Used a clove/walnut/etc tinture initially then switched to Clarkia . Within a few days, I started having weird pains that I thought were some kind of nasty liver reaction. Stopped taking it and the pains went away.
Now for the last few weeks I've been having liver and spleen pains. Started taking Clarkia again and the previous pains returned. Then I discovered something interesting...
I had some Chinese Bitters, GCG, Coptis and Curcurma and they suggested taking the last two before bedtime or to relax the bile ducts to pass a stone.
I took a dose of Coptis/Curcurma and 95% of the liver pain disappeared within 5 minutes!