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Re: I feel them kicking!
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Re: I feel them kicking!

Thank you dear for so eloquently proving my point.

Let me first say again I am not discounting the existence of parasites or the die-off reactions.

Learn to read.

And don't lump me in with doctors and other forum trolls who try to dismiss parasites and these lunatics who invoke delusional parasitosis.

All I am saying is that you cannot feel these things 'kick'. They are not cartoon animals.

Onto the FACTS...

ucmp berkeley edu phyla ecdysozoa nematoda

Introduction to the Nematoda
the roundworms

There are thousands of nematodes. Not only are there more than 15,000 known species of roundworms, but there are many thousands of individual nematodes in even a single handful of garden soil. And they keep coming! Some species of roundworm may contain more than 27 million eggs at one time and lay more than 200,000 of them in a single day. Some scientists have estimated that there may be as many as half a million more unkown species of roundworm yet to be discovered, an estimate based on the fact that many new species are still being discovered, that relatively few people are looking for more species, and that most roundworms look pretty much alike. If the estimated number of species is anywhere close to correct, it would mean that roundworms are the second most diverse group of animals, trailing behind only the arthropods.

Nematodes were once classified with a very large and heterogeneous cluster of animals grouped together on the basis of their overall worm-like appearance, simple structure of an internal body cavity called a pseudocoelom, and the lack of features such as cilia and a well-defined head that are found in most animals. This group, variously known as Aschelminths or Pseudocoelomata, is today no longer recognized as a natural one. It is quite likely that the simple body plan of these organisms has resulted from reduction and simplification from more than one group of ancestral organisms, and so the pseudocoelom is neither a uniquely derived nor useful character. (Wallace, Ricci, & Malone 1996) The simplicity is thus a result of secondary simplification from a more complex body design, and not necessarily an indication of primitive or simple origins. Current studies indicate that nematodes are actually related to the arthropods and priapulids in a newly recognized group, the Ecdysozoa.

nematode micrograph Nematode cross-section

Roundworms : The image at left shows a living microscopic roundworm as viewed with an Environmental SEM. The worm is approximately one millimeter long. At right, a diagrammatic view of the internal anatomy of a roundworm, showing the simplicity of its organization. See text below for discussion. (Click on either of the pictures above for a larger image).

The body of a nematode is long and narrow, resembling a tiny thread in many cases, and this is the origin of the group's name. The word "nematode" comes from a Greek word nema that means "thread". The epidermis (skin) of a nematode is highly unusual; it is not composed of cells like other animals, but instead is a mass of cellular material and nuclei without separate membranes. This epidermis secretes a thick outer cuticle which is both tough and flexible. The cuticle is a feature shared with arthropods and other ecdysozoans. As in those other groups, the cuticle is periodically shed during the life of a nematode as it grows, usually four times before reaching the adult stage. The cuticle is the closest thing a roundworm has to a skeleton, and in fact the worm uses its cuticle as a support and leverage point for movement. Long muscles lie just underneath the epidermis. These muscles are all aligned longitudinally along the inside of the body, so the nematode can only bend its body from side to side, not crawl or lift itself. A free-swimming roundworm thus looks rather like it is thrashing about aimlessly.

The muscles are activated by two nerves that run the length of the nematode on both the dorsal (back) and ventral (belly) side. Unlike other animals, where the nerves branch out to the muscle cells, a nematode's muscle cells branch toward the nerves. The ventral nerve has a series of nerve centers along its length, and both nerves connect to a nerve ring and additional nerve centers located near the head.

The head of a nematode has a few tiny sense organs, and a mouth opening into a muscular pharynx (throat) where food is pulled in and crushed. This leads into a long simple gut cavity lacking any muscles, and then to an anus near the tip of the body. Food digested in the gut is not distributed by any specialized vascular system, and neither is there a respiratory system for the uptake or distribution of oxygen. Rather, nutrients and waste are distributed in the body cavity, whose contents are regulated by an excretory canal along each side of the body.

Many nematodes are able to suspend their life processes completely when conditions become unfavorable; in these resistant states they can survive extreme drying, heat, or cold, and then return to life when favorable conditions return. This is known as cryptobiosis, and is a feature nematodes share with rotifers and tardigrades.

Fossil nematodes have been found in rocks from as early as the Carboniferous. Most living roundworms are microscopic, meaning that their discovery as fossils is likely to be difficult. On the other hand, one species of parasitic nematode can reach 13 meters in length -- it parasitizes the sperm whale. Nematodes also lack any substantial hard parts, again resulting in a spotty chance for fossilization. Despite these problems, fossil nematodes are occasionally found in amber (fossilized tree resin) from the Cenozoic. Because many of their relatives have left fossils dating from the Cambrian, it is likely that the nematodes have been around at least that long in some form.

If you've wandered around our exhibits much, you've seen many groups described as living just about anywhere. That statement goes triple for nematodes, who live not only in almost every geographic location on Earth, but live in such extreme habitats as ice and hot springs, as well as living on or in almost every other kind of animal and plant alive today. Free-living nematodes are extremely abundant in soils and sediments, where they feed on bacteria and detritus. Other nematodes are plant parasites and may cause disease in economically important crops. Still others parasitize animals (including humans); well-known parasitic nematodes include hookworms, pinworms, Guinea worm (genus Dracunculus), and intestinal roundworms (genus Ascaris).


If you know how comprehend English then you will also know that this does not mean ALL. THAT's why you can see some of the larger ones people pass.

But again MOST of the many thousands or hundreds of thousands of species are microscopic.

Microscopes were invented so that people could see things SMALLER THAN THE HUMAN EYE COULD DETECT.

These organisms live in a scale that can be many orders of magnitudes smaller than our own senses can detect.


White blood cells:

average approximately 11-12 micrometers in diameter. Micrometers are also known as microns, about one millionth of a meter.

Sorry but you cannot feel single white blood cells, this is pure nonsense.

This is unrelated but it reminds of when people pass mucous during candida cleanses and they see tendrils. Candida rhizomes are also of the micron scale, you cannot see these things at all.


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