Hi Silverjewel thanks for the info. I have killed a lot of small stuff as well and I am at the same point where herbs dont help anymore. I have tries some of the horsemeds as well but no results. can you please thell us how you make your own collidal silver and how much do you take? and what kind of MSM do you take and how much? I have some powdered MSM sitting at home but again for horse . would it be okay to take it.