there are basics that you must stick to like hydration and nothing but distilled water, even thought there is no perceivable change. but there are many things that i am sure you have not tried yet. look into salt and vit C thereapy or maybe zappers. if you havent done a big round of CS, you really should make it and do it. when i use cs for things it works every time. oxygen is another thing. and oil. check out the oil pulling forum. look carefully into topical oils. i am telling you, there is something there that i cant quite put my finger on right now but i know in my heart it is big. really big.