Perhaps there is hope for mine! I just finished (am finishing - I think I'm pretty much done...) my first flush and it was so easy I couldn't believe it. No indigestion, slept through the night, the elimination was effective (many stones) and short-lived. If I get the olive oil capsules as well as making the ES caps I think I may just be able to bring him along. If anyone has any words of wisdom for convincing the SO I'd love to hear it!