Hey FF - You might be interested to hear that my partner flushed only with the Epsom Salts ! His first flush was OO/GJ free! After he drowned his 2nd ES dose, loads (over 1,000) stones came out. Half his flushes were like that .. never even needing to take the OO/GJ. After around 6 flushes, his tennis elbow (of 3 years +) healed.