Rex and Lorraine, Thank you for your very personal postings . . . I sincerely hope that this questions in non-invasive . . . curious about progress? How are you both doing? Only reason I ask is that I know someone with similar situation . . . Thank you for your time and energy . . . Again, I apologize for intruding into your personal area   [End]
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Hello all, Great Site, Looking for info on H30, Hyrdrogen Peroxide and its uses . . . Have not found any info on your site . . . Any recommendations . . . yeh or neh Sites, etc? Thank you in advance for your time and energy . . . Barry   [End]
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Dawn, Good luck with your flushing and dieting. You most likely can reach a level of control which will keep you clear of colic pain. Watch what you eat in the way of ’trigger’ foods that you know will cause bilinary problems. Supplementing can also help to re-condition bile production, flow, and consistancy. Look into that too. Also Gallstones can possibly desolve in some instances over time but you need to be in for the long haul. Could take one or two years to desolve them as long as you keep your diet good. If your stones are ’small’ then it could be sooner and may ...
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Dale, I agree with you. Bile does not form stones. Cholesterol or calcium salts percipitation from the bile does. Bile does form into blobs, balls, or soft round objects when promoted by the process of the flush. I don’t call those ’stones’. Anyway, we all have our own opinions based on the facts that we believe to be true. Colic is not the indicator of my belief. Research, personal results, testimonies, and yes, even the ’evil’ doctors opinions have led me to conclusions that I beleive to be true. Wheither or not you or I are correct in our assumptions the goal is to ...
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Dear Dawn, Since you have asked me to reply, I will. Some people may not like what I might say on some things but that is to be expected. It is only my opinion, nothing more. Since this reply is to you I don’t expect to get callenges to my ’theories’ but if I do that is o.k. too. That is to be expected as well. My colic was a lot like yours. I still had colic attacks no matter what my dieting or flushing results were. I must say that I never did have problems with ’movie-corn’ because I always got the light or no butter and it never bothered me. I avoided the butte ...
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Arthur, You can believe what you want to about my body but I know what it was doing. I had ultrasound proof of my internal progress. My colic was caused by a 1 cm hard gallstone that would move into the mouth of the gb to exit. It would block the opening and cause my gb to bloat as it couldn’t pass the bile out of the gb and the stone was too big to pass through the 2mm cystic duct. This was 3-4 times a week at night after eating certain fatty foods. There were no more stones found in my removed gallbladder. If stones were moving down between flushes from my liver than ...
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Arthur, I think you are missunderstanding my colic. I just assumed you had been in the group for awhile and knew about my progress as I was posting all of my results along the way. Let me re-explain the pain before you ask your doctors again. My pain was not during the flushing itself. The effects of the ES and oil coating my system would sooth my entire digestive system. The problem was a few days or even a week after the flush (middle of the two week rest between flushes) when the oil left my system the colic would return the same and increased slowly over the 4 m ...
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Arthur, Results of my own personal research into topic has led me to my own conclusions. I have read in two different liver informational sites about liver dissection during autopsy, gallstones without liver stones present, etc. I don’t have the sites bookmarked but I will look for them and see if I can run them down for you. Some information that you run across while researching stays in your mind but you don’t always save the information for later. I wish I had now. I remember that while I was searching for liver information that there were hundreds of sites to run th ...
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Arthur, Obviously they don’t dissect every part of the liver on ’everybody’ who has died with gallstones in the gallbladder. The point is that they have dissected every part of the liver on ’enough’ of the people who have died with gallstones in the gallbladder to reach a conclusion which is based on facts. Hundreds of dissections on internal organs after death have been sufficient to prove a point with facts. Study the results and let me know what you find. Maybe the sufficient facts will not prove anything to you. I don’t think the facts are wrong. I think they sho ...
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Arthur, Thanks for those comments. Your opinion is respected. You’ve made some very good points. I think everyone in here has had some doubts about what a doctor has told them about the gallbladder. This has led us to search for ourselves on the Internet for alternative methods, etc. We (in here) are all at least smart enough to search for the answers without just relying on the first doctors opinion. We all get credit for that. Sometimes they are wrong, and sometimes they are right. Who are we to argue? Everyone has to decide what will bring them thier own health, ...
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Arthur, You haven’t read all of the testimonies in this group or on the curezone site. There are many people who have had problems with attacks during a flush, weight loss, etc. The flush worked fine for me. I produced over 2,000 blobs of bile during my flushes and even got out a lot of sludge, 12 black small hard pigment stones, but never the colic 1 cm gallstone from my sluggish gb. So, it worked and it didn’t. When they do an autopsy they will cut open the gallbladder and cross- cut the liver into sections. When this is done the results and facts cannot be ...
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Dear Arthur, Thanks for those tips on dieting. I’ll look into some of them. I will now try and answer some of your questions. I was using the Dr. Clark method for my 8 cleanses and varied them alittle with more ES (5 instead of 4 tblspns) and more oil too. I lost 15lbs in 4 months. From 170lbs to 155lbs and looked deathly thin. My regular weight that makes me feel good and healthy is 170lbs. The twice monthly flushing and dieting was the major cause for the weight loss. The flush would drain a lot of water from my body and I even was looking at it as an added b ...
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Arthur, Our approaches to this cleanse were definitely for different reasons and pains. I truly hope you can find better health and happiness with your cleansing. I had a gb that was pre-diseased, sluggish or not working properly. My liver is good according to test results. I didn’t have a gb ’full’ of stones, only 1 big stone that wouldn’t come out according to ultrasound. The ultrasound was true because once the gb was removed and cut open only one stone was found there. So why the hundreds of stones in each flush, the last one done one week before surgery? It wo ...
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Christa, You’ve asked my why your case is different. Every ’body’ is different. If you say that you were clear of stones by ultrasound maybe then it was a lot of substance, sludge, grainy buildup, stones, etc. in your ducts and liver. Whatever the case it is great that you are now ’technically pain free’ as you say. Congraduations on your accomplishments and good dieting. We are all searching for the same thing - pain-free, happy, and healthy living. I hope that you stay that way. You may be one of the 50% who don’t have to worry about reoccuring stones. Actually, sin ...
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Arthur, Calcium stones are not formed in the gallbladder, they are advanced there to bigger sizes. Bile has to enter first. Bile is from the liver. Could be that even a grain can stay in the gallbladder and collect to the size that is too big to exit. As far as my flushing 8 times, you 14 times, etc. Do you still have colic pain? Why have you flushed 14 times? Are you going to flush every two weeks for life? Are you still having pain is the question, and answer. You can mask the pain with the coating effects of oil and strict dieting but is the problem still there? ...
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Agnes, That picture of those cholesterol hardened gallstones looks exactly like mine. It IS very common because 90% of all hardened gallstones are made of cholesterol, or cholesterol-shelled texture. Calcium stones are more rare and can probably more easily flush out because of smoothness. Who knows? Size is still a major factor. As well as condition of gb for pressure, etc. I believe those multi-bubbled cholesterol stones can come from the liver or gb. I also believe in most cases they are formed in the gb just because of the intensive purpose of the gb to remove w ...
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Dear Agnes, I believe it to be opposite to the action you are describing. I think your theory has merit only if colic is not present. The stone would move to the mouth of the gb and block the remaining flow of bile from the gb. The result was intensive colic gb pain because the bile was not allowed to pass out. Ultrasound on an attack in ER showed the gb to be blown up like a balloon because the back pressure was building up. It was just too hard of an object to pass the 1 cm stone through the 2mm cystic duct. No pressure, no pain. The pain meant blockage. If the bil ...
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Dawn, For me the answer is yes and no. I did flush out around 12 small, 1-2 mm, black, hard, pigments stones on my 2nd out of 8 flushes. The 1 cm hard cholesterol stone in my gb proven by 3 ultrasounds during the 4 months of flushing never did come out. Hereditary, sluggish, and partially diseased gb didn’t allow the stone to exit with flushing. You have to check your body and personal progress with flushing. This is the only way to know the results. Do you still have pain? Do you still have a stone or stones in the gallbladder? Etc, etc. I must say that after ...
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John, Well, they did help bring us into this world. haha Individual cases with doctors can very well be wrong or an error can surly occur. Medical procudures and understanding of organ function is definitely based on years or research and study. Maybe the first open heart surgery was a failure (mistake?) but now they are done with skill based on experience and past knowledge. Medical methods and limitations are based on fact usually. They don’t like to stick their necks out on theory. Doing that is really the only way to advance medicine. Research for AIDS for inst ...
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Dear John, Since these are my statements you are commenting on I feel compelled to tell you that you are incorrect on your replies. Don’t get me wrong, you are only missunderstanding what I have said. First of all, most hard gallstones are not calcium. Calcium stones are very rare. Less than 10% of hard gallstones removed from a gallbladder are ’calcium’ based. Over 90% of hard gallstones removed from a gallbladder are cholesterol. That was one missunderstanding. I’m sorry you didn’t read all of my post. According to the general medical field, gallstones are ma ...
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Hi Vince, Yes, the medical field has already defined what a gallstone is. They say it is the hard throughout or hard shelled stone found inside the gallbladder not the soft balls of bile eliminated in a flush. Once again this is the definition of correct terminology and needs further clarification. Obviously by reading your reply to me you haven’t understood the differences I was making in gallstone and bile balls. One is formed by bad bile and is hard, and the other is formed by flushing bile and is soft. Dig deeper into those differences to further define the problem ...
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Let me explain my point of view again. I am quite certain that I will get out many blobs, globs, balls of bile by the hundreds without the gallbladder but I am also pretty certain that there will not be any hard gallstones that are formed in the liver. The ’stones’ that everyone is talking about are in two categories for me based on personal experience and hours and hours of study of testimonial and medical information. One is the 2,000 balls of bile (mixed with oil or not, doesn’t matter for this explaination and don’t need to open that can of worms again.) that I el ...
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Dawn, One week between flushes shouldn’t be a problem but once a day would. Your body really needs a rest after flushing because it really does a number on your system. That is the reason for the two week break. Some people can recover faster by replacing important minerals, enzymes, etc. but I would think you would be better to at least wait one week between flushes. 10 is not the magic number also. You may not need more than 5 or you may need a lifetime of flushing. I can feel by your recent posts that you are mainly concerned about stopping the pain. I was the s ...
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Dear Mark, I agree with your ’theory’ totally. I think the main thing that is being missunderstood here is the ’stone’. Know your stone is the answer. You have said exactly what I have been thinking. I have done 8 cleanses and eliminated over 2,000 bile-cholesterol globs or balls of bile. Are they stones? Call them what you will. I also had a remaining 1 cm hard cholesterol gallstone that would not exit with the flush methods. Two types of stones? I think yes. I call one the ’real’ gallstone and the other the bile-ball stone. Flush stone; This is the soft, squishy balls or globs ...
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made into a concentrate by the removal of water so that the amount stored   [End]
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Pigment stones are small, dark stones made of bilirubin. Gallstones can be as   [End]
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:52:55 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Laboratory test..Stones or bile..? Dale, Thanks for that large answer on bile but I don’t think you answered my questions. haha A couple of notes.. Except maybe for the part about bile being water soluble and not forming into balls. Aren’t balls or stones formed by bile witin the body when water is removed from it? Gallstones seem to be made this way within the gallbladder. Also, how can we really be sure what the internal labr ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 02:47:13 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Laboratory test..Stones or bile..? The question should be asked this way... First the facts. Olive oil does not ball up on it’s own within the body. Olive oil is not the ingredient of ’soap balls’. Olive oil has 0% cholesterol. But... How much bile was in the stones? What amount of oil was found in the forms if 90% was not cholesterol? What else was tested for and found? Oil does not create soap balls or coagulate in the body in ...
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Adrienne, Thanks for those tips. By research that I have done I’m not expecting anything to happen but I could be one of those chosen few. :-) If I get tightness or anything in the common duct or liver I will definitely clean it out with a few good flushes. I haven’t experienced any gasses yet but It’s only been 6 days. Thanks again. Barry.   [End]
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Teresa, You are welcome. I hope my ’opinions’ help someone in some way. We are all on this road to better health and happiness together and every bit of information we can get about gallstones sure does help. 2 flushes? Yes, you are still in the ’early stages’. I decided to give the alternative method of cleansing at least 10 flush attempts to stop my pain and remove my 1 cm gallstone. If after 10 tries it didn’t work, I was going to look at another option called Lithotripsy. Well, I made it to only 8 flushes over 3 months, lost around 15 lbs (which is too much for ...
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Claudia, Yes, my ultrasound shows a white stone object but it is actually a dark yellow cholesterol stone. I think both calcium and hard cholesterol stones will show up on ultrasound. 90% of all hard gallstones are cholesterol anyway. Pigmented and/or calcium stones are more rare. To get a pic of my stone please request it by writing directly to my email at barry@cancun.com.mx Ciao for now. Barry.   [End]
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Dear Agnes and everyone, I talked to the doctor again today who removed my gallstone. He confirmed to me that my stone is CHOLESTEROL not calcium. He said calcium stones are usually white in color, shinny, and more hard like a marble would be. He broke mine open and looked inside. Anyway, he seems to think that it is definitely a cholesterol based stone with a hard cholesterol shell and insides. Thought some of you who has asked to ’see my stone pic’ would want to know that it most likely is not a calcium stone but actually a cholesterol stone. Ciao for no ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:58:19 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: SURGERY-STONEFREE Reply-To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com Hi Ira, Thanks you for the best wishes. I’ll try and answer all your questions. Some people may not like the answers but it is only the opinion of one. I didn’t get laprascopic because the equipment was not available here in Cancun at this time. I had ’open’ surgery which meant 3 days in the hospital instead of only 1 day. They want to keep you there to check for infection and feed you medication. I left ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162”   [End]
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 03:03:19 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] SURGERY-STONEFREE Dear Stoners, I want to say ’thank you’ for everyones support in this group over the last 4 months. Rachel, Lu, Susan, Dale, Suzanne, Agnes, and many many more. I had surgery last Thursday and finally got my gallbladder out. It turns out that my gallbladder walls were diseased and would have produced more stones anyway. The walls were 4mm instead of the normal 2mm. There was a lot of preforming sandy grainy stuff stuck into the ro ...
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Lu, Of course. I experience all those symptoms. Not so much the burning feeling. Usually aching pain and sharp pain. Some swelling. Barry. --- In gallstones@y..., ”Lulu” Lu   [End]
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Lu, Of course. I experience all those symptoms. Not so much the burning feeling. Usually aching pain and sharp pain. Some swelling. Barry. --- In gallstones@y..., ”Lulu” Lu   [End]
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:04:24 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day Hi again Stu, Actually, I don’t follow the lighter-heavier stone idea. I like the closed system without air theory. I have a 1cm stone that moves into the mouth of the gallbladder and the attampted squeeze to the cystic duct causes my colic. It is only 2 or 3 times a week, in the middle of the night. My bilirubin levels have been ’diagnosed’ as normal and my stool color is normal as well. The producing o ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:04:24 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day Hi again Stu, Actually, I don’t follow the lighter-heavier stone idea. I like the closed system without air theory. I have a 1cm stone that moves into the mouth of the gallbladder and the attampted squeeze to the cystic duct causes my colic. It is only 2 or 3 times a week, in the middle of the night. My bilirubin levels have been ’diagnosed’ as normal and my stool color is normal as well. The producing o ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 03:33:17 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day Hi Stu, Welcome back to the group. Thanks for the info only it isn’t true in my case. I’m glad you said ’could be the cause of ’many’ attacks - left side. I lay on my right side just because of this logical approach to gb position but the colic still comes. There is only two other explainations why right side causes colic at night also. These should be considered. #1. The lighter stone - heavier stone t ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 03:33:17 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day Hi Stu, Welcome back to the group. Thanks for the info only it isn’t true in my case. I’m glad you said ’could be the cause of ’many’ attacks - left side. I lay on my right side just because of this logical approach to gb position but the colic still comes. There is only two other explainations why right side causes colic at night also. These should be considered. #1. The lighter stone - heavier stone t ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:09:42 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Lu, Oreo cookies, surgery, oreo cookies, surgery, oreo cookies, surgery. That’s your options. haha And don’t think you can substitute them for glazed donuts or french fries. haha Everyone is searching for a pain-free, happy, and healthy life. We have to always give and take in those areas. Everyone’s threshold of pain and tolerance is different. Be strong but be happy. Good luck with your search for ’you’. Barry. ”The Y ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:09:42 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Lu, Oreo cookies, surgery, oreo cookies, surgery, oreo cookies, surgery. That’s your options. haha And don’t think you can substitute them for glazed donuts or french fries. haha Everyone is searching for a pain-free, happy, and healthy life. We have to always give and take in those areas. Everyone’s threshold of pain and tolerance is different. Be strong but be happy. Good luck with your search for ’you’. Barry. ”The Y ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:05:01 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Lu, Ear flushing? I don’t mind having my head down sideways in the toilet but all those stones coming out my ears sounds pretty nasty. haha I wish I had only sand and small stones causing colic on the way out. Unfortunetly my gallstone is hard and over twice the size of my cystic duct. Dieting hasn’t decreased the size. 8 flushes over 4 months hasn’t helped it either. I’ll look into the ear flush before surgery. haha Barry.   [End]
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:05:01 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Lu, Ear flushing? I don’t mind having my head down sideways in the toilet but all those stones coming out my ears sounds pretty nasty. haha I wish I had only sand and small stones causing colic on the way out. Unfortunetly my gallstone is hard and over twice the size of my cystic duct. Dieting hasn’t decreased the size. 8 flushes over 4 months hasn’t helped it either. I’ll look into the ear flush before surgery. haha Barry.   [End]
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:34:59 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Dale, This is a great testimony. I was wondering something about your story. If you’ve been flushing for 3 years, have cleaned up your diet and are watching everything ’going in’ so well, and you have a clean ultrasound now, why do you feel you are still having discomfort? Do you think your bile within your gb is still producing stones that need to be cleanses out? Do you think sludge is building up causing the discomfort? I was j ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:34:59 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Dale, This is a great testimony. I was wondering something about your story. If you’ve been flushing for 3 years, have cleaned up your diet and are watching everything ’going in’ so well, and you have a clean ultrasound now, why do you feel you are still having discomfort? Do you think your bile within your gb is still producing stones that need to be cleanses out? Do you think sludge is building up causing the discomfort? I was j ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:34:59 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Dale, This is a great testimony. I was wondering something about your story. If you’ve been flushing for 3 years, have cleaned up your diet and are watching everything ’going in’ so well, and you have a clean ultrasound now, why do you feel you are still having discomfort? Do you think your bile within your gb is still producing stones that need to be cleanses out? Do you think sludge is building up causing the discomfort? I was j ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:34:59 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Dale, This is a great testimony. I was wondering something about your story. If you’ve been flushing for 3 years, have cleaned up your diet and are watching everything ’going in’ so well, and you have a clean ultrasound now, why do you feel you are still having discomfort? Do you think your bile within your gb is still producing stones that need to be cleanses out? Do you think sludge is building up causing the discomfort? I was j ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:26:40 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Teresa, If this is only your second flush you are still too early to see the final results. You shouldn’t be discouraged until you do at least 10 flushes. I know it sounds tough but there may be a lot of stones in the back of the gb that are moving forward to exit. You may have many years of gunk and toxins to clear out. Rome wasn’t built on one or two flushes. :-) Keep flushing. Some people are lucky enough to get the sludge, sand, or ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:26:40 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Teresa, If this is only your second flush you are still too early to see the final results. You shouldn’t be discouraged until you do at least 10 flushes. I know it sounds tough but there may be a lot of stones in the back of the gb that are moving forward to exit. You may have many years of gunk and toxins to clear out. Rome wasn’t built on one or two flushes. :-) Keep flushing. Some people are lucky enough to get the sludge, sand, or ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 00:26:19 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Lu, Maybe you created sort of a mini-flush contraction within your gb by drinking the cap and that tighening feeling was the sludge and stones passing down to your intestines. Then, the juice and ES would relax the ducts, intestines, and colon and the whole blasted mess came out for you to see. Sounds good no matter how it came out, right? Congratulations!!! Hope it helps to make you feel better. Barry.   [End]
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 00:26:19 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Lu, Maybe you created sort of a mini-flush contraction within your gb by drinking the cap and that tighening feeling was the sludge and stones passing down to your intestines. Then, the juice and ES would relax the ducts, intestines, and colon and the whole blasted mess came out for you to see. Sounds good no matter how it came out, right? Congratulations!!! Hope it helps to make you feel better. Barry.   [End]
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 03:08:55 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Hi Lu, There can be many reasons for this depending on many factors. Those stones, gravel, sludge can come from your ducts relaxing from the ES intake and cleaning out the excess from your last cleanse. When was your last flush? I’ve found that for up to normally one week, and even two weeks, that my body will continue to mini-flush as I eat fats and as the oil finishes coursing through my system. This is why a lot of mini-flushes happen w ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 03:08:55 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Hi Lu, There can be many reasons for this depending on many factors. Those stones, gravel, sludge can come from your ducts relaxing from the ES intake and cleaning out the excess from your last cleanse. When was your last flush? I’ve found that for up to normally one week, and even two weeks, that my body will continue to mini-flush as I eat fats and as the oil finishes coursing through my system. This is why a lot of mini-flushes happen w ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:29:48 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Teresa & Rachel, Sure, gravel can build up on the walls of the gallblader, clog the opening to the cystic duct, clog up the common duct itself as it clings to the sides of the ducts and cause a colic attack. The small stuff seems to create colic even more than a large stone. The large stone will sometimes be too big to even block the mouth of the gallblader and the bile will still flow past without obstruction. Only gravel? Do a flus ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:29:48 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Teresa & Rachel, Sure, gravel can build up on the walls of the gallblader, clog the opening to the cystic duct, clog up the common duct itself as it clings to the sides of the ducts and cause a colic attack. The small stuff seems to create colic even more than a large stone. The large stone will sometimes be too big to even block the mouth of the gallblader and the bile will still flow past without obstruction. Only gravel? Do a flus ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 04:13:33 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Teresa, Sometimes stones do not always show up on ultrasound. Another one would be helpful in the near future just to make sure they didn’t miss one (or more) on the first scan. If you do a few flushes and still have colic, that is when I’d check it again. Also, the smaller ones (and gravel) could cause colic just as well. The smaller gravel could be blocking your cystic duct or common duct. One good thing is that the gravel is a ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 04:13:33 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Teresa, Sometimes stones do not always show up on ultrasound. Another one would be helpful in the near future just to make sure they didn’t miss one (or more) on the first scan. If you do a few flushes and still have colic, that is when I’d check it again. Also, the smaller ones (and gravel) could cause colic just as well. The smaller gravel could be blocking your cystic duct or common duct. One good thing is that the gravel is a ...
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From: barry91162 [mailto:barry91162@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, 6 April 2002 13:17 To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Teresa, I’ll ask you the same question I asked Dawn. Have you had ultrasound to determine what size and number of stones you are dealing with inside your gallbladder? I’ve had 8 cleanses, and the colic will return for me after 2-7 days because it takes that long for the large amount of oil to process through my body. I’m sort of lubbed for a few days and then the colic is back to it’s usual self. Having the ultrasounds ...
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From: barry91162 [mailto:barry91162@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, 6 April 2002 13:17 To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 Teresa, I’ll ask you the same question I asked Dawn. Have you had ultrasound to determine what size and number of stones you are dealing with inside your gallbladder? I’ve had 8 cleanses, and the colic will return for me after 2-7 days because it takes that long for the large amount of oil to process through my body. I’m sort of lubbed for a few days and then the colic is back to it’s usual self. Having the ultrasounds ...
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Dear Agnes, Thanks for the tip about popcorn, but it was the purpose to create the colic attack and then flush while the stone was in the optimum position to exit out of the mouth of the gallbladder. The regular flush doesn’t contract my gb enough to push out my problem stone. Also, the ES has a relaxing effect on not only my ducts but it also relaxes the contracting gb too much to get out this 1cm hard gallstone. So, the idea was to create an attack by eating the popcorn, get the stone in the best position to exit, and then do the oil drink without ES. The results were not what I w ...
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Message originally posted to gallstones@yahoogroups.com ================================================== To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 05:25:37 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Colic-Flush....NOT!!! Hey Flushers, Last night I tried the ’colic-flush’ theory. Flushing while having an attack. Whereas it may work for someone, it didn’t for me. It was a living hell that ended up in ER at 4am in the morning. Never again for this flusher. I was thinking of trying to do it like Dusans grandmother. Remember that story ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:36:28 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: 2nd flush RESULTS Kate, Thanks for the knowledge that you give. Everyone has something to add that can be very helpful for the rest of us. You are not really going to want to hear this, but, if you want to loose weight, I can tell you what happened to me. In 4 months I’ve lost over 10 lbs. Closer to 15 lbs. Not only does a good diet change help drastically but I attribute a lot of it to the ES drinks. What I mean is, the ES causes me hor ...
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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 04:28:29 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] Re: 2nd flush..Nausea... Kate, I’ve done 8 flushes and feel pretty much the same as Claudia. I can always think of a thousand things I’d rather be doing with my day off. haha The ES doesn’t bother me because I used to drink a lot of mineral water. Seems almost the same to me. Also, make sure you are fasting all day before the cleanse. Maybe only a light lunch will help you to not throw anything back up. When I eat a ’bigger’ lunch before a fl ...
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From: ”barry91162” Date: Fri Mar 22, 2002 4:46 pm Subject: 8th cleanse RESULTS.. Message originally posted at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gallstones/message/9812 Hey Stonies, Here we go again. I’ve just completed my 8th Dr. Clark Liver/GB cleanse. This is the first time I’ve eliminated the Epsom salts. I’ve used them every time before. I wanted to try something different to get the gb to contract harder and get my hard, 1 cm, ’problem’ stone out. I was thinking that the ES was restricting the contraction of my gb because of it’s relaxing properties. My thi ...
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From: Barry Date: Tue Mar 19, 2002 4:58 am Subject: Re: first report of the radical experiment :) Rachel, Adrienne is probably right about the oil not immediately lubing up the stones. But the fact that you drank oil with your attack has resulted in 25 stones coming out the next morning. Without the oil, your pain may have dissappeared and nothing from your gallbladder may have came out. Who knows? At least while you were having an attack, you aided the process with a flush of oil. Hopeful this removed what was causing your original pain and blockage. Time wil ...
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From: Barry Date: Tue Mar 19, 2002 3:29 am Subject: Re: maybe a crazy idea... Rachel, This sounds very logical to me. (ok, I’ll admit it, I am the ’other offlist corresponder’ who has been going over this theory with my cleanse cousin Rachel..:-)..) My colic is simular to Rachels and many other people in this group. While the ’regular’ cleansing (fasting, ES, oil) has produced great results in the fact of removing sludge, grain, soft stones, etc (I’ve done 7 flushes eliminating over 2,000 stones (soft globs) and tons of toxic sludge, and even a dozen sma ...
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 03:03:59 -0000 From: ”barry91162” Subject: Re: the morning after....first report :) Hi Rachel, Congrats on what you got out so far. Hope you get more of the same. Well, that is what you want. :-) I was wondering if the juices you’ve added to the drink will hinder results in some way because most all the online cleanse methods don’t add ’additives’ to that formula. Whereas it may be easier to get down, the extra juicing may interfere with the direct action of the oils solo effects. Like salads with oil, french fries, etc, giving us t ...
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Posted to [Gallstones] Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 01:18:50 -0000 From: ”barry91162” Subject: 7th Flush Results ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Hey Stonies, Well, here we go again...Did my 7th cleanse using Dr. Hulga Clark method with ES (Yes, I wanted to make sure the ducts were dialated, relaxed, or whatever the general concenses is now). The difference to Clarks method was to use 4 drinks of 1/4 OO\GF spaced 15 minutes apart. I’d added twice as much of the potion to try and get the gb contracting more within the hour of bombarding the gb with oil every 15 minutes. Resu ...
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Message from Barry, from gallstones@yahoogroups.com. To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com From: ”barry91162” Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 02:14:46 -0000 Subject: [gallstones] 4th Flush, SUCCESS!!!!! Reply-To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com Hi Stonies, I’ve just completed my 4th flush and WOW what a great success. I’ve passed somewhere near 1000 stones!!! This was a POWER flush for me so let me explain how it went to encourage some of you who may be looking for a good cleanse story. :-) I used Dr. Clarks method again. Ate dry cereal and fruit for breakfast. A potato an ...
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Does anyone have advice for softening the harder calcified stones? I can’t get gold coin grass. Is apple juice good enough? Does anyone know of a better stone softener before a flush? Thank you, Barry.   [End]
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