You don't need these herbs to successfully clean out oyur liver bile ducts and gallbadder. Apple juice or malic acid are sufficient to soften the stones and prepare the liver for the flush, along with the colon cleanse. Make sure to cleanse the colon afterwards to avoid stones remaining trapped in the colon. I suggest you obtain The Amazing Liver Cleanse, www.1stbooks.com, which will give you all the necessary directions for doing these cleanses (including the kidney cleanse). It will also advice you about the proper sequence of these cleanses.