Porosity increases the rate that calcium carbonate is dissolved in our stomach acid. Compared to calcite crystals, coral calcium will definitely dissolve faster if the grain size is the same. But once dissolved the body will not be able to tell the difference.   [End]
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They are the same, and the same as tap water.   [End]
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Too much magnesium and potassium will give you the runs. Heard of ’a dose of salts’?   [End]
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The best water is probably from your tap. If it smells of chlorine use a carbon filter.   [End]
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The water tests acid because of a small amount of carbon dioxide leakage through the membrane of the RO. This can do you no harm.   [End]
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Thanks for the link. We do have to work harder to get a balanced diet, but we shouldn’t be defeatist and go for packaged nutrients. If we accept that our food is barren and that we need to supplement, then we are not creating the demand for whole food.   [End]
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The point is that people should take responsibility for their health and choose a diet that contains sufficient calcium. Taking expensive supplements is not the answer.   [End]
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Britain’s ministry of defence intends to hold an independent judicial inquiry if a body found west of London on Friday proves to be that of the missing Iraqi weapons expert David Kelly, Prime Minister Tony Blair’s official spokesperson said.   [End]
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Maybe Chemie can comment on the site http://www.chem1.com/CQ/clusqk.html   [End]
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Thanks for the link to the site. I have serious problems with the chemistry though.   [End]
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I have looked at the website, and the treatment uses good technology. I dont agree with the hype though.   [End]
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I was arrested (outside of US) once and was not allowed to contact anyone. Nor was my family informed. There is nothing more frightening than knowing that you can disappear.   [End]
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Structured water doesn’t make sense. I have been to the penta website, but I cannot follow up their references. Does anyone know of proper scientific studies?   [End]
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See reply to bevpirt. If I had to choose I would go RO   [End]
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Reverse Osmosis is a good technology, but it removes the good with the bad. It takes out Calcium, Magnesium and the essential trace elements along with alkakinity. It doesnt remove the Carbon Dioxide completely, so the pH does tend to drop. This is not a problem, the loss of minerals is. What I am saying is dont rely on pH. If you are going to drastically purify your water with RO/distillation, you then need to add the minerals back. First check your tap water, most of it is OK and if you use a carbon filter you can remove the chlorine and disinfection byproducts with taking out the minerals.
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Ed, Thanks for the website info. I have read it, don’t really understand it fully, will need more study. I use a reverse osmosis water filtration system at home and it always tests at the lowest pH on my paper, which is 5.5. I bought some Alkalife drops and have been using them according to directions. Of course, the water still tests 5.5, but my saliva after drinking this water tests in the alkaline range, where it does not if I just drink the RO water without additives. Thanks. bevpirt   [End]
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Distillation is a very drastic refining process. Calcium, magnesium and the trace elements are separated out. What goes over is water, carbon dioxide and VOCs. The VOCs are a number of organic compounds that boil at the same or lower temperature as water. Some are toxic, but the concentrations are very small. If you are worried about pollution of your water source, found out what the pollutants are before choosing to treat it.   [End]
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Try this http://water.nr.state.ky.us/ww/ramp/rmalk.htm Some of the sites I have looked have some ’hairy’ science content.   [End]
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I will look out for a site and post it. At any time 1/10 000 000 of water molecules split into hydrogen ions (acid) and hydroxyl ions (alkaline). When these are in equilibrium and equal we talk about a neutral water, and the pH is 7. So acidity/alkalinity coexists.   [End]
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Let me reassure you the whole world can distinguish between the government and the people of the United States. We do not hate Americans.   [End]
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Water can have alkalinity and an acid pH. This is due to the bicarbonate ion, which is very weakly acidic. It is important not to confuse alkalinity with ’pH above 7’. The breakdown of foods as you mention is important to the acid alkali balance. Fats, carbohydrates and protein are broken down to carbon dioxide(sightly acidic) and urea (slightly basic). The quantities outweigh the amounts of free carbon dioxide found in natural water. I am not talking about carbonated water (soda).   [End]
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Every time you breathe out your body is geeting rid of carbon dioxide. The amount of carbon dioxide that your body produces as a result of normal respiration is thousands of times greater than you will take in by drinking naturally carbonated water. Mineral acids are different in that they need to be neutralsed by alkaline minerals or excreted.   [End]
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There is no proper pH. The human body is designed to be able to take in water that is both acid and alkaline. Natural waters containing carbon dioxide can have a pH of about 4, and have NO negative effect on health. Other waters that have passed through limestone can have a pH above 9 and are also safe to drink.   [End]
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Excellent. But it does not make sense to distil the goodness out of water, and then take Coral Calcium.   [End]
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The 14 Characteristics of Fascism Dr. Lawrence Britt, a political scientist, wrote an article about fascism, which appeared in Free Inquiry Magazine -- a journal of humanist thought. Dr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile). He found the regimes all had 14 things in common, and he calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The article is ”Fascism Anyone?,” Lawrence Britt, Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20. The 14 characteristics are: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalis ...
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It is generally understood that essential means that it cannot be synthesised in the body. The glyconutrients are therefore not essential in this sense. Call me picky but the term essential was abused in the aromatherapy world, and this causes harm.   [End]
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Fundementalists fondly think Magog is Russia WRONG!! A clue take out the 2nd 4th and 6th letter out of the president’s name G*O*G*   [End]
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Who actually was the ’Willing’. Does this also include countries where the majority opposed the war?   [End]
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You cant change the pH of water with sound or light. Chemical equations have to balance otherwise you are creating or destroying matter!   [End]
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The sad thing about US policy is that whoever takes over in Iraq will be seen as a stooge. This opens the door for extremists to take over and the cycle starts again. I never thought I would agree with the CIA!   [End]
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Sure. But remember that equations with a lot of greek letters dont make an argument. Actually they do but thats another discussion.   [End]
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Anyone have any of these products in their homes I am getting ready to buy and looking for others who have experienced them personally. Thanks in advance.   [End]
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This is very disturbing. The jusification of using nukes to destoy WMD (despite the obvious irony) is frightening. And afterwards there would be no evidence that there were any weapons at the target.   [End]
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The discussion sort of drifted away from its original point. Probably should be part of a different forum?   [End]
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I am for peace and truth. Jet fuel will not burn at a temperature that will melt steel under normal conditions. However if there is a forced draught of air, the temperature of burning increases. I dont know what would happen in a collapsing building.   [End]
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BlueDuck, Freddy is the guy who created the ”MUD”. It is a combination of A*****ose complex which is a glyconutrient containing 8 essential saccharides. FIRM is a glyconutrient skin product that penetrates layers of the skin. Sport capsules are Phytosterols that support our endocrine system for immune system support. When combined and packed and wrapped on sore muscles or torn ligaments, there is a healing process that begins. My doctor is amazed. These products can be viewed at the below link and Eden’s Way www.edensway.net is where I get my information. I also subscribe ...
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Perhaps, but I dont trust physicists. After all one of their central tenets is the ’Uncertainty Principle’   [End]
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Hi Noni Just to let you know that I’ve finally received my water alkalizer tank and have slowly started to accustom myself to drinking higher pH levels of negative ORP water. There are a few comments re: water alkalizer units on the Water Cure forum (page 1) but the entire forum doesn’t look very active.   [End]
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Enjoy your cake. There is no need for guilt.   [End]
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I have tried to find these articles on the internet, but I get mainly references to websites that refer to them not the actual papers. Incidently, I found 78 Ways Sugar Can Ruin Your Health 49 ways... 67 ways... 108 ways... 126 ways... all rehashing the same information   [End]
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The use of long lists is a disingenuous device. 1. The reader will assume that the evidence is overwhelming without examining it closely. 2. The chances are that any reader will have at least one of the symptoms/diseases mentioned. 3. The references give the impression that all of the points are scientifically based. The papers mentioned are not easily accessible to the average reader (Is there an Anti-Sugar website that will show the actual articles?). Many references relate to Cleave, Appleton and Goulart et al, these are not scientific papers, but are Anti-Sugar books and articles. ...
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Is sugar bad because it is glycemic? If so, then why single it out from all the other foods mentioned? I agree completely that sugar can be part of a bad diet, but that does not mean that it cant be part of a healthy diet. The amount anyone can take depends on their glucose response. Again, take responsibilty for your own health and stop blaming sugar.   [End]
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I agree. Please look at my original posting. People do need to eat healthy food. Sugar is not bad in moderation. The fact that it can be used to excess means that those individuals are not taking responsibility for their health and will suffer for it. To blame sugar is a cop out. For the rest of us that eat a proper diet, we can enjoy sugar without the need to feel guilt.   [End]
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Thank you for your effort. The articles in their main point to high glycemic foods. This includes starches. In the 60’s it was purely sugar, and complex carbohydrate was supposed to be better - we were lead to believe.   [End]
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National Academy of Sciences’ Dietary Reference Intakes Report Good place to start, look forward to hearing from you once you’ve read all the references. You will notice that the papers are neutral - they neither promote or condemn sugar.   [End]
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I thought Bush and co were rather clever in fooling so many people. But their lack of ability to govern their new territory suggests otherwise.   [End]
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I thought Bush and co were rather clever in fooling so many people. But their lack of ability to govern their new territory suggests otherwise.   [End]
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Sugar is no more damaging now than it was in the 50’s. It is simply that the US government and its agencies tried to show sugar in the worst possible light. And the gullible public fell for it, anybody surprised? Pseudoscience is when we are told that sugar is bad for us because it is refined, and then we are told that unrefined sugar is just as bad. Where are the population studies that show the ill effects of sugar? Why do the Swiss who consume more sugar than the other Europeans live longer? Probably they havent been brainwashed into believing that the will die young.   [End]
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I missed this story originally - and cant find any follow up. Is it confirmed?   [End]
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coral calcium is not scum, scum is so many companies out there who have no clue what are they selling, and probably lie to us on the label, and their sites.   [End]
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Is it not strange that the anti-sugar pseudoscience appeared in the early 60s, after Castro took over Cuba? An effort was made to reduce worldwide sugar consumption, and hence destroy the economy of Cuba (the world’s largest producer at the time). At the same time, consumer’s were introduced to Corn Syrup - a synthetic product. Later, non-nutritive sweeteners like saccharine. Obesity has increased despite substitution of sugar. Sugar is neither good or bad, obesity depends on so many more factors. In moderation, sugar refined or not enhances the quality of life ENJOY IT. Do not blame i ...
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Distillation is a refining process, as used in oil refineries to produce petroleum products. Therefore distilled water is REFINED water and contains no minerals.   [End]
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Sorry didn’t get an email....oh well, sent you one, let me know if you get it   [End]
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How can Barrett and Baratz be bankrupt and also sponsored by the pharmaceutical industry?   [End]
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1. We will see exploitation of living coral 2. All calcium in nature is ionized. This means that the calcium atoms have a double positive charge.   [End]
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All calcium found in nature is ionized and inorganic.   [End]
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Afraid you’ve lost the plot here. All heavy metals and minerals are inorganic. For something to be organic it must contain carbon. Complexes may contain organic and inorganic components like haemoglobin and chlorophyll When coral dies, the organic portion rots away leaving the skeleton, or inorganic part. Coral calcium is inorganic.   [End]
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Afraid you’ve lost the plot here. All heavy metals and minerals are inorganic. For something to be organic it must contain carbon. Complexes may contain organic and inorganic components like haemoglobin and chlorophyll When coral dies, the organic portion rots away leaving the skeleton, or inorganic part. Coral calcium is inorganic.   [End]
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”Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it.” - Mark Twain   [End]
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Do you people believe that the universe revolves around the US? In South Africa, we have grown our economy, our currency has gained 50% since Sept 11 over the dollar. We are achieving racial harmony. Our army has prevented a war (Burundi) But we do have the same stars in the sky.   [End]
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