No - if nothing else it is highly goitrogenic (supresses the thyroid). Candida people tend to have weak thyroids as it is. So give the soy a miss. JV.   [End]
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At least someone on this page knows what they are talking about. JV.   [End]
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Deb, according to Cutler, not supporting the adrenals is the biggest mistake that mercury toxic people make. So you are most certainly doing the right thing by supporting your adrenals. Do not listen to the naysayers. Of course cortisone (and other forms of adrenal therapy) have their contraindications, but its only short term until you get the mercury out. Mercury toxic people need as much adrenal support as they can get. Hope everything is well with you, JV.   [End]
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I am getting them out on the 25th of this month and will start some mercury detoxing at that time Deb are you getting them all out at once?? Also what kind of detox are you planning? JV.   [End]
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Thanks john. We both agree that candida is a symptom not a disease. What would be nice would be to find a single underlying etiological factor responsible for candida in general, though I’m not saying that one necessarily exits. JV.   [End]
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Stanna, if you want to know more about diagnosing mercury toxicity then give me an email (link below) and I’ll let you know. JV.   [End]
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To confirm, does this mean mould (and ie my coconut chips) are ok to consume? Yes they are fine (as long as they don’t have any sugar coating). If its just coconut then it is a great food. BTW *everything* has mould on it - small amounts which you can’t see and which is harmless. Candida can’t metabolise moulds. It can only metabolise sugars. If candida is immuno based, then I think its time to go back to acupuncture. Don’t bother - accupuncture is fine for symptom relief, but it won’t cure you of a serious disease. Let me give you an example of what I mean when I say immuno ...
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You are right a lot of the candida information out there is out-dated and wrong. The literary sources are so out of date as to be meaningless. To give you a headstart: 1. Mould doesn’t ”feed” candida. Candida has nothing to do with mould. Candida is a normal inhabitant of the GI tract which has overgrown due to immunodeficiency. 2. Fruit consumption is best limited. If you can find a low-sugar fruit out there that doesn’t feed your candida then by all means eat it, but don’t think that candida doesn’t love ”natural” sugars just as much as ”artificial” sugars. They are both ferment ...
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Hi Stanna, I am well thanks! How are you doing? You know who the experts are? You and I - thats who. Don’t be shy about trusting your own experiences. We get screwed over twice - once by the orthodox medical establishment who don’t believe in candida, then by the alternative community who haven’t got a clue. Its always nice to pop back and check-in with my candida buddies. ;-) JV.   [End]
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Stanna was right - FOS feeds candida. There is no controvery though - everyone who knows anything about candida knows that it can easily metabolise the simple short-chain sugars in FOS. Unfortunatley the health food industry is totally ignorant of what candida is. JV.   [End]
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Hi Deb, I hope you are well. Send me an email. I have some stuff I wish to discuss with you. ;-) JV.   [End]
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I’m keep checking the clock timer to see if it’s set at the right time as I’m terrified to miss a dose! Feel like I’m developing OCD lol! This is what I found as well! The trick is to have an alarm clock with at least 2 alarms (as you do), and wake-up/take doses at exactly the same time. That way it becomes automatic and there is no thinking involved. 3 o’clock in the morning is not the best time to be thinking! Keep us updated. JV.   [End]
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Anne, I keep on forgetting about this! Thanks for reminding me. I’m probably just going to cancel. BTW how are you feeling now? JV.   [End]
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There are many other froums where you can discuss anything you want such as this one. On the one hand you reserve the position of unchallenged control which you wield over the FDC group, making sure that the entire content suits your own personal agenda. Yet you see fit to go into other forums and use/abuse them for whatever purpose you like. There is something slightly hypocritical about that. The purpose of this forum is most decidedly not to talk about anything you like. This is a support forum for those pursuing Andy’s chelation protocol. Your arrogance speaks volumes. You acc ...
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So the groups here on curezone are closed groups? If so then ok otherwise I will be posting accurite information. I hope your information is more *accurate* than your spelling, for all our sakes. I’m glad you have finally embraced the concept of free speech/information. Does that mean you will be opening up the FD yahoo group so that it is no longer censored/moderated? Or will you be maintaining your monopoly on what can and can not be said? JV.   [End]
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Please be aware that this forum was set up because we were unhappy with the fd yahoo group - in particular with the moderation. Whilst we wish you well with your group, I would ask you to refrain from posting here. JV.   [End]
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Please be aware that this forum was set up because we were unhappy with the fd yahoo group - in particular with the moderation. Whilst we wish you well with your group, I would ask you to refrain from posting here. JV.   [End]
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Is it ok to prepare capsules for a round at a time....so they will stay fresh presumably if opened and divided 3-4 days in advance? See what I mean? thats a great question - not one that I’ve thought of. I’d like to know too - especially with regards to oxidation. Are you doing every 3 hours or every 4? Also what time are you planning on starting/stopping?? JV.   [End]
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Thanks wintergreen, I’ve added your suggestion. http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=333&i=1 JV.   [End]
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Thanks wintergreen, I’ve added your suggestion. http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=333&i=1 JV.   [End]
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Dear webmaster, many thanks for the new Chelation: Cutler protocol forum. You made a lot of people happy. I have just one more favour to ask. Is it possible to put the following image on the forum page: and link the image to the following URL: http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=333&i=1 Many thanks, JV. [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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I was thinking of doing that and also letting the frequent dose chelation group and maybe the Autism/mercury group about this forum Thats a great idea Anne! I know lots of people don’t like the yahoo groups format anyway. JV.   [End]
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Dear all, I’m going to ask webmaster to put a picture of ”Amalgam Illness” up on this forum (much like ”Tooth Truth” for the amalgam forum) and when you click on it you will get sent here: http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=333&i=1 Any thoughts/feedback/text edits most welcome. JV.   [End]
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janey in case you didn’t know on your feedback I got webmaster to set up the " Chelation: Cutler protocol" forum. If you want to continue the discussion over there you are most welcome. JV.   [End]
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I’ve already done it! (just telling you so you don’t go contacting him needlesly). Basically Andy sounds very positive, and would consider refering people here if this forum turns out to be more user friendly than yahoo (which if you 2 are anything to go by it will be). So our task - friends - is to make this forum work. JV.   [End]
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Cutting open coconuts gets easier and easier - pretty soon you develop a ”technique”. Heck - if monkeys can do it! Also half the trick is finding the ones which will be easy to open in the first place. Some people eat it straight - but it makes me gag after a while. Its an oil - oils are not pleasant on their own. If you melt it and put it on food you will hardly notice it. P.S. give the coconuts a try too and compare. Good luck, ;-) JV.   [End]
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      "Amalgam Illness" is the first book that Andy wrote and is basically the book you need if you want to chelate according to this protocol. It is jam-packed full of useful information. Even if you don’t have any mercury issues its a useful book to own if you are dealing with any kind of chronic illness. Click on the book to be redirected to Andy’s site where you can find out more and buy direct using paypal. This book can also be ordered from  Amazon or Amazon.co.uk       "Hair Test Interpretation" is Andy’s ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Thanks Anne, I didn’t intend for all those questions to be answered in one go! But you seem to have made a damn fine job of it. JV.   [End]
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Maybe Andy would be willing to post on occasion as well. Its funny you should say that ... :-) JV.   [End]
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Wow - this is really useful stuff. You and I are on the same wavelength Wintergreen! I approached Cutler with a *very* skeptical mind. For a start I don’t actually have any amalgams left. Yet the science is spot on. I can not find any holes in it and its been amazingly accurate in my case. I totally agree with you about this being *the* last stop so to speak - dealing with the underlying cause. I’m really looking forward to having many interesting discussions with you, JV.   [End]
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Great point Wintergreen. I wish someone had told me this before I impetuously did my first round of chelation with 100mg ALA! Anyway a blessing of that episode is that I got to know all the symptoms of mercury poisoning. So at least I know what to expect. Have you started chelation yet? JV.   [End]
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Amanda, If you want to eliminate/consider mercury as a possible cause of your health problems then having a hair test done would be a good idea. If mercury isn’t your problem then you can move on to investigating other causes. A congested liver is purely a symptom (as is a toxic bowel) of candida. Mercury however is a *cause* of illness - it is not caused by anything else. So if you are looking for a cause you won’t get any deeper. JV.   [End]
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Deb I really don’t like the thought of taking any kind of meds indefinitely. Me neither. I wouldn’t have taken glandulars if I thought this. when I get the dosage right I feel great, still playing around with what works best for my body. listen to your body I am right now using straight T3, a timed released cytomel. Most people feel better on some mix of natural thyroid and synthetic T3. A lot of people don’t like just being on T3 - of course I am not saying that you shouldn’t. I tried Armour and my temp would come up for a couple hours and then plummet horribly. ...
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Amanda - I can only speak for myself, but in my case my mercury fillings didn’t give me any *obvious* symptoms most of my life - that doesn’t mean they weren’t a drain on my immune-system/physiology, but just that I was ”normal”. As your doc says an otherwise healthy body can cope with almost anything - even the 2nd most toxic element on earth - mercury. That doesn’t mean that you aren’t affected on a physiological level - it just means that your body masks all the damage that mercury is doing. However along comes something else - in my case it was stress combined with a severe vira ...
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Using coconut oil as an antifungal isn’t so straightforward because coconut oil is absorbed very early on in the digestive tract. A much better idea is to eat coconut, because there the coconut oil is (naturally) combined with fibre which helps deliver it to the place it needs to go most - the colon. However coconut oil is fantastic metabolic support. It really helps the thyroid in particular. For this reason I would recommend it for anyone with chronic illness, in particular candida - not because of any antifungal properties. Of course then there is the wider issue of why we have ca ...
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My take on it is that my thyroid is producing enough hormone hence the normal labs but because there is so much candida in my blood the hormone can not find the hormone receptor sites thus giving me low thyroid symptoms. Thats basically the nub of it - there is enough thyroid hormone around, its just not doing its job properly. One of the issues is are we producing enough T3? The body not only converts T4 into T3 but also into rT3 (reverse T3). T3 is the active form of thyroid. rT3 has almost no activity whatsoever and simply binds up your thyroid receptors. So in order to have a fun ...
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Great! Give it a read over and come back if you have any questions. JV.   [End]
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Die, yeast, die! :-) LOL. My sentiments exactly! JV   [End]
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Just wondering if anyone here is following the Cutler protocol for chelation (after amalgam removal)? JV.   [End]
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Jhan, the only place I’ve reliably heard about a link between Bvits and candida is to do with biotin. Biotin is often touted as something which stops yeast turning into the mycelial form. However it is highly unlikely it does this. Instead I have even seen some claims of biotin causing yeast growth (again I don’t know how reliable this is). From http://www.cfsn.com/yavenge.html I found the following: ”It has been postulated by some that biotin directly controls whether or not candida is in single-cell or overgrowing fungal form. The published science clearly shows biotin does not hav ...
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Me neither ;) Sorry I keep mentioning you in some of my posts re the hair analysis. Really sorry if that’s put pressure on you :) No not at all! I don’t mind that. I just hate seeing my name up so many times! At the moment we need a way to gently guide people towards the Amalgam forum if they still have amalgams. Chelation is something you do when removing amalgams doesn’t work. The effort involved is too great for it to be something someone does routinely. JV.   [End]
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Welcome froggie! Wow - what a story. You posted a lot of questions in there. Let me just say that this forum is really for after you’ve had your amalgams removed (by whatever means necessary). Amalgam removal is a big topic and there is a forum devoted to it. http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=42 But chelation is also a big topic. I had a urin test that showed lead poisioning, and I am going to have a hair test tomorrow. I believe my body is choosing to eliminate the lead first. Yes! This is why so-called urine ”challenge” tests are so unreliable. Apparently it can take many m ...
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Hi Mo4, hair analysis is probably the only useful way of detecting mercury problems. Basically a person with mercury toxicity has a certain ”profile” which comes out in their hair minerals. Sometimes it can be as simple as seeing high mercury. But often you see very low mercury combined with a derangement of other minerals. Low hair mercury is significant because everyone has mercury in their body. A healthy body will naturally try and remove some of that mercury into the hair. But a very toxic body loses this ability - and you end up with very low hair mercury levels. There is work ...
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Great answer Anne (better than mine). I’m looking to you to provide lots of the input on this forum. I don’t want this to be my forum - it isn’t. Or for me to be some kind of resident expert - I am not! But hopefully we can build up some momentum and a group of like-minded individuals. It will be quiet for the first few days, so we can take the opportunity to answer some generalised questions between ourselves. Here are just some issues that have been batting around in my head: 1. What makes chelation work quickly and painlessly in some people and not others? 2. What stage should ...
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I have been playing safe and avoiding them in view of discussions (past and present) on ’B’ vits feeding candida. OK. JV.   [End]
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I suppose this means I ought to get started now ;) Or at least provoke more discussion about when *is* the right time for each person to start! Definitely - thats the first thing to do! Hopefully we can both make a start, and then anyone else who wants to join in can do so. You can’t have a chelation forum where no one is chelating!! JV.   [End]
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Mo4, the amalgam replacement forum is probably the best place to start: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=42 . There you can get advice on where you can find an appropriate dentist. Basically you need to find someone who follows the correct protocol - removing mercury is the time when exposure can be highest. You should certainly never get mercury fillings removed by an ordinary dentist. You want to make sure that they: 1. remove *all* the amalgam in your mouth 2. use an oxygen mask during removal so you don’t re-breathe in any mercury 3. some people suggest using a ”rubber dam ...
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Anne, No probs. Tell me if you find out anything more about the vaccine. BTW you might like to check this out at some point: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=638 JV.   [End]
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I just want to invite everyone on board and say that this is *your* forum. If mercury is an issue in your life and you want to detox using a safe and proven protocol then you have come to the right place. This is the place to learn about Andrew Cutler’s chelation protocol. More and more people are finding that their intractable health complaints are down to mercury. Many of us on Curezone have been interested in pursuing this line, yet without the necessary support it is not easy to make a start. One of the many effects of mercury is to make decision making very difficult. Chelation is ...
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Its always a dilemma with the ’B’ vits however - seems they are very important for phase 1 liver detox but yet on the other hand they feed the candida Amanda, I’m curious to know where you found this? JV.   [End]
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P.S. check out the candida forum - there are a couple of messages for you there (one from me). JV.   [End]
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OK, thanks, I’ll just create a new ID just thought it was worth a try in case it was something reasonable. Thanks! Lori   [End]
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Just found a couple of things out which might be of use to you: 1. Hepatitis B infections and/or the hepatitis B vaccination inhibit the enzyme that converts sulfite to sulfate (Shattock, Paul, O.B.E., “ Environmental Factors as Triggers, Implications for Control and Therapy,” Autism DAN! 2000 Conference Tapes) So on top of any possible mercury concerns, the actual Hep B vaccine could have done some damage. 2. Excessive levels of L-cysteine are controlled by the liver using the enzyme CDO to decompose the amino acid to non-toxic and rapidly excretable sulfate. The enzyme “ cyste ...
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Hang on a minute if I’m keeping you sane, who is keeping me sane?? If it wasn’t for you I wouldn’t even be on this path, thats for sure! So its me who should thank you. BTW I’m sure you’ve seen it before but have a look at these (especially the starred ones): http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/LOVE_LETTERS.html always good for motivation. JV.   [End]
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To be fair there was one positive post - but not by a regular. It looked a bit dodgy - of the form ”email me for further details”. Just do a search for ”magnetic clay” on the list if you are still not convinced and I’m sure you’ll find it. Anyway as Cutler says there is no harm in it if you really want to try it. BTW I’ve come up with a remarkable way to accelerate the chelation process by 4 months. Its called ”don’t procrastinate for 4 months”. I’m pretty much ready to start chelation. Just have to measure my caps out. Hopefully webmaster will set us up as soon as he checks the s ...
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Here is some research for you: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/140992 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/139386 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/139379 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/127448 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/122866 Cutlers view: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/138624 Here is a funny one. Don’t know what to make of it!: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/13 ...
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Thank you Alikat - I think I love you. ;-) JV.   [End]
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Anyway are you going to suggest it to webmaster? Done. JV.   [End]
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Dear webmaster, I would like to request a new health support forum called: ”Chelation: Cutler protocol” Here is a description of the forum: ”This forum is to allow people who suspect they have mercury-related health problems to chelate according to the protocol of Andy Cutler. Cutler’s protocol involves taking low doses of a chelating agent - (ALA, DMSA, DMPS). This is done on a strict schedule every 3-4 hours (day and night) for several days in a row. Andrew Cutler’s book can be purchased from: http://www.noamalgam.com/ . This forum is set up to allow those pursuing this protocol ...
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Hmmmmm do you know having said all that, maybe we should just use the chelation forum as that should encompass ALL protocols anyway. Since we’re taking over all the other forums, why not just move to that one with more discussion about hair tests? Sorry for the lack of decisiveness! Because if you don’t mention Cutler or confine it to Cutler then chelation can be used as a springboard for just about anything. People could come on and say ”chelate with product x,y,z” with no regard for whether: 1. x,y,z actually chelate 2. no knowledge of what the word chelate even means 3. no knowled ...
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BTW how would you feel about having a forum here on curezone for people following the Cutler protocol? There seem to be an awful lot of people out there either suffering in silence or following dangerous protocols Great idea Johnny!! :) Anne, its something I’ve been kicking around for a while. Here are my reasons. The yahoo frequent dose group is cryptically named, and is lacking any kind of expertise. At the same time it is heavily censored. The yahoo autism group is much better, but the volume of messages is too high and it is geared largely towards autism. In any case the yahoo ...
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yes, i believe we did have the same test. mine was by Trace Elements. it gave the same range yours did. The ranges are supposed to be age/sex specific, so they may vary slightly. why do you think the cal/mag is so high and the barium & tin are high? High hair calcium is a classic sign of mercury toxicity. High hair calcium actually means that you have *low* body calcium - i.e. your body isn’t utilizing calcium properly. (this doesn’t mean you should start taking lots of calcium mind you as this will probably make you feel worse, but I do recommend that you try taking magnesium s ...
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Does frying food with it ruin it? It doesn’t ”ruin” it, but like most food heat will denature/damage it to some extent. But in general if you are going to fry use a saturated oil like coconut oil because they are less susceptible to heat damage than unsaturated oils. Also, how do you just eat a spoonful of it? You don’t - oil on its own - any kind of oil is not pleasant. Eat with food and you’ll hardly notice the taste. JV.   [End]
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What lab did this test? Was it DDI? Trace elements? Each element should have a ”reference range” on your test results. e.g. on my test my hair calcium is 182, and the reference range is 22-97, so you can see my result is way outside the reference range. If your results follow a similar scale (they look as though they do) then 166 is very high. You seem to have a classic deranged mineral profile (in the Cutler sense) which is indicative of mercury toxicity. JV.   [End]
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As for the sulphur sensitivity, i react to the tiniest amounts of Glutathione, Cysteine, Biotin, ALA, Epsom Sals, garlic, onions etc etc, Do you know that this is a classic symptom of mercury toxicity. What do you plan on doing next? JV.   [End]
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I couldnt tolerate ALA, or any of the other sulphury supps (kidney pain) which meant that DMPS and DMSA were out What kind of dosage were you taking and what dose schedule? When chelating it is critical that you use the right dose and take those doses on the correct schedule. Have you had a hair test? That should give you a good indication of what metals are affecting you. If you have one done I can interpret it for you (I’ve read Andy Cutlers book on hair test interpretation). JV. BTW in case you are wondering both Anne and I have similar problems to you - candida caused by me ...
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Thanks for the encouragement. Its good to hear someone who is on the other end of their chelation battle. You sound like you’ve found a great doctor to treat you. What kind of protocol are you guys following? JV.   [End]
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Your in Candada right? I don’t know what the situation is there, but I know that in the US you need a professional (doctor, chiropractor etc.) to refer you. In the UK you just pick up the phone and ask for a hair test! If anyone puts up a hair test I can tell them if their minerals are deranged and/or if they have possible heavy metal issues. Its interesting what you say about the parasites. Your research has been invaluable too Shroom. I’m sure everyone here appreciates it as much as I do. BTW are you still following the Salt+C protocol? If so how is it going? Candilass seems to ...
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Not only are you saving money, but according to Cutler, monthly DMPS injections are a *very* unsafe form of chelation. They can lead to massive redistribution and severe side effects. Read more on http://www.dmpsbackfire.com JV.   [End]
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Can you post the numbers from the hair test (along with reference ranges)? Being low in mercury is often a sign of mercury toxicity as it means that the mercury (which almost everyone has) is not being excreted properly. High calcium is also an indicator of this. But I would have to see more to make a definitive diagnosis. JV.   [End]
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This isn’t exactly data but it really put me on a downer when TK said he’s been chelating for several years!!! Though I know his mercury was off the chart. Also remember that his exposure was occupational, so he is not the best person to compare with. I would chose someone who had candida and mercury from amalgams, and who has stuck rigorously to the Cutler protocol. How much of the seeds did you have? Do you think 1 tablespoon a day would be too much? I was taking much more than this. Several scoops of ground powder (where 1 scoop=maybe 2 heaped tablespoons). Yes but he wa ...
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The idea of chelating for several yrs just depresses me actually! I want to have children and I don’t want chelation to get in the way! The sooner I start (chelating) obviously the better! I was thinking more along the lines of a year. But again there isn’t enough data out there to say how long it will take. Like you say the only thing for sure is the sooner we start the better. There is a big difference between having to put up with inconvenience which leads to the ultimate goal of getting better, and just having to put up with inconvenience which doesn’t lead anywhere. BTW Johnny ...
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Finally I’m s*** scared! Me too. I’m glad one of us was man enough to admit that! Esp after reading Mage’s story, though I know I know she was taking well more than we will be....it just freaks me out though! Actually I found mage’s story very reassuring. I’m serious. Everything was *exactly* as Cutler predicted. I know she is spooked by her experiences (which is only natural) but I really think she could do well on low-dose frequent chelation. Really there are only 2 intractables to chelation: 1. the length of time required 2. the intermediate candida symptoms - how bad will ...
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WOW!! Great post. If you look back through the archives I’ve been recommending CO for EBV for years now. Please keep us updated on your progress!!! JV.   [End]
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I got my clock today.....it’s a nice shade of terracotta! :) BTW the radio signal is ok now. The alarm isn’t very loud but I’m sure it’ll be fine. Thanks for telling me about the signal! I’m rapidly running out of things to stall chelation with. How about you? Have you run out of excuses yet?? ;-) JV.   [End]
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Ok I’ll see what I can do about getting a scanner. If you want to see what a typical deranged mineral hair test looks like just take a look at either Anne’s or her friend’s. Shroom have you had a hair test done? I’d be interested in having a look at your results. JV.   [End]
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No problem Mage. I decided a long time ago never to question people’s own inner judgement about their own bodies. Please do stick around on this board. There seem to be many of us with intractable candida problems, and many of us with mercury issues, but few of us have put 2 and 2 together! I suspect that many people here have undiagnosed mercury problems behind their candida. The thing i like about Cutler is that he tells it to you straight. He promises no shortcuts, no quick fixes. But that problems can and will be fixed - it just takes some time and commitment. Andys main chela ...
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Hair tests are one of the best tools - information is the best medicine! I totally agree Svenis. Information is power. I took my test in the UK from mineral check who outsource to ”Trace elements inc”. I’ve found the hair test to be without doubt *the* most informative test I have taken. Its consistently given me the same picture - that mercury is causing my health problems. JV.   [End]
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Are you going to put it up in the ”gallery”? Not saying you should! I would but: 1. I don’t have a scanner (although I could buy one) 2. At the moment the main reason for putting up things in the gallery (that sounds so Tony Hart doesn’t it!) is so I can have a look. The only reason for me putting it in the gallery would be to say to people - this is what a deranged mineral profile looks like. But there doesn’t seem to be too much interest on this page regarding that. Basically I’d be speaking to you! JV.   [End]
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OK I got my 3rd hair test results back, taken only 2 months after the previous one. Well to those of you who question the validity of hair tests, all I can say is that the results are exactly as you would expect - i.e. very similar to the last one (only minor differences) This test was really a form of validation for me - an extra security proceedure. I’m very impressed with the accuracy. JV.   [End]
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Sorry dunya I thought you were #36919! One way to determine whether mercury is currently causing you any problems would be to have a hair test done. Does that interest you? JV.   [End]
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Johnny, I knew you were an interesting kind of guy lol ;) You could play games with it....ask people if they can guess what the letters stand for!! Cadmium is in there too...strange! They missed out selenium too! Rascals! Oh that doesn’t sound good....I’m getting slightly concerned now as I get hypoglycaemic and adrenally stressed all the time. I can’t work out whether it’s inducing those symptoms in me as I get them anyway. Bare in mind that I was megadosing - 5-10g. My guess is that to feel hypoglycemic you will need to take at least 5g. And the adrenal effects probably only a ...
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Just out of interest, what kind of chelation protocol are you following? How is it going? JV.   [End]
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I could have it as my days off but I don’t know how I’m going to feel and don’t want to feel like I’m losing it in the middle of a field surrounded by thousands of people! But then no doubt a lot of them will be out of their minds anyway so I’ll probably fit in ;) If you are inclined you could certainly start now, but I would leave a week or two clear before hand where you don’t chelate. JV.   [End]
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Admit that you saved them on your hard disk into a special folder, together with photos of Merlin Monroe, Grace Kelly and Miss Universe 2005 :-)))) Doh! You got me there! JV.   [End]
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Also Patrick Holford says (in ”Optimum Nutrition for the Mind”) ”Once we’ve ingested toxic minerals they must compete with other minerals for absorption. These minerals are called antagonists and form our first line of defence.” On a related note I found this on the web (its linked to on the Magnesium article, but they gave the wrong Url). Anyway I agree with everything you say! Sorry for rambling on a bit, I’m just bored today!! Me too. I’m kinda in the middle of waiting for supps to arrive. JV.   [End]
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No problem Anne. BTW I have put your hair test up too with name removed. It is still early days in my understanding of minerals, but my current thinking is that most of the effects of mercury are actually caused directly by deranged mineral transport. If this is true then supplementing should help a lot. More and more we are finding case studies of people being cured of various ailments just by taking various minerals. These minerals must be specificly tailored to the problem/person, in the correct dosage, and often in the correct form (e.g. citrate) for bioavailability. The ...
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Dear moderators/webmaster, could you please put the following pictures: /_c_forums/candida/Is_this_candida_or_what.jpg /_c_forums/candida/smallerphoto.JPG into their own subdirectory (marlenep?) as they are not the most attractive image to be presented with every time you enter the candida image folder!! Many thanks as always, JV. [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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Look at my previous message now. I’ve uploaded the image to the candida folder under a new directory called ”hair tests”. I’ve also resized it and deleted the name (for privacy reasons). If you want me to remove the picture at any point just tell me. JV.   [End]
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average is 3, which is less than 5, so rule 1 is met 3. # essential elements in red zone is bigger than 4, so rule 3 is met Looking at the very low level of mercury=0.03 we have a classic deranged mineral profile here, where mercury is not only inhibiting the transport of essential minerals, but also its own transport. Calcium & Magnesium are far away from Sodium & Potassium, so subject has adrenal problems (& possibly thyroid issues). Adrenal support may be advisable. Hair calcium is elevated, which means that body calcium is depleted. This subject is unable to utilize calcium p ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Following on from my recent posts, I’m holding off on testing for aminos. I believe that minerals are the key to this conundrum. If you don’t balance your minerals no amount of aminos will fix your metabolic problems. Following Canuckguy I tried some copper recently and felt the same ”poisoning” sensation he did, so I backed off. However now I am suffering from hypo(thyroid) symptoms which is strange given that I am taking thyroid, selenium and coconut oil. According to ithyroid-guy, copper increases estrogen and leads to hypothyroidism. Zinc on the other hand increases progesterone and ...
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Is this a standard lab test? Do I need to go to any kind of special doctor for it? thanks Candida tests are only ”standard” in alternative medicine circles. Look on this web page for candida tests and where you can get them from. Contact the labs directly for further information (e.g. to ask if you need to go through a doctor). I live in the UK where you *don’t* have to go through a doctor, but I don’t know the situation in the US. http://www.cfs-recovery.org/testing.htm#HowToGetTestedForCandida JV.   [End]
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I need some kind of legitimate test done to prove to my parents that it’s not just ”in my head,” and that Im not being tricked. I need it for myself as well. Antibodies test (either using blood or saliva) is the way to go. JV.   [End]
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Zinc (Citrate 30-100mg) When mineral transport is deranged, hair zinc goes up but body zinc goes down. Very few people have too high zinc. Zinc deficiency causes imbalanced Th1/Th2 and reduced NK cells. This leads to a poor immune response against yeast. Zinc and copper work together to regulate the thyroid. A deficiency of zinc leads to hypothyroidism and a deficiency of copper (with excessive zinc) leads to hyperthyroidism. Zinc can give you more energy since it stimulates the thyroid and some people take up to 100 mg a day to get more energy. Don’t take more than 100 mg a day. Always t ...
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I followed the DAN protocol of DMSA in which the dosage was calculated according to body weight. I started out with 500mg/3xa day times 3 days then off for 11 days. Mage, this is a crazy, crazy protocol!! Firstly 500mg is *way* too much DMSA (20 times too much!!!). People talk about 25mg, or even less as a starting dose. Secondly (and this is the most important thing) DMSA must be taken regularly every 3-4 hours - certainly no longer than 4 hours appart. This includes night time too where you must wake up. If you don’t do this the blood level of DMSA will fluctuate *wildly*. As a result ...
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Thanks Anne, I agree with Shroom - I score exactly 50/50 on both lists, so not sure how diagnostic it is. I should point out to both of you (Shroom and Anne) and anyone else reading that this stuff is new and speculative. I still haven’t figured most of it out. I don’t know if all brain fog is down to urea-cycle dysfuntion, but I do know that a lot of medical conditions (other than candida) involve brain fog, and the cause of that brain fog is urea-cycle dysfuntion, not acetaldehyde. The B12 and folic acid advice is spot on. Correcting histamine levels can be quite dramatic i ...
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Disclaimer: I just want to precede this message with a disclaimer that this work is on-going and is early stage. It represents my thoughts at the moment more than any hard evidence. Hopefully in the next week or so I’ll be able to polish it up and remove this disclaimer. Most of us have varying degrees of brain fog. For me I’ve pretty much woken up "hung over" every day for the last 3 years or so. On a typical day I would spend the morning in a stupor and only gain my senses around afternoon time. I thought it was the candida producing acetaldehyde (the breakdown product of al ...
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Brandon, my take on liver flushing (having done 20 flushes, having read/researched extensively for the last couple of years) is that it seems to help some conditions, but is very stressful on the liver. Also it didn’t do anything for my candida. p.s...what is DDI and how expensive are good hair analysis tests? Would one confirm that I have candida? thanks DDI is doctors data inc. p.s...what is DDI and how expensive are good hair analysis tests? Would one confirm that I have candida? thanks DDI is doctors data inc. http://www.doctorsdata.com/ I think its around $100 ballpark ...
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What is casava, I’ve never heard of that? You cook your brassicas well I presume? Casava goes by many different names - casava, manioc, mandioca, tapioca root, yucca etc. Its a root veg a bit like potato but more healthy, and more candida-friendly. Very much an ”ethnic” food. The advice to cook brassica is actually a bit misleading - I looked it up a while back and apperntly cooking only destroys something like 1/3 of goitrogens. Well I’m taking vit E, vit C with bilberry, selenium (food-state), zinc, but I feel I need something else and wasn’t sure what to get. Perhaps CoQ10 but ...
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Why didnt the hair analysis/blood tests show his mercury toxicity? Blood test won’t show mercury toxicity as blood mercury is cleared fairly quickly by the body (within days/weeks). I don’t know what kind of hair test he had, what the results were and who interpreted the test. Hair tests require intelligent interpretation. For example see the following from the ”New Scientist” on Autism and its link with mercury: ”In 2003, a small study by paediatrician Amy Holmes found much lower levels of mercury than normal in the hair of children with autism (New Scientist, 21 June 2003, page 4). ...
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Sorry for another long post, I’ll keep it brief from now on! Don’t be silly. Post as long (or short) as you want. JV.   [End]
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Hope this helps, JV. [My notes are in red] http://www.ithyroid.com/hypot_recovery_story.htm HYPOTHYROIDISM RECOVERY STORY I grew up in upstate New York with very little seafood on the table (a rich source of iodine). When I was in my early 20’s I had dropped out of graduate school and was just laying around with no energy, wondering why. I started reading nutritional information and came across information about iodine and the thyroid gland. My mother had hypothyroidism, as did her two sisters, and one of those sisters had three daughters, all of whom had thyroid ...
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Stanna, Don’t worry about interpretation, I could do that for you. I would certainly do a better job than 99% of practitioners out there. All you would have to do is type up the numbers. JV.   [End]
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Mage, I was looking through your posts. Here are my comments: Does anyone have a foul taste along with the white tongue? Sometimes - only when the candida over grows. I lost both my normal sense of taste and smell about 4 1/2 yrs. ago at the onset of my illness. Any thoughts? One thing you could try to restore your taste/smell is high dose taurine supplementation. Taurine is the amino acid most directly responsible for taste/smell and candida/mercury people are almost always deficient in this amino. Taurine is especially concentrated in the olfactory bulb part of the brain (t ...
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Johnny, actually I did mention all this when we first started talking about mercury, chelation, Cutler etc weeks ago on this form ;) Sorry you are right - my bad! Later on when I decided to get my fillings out due to increasing concern about mercury (still not knowing anything about thimerosal) I had no obvious improvement in my health so I just wrote it off again. Hey - snap to that - this is basically what happened to me too. Took my 1 mercury filling out, no improvement. One of my alternative dentists even said to me ”Candida is mercury - its always mercury”, and I thought ”Yo ...
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How can a hair analysis be precise? If your body can’t excrete the copper, you’ll have too much copper but your hair analysis will reveal that it is too low. I’m really not sure about this, but it could be true. Good point. This is why you need to have an intelligent analysis done of your hair by someone who knows how each element behaves. This is beyond the knowledge of most practitioners. You have to play detective to some extent. For example hair sulphur levels are pretty meaningless. Plasma levels are what is important. Similarly High hair calcium doesn’t mean that you hav ...
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Shroom this is the book I have: http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html Its just recently been published by Andy Cutler, the mercury guru. I know for a fact that there are a couple of other good books out there too, but this one is geared towards heavy metal toxicity. JV.   [End]
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My health problems started following 4 jabs of the Hep B vaccine. I had an advanced course so had them all within 4 months whereas Hep B vaccination is normally spread out over 12 months. The vaccines contained thimerosal which is 50% mercury as you might know now but I’m wondering whether homeopathy might help with the possile damage caused by the vaccine itself. What??!! You’ve been holding out on me! Its like the guy who’s candida guide candilass sent me - he became ill on holiday and the thing which helped him most was a parasite cleanse. Now I’m no sherlock holmes, but that says to ...
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Thanks again for all the info, after my trial 3 months if I don’t see improvement that will be my next road to explore definitely. No problem. JV.   [End]
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Found the following on the Amalgam archives about lunagirl3’s recovery story from mercury poisoning/candida by following the Cutler protocol. http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=42&i=1344 Hi, There is definitely hope. I had my 8 amalgams replaced in Aug/Sept 02. Since then I’ve been chelating according to Andy Cutler’s protocol (see http://www.noamalgam.com or http://www.autism-mercury@yahoogroups.com for info on his protocol). I have improved so much since I first started. Many neurological, emotional and physical symptoms have cleared up. For example, no more brain fog, no dy ...
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I’ve not had the hair analysis done, but maybe I should. Hmmmm. I would seriously advise anyone/everyone to get a hair analysis done, especially if they have been ill for a while. Its cheap, quick and gives you a lot of information. JV.   [End]
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Here is what Andy Cutler has to say about Glutathione IV’s and why they are a bad idea: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/57321 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/36198 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/35451 Here is what he has to say about ”Inappropriate” Chelation protocols such as IV Chelation: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/1740 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/2658 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/921 http ...
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I thought his was an interesting story! I’m open-minded about homeopathy and think I may give it a go to treat my reaction to the Hep B vaccine. No it is very interesting. BTW What reaction to the Hep B vaccine??? JV.   [End]
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Amino Acids http://www.iwdl.net/amino%20acids.htm This is the test I am currently advocating especially given my interesting results with Histidine. The only question is whether to get the blood amino acid test: " The Amino Acid 40 tests measures 40 amino acids, this includes all of the essential plus key non-essential amino acids.  Fasting levels of amino acids represent homeostatic balance between supply and utilization of these critical building blocks." Or the urine amino acids test: "The Urine Amino Acids analysis measures both essential and non-essential ami ...
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In case anyone is wondering I am trying Canuckguy’s protocol: http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/candida/ Canuckguy basically cured himself of candida by taking copper and selenium. Yep thats it. My copper was very low on a hair test, so this is my main focus (I’m already a big fan of selenium). Canuckguy said he got a massive reaction the first time he took it. Well I got that too - only I took it for 4 days before I reacted (2.5mg a dose). I’m using an amino acid chelate (Solgar). On the 4th day I felt poisoned. Not nice. So I’ve stopped for now. Will resume at a lower dose ...
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Its a fascinating question - its basically what I call the Cutler hypothesis. Unfortunately I don’t know of anyone who had a deranged mineral profile and managed to recover (without chelating). Canuckguy had a hair test and he managed to recover just by taking copper & selenium, but he clearly doesn’t have a deranged mineral profile. BTW in case you were ever wondering DDI hair tests are available in the UK from iwdl at £65, which isn’t too bad. http://www.iwdl.net/minerals.htm JV.   [End]
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P.S. take a look at Deb’s message above. Her doc gave her IV chelation to which she reacted badly, and IV glutathione to which she reacted even worse!! http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=460&i=12614 I’ve told her what I think of her doc, but I’m sure she could use a second opinion. I think she would benefit enormously from a hair test. I also suspect heavy metals. JV.   [End]
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OK I’m going to tell you some things that you may find quite interesting. If you want a 2nd opinion on anything I say then feel free to ask Anne/Boronia. I did about 3 of the IV chelations and either die off or just detox from them were too severe and I opted to not do anymore. My doc had said I probably only needed a couple anyway since my levels were all pretty good. IV chelations are just about the worst thing you can do. Especially if you are heavy metal poisoned. Basically the chemistry of chelation is such that one-off doses, or large doses are dangerous and can result in hor ...
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That’s interesting. I remember he mentions nickel in the amalgam book and a connection to mercury, but can’t remember the details and don’t have the book on me. He actually says that elevated nickel is a sign of amalgam poisoning, but he is using amalgam poisoning in the general sense to be synonymous with mercury poisoning. I thought he meant that nickel means amalgam as opposed to other sources of mercury, but re-reading it this isn’t what he is saying. Yes it’s definitely helping me too, but I just keep hearing that if you support the adrenals for too long they become lazy which ...
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The main thing is results. If he can consistently produce results then his protocol is a good one. JV.   [End]
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If this keeping my temps up doesn’t give me the improvement I’m hoping for I might ask him about the hair test Ok but bear in mind that most practioners don’t know how to read a hair test, which may mean he deems it unnecessary. My nutritionist deemed my hair test so ”unspectacular” that she didn’t even give it to me! It took me 4 months to get it off her, and it is by far the most informative test I have ever taken. It should be compulsory IMHO for anyone with any chronic illness. JV.   [End]
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Its also interesting that my neice came back from this horror without liver flushing, and without colonics/enenmas that are so often promoted on here. Not saying all that doesnt work - but it is just all dealing with and controlling symptoms. Just my thoughts for what they are worth. Not just your thoughts but my thoughts too. These things do not adress any underlying cause, as you say they are just symptom management. I feel great right after a colonic or liver-flush. But it doesn’t last long. JV.   [End]
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No, I’ve had the 24 hr. urine test for heavy metals twice about a year apart and checked out pretty good. Was a little high in cadmium, nickel and one other one can’t remember off hand. Had no elevation at all of mercury or aluminum, those were the two I was mainly concerned with. The tests were done by Great Smokies Labs and cost $1,000.00 so I hope they were reliable. My advice would be to get a hair test. They are cheap and give you a lot of information - not just on toxic metals but on essential elements. Hopefully the urine test was accurate, but having a hair test will be an extra ...
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Just as a general comment - there is alot to be learned from the Autistic groups. They are literally way ahead treatment wise. I couldn’t agree more. I’ve joined the yahoo mercury autism group and am very impressed with the general level of knowledge. Incidentally there is much to suggest that both candida and autism may be linked to heavy metal toxicity - in particular mercury. This is the main avenue I am exploring at the moment. BTW did you see this post: http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=2432 on the breaking health news forum? This may be the begining of the end for a ...
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Just as a general comment - there is alot to be learned from the Autistic groups. They are literally way ahead treatment wise. I couldn’t agree more. I’ve joined the yahoo mercury autism group and am very impressed with the general level of knowledge. Incidentally there is much to suggest that both candida and autism may be linked to heavy metal toxicity - in particular mercury. This is the main avenue I am exploring at the moment. BTW did you see this post: http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=2432 on the breaking health news forum? This may be the begining of the end for a ...
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So are you starting this weekend then? Good luck!!!! I don’t have any reason to delay any longer. Its time to take the plunge. If there is one thing Cutler keeps on emphasising it is don’t delay - there is no reason to. JV.   [End]
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So are you starting this weekend then? Good luck!!!! I don’t have any reason to delay any longer. Its time to take the plunge. If there is one thing Cutler keeps on emphasising it is don’t delay - there is no reason to. JV.   [End]
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Also I took some ecsatasy one night 2 yrs ago which affected me a lot (silly I know!) and I haven’t worked out how that fits into the equation but it obviously didn’t help! I seriously doubt that one ecstacy could mess up metabolism that much. I really wouldn’t worry about it. JV.   [End]
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BTW you are right about Chromium. Low chromium suggests blood sugar issues, but high/normal chromium doesn’t mean that blood sugar is normal. So you couldn’t wait for the Belgians eh?? We seem to be pretty much at the same stage. I’ve basically run out of things to do, and pretty much researched every question I need answering re: Chelation. This is the clock I intend on buying: http://www.ukweathershop.co.uk/acatalog/oregon_scientific_tc_sub.html - executive travel clock with 2 crescendo alarms (comes in a choice of 3 colours) And thats it. My first round is going to be jus ...
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Thanks Anne. First Test: Looking at your first test mercury has been an issue for you. Also elevated nickel hints at amalgam being a source for the mercury. Low molybdenum isn’t good because it is used by the body to detox alcohol (from yeast). I don’t know if you had candida back then? Calcium&Magnesium were fine, but Sodium&Potassium were very low. 2nd test: Magnesium is now depleted. Sodium&Potassium are improved but still low. Your molbdenum is improved, so presumably you have supplemented at some point? Mercury is low so either you have chelated it all, or m ...
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As an example I’m going to interperet Canuckguy’s hair test [hope you don’t mind Canuckguy, if you do just tell me]. All Canuckguy’s tests can be found here: http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/candida/blood.html. Scroll down to the bottom for the hair test. None of the Cutler counting rules are met by the hair test - in other words mineral transport is normal. Therefore hair levels of elements will largely reflect body levels. In particular Mercury is elevated and this reflects body burden. Calcium & Magnesium, Sodum & Potassium are not far apart (and all normal) indicating that th ...
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I’ve almost finished reading Andy Cutler’s book on hair analysis. If anyone has a test they would like me to look over I wouldn’t mind. I won’t be *diagnosing* anything from a test, but I will give you a few pointers. The best thing would be a scan posted up in the candida image gallery. Scans are much easier to look through than a list of numbers. JV.   [End]
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I believe that ”transference” is a term coined by and used by the discipline of Psycho-analysis. Funnily enough, this is considered by large swathes of people in the community of medics and psychologists to be totally and utterly UNscientific. Strange, isn’t it, where people will turn to find ammunition when they are more interested in attacking an opponent than in gaining deeper understanding, during the course of an argument. regards, DH   [End]
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The hair book is worth buying then? How much is it? I think its worth buying. Its $40 (+ an extra $5 for air mail postage). You can wait a couple of days and I can give you a full review. JV.   [End]
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I didn’t ask for a refund from supersmart. I’m sure it will arrive when they said, and if it doesn’t then I’ll ask for a refund. If you think Captomer arriving is exciting then you are an easy kind of girl to excite aren’t you! I don’t know when I’ll start - I think the weekend schedule of chelation is good because psychologically its a lot easier to do stuff like that on a weekend. I’m still reading Cutler’s hair book which is actually the book I should have read first given my whole diagnosis hinges on it. Also I need to split the caps into smaller dosages, which shouldn’t be to ...
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Guess what? I got my DMSA this morning! Not from the Belgians mind you, but from nutricentre. Its possible that they order this item in 1 at a time (actually nutricentre had to order it in, its just that they were really quick about it). I think the supersmart order will arrive - eventually. They processed my payment fine. Just FYI the nutricentre product is Captomer from Thorne Research, and its not listed in their catalogue so you’ll have to order it by phone. It was £41.45 before discount, £31.08 after - so it is more or less the same price as supersmart. JV.   [End]
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Shroom, the normal yellow tongue coating we have is just gunk. There may be some bacteria in there as well. Candida is white - I get a white coating towards the back of my tongue every time I eat something I shouldn’t. This is candida. I got a white coating last week and I tried killing it with baking soda - boy did it hurt! This stuff was alive. JV.   [End]
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Could it be from the properties in the garlic acting as a natural antibiotic?? what are your thoughts??? Yes! I too get a white coating on the back of my tongue if I eat something I shouldn’t. This is candida as opposed to the yellow gunk which normally coats our tongue. Garlic is a great antifungal, but must be crushed beforehand. JV.   [End]
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SCD is good for when you have an overgrowth of bacteria in your small intestine. We all have bacteria in our small intestines (as well as the colon/large-intestine), but we don’t want too much. If you have too much (of either good or bad bacteria) you will get IBS type symptoms. SCD is good at tackling small bowel bacterial overgrowth because it restricts the supply of carbs for these bacteria to ferment. One thing that you may consider as well/instead is increasing bile (by eating more fats, lecithin etc.), because bile is what keeps bacteria at bay in the small intestine. SCD fo ...
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I dont know about you folks but everytime i go to the doctor, he prescribes me antacids, H2 Inhibitors, you name it. I had been overdosed on those antacids for a year before getting candida. This is probably what caused your candida. There is a strong association between candida and antacids. HCL is the bodys greatest defense against candida. As anyone ”studied” the possible link of Helicobacter Pylori bacteria with candida infection? Yes I have. Check out my blog As anyone ”studied” the possible link of Helicobacter Pylori bacteria with candida infection? Yes I have. Check ...
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the products lasts a long time. you only use a few drops i the eye cup with water. its very potent and takes getting used to. feels like someone puts a thumb in your eye. but, you should see the gunk that comes out. I used it for awhile in my vision recovery program, and will use it again when i have more time. one of these days. Thanks John, that makes all the difference re price. JV.   [End]
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