”The dose makes the poison” Paracelsus, early 1500s Come back when you know something about toxicology!   [End]
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I have a friend at the university who is a lab tech and she is currently studying parasitology at the graduate level. She’s already completed extensive undergraduate study in parasitology as a part of her lab tech degree which included many a couple hours of lecture per week plus three hours every week for a semester gazing at slides with a microscope. Medical laboratories are regulated and inspected by multiple county, state, federal and professional agencies. Annual inspections of processes and procedures are the norm and unannounced inspections are possible. To maintain license, they ...
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6.5? 7.0? Is this the pH of your urine? Urine pH can vary widely through the day and is little indication your body’s pH.   [End]
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2009 H1N1 HOAX? Give me a F------ break! WHAT? The H1N1 flu virus doesn’t exist? WHAT? The H1N1 flu virus did not infect humans in 2009? WHAT? The H1N1 flu virus does not have the POTENTIAL, as is historically documented with all similar viruses, to mutate into a highly virulent, contagious and life threatening viral epidemic? ”DAMNED IF YOU DO AND DAMNED IF YOU DON’T” Tens of thousands of Americans die as a direct result of an ”average” flu season. If a serious H1N1 flu virus pandemic had, in fact, occurred, medical and public health organizations would have been BROIL ...
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I just KNOW this new virus was developed by the CIA, the Illuminati or those pesky REPTILIANS!   [End]
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For your outstanding and tireless efforts in promoting a paradigm that has resulted in such desirable public health outcome! ”Whooping cough epidemic declared in Wash. state” http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i7iXAKYrKyk8jZY2z6P-D7sMoO-w?docId=1c61121ee11e4650b3e2a241b757027c Time for class, children... I expect you’ll give me the pure BS response that it’s only the vaccinated who are spreading pertussis - I suppose any unvaccinated person who contracts pertussis cannot possibly transmit it? Admittedly, the pertussis vaccination is not perfect and some may ...
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The SUPREME HIGH COUNCIL of the CureZone hereby decrees that from this day forward, due to the paucity of actual divergent views expressed or even tolerated in this forum, the ”Politics Debate Forum” shall be known as the ”Politics Monologue Forum”!   [End]
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Children with any kind of health problem are usually precluded from receiving many vaccinations.   [End]
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I’ve successfully kicked the hornet’s here where the postings always seem to be rather redundant! Pet vaccination got a good reaction, shall we proceed to pet spaying an neutering? Pro or con? Be sure to back up your comments with good references. Does the ”Great White” Moby Whale-To have citations about pet spaying and neutering too?   [End]
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Until you’re faced with it! Deaths by auto accident are relatively rare too considering the number of miles traveled in this country. Do you wear your seat-belt?   [End]
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This place never fails to entertain!!!!!!!! Let’s see, help me decide can’t decide... Is is the DQ’s statement of ”double the deaths and maimings” a logical fallacy ”appeal to emotion” or an ”appeal to fear”? Or perhaps the ever popular ”parade of the horribles”? Keep it up - I love it!   [End]
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Lets mix it up a bit... What’s usually posted here by the hardcore militant curezone cadre is getting to be a real drag! QUESTION: What do Y’all think about vaccinating your pets? The immunology, anatomy and physiology of small animals closely mirrors that of humans. In fact, pigs are amazingly similar to humans! And some think pigs are smarter than most people! Love to know if you all feel that vaccination of pets is also an unspeakable abomination? Or maye a government and/or bio-medical industry or Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation plot to sterilize our pets? Just learned abou ...
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My experimental posting of citations supporting vaccinations produced just about what I expected - Same old, same old! Got anything original to post? :)   [End]
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Both girls AND boys need HPV Vax! Troubles With Heart Are Linked to HPV http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/health/research/25theory.html Oral Sex May Cause More Throat Cancer Than Smoking in Men, Researchers Say: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-03/oral-sex-may-cause-virus-linked-throat-cancer-in-men-study.html MOUTH CANCER AND THE HUMAN PAPILLOMA VIRUS http://www.rdoc.org.uk/hpv.html   [End]
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Isn’t there some sort of CONSPIRACY to debate here?   [End]
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Wow Hveragerthi! Your other post about HIV you referred to is quite informative! But I’m not sure how it all jives with Koch’s postulates as I have recently learned the subject.   [End]
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You’re quite entertaining in how you deal with idiots and knowledgeable too!   [End]
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Of course, I have no idea where you live but if you call a county or city public health department, they can usually direct you to some sort of free clinic in your area.   [End]
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Forget about UFOs, the CIA, Zionists, 9/11, Lee Oswald, and the Illuminati! “They” want to take away our WRESTLING! http://gawker.com/5671678/the-vast-democratic-conspiracy-to-disenfranchise-pro+wrestling-fans   [End]
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LADIEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ AND GENTLEMENNNNNNNNN! In the WWF ring tonight only - the ULTIMATE SMACKDOWN!!!!! The ARROGANT AUTHORATORIAN SCIENTIST versus the PESKY WORD TWISTER ANTI-VAXXER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAGED DEATH MATCH?   [End]
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Do you have a job? Why don’t you devote your energy to volunteering at a good charity like a food bank?   [End]
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JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ! How do you sleep at night with all these phony conspiracy bogeyman ideations swimming swimming in your head?   [End]
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Represent an industry? I’m just a grad school student.   [End]
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What you speak of applies to the classical study of species, not epidemiology, pathophysiology and immunology. These are all dynamic fields that are ever changing and adding to the breadth of knowledge in the particular subject. In these realms, there are never definitive truths and any scientist who thinks they’ve arrived at a definitive truth is foolhardy.   [End]
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Philosophically, the ”Truth” you speak of would seem to be a somewhat closed ended concept while science never settles for a static ”truth” and continuously strives for better answers to support hypotheses and quandaries using complex analytical methodologies that are open to professional peer review.   [End]
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I’m going to petition the judge to dismiss the entire Liver Flush Debate forum for lack of evidence!   [End]
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Hardly a challenge lately! This is no fun.   [End]
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Are why I JUST LOVE the CureZone! Sort of like a car wreck - You just can’t take your eyes off the carnage!   [End]
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Thoroughly entertained daily by the curezone - YES!   [End]
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I been cruzin da curezone and a lotta other ”Health” related web pages lately. Spent lots of time gathering the list below - And I coulda been out at the summer solstice at Stonehenge! With help from the Google, I was seeking the ”CAUSE FOR ALL DISEASE” but found it quite confusing! Each web site I found was equally insistent that their cause was the ”CAUSE FOR ALL DISEASE”. Forums here also reveal an incredible diversity of causes, many contradictory when compared. Some are related, some are well known and supported by ample mainstream medical literature, and... some are WTF!!!!!!! ...
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FINAL EXAM QUESTION: Consider the statement ”Perception is reality” and using only examples from postings on this forum, support or refute. No references to Whale.to will be permitted. Remember - Penmanship, grammar and speling count for the best marks!   [End]
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WOW what an incredible site! I’m a constant voyeur of the credulous and can’t fathom why I haven’t run across this Whale.to yet. All I can say is WHAT AN IMAGINATION! Where do they get this stuff?   [End]
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The DonQ guy would appear to backup befurther, I predicted it!   [End]
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My theory of the diabolical dicotomy is proved again! You see, BeFur here just can’t really hear what the Gatester is saying. It appears that English is BeFur’s native language but everything he/she hears is filtered in the brain through her/his worldview belief system of immunization is EVIL, the government (govmint) AKA ”THEM”/”THEY” is/are hiding all kinds of sh_t from ”US” and we cannot trust them varmints as far as we can throw them. When Gates says: ”Immunizations would lesson the risk of childhood disease and death in third world countries and perhaps those parents would c ...
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I know ----- Maybe Obama’s daddy was that dude in Libya?   [End]
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My point is Curezone is sooooooo entertaining. There’s such a diabolical dichotomy of differing paradigms available nowhere else! Politics debate is good but vaccination debate is getting better! I’ve become bored with the various flush forums. I’ve prepared a table below of opposing elements and ideologies, the sciency types on the left versus the Curezone regulars on the right and - NEVER the twain shall meet! Why do we continue with the pretense of ”Debate” here? It’s more like Wrestlemania! large scale data collected in a controlled environment vs anecdotal evidence for ...
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Bring out the popcorn - potential good show in the making! Befurther posts for weeks with nary a discouraging word countering his/her continual parroting of sources like natural news, whale.to and lowellfacts and now there appears to be some real action! Will the Curezone heavy hitters like Tony Isaacs be brought in as a pinch hitter to give the real smack down to the intruders? Just how did those detractors get in here? I didn’t see any stealth black helicopters!   [End]
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I have indisputable evidence that Obama’s father was Osama Bin Laden! ”Barack - I’m your fawthur”   [End]
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It’s a book review!   [End]
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Didn’t your daddy ever tell you not to wrestle with pigs in mud?! There is no civil debate here, just armed camps!   [End]
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A word of advice to 124880: Don’t risk stripping a gear in your pragmatic transmission negotiating the post-modernist alternate reality of Curezone! Scientific inquiry and application of rationality and logical analysis as practiced by graduates of a Smartypants University is not well tolerated in this realm where they worship at the high alter of naturalness.   [End]
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Actually a success story for the FDA. It was NOT approved by the FDA in the United States way back about 50 years ago. It was only released in Europe for prescription use by less strict regulatory agencies. The events surrounding Thalidomide were responsible for considerable changes in the way drugs are tested. Whole new protocols for drug testing were instituted by the FDA to closely assess the potential effects on pregnant women. Yes, Thalidomide - actually related derivatives - has been tested for other conditions of late. The use is carefully controlled and there are ample warnin ...
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Products like the zapper conform to no standards for safety like real medical devices regulated by the FDA. I wouldn’t use it or even let it be used in your proximity if your are, in fact, pregnant.   [End]
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;-)   [End]
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3 months after the exposure occurred to account for the possibility of a false-negative result. Ninety seven percent will develop antibodies in the first 3 months following the time of their infection. In very rare cases, it can take up to 6 months to develop antibodies to HIV. Another type of test is an RNA test, which detects the HIV virus directly. The time between HIV infection and RNA detection is 9-11 days. These tests, which are more costly and used less often than antibody tests, are used in some parts of the United States.”   [End]
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Be sure to consult your astrologer too!   [End]
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”Big Herba” ?   [End]
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Ghosts? Spectors? Spooks, Wraiths? Figments of your imagination?   [End]
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Mycoplasma is not a parasite.   [End]
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Most states already have childhood vaccination registries.   [End]
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I’m sure lots of people worldwide have passed away after getting a flu vaccination. Some die after eating dinner! Not necessarily the cause of death.   [End]
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Gastro-intestinal problems in autistics. It only studies the GI problems.   [End]
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If they are really in your lymphatic system, it’s too late for humaworm.   [End]
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Amusing - None of the references posted have anything to do with proven ”smell” tests in use by health care practitioners to identify parasites!   [End]
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