well, i guess they just have to be put down needlessly, then. (we are so overpopulated with strays not sure i would call it needless, though). i would rather see that than all the health problems it entails, especially when they are doing it at 4 months old, before major organs are even fully developed. i have seen what it did to me and many many women and i used to work at a veterinarian and saw the effects there and with my own animals. and, in female animals, they take the ovaries. then, they give them nothing to replace hormones they won't make anymore. they get fatty tumors and heart disease and arthritis and on and on. perhaps we should never have bred animals in the first place and just left nature alone. http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=839