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Re: the Ancient of Days
 
Fletch Views: 1,384
Published: 19 years ago
 
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Re: the Ancient of Days


Hi Ready2Rapture

And yes I do thing the remainer of the quote clarifies the meaning, which is that instead of ONLY referring to David it points ultimately to the Messiah, who both preceded and would follow him. The partial quote gives the reader the impression that there is no hint in the context about the eternal nature of the Messiah, which isn't true.



THE FIRST QUOTE:In riddle-like fashion this verse alludes to David, as the references to Bethlehem and to his ancient origins/activities indicate.



THE LEFT OUT QUOTE: The passage anticipates the second coming of the great king to usher in a new era of national glory for Israel. Other prophets are more direct and name this coming ideal ruler “David” (Jer 30:9; Ezek 34:23-24; 37:24-25; Hos 3:5). Of course, this prophecy of “David’s” second coming is actually fulfilled through his descendant, the Messiah, who will rule in the spirit and power of his famous ancestor and bring to realization the Davidic royal ideal in an even greater way than the historical David (see Isa 11:1, 10; Jer 33:15).


Nothing here gives the reader the impression that in the context there is a "eternal nature" of the messiah. The NET Bible disagrees with your take and is in line with mine here. I still don't know why you were so motivated to point out that I did not include the latter quote since it backs me up and refutes you.

...Who said anything about God's BEGINNING? He has no beginning or end, since he is outside of time. As you pointed out earlier, "goings forth" doesn't necessarily mean "birthplace", so no one is saying God had a beginning.



Origin is the meaning.



FROM STRONG'S:#4163(fem of 4161)a family descent;also a sewer--draught house; going forth.



#4161"Goings forth",i.e (the act)an egress, or (the place an exit; hence a source or product; spec. dawn, the rising of the sun(the East), exportation, utterance, a gate, a fountain, a mine,...



Fletch

PSThe whole Bible is God-breathed, so which particular language was originally used is irrelevant to the determination of God's eternal nature.



We still need to compare apples with apples.


 

 
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