.
Satisfying Powers of Liquid Diets
To test the appetite-satisfying powers of liquid diets, drink one at meal time.
On the following day, try enjoying a serving of oatmeal with 1/2 cup of skimmed milk and a spoon of sugar - about two hundred calories.
Which sticks with you longer - the oatmeal, or the liquid diet?
In Summary
Before going on any liquid diet, you should seek the advice of your doctor. If a particular hidden condition exists, a liquid diet may prove fatal.
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Thank you all for your postings.
I have decided to keep the liquid diet intact with an addition to raw blended or juiced green foods.
Thank you all for your support. And great input. I think for once I should take someones advice.
Thanks
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