unfortunately their site is down and you can only order by ccrd by phone: http://www.mhdewormer.com/ they list their telephone number there. you can look up their products however, because a lot of other places sell them.
the bowels can be restored obeying Nature for free, acid accumulations are removed by your new red blood cells and proper eating habits or the use of herbs. I prefer herbs, because I don't obey Nature all the time and that is why herbs even exist in health, they aid us in getting rid of non-human foods that didn't leave the body totally. You can use herbs if you know herbs and you have doubts and that is always a sign that herbs are not for you. Read herbal books, try Christopher's books and maybe later decide if you want to self-experiment with herbs.
I make my own herbs, so Naturally my methods are adding to what the Old Doctors did.
Do this, consume this herbal formula your self and take more and more and see if you have any ill effects. All good herbs do good. If you don't like the effect of an herb, don't suggest anyone else take it, there are plenty to choose from, or you can just obey Nature's Rules on food and never consume a herb again, with the exception of de-worming maintanence.
This is why Dr. Christopher and Dr. Hulda Clark and many others wrote books giving away their formulas!
Christopher and Schulze's information books explains the corruption/pollution with herbs and all explained to make your own, the same with Clark her self, she and they give the recipes.
I have always told people to make their own. You have to make your own to know what is used in the product, it is not hard if you have access to the internet and a live walnut tree helps! I think maybe 2 over the years actually do. I do not think anyone can get wormfree on taking commercial dewormer for the mere fact they will never take enough and never take it a lifetime and that is if it is a good dewormer to begin with.
Normally herbs that grow in your part of your country are best for you, I don't get into out of country herbs. When you ship herbs/foods to other countries, you take the risk that they will be sprayed with chemicals for bugs, etc.
I used to seek organic and then I learned their is much corruption in the commercial sales of organic and then decided wild crafted was much better. Wild crafted means grown Nature. Nature provided the seed and the correct soil type for each plant.
Organic means grown like a crop, but with out certain chemicals. The soils have been depleted over the years. The Amish have noticed that it takes 25+ years for the soil to return naturally. A bad field grows nothing but weeds. As the soil returns the weeds become less and less. Weeds like acid soils.
Bulk is the only way to go, I buy by the pound and sell by the pound, if they do not want that much, then they can go to a health food store and pay more for 1 bottle of capsules.
Herbs last longest in tincture and or syrup form. In cut/tea and powders they are best used in 1 year, but many will work many years later depending on their action.
Herbs start at $4-5 a pound and may run as high as $70 a pound for rare herbs or those used for female hormone complaints.
Then you have to decide if you want wild crafted, organic, those grown in the USA or out of country. Many times you don't have a choice with what country they come from if you wanting herbs that don't grow in your country.
I have used herb companies from the east coast to the west coast and inbetween. It really depends on what your looking for and for what purpose.
When you say bulk are you wanting herbs for tea? This is the cheapest form of herbs which is called cut and sifted.
If you want the cheapest, naturally you do not want a middle person like me. I raise or wild craft most of the herbs I use for liquids. I can not powder herbs or mass encapsulate them, so i have to depend on others.
Naturally the more you buy, the cheaper the price with herbs. Most give the first break at 5#, then 20#.
To buy wholesale the large companies are going to ask you for a vendors number.
I can get you just about anything in bulk, but you also can your self, you have the internet and a phone, there are thousands to choose from.
You must also realize that if you buy herbs in bulk commercially, odds are they may have came from over seas and been sprayed on ship with chemicals or later processed and inspected by the FDA and again, sprayed! To trust every store on the web, may or may not be of aid. Good luck!
In the world of self-applied prevention do not rely on a single commercial product, they have mans poisons all over them, seek a farmer that grow organic foods, the web has thousands of such people, it is a growing business!
Just one more reason to avoid commerical herbal formulas, they use quick machine processing. I make a batch and when it runs out, I may say call back next year! It takes time to make a good herbal formula, the machine made stuff should be in another class all together.
I like Blessed Herbs, Monterray Bay, Ameriherb, etc., there are hundreds to choose from. If you can't buy wholesale, they are all pretty much alike, just ask for American grown herbs organic!
You must remember, commercial dried herbs are 90% weaker than fresh herbs and normally the liquid herbs are the strongest.
The high alcohol versions do work well! Children do not like them and I like to make something my kids like. The more potent herbal formulas I do leave high alcohol. You do not see commercial made high alcohol formulas in health food store much anymore! They use the cheapest methods they can, I advise you make your own or buy from an herbalist. Most herbalist have you sign a disclaimer. Naturally, big brother does not like high alcohol formulas either, so they are not too common today!
In ancient times there was a book explaining a herbal tincture is not ready until it has set for over 12 years, I tend to agree with this! The older the herb, the more potent the reaction. Dr. Christopher sampled a tincture that was 100 years old and stated it gave the best "KICK" he had ever experienced.
I have found out many times the hard way, I take something that purges too many toxins from my body too fast and I may be sick for a few days as a result and I am sure many people have died from just such self-experimenting with things that they did not know enough about. Luckily most of the herbs are well known for their good or bad values and that doesn't happen too often today's world, if it does, the FDA is glad to let the world know!
If your bowels are working properly and you still get ill when you take herbs to enable the body to get rid of parasites, fungus, etc. to me this is a sign that you have allot of mucus or acid accumulations and your blood can not tolerate another drop of toxins and you go ill when you try.
David Christopher has given my phone number to people who call him up with severe parasite problems, He knows that is what I specialize in, he does not, most herbalist don't have a clue about parasites.
I use herbs because I spent so many years learning herbs, otherwise you can restore your body with out them. I prefer herbs to the enema, etc, so that is why I use them, but the facts remain, everything but the deworming can be done by obeying nature's ways, the MDs proved it many thousands of times.
I believe in the use of herbs and will experiment with them the rest of my life, but I know they only supplement my not perfect diet. The stronger ones can greatly influence my system, but that doesn't need to be done unless I ate wrong and accumulated undigested no-human foods in the first place.
You see, Dr. John R. Christopher from what I was told, was in a coma for 1 year and all the famous herbalist in the world could not put Dr. John back to gather again! WHY, HERBS are not the answer! Dr. John wrote, you either eat mucusless free, OR my herbs will not work, John knew, herbs can not counter the diet.
When ever in doubt [about the safety of an herb] look in the Blue Medical desk referance manual for herbs, it is a German Book originally and sold in the USA for about $75. It lists all known or common used herbs for health and tells you the chemicals and if their is a warning.
just call the adult tea; Adult Tea!
This tea can be simple or as complicated as the Longevity Daytime Formula of over 100+ herbs. I also used Natural herbal & bee sweeteners, but some may like to add more natural sweetener based on how diluted they want to make the tea.
Both formulas can be drank cold, warm, or hot! They don't really need refrigeration, because when you get the product, you use it until gone! To buy products and let them set is of no value and I can't tell you how many people make a practice of buying herbs and letting them set for years. Once made into tea, they can set in a thermos bottle all day, but otherwise should be drank.
I alternate drinking teas and juices. I will drink the Adult Tea when no juices are on hand. I then will switch to juices when available and when the juice is out, switch back to the Adult Tea. The same for the children. Fruit/Berry juices are first and the herbal teas as a substitute. This method keeps the taste of the herbal tea welcome, the liver is usually telling the brain that it needs the herbal teas after several days of doing with out and the taste is quite welcome.
The air restore may be the best formula I have, I use it daily. I know of nothing else that keeps the lungs open.
little better method is to use a 50/50 mixture of real good lobelia and good mullein. These 2 together are almost a miracle in my mind. I take 1 dropper per morning 5 mornings per week and and intend on doing so for life. As a powerful treatment the Amish clinic administers 1 dropper per hour every waking hour and this is way too powerful for the self-experimenter as it will bring up and out so much mucus from the lungs you may be overwhelemed! Dr. John R. Christopher used these herbs in large dose like this to cure advanced asthma in 1 day. He would use a 5 gallon bucket and literally pull the mucus from the lungs and fill the bucket and people that had slept in chairs most of their life would be cured in one treatment. The large dose causes the lungs to throw up just like the stomach does and strict instructions must be followed and medical aid and helpers as this is dramatic advanced methods.
So what i have found out, is to just take 1 dropper daily and this is enough! This allows the lungs to spit out chunks of mucus every day with ease! Not a lot, just a daily thing that keeps the lungs clean.
For smoking, you take that dropper or 1/2 dropper every time you want a smoke and if you take too much, you throw up, your supposed to! Your mind gets satisfied from the plant chemicals and trained to stop smoking at the same time.
I would suggest the 21 day orange juice fast and along with this take 1 dropper of the Lobelia/Mullein daily and after 21 days you should be habit free.
I myself want to take this formula for life, I know of nothing else that keeps the lungs open. The history of lobelia comes from England, the country of wet fog and lung problems.
In the USA Lobelia not liked by the FDA and good quality is hard to come by commerically. I grow my own and mullein is a common weed you can't get rid of if you wanted in our area.
I call this formula Air Restore for lack of a better name. This would be considered a fairly advanced herbal formula that a person should understand the herbs well before deciding to take them the rest of their lives. In Dr. Christopher's large master herbalist book (SNH) ($49.95) he devotes more pages to lobeila than all the other herbs. He states it is the thinking herb or director of the other herbs and best used in combination with others.
We are not scared of it and if our kids start getting the Croup or some call it Grip, I reach for the Lobelia/Mullein and start with droppers and also pour it on a rag and wrap around the outside of the neck, this is also used to shrink tonsils, etc. and used on all gland problems and more.
You can learn so much in Christopher's old herbal book, it is a huge hard back and the only herb book ever needed, it gives all his formulas and tells how to make them and use them.
Ingredients: Lobelia, Mullein
The BAREFOOT Herbalist perfected this formula for himself.
stronger Air Restore, fortified with Pure Oregano Oil. Not suitable for those that reject a little heat in the mouth.
Ingredients: Lobelia, Mullein, Pure Wild Oregano Oil
nother God given formula is the greatest anti-cancer formula ever used in the USA. Hoxey, Sitting Bull, and John R. Christopher all 3 were using it without knowing the other was. Later all 3 aknowleged the formula was a result of prayer being answered.
hristopher's anti-plague formula was an answer to such a prayer and one of the best herbal formulas of all times. Dr. Christopher said every adult person should have 5 gallons stored at the home and pray that you never need it, but when you do need it, there is no time to make it. We use this anti-plague as our number 1 medicine for our children, safe to give at a very young age and works like magic. It removes the mucus from the lungs and saves the life. I also make a formula called Herbal Maximum Restore which is based on the anti-plague formula only super charged, this formula is too strong tasting for children and more for an adult that has allowed chronic disease to set in.
Ingredients: Fresh Garlic Juice, Apple Cider Vinegar, Honey, Fresh Comfrey Root, Wormwood , Lobelia, Marshmallow Root, Oak Bark, Black-Walnut Bark, Mullein Leaves, Skullcap and Uva Ursi in a base of pure vegetable glycerine.
The blood stream is life itself, and it is our job to keep it clean and pure so that we can have a good circulatory system for delivering food to the body properly, and, in addition, to carry off the waste materials.
his formula helps promote a healthy and clean blood stream. The blood stream is life itself, and it is our job to keep it clean and pure so that we can have a good circulatory system for delivering food to the body properly, and, in addition, to carry off the waste materials. This herbal blood re-builder is made up of herbs that are cleansers, herbs that give astringency, others aid in removing cholesterol, kill infection, and build elasticity in the veins and strengthen the vein and artery walls.
Ingredients: Red Clover Blossoms, Chaparral, Licrice Root, Poke Root, Peach Bark, Oregon Grape Root, Stillingia, Cascara Sagrada, Sarsaparilla, Prickly Ash Bark, Burdock Root, Buckthorn Bark
ee Power is a formula of skillfully blended herbs designed to help sustain the body with strength, energy and vitality. This formula helps to stimulate whole body balance rather than stimulate and burn out the body’s systems. Thus, when this formula helps to stimulate it also helps to combat stress and anxiety.
Ingredients Siberian Ginseng, Bee Pollen, Licorice root, Gotu kola, Brigham tea, Yerbe mate and Ginger root
lso known as boneknit [comfrey] and many other names. When you're busted up inside, this herb can enable the liver to rebuild the bones and tissues. Christopher's formula was called Bone/Flesh/Cartlidge. BFC for short.
Bone/Flesh/Cartilage Tea is the most beneficial tea I can imagine and I make it to the original formula with a little added Olive leaf.
BF&C has been used historically by natural healers and many herbalists to help regenerate healthy skin and connective tissue, healthy bones, healthy teeth & gums, healthy hair, skin and nails.
The bulk forms are user friendly to make fomentations (both cut & powder), poltices (both cut & powder), teas (water infusion) (cut is preferred although both may be used), home encapsulating (powdered form is best), etc.
Ingredients: Gravel Root, Marshmallow Root, Mullein Leaves, Lobelia Herb, Wormwood Herb, Skullcap Herb, Black-Walnut Bark, Comfrey Root, and Olive Leaf
make a product I called bottom of the barrel, for lack of a good name, one pastor use to call it Lazaras Solution, it has been known to raise a near dead cat, near dead dog and several near dead humans as well as horses back to their feet or even out of coma. The main reason I think it works is because it is old and supplies just about any chemical the liver may need as well it has allot of ginseng and cayenne in it, enough to wake the dead! I have several old men swear by it and ask for it about once per year, they claim they can do cross word puzzles with its use where otherwise they couldn't.
o after selling these 2 herbs [Vitalerbs & Olive Leaf Powder] separate and after Dr. Christopher's went out of business and we had to make all our own formulas, we chose to combine these into 1 capsule, thus this was our "Solution" to take one capsule product instead of two.
Old age itself is brought about by a gradual hardening of the whole structural system through deposition of calcium compounds that are insoluble and inorganic.
he Calc tea formula [from Dr. Chrisopher] we call Calcium balance. I make my own calcium formula from the plants I pick, they would all be wild crafted the formula we call Calcium balance.
There is no element that is less understood and more ignorantly applied than calcium and its compounds. Calcium is the great builder of the structural parts of the body, not only of the bones and ligaments, but the walls of the arteries, the heart, the walls of the veins, the teeth, the epithelial and connective tissues. It is also an integral and necessary element in both blood and lymph. We know that many malnutritional diseases, such as rickets, and cretinism (though of course there are other causes) are usually the results of a deficiency of calcium.
At the same time, we know that excess of calcium is responsible for arteriosclerosis, (or hardening of the arteries), also for scleroma (or sclerosis of tissue, liver, skin, eyes and so forth). In fact, we know that old age itself is brought about by a gradual hardening of the whole structural system through deposition of calcium compounds that are insoluble and inorganic.
Green and leafy vegetables contain calcium chloride, as do many berries and herbs. Organic calcium chloride is found in red clover, wheat bran, rhubarb, yellow dock, watercress, blue vervain, motherwort, cactus, hawthorn berries, comfrey root, marshmallow, and many others.
It is as though the good Lord knew that millions of us would suffer with some heart trouble, and so made the remedy easily available. Calcium chloride is a great heart tonic.
A prospective mother is carrying the fetus in her womb. If she does not have enough calcium in her body to supply the baby, as well as herself, she is in trouble. The baby, by nature, will get first choice and will draw from the mother's body any calcium it can get for its' own survival. The fetus draws from the veins, arteries, muscles, teeth and bones of the mother. This is the reason for so much varicosity and loss of teeth during pregnancy.
Lobelia: Contains potassium, sodium, iron, phosphorus and calcium.
In these four herbs, which work together so well, you will notice they are all high in calcium, high in potassium and have all the other minerals needed in the construction of bone--all accentuated with allantoin from the comfrey leaf for the speeding of cell proliferation.
1. Tooth Grows Back: My oldest daughter age 13 now, had a dental cavity at age 7 (the only dental cavity among our six children). We had the cavity drilled out and a filling put in by our local dentist. Two years later, the filling came out and a hole was left in her tooth. Nothing more was done about it except the herbal calcium formula [Calc Tea] that you recommend in your book, School of Natural Healing, made up of: comfrey, horsetail, oatstraw, and lobelia. This combination of herbs has been used very consistently by the entire family over the last two years. We have recently discovered that the hole where the filling was is now completely grown over and is absolutely unnoticeable even under close inspection.
I use the finest hand produced products I can get and travel many miles to obtain them in small portions, but see this as worth it.
I will warn you it taste GREAT and you must limit the amount each time, or your children may crave and take it all.
his is another formula I have kicked around for years. I was searching for a method for my children to supply their bodies with the essential minerals needed to build strong bodies. I have settled with this formula.
It is made with concentrated plant and tree syrups hand made by people I know and I can see the health in their children. These syrups have not had the lime salts filtered out like commercial products would have and lime salts are what I was looking for.
This product has the best Natural plant and tree minerals/sugars which are essential for health.
You must realize "IF" we lived as intended on "REAL RAW HUMAN FOODS" picked from the trees and bushes as we ate them, there would be no need for the supplements and as a result, much effort is needed and we can never duplicate or better Nature.
I like to put the child's picture on the bottle and that way I can see how much each child is consuming, I let them be the judge on how much. I will warn you it taste GREAT and you must limit the amount each time, or they may crave and take it all.
Naturally this also makes a great adult mineral and sugars product. I use the finest hand produced products I can get and travel many miles to obtain them in small portions, but see this as worth it.
Ingredients: Concentrated Plant and Tree Minerals, 10% Olive Leaf Tincture, Wild Oregano Oil
parasites love healthy flesh...healthy flesh may keep out parasites, but once you already have them, they are not moving out, you have to EVICT them!"
make my own and in seminars I suggest people learn how to make their own. A Dr. Clark book is your starting point, her formula is as good or better than most. Naturally everyone believes their formula to be the best and I am no exception, if I knew a better way I would do it, I depend on it to be the best for my kids.
It started from day one based on Dr. Clark's info. I always made it as a liquid combination
I then read Dr. Clarks first HIV book, I had to experiment with Olive Leaf after that and I then added Olive leaf to my dewormer. I then added pumpkin seed on my own, because most herbalist/people know kids do well on pumpkin seeds for pin worms, etc. So I had what I just called a 5 herb mix and even one company in England follwed suit and make a 5 herb mix based on my 5 herbs I chose, but most settled on the top 3, walnut, clove, and Wormwood and you can find that mixture many places, or at least you use to, I haven't surfed the net for sometime, I am out of touch so to speak with whats going on in the commercial market.
Then Dr. Clark's info on oregano oil as well as Dr. Cass Ingram's books on the subject sparked as much interest as Olive Leaf did and then I turned my Amish clinic buddies onto oregano oil and their experimentations turned out fantastic works and in no time my dewormer included oregano oil, the pure stuff.
Christopher Hobbs is the best man on the earth for herbal information, just ask Schulze or David Christopher, they are all part of The School of Natural Healing and the result of Dr. John R. Christopher's mentoring. I asked Dr. Hobbs his opinion about green hull walnut and He promptly sent me 5 or so pages from a German Science book dating 1950 and it explained everything you could ever imagine and then some about the Black-Walnut tree and low and behold, the green hull of the mature walnut is not a dewormwer at all, it is a source of potassium and organic potassium we all know is the basic reason for all diseases, especially cancer.
I prefer a combination of Black walnut male bud, green hull, & bud, Olive Leaf, Clove, Wormwood, Pumpkin seed, Oregano Hydroxy, in a tincture/syrup mixture. There is a reason for each ingredient, right down to the syrup to fool the worm!!!!! parasites LOVE SUGAR!
Oh yes, no one uses Black Walnut Male Buds, they are available a few days per year and then not always easy to find or pick. If you want the best, you read the research and this normally takes you to german books and then you set your goals on doing it the best you can, in other words, you'll have a problem finding the good stuff in a market that is driven by profits. Make your own, or buy the best, many times the best is the cheapest, because it is low volume!
Take this once per week to maintain wormfree. People that are nearly dead take 1 quart in 1 week. During a liver flush, you take 1 tablespoon morning and night for 30 days. Few people realize you HAVE to deworm for 30 days straight if you even begin to have a chance of killing the eggs as they hatch.
I truly believe a person should be mostly wormfree within 30 days, except the brain and pancreas, I keep hearing stories of parasite problems lasting a long time after liver flushing.
People ask me all the time for my parasite formula, I tell them to set down with a Dr. Clark book and use a little math and make your own formula and you will like something you made better than copying mine! I also use a few extra herbs, etc. and make my formulas in a way I don't believe anyone else does that I am aware of. I am Dr. Christopher trained, but after fasting for 40 days, I took another method that just came to me one day and I have stuck with it.
Many answers to many questions may be answered the more you clean the mud out of the body.
You mentioned male fern, that is a powerful herb, one I wouldn't use. You need an herbal mixture than you don't mind and that parasites suck up like candy. You see, most people make bitter nasty tasting high alcohol dewormer, one the kids hate! Real herbalist tries to not make nasty tasting stuff.
My desire was to make the best herbal parasite killer I could and that gets pretty complicated, I use the male bud of the walnut tree, I don't think you will find anyone doing this, I don't really think you will find anyone with the interest in deworming that I do, I will go to great lengths to make what I see as the best and when I say the best, I mean in many ways, it has to taste Ok and attract parasites, as well as empower the liver to produce the army.
There has always been one secret in the herbal world, it is called dosage, no one in their right mind wants to give you the correct doseage, because that is practicing medicne, or is it?
Self-Applied Prevention is experimental and everyone has the right. Schulze is associated with this chat line and no one promotes dose more than He does.
People would fall over if they hear the doses Dr. John R. Christopher gave people to rebuild broken bones or destroyed tissues of all kinds, etc. If your using a good herbal dewormer and not getting the worms out quick, something is wrong and normally that is the dosages, because the product cost too much!
A person needs 1 quart for 30 days and 1 quart per year after that (shouldn't cost more than about $80 per quart) and a daily use of oregano oil and olive leaf.
A good 5-8 herb dewormer take 1 tablespoon day and night for 5 days along with the kidney cleanse and lower bowel balance capsules, then do a Clark flush, continue the herbs and in 5 days do another flush, if your not looking at your flush, then do another in 5 days, your now as clean as your going to get with your gallbladder method, depending on your method, depends on your success or the lack of it. Anyway, continue the dewormer doseage for 30 days, you are now as clean as that dewormer is going to get you. Now take 1 tablespoon weekly for the rest of your life.
Now you need daily maintanence. Parasites take no break, you eat, drink, and breathe them all day every day! I take Olive Leaf and oregano Oil daily in either formulas or foods/water, etc. it just takes a little. You make your tissues a no trespassing neighborhood.
Taking herbs for parasite control is a weekly event the rest of your life in my uneducated non medical opinion. I take 1 tablespoon weekly and anytime I feel the need. This amounts to 1 quart per year on average.
This lady suffered from 2 things, she was born a no sweating person, which lead her into lung problems. When you can't sweat, your lungs act like a dogs, you pant, so to speak.
This problem loaded her lungs with mucus and she was allergic to everything! You name it and it made her sick. She naturally had spent thousands with the MDs and all their worthless test and treatments.
She did our version of the Clark Liver Flush with all the right preps. I always see an assortment of worms, but not with her, she had buckets of pin worms and not other worms was noticable.
She did about 5 really good flushes and after the 3rd flush, the worms were pretty well gone. Her lung problems went away, I won't say the disease she had for the past 15 years, because it starts with a T and the AMA would have a wholly cow if someone told you that pin worms, etc. had anything to do with this disease.
I then watched this girl sit down and eat cheese, ice cream, and all the nasty stuff that she had not been able to eat for years and she had zero reactions and felt like she had a new life!
The rest of this story is all too common, she found her cure and she ignored the follow ups, now 3 years later, she is in no better shape. She never married and in her 30's and her life was her health complaints, I can't begin to tell you how many people really do not want to live healthy, they dwell on being sick and spending their lives talking to other sick people.
I am sure the girl is loaded with worms once again, you don't stay wormfree by doing a few cleanses and then stopping!
You need to be clean and then take 1 tablespoon of the good stuff weekly and decide what method of Olive Leaf and Oregano Oil you want to consume daily 6 days per week and then parasites will never make your body a home again. it is so cheap, under $100 per year. You need 1 quart of dewormer, 1 bottle of oregano oil and your choice of the many methods of taking Olive Leaf.
The only way to have health benefits is to not feed worms. To just kill them creates more food for the eggs hatching out thousands every day.
Ingredients: Male bud, immature green hull and young twig of the black walnut tree, Olive Leaf and root bark, Clove, Pumpkin seed, Wormwood, Glycerin/alcohol, Wild oregano oil
or over 100 years, all scientific studies have declared garlic to obtain every known vitamin with the exception of Vitamin D. I consider all synthetic vitamins poisons. The only true vitamins may be only obtainable when eating a fresh picked food within 7 minutes of picking it. Actually the food starts to die the second it is disconnected from the mother plant and connection to the earth and in reality there may actually be no such thing as "VITAMINS" as most people are lead to believe. That the action may be a reaction to a mineral in the food product. At any point, garlic is KING.
Many people will not consume real garlic because of the smell. The truth is, the odor smelled is the human waste being removed by the power the garlic gave the liver to do so. Once clean, a person can consume all the fresh garlic they wish and smell nothing on the skin or breath the next day. So garlic gets a bad rap for doing such a great service to mankind.
I raise my garlic in ground that had never been farmed or fertilized. I apply a formula to restore the soil, I call "RESTORE". This has iodine, selenium, and all the minerals as well as herbs to repel the pest. It works very well and is my method to grow my foods and make my foods my medicines.
Also I obtained my garlic from a man that raised it organically for the past 40 years. I then searched the books for the best formula and came up with the Dr. Schook formula that uses herbs to avoid the garlic odors associated by the typical person. I naturally added Olive Leaf and Wild Oregano Hydrosol, which you will soon learn I add these to everything I make for myself.
I feel this is a top product and take pride in it. I made it for my all purpose natural Vitamins, if their really is such a thing that can be put into a bottle.
Garlic has saved more lives than all the other herbs put together in world history.
or the kids and myself, I have been experimenting with an all purpose herbal tea. This would be for when fresh fruit/berry juices are not on hand and you don't have a fresh pot of herbal tea brewing. I believe our only "True" liquid is the pure juice from fresh picked fruits/berries. All bottled/packaged liquids are bad for health, especially children's health and not to be considered. Home made distilled water being the next option to live juices, is best made into fruit/berry juices and then option 3 is herbal teas.
Everyone has their own preferred taste and it is difficult to convince someone/everyone to drink a herbal tea. The adult "SHOULD" accept an herbal tea when enough self-experimentation has proven to the brain that the herbs in the tea are needed and good for the body. Small children are normally much easier to deal with. If the child is uncorrupted on pop and sweetened drinks of all kinds with POISONED coloring and taste enhancers , they will readily take to herbal teas.
A mother should put baby on Red Raspberry tea when congested and milk removed until the mucus is out of the lungs, this has shown the baby that natural herbal tea is a food and these children also take right to herbal teas.
Once corrupted on "junk" drinks, the child and adult alike will be stubborn and make excuses why they will not drink this herbal tea, or anything good for that matter. These people will need habit change and education or they will not succeed in the use of Natural Foods.
I make 2 types of concentrated herbal teas, one for children and one for adults. The Children's tea is kept simple and no stimulating herbs used. We prefer the taste of Peppermint to the taste of herbal mixed teas. Peppermint is an excellent herb and my choice for now for this product.
I call the children's tea; "Growing Like a Weed" Part A
It is self-sweetened with natural concentrated sugars/minerals with the hint of Peppermint.
ust as the entire body must be treated as a whole in restoring health, also must the entire herbal plant be used (extracted). When grazing animals (and humans) eat whole plants, the water and alcohol soluble, as well as the plant's fats are being consumed and this must be so! Animals make "FAT" from grazing on organic plant "FATS"!
Animals that have short digestive tracts and meat eating teeth can get along with eating other animals "FAT", but most meat eaters when ill, seek out grass/herbs to eat for their medicines. Humans can eat animal "FAT", but this is second hand "FAT" and full of animal acid waste and nothing in comparison to plant "FAT" in quality and health.
Plant "FAT" is a MUST for complete health and part B of this formula! It restores many failing body functions. (This is basically Longevity P.M.)
Children need a teaspoon daily and adults a tablespoon daily.
The secret to his formula is the well-established combined action of cayenne, garlic and hawthorn berry & their beneficial effect on the heart and circulatory system.
Many thousands of people worldwide claim that the heart drops work.
aster Herbalists Jim and Peter Strauss ( http://www.straussheartdrops.com ) have been a thorn in the side of Canadian health authorities for years. Most active herbalists in North America are familiar with the escapades of the Strauss herbal family. The medical authorities have been trying to crucify them for years -- or at least wipe out their multi-million dollar operation, built largely around their one core product. They have repeatedly failed, (including a highly publicized trial where they failed to convict the Strauss's for practicing medicine without a license). They have failed for basically one reason: many thousands of people worldwide claim that the heart drops work.
One of the greatest herbs of all for rebuilding the heart and venous system is the hawthorn berry. As far back as Biblical days the hawthorn berry has been known and used.
When I [Dr. John Christopher] graduated from the Dominion Herbal College in Vancouver, British Columbia, Dr. Nowell made me a present. It is one of the most valuable presents I have ever received. It was the formula for a Hawthorn Berry Heart Syrup that had been given to him by an old English teacher. The man who had given the formula to Dr. Nowell had used it in his practice for over forty years. As he gave it to me Dr. Nowell told me that he had used it in his own practice for about forty years with phenomenal success. He gave it to me in 1946 and I have also used it with great success since that time. This formula does not have to be refrigerated and will keep for years at household temperature. The dosage of this tonic is one half teaspoonful three times a day or more if desired. One half teaspoonful three times per day, however, is adequate for an adult sized heart.
The ingredients in the "heart drops" are not proprietary, and the formula contains nutraceuticals that have been well-founded as preventative in nature in numerous scientific journals.
That the formula is "heart-healthy" is well-founded.
In fact, there are several respected herbalists in the U.S. who privately make their own brew - some of them with testimonials as equally respectable as those of the Strauss'.
September 2, 2003
Subject: "Facts are facts"
Just a note about your Heart Drops. I ordered some bottles for my friends and myself last week. I read the testimonials on the Strauss web site, looked over your web site and felt you were the folks I needed to be buying from. Of course I want to clear my arteries before someone tells me I need a bypass or anything like that, but I did note among the Strauss testimonials that some were getting help with enlarged prostrate glands. I am 58 years old and the artery cleansing was my primary goal, but I have had a wonderful surprise since beginning the Heart Drops. Over the past few years I have noticed the force of my urination steadily decreasing and over the last few months I have been getting a little concerned about it because, even with no pain involved, it was taking quite a while to urinate. Two days after, not two weeks or two months I have experienced a radical improvement in urination. There is absolutely nothing else to attribute this improvement to other than your Heart Drops.
Charles T. Smith
P.S. --- If you want to print this testimonial with my name go right ahead. I would tell anyone else what I am telling you. Facts are facts.
My wife and kids all tried it tonight and loved it, it is a peppermint flavor. The kids liked the idea of zero water, no rinsing. Just open the mouth and sprinkle some powder on your tongue and then brush.
he true method is to correct diet and have clean healthy blood. The "Herbal Tooth and Gum Restore" is an herbal powder that replaces tooth paste and was developed by Dr. John R. Christopher many years ago as a way to restore the gums and teeth. He had many case histories or people growing a 3rd set of teeth when his protocol was followed.
This herbal food combination consists of Oak bark, Comfrey root, Horsetail grass, Lobelia, Cloves and Peppermint. This formula has been used historically to help strengthen the gums (bleeding and pyorrhea-type infections of the gums), and assist in tightening loose teeth. This type of tooth powder will brighten tooth luster and make for a healthier mouth. For severe cases place this powder formula between the lips and gums (upper and lower) around the entire tooth area and leave on all night, six nights a week (as well as brush regularly), allow these high in natural calcium herbs feed your teeth and see what happens. Then continue on with regular brushing with this herbal combination.
My wife and kids all tried it tonight and loved it, it is a peppermint flavor. The kids liked the idea of zero water, no rinsing. Just open the mouth and sprinkle some powder on your tongue and then brush or in our case, we just use our tongue to spread it over our gums.
The old herbalist tooth powder is the best method to apply direct to the teeth and you never spit this out like the poison tooth paste from the store. The tooth powder not only works directly on the teeth, but also supplies the blood stream with badly needed organic plant calcium.
THe tooth powder are herbs dr. Christopher suggested many years ago. You can take a wet tooth brush and dip into some powder on a dish, the child needs no water, you swallow the herbs when done, no rinsing.
I also have made it into a paste using a rare Amish Sorgum Molasses. It is working so far, but it is hard to handle and put into a squeese tube! it took some time to just make enough fo4 4 tubes.
The powder is $6.95 and the paste is $12.95. The paste is actually very cheap when compared to the standard price for the herbs that it takes to make it, but people are so used to paying very little for tooth paste, so $12.95 sounds like a very high price. I would never make anything to use on the body that I couldn't eat and that goes for tooth paste and soap.
Will we grow a new set of teeth? I have no idea, I have Dr. Christopher video saying it happened many times.
Ingredients: Oak Bark, Comfrey Root, Horsetail Grass, Lobelia, Cloves, Peppermint
TRADITIONAL AILMENTS TREATED:
BAD BREATH, DENTAL DISEASE, GUM DISEASE, HALITOSIS, PERIDONTAL DISEASE, PYORRHEA, TEETH HEALTH.
This is one of Dr. Christopher’s most famous formulas. It has been used historically for hormone imbalance. Changease is rich with phyto-sterols, which are plant hormones. The body then takes these phyto-sterols and changes them into human hormones via the liver only upon the body’s need. This formula is popular amongst those experiencing hormone imbalance of any kind, menopause, PMS, etc. This formula is safe and time tested for both females and males.
Your solution is education into Nature and the art of herbs. Dr. Christopher's womans book is your starting point in my opinion. The herbal formula you need the rest of your life is made by many companies. It cost 3X to make compared to last year. For these reasons I doubt if anyone makes it like the original formula was made. I call my version Hormone Balance, I take 2 every day and according to Dr. Christopher male and female need this after age 40. Even 40 years ago, he stated that all females, even teenagers need it if they have any problem.
Ingredients: Black Cohosh root, Sarsaparilla Root, American Ginseng Root, Licorice Root, False Unicorn Root, Blessed Thistle herb, Squaw vine Herb, Olive Leaf.
hen you go to clean up a damaged body, the Immune System will start to remove everything that is not human and this can be quite painful if not deadly to some! Dr. Christopher made a herbal formula to keep control of the Immune System he called Immune Calm. It is used to slow the Immune System down so it won't attack the cells too fast.
The Lower Bowel Balance is strongest in powder capasules, I also make it in a syrup, but this is more for kids and does not have the cascara sagrada in it, so it is much more mild. Christopher called it Kid-E-Reg.
"There are many herbs that are used for cleansing the 2 million cells of each kidney."
here are many herbs that are used for cleansing the 2 million cells of each kidney. Many just make you urinate a lot, these may not be too good if your full of calcium, etc.
When I read Dr. Clark's books and seen her kidney cleanse herb formula, I then looked at Dr. Chritopher's kidney formulas and they were pretty close, Christopher's being a little stronger. So I made Dr. Clark's formula in a formula, not a tea as she suggests. The version I made in a 8 ounce bottle is quite potent even taste wise too, when taken 1 tsp, at bedtime, 6 days per week for 6 weeks, one bottle works perfect. It also has had many amazing results, everything from spurs dissolving to peeing of burning sand etc.
Dr. Clark made a lot of herbs noted once again, you will notice that most formulas have similiar herbs. The reason some work and some don't usually is based on the doseage and if the herbs were any good in the first place. I prefer to make it the easist and best tasteing if possible.
If people are poor, I tell them to just make parsley tea.
tinctured parsley, hydrangea root, gravel root, marshmallow root, ginger root, uva ursi, black cherry
When the liver does not function properly, the bile does not excrete freely into the intestinal tract, and so it passes off into the blood stream and throughout the rest of the system, causing a toxic condition called cholemia.
his formula can greatly increase the vitality of the body. To speed up the blood purifying process, it is good to have a clean liver and gall bladder area. When the liver does not function properly, the bile does not excrete freely into the intestinal tract, and so it passes off into the blood stream and throughout the rest of the system, causing a toxic condition called cholemia, causing indigestion, sluggishness, fatigue, constipation, upset stomach, chills, vomiting and fever.
Ingredients: Wild Yam, Cramp Bark, Fennel Seed, Ginger, Catnip, Peppermint, Olive Leaf, Wild Oregano Oil
It amounts to the amount of Epsom Salts suggested by Dr. Clark. It has the herbs suggested by Dr. Clark to relax the liver and allow more stones to come out, it is also a syrup, so it taste better than plain Epsom Salts and water.
I made an Epsom Salts formula with herbs based upon Dr. Clark's advanced cancer book. I modified it to taste better and easier to take as well as made the entire thing into a simple kit for the Amish to do so they wouldn't have to venture to town and find Olive oil, etc. There are tricks that come with experince. People call us up and ask step by step questions their 1st time and we learned alot by learning from others mistakes. We know how to keep it down, etc. There is nothing worse than puking your 1st liver flush!!!!!!!!!!!
This was made for the Amish who do not normally have Epsom Salts in their homes. It amounts to the amount of Epsom Salts suggested by Dr. Clark. It has the herbs suggested by Dr. Clark to relax the liver and allow more stones to come out, it is also a syrup, so it taste better than plain Epsom Salts and water. I do not suggest its use over the plain Epsom Salts. It is no better and surely more expensive, I made it only because I got tired of people refusing the Liver Flush based on the taste of Epsom Salts.
Note: This kit does not come with any grapefruit juice. You'll need to purchase some grapefruits or juice for your flushes.
Each kit contains enough supplies for 2 liver/gallbladder flushes.
R&R - Each bottle provides enough for four equal doses. Just replace the Epsom Salt mixture in the Clark recipe with 1/4 bottle of R&R.
Oil Mixture - Mix the entire bottle with grapefruit juice, shake or stir well and drink just before going to bed the evening of the flush.
Ingredients: First Cold Pressed Olive Oil, Wild Oregano Oil
his has been my pet project for years! I have changed the formulas and the names yearly. I have settled on the names: Longevity - A.M, Daytime, & P.M.
The A.M. is taken upon rising, it is made ¼ of the 8 herb de-worming formula, ¼ kidney cleanse type herbs, ¼ Heavy Metal removing type herbs, and ¼ Christopher's Hormone Balance type herbs. It is my all purpose formula. This is taken when you wake up on an empty stomach.
The Daytime is a mixture of well over 100+ herbal liquids made from fresh picked herbs in their season, many different concentrated plant and tree minerals, natural land and ocean mineral salts, etc. The idea being that hopefully whatever Natural chemical the liver may need may be supplied within these herbs and minerals. It is what is called a "Shot Gun" mix of herbs. I designed it to enable me to stay alkaline. It is taken in the afternoon. If you use pH paper, you will know how muuch you need according to your urine pH or just take an equal amount of each bottle each day, there are no set dosages.
The P.M. is a mixture of plant oils. Most all plants have water-soluble and oil nutrients that when concentrated become syrups that are sometimes very sweet or the oils thicken. Some plants are higher in oils. The main purpose of this formula is to obtain Phosphorus. This keeps the liver clean and the brain and tissues fed with the nutrients only found in plant fats.
I make a mixture of Olive Oil, Lecithin oil and a few other plant oils for my mix. 1 tablespoon nightly does wonders and your also done with all future Liver Flushes as long as you start with a clean liver.
Suggested dosage of all 3 formulas is approx. 1 tablespoon daily. The P.M. can be taken @ bedtime, the A.M. upon rising out of bed and the Daytime spread out 1tsp. per dose, with each meal or just 1 tablespoon during the day sometime.
I prefer to just drink from the bottle and see to it that all 3 bottles go down at the same rate. It really doesn't matter too much when you consume these Nutrients, the idea is to only give the liver plenty to choose from.
The Longevity formula is something I have messed with for 15 years. The daytime formula is changed a little each time I learn something new. This is not a popular item, it would scare anyone that does not self experiment with herbs, I sell very little of it, but those that have tried it come back, so I left it in my 2005 price list.
I suggest you take an equal amount from each bottle. The normal dosage may be 1 tablespoon. It can be a tsp. or by the dropper depending on what a person can afford or their needs. I sell it as a kit for $59.95 3/16 ounce bottles. I have one person that resells this kit for $74.95 per bottle.
It is just something that is my pet prodject what the results will be only time will tell. If you compare my few products to those that Dr. Shulze sells, Dr. Clark, etc. sell, you will see my products are super cheap, but I make my products 1 jar at a time and the famous herbalist/nutritionalist that demand huge money for their name on a bottle, most likly never touch the product and use commercial herbs, while I grow my own and hand pick and use the same hour. Naturally it is my hobby and not my living, so I can do such things. I main thing you need to remember, no herbal formula will make you well, education is the key, herbs just supply nutrients.
This is why the Lower Bowel Formula is so beneficial, because it is not a crutch. It cleans the liver, the gallbladder, starts the bowel flowing and stimulates the peristaltic muscles to begin working and kneading out waste. You can take colonics, irrigations, enemas, or herbal laxatives until they are running out your ears, but as long as the peristaltic muscles are not functioning, no permanenet healing can be accomplished. So remember, as long as you have a polluted and congested bowel, you are getting only about ten percent of your food value, and your body degenerates as long as this persists.
-Dr. John Christopher
r. John R. Christopher perfected an eighteen hundred's formula from Germany, that he got from Arnold Ehret. Dr. Christopher changed this formula many times over his life and it is one of the best herbal formuals of all time. Sadly the FDA doesn't like all the ingredients today and you may not find the original formula sold commercially. on the other hand, it is still being made for private use by people who accept the use of herbs as experimental. This is the only herbal formula I reccomend.
The intestinal organs must work well to be in god health. They need their muscle tone at all times in life. An herbal formula was put together in the 1800's and later perfected by Dr. John R. Christopher during 50 years of practice.
As there are no two people alike in age, size or physical construction (and the bowel itself will differ in persons as much as do the fingerprints), most cases will start with two #0 capsules three times a day, and then regulate the dosage from there on. If the stool seems too loose, then cut down; but if it is difficult to get a bowel movement and the stool is hard and takes much effort, then increase the amount accordingly. In order to reach the condition of a free-easy flowing movement in very difficult cases, one could take up to even 40 or more of these capsules a day, for these herbs are only FOOD and can do no damage. Then after the hard material has broken loose and is eliminating, it will gradually decrease (these are hard incrustations of fecal matter that have been "stored" in the bowel for many years that are breaking loose and soaking up intestinal liquids). Do not taper off the lower bowel tonic dosage so much at this point that you loose this advantageous momentum and continuity of elimination. In most cases, the improper diet has caused the peristaltic muscles to quit working, and it will take six to nine months with the aid of the lower bowel tonics for the average individual to clean out the fecal matter and to rebuild the bowel structure sufficiently in order to have the peristaltic muscles work entirely on their own.
The treatment for an average person last 9-12 months if the person has converted to a mucusless diet. If not, then the treatment lasts a lifetime. I have taken the formula for over 15 years. it is the most copied herbal formula of all time. I personally add a little Olive leaf to the original formula and call it Lower Bowel Balance. I know of no intestinal problem that this herbal formula does not correct in time with the education of proper foods and elimination. When you eat you should have a bowel movement in about 20 minutes, if your doing this, you are healthy as a person can become.
The herbal formula strengthens the intestinal muscles and is never addictive nor do you ever need to depend on it, it is basically just food.
Epsom Salts is a laxative. The muscles let go and it comes out!
Cascara sagrada causes contractions or better said, movement and our intestines only move in one direction (hopefully) and that is why it works. It causes the intestines to exercise and become strong.
I do not work out in anyway shape or form, yet I can smack my stomach quite hard. I can do this because I have taken the LBB for 15 years, it keeps my intestines strong and I do nothing. Dr. John R. Christopher wrote that it like going to the gym and working out while sitting on the couch watching TV, your intestines have no choice but to exercise with cascara sagrada in them.
The huge problem is, cascara sagrada will cause cramps, so all the other herbs in the formula all play a part in the smoothness of this program.
I personally can take as many as I want on an empty stomach, but beginners should only take them with their foods. Once the stomach is healed, you take as many as you want or none at all if you eat correctly.
The herbs are never needed by those that eat raw fruits and berries, but for those of us that eat a variety of foods, the herbal formula is a life savior! It is also the first step in all methods to return to health.
it is pretty well explained in my free booklet that anyone can get a free download from the Webmaster at http://www.mhdewormer.com by asking for it. I also copy Dr. John's original newsletter for this formula and send that with the herbal formula so the brain knows why it is taking this product.
With out the brain knowing why it is taking any product, it will not continue or succeed. This is why I push education before products. The more education, the less you will buy products and save your self a lot of pain and suffering.
n the world of herbs and medicines no one has "THE" cure for diseases and never will have. What they do is search the world for medicines and herbs that we can't easily obtain and give them fancy Latin names to confuse us and attempt to make us think they are smarter than we are.
Thousands of products have been used to fleece the pockets of the ill. Every year many new and exotic products are introduced and eventually replace all the old products. The old stand by herbs used for centuries have worked as well as any herb can work. Forget these fools and their exotic herbs, they are chasing a dream.
Herbs work by giving the liver nutrients (chemicals) and the liver then makes the ingredients the blood uses to regain health. Some herbs aid the body in purging mucus and acids, etc.
There are no great mysteries in health that the doctor and herbalist would have you believe. You will have learned this in the Dr. Hays book.
My ONE herbal product for general ill health is a combination of herbs used by Dr. John R. Christopher many years ago. I made his Anti-Plague formula, Kide-E-Well Formula, added the herbs I like and made it all the way I like and use this along with the Olive leaf and Oregano products to get bacteria/viruses/fungus under control keeping in mind to always keep the parasites under control with the 8 herb mixture of de-wormer herbs.
Warning, this is a super strong Garlic/herbal formula that kick starts the system into action, it is powerful tasting, but not harmful because it is natural herbs.
I personally drink 4 ounces as the first sign of trouble and that is it. The Christopher method is 1 tablespoon every hour as needed and works well.
I noticed Dr. Christopher's Anti-Plague was the best, it works on babies and adults. I eventually made it and then made it stronger. People only wanted the stronger version that I call MAXIMUM RESTORE. To me, if this product doesn't open you up, standard herbs will not be working for you! Ideally I take the Dr. Schulze type dosage of 4 ounces, next day it all comes up and out, you hack all day getting the mucus out. Lots of hot baths with plenty of herbal hit tea, such as Yarrow tea will heat the body up and liquify things.
The anti-plague of Christopher's is a complicated formula and takes a lot of time. I make it a bit better than Christopher's did, they used syrup only where I use a mixture of a syrup and a tincture of the herbs to make the shelf life much longer. Their formula had to be refrigerateed after you opened it while my method allows it to be stored on the shelf for at least 10+ years in my opinion.
I would suggest you taste it first, it is powerful to some, I suggest that when you're sick, it tastes fine and when you can taste it, your almost well and don't need anymore.
I can beef the formula up or make it as Dr. Christopher did. MY most beefed up version I call Maximum Restore and it is too strong to take unless you are sick.
To buy 5 gallons is an investment and I suggest you try it first. I do have it and can ship UPS.
Look on line for Christopher's anti-plague formula and you can easily find the ingredients. I make mine with a LITTLE olive leaf and a few drops of oregano.
It is possible the greatest formula to increase the natural functions of the body and expelling of mucus that I am aware of.
These herbal formulas do not STOP disease, they increase the cleansing of the body and quicken the process. They are not like a drug that dries up the body and surpresses the disease.
great combination of old fashioned herbs used to cleanse, build and increase circulation to the brain. This formula has been used historically to help promote improved peripheral and cerebral circulation. All the anti-aging effects of better circulation go along with this ability: increased energy, antioxidant effects, better concentration, etc.
Ingredients: Blue Vervain, Gota Kola, Ginkgo Biloba, Blessed Thistle, Cayenne, Ginger Root, Olive Leaf, Lobelia, Wild Oregano Oil
made what I call R&R that has the Epsom salts and herbs in it. This is for Amish that refuse to buy Epsom Salts and mix it in water, otherwise the $2 dollar Dr. Clark method is just as good and way cheaper.
It has the herbs suggested by Dr. Clark to relax the liver and allow more stones to come out, it is also a syrup, so it tastes better than plain Epsom Salts and water. I do not suggest its use over the plain Epsom Salts. It is no better and surely more expensive, I made it only because I got tired of people refusing the Liver Flush based on the taste of Epsom Salts.
The reason people don't sleep is they get nervous or they go very acid. That is why Clark has the person clean the kidneys and intestines first as well as kill the parasites that block the liver ducts.
Kava, Kava is great if you have the root and made your own tea, it makes you feel a little drunk with out alcohol.
Taking a long hot bath that night works well also.
I have seen nervous types start throwing up 6 hours before they ever take the first dose of Epsom Salts and blame the liver flush for their problem! The nerves can make people very ill, this is why the clean ups are so important for those that get scared when they feel ill.
Unfiltered Maple Syrup, Vegetable Glycerin, Valerian Root, Skullcap, Passion Flower, Hops, Chamomile Flower, Magnesium Sulfate, Distilled Water and Wild Oregano Hydroso
he skinners salve is a nightime salve to supply vapors to breath easier, it is a life saver for children and adults alike, but not a cure to bring the hard mucus up and out of the lungs.
This is an Amish made product. It has a lot of history behind it. For