Hi, I’m new to eat right 4 your blood type and have a question..... i’m alittle confused as to why wheat would be an ”avoid” while ezekial bread would be a ”beneficial.” one of the main ingredients of ezekial bread is ”sprouted wheat.” Thanks, LIsa   [End]
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question for you, owen.... what blood type are you? (i notice that the ’eat right for your blood type’ info says miso is better for some blood types than others. thx Lisa   [End]
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Telman, how many flushes did it take you before you noticed that strange sensitivities reduced? i have done maybe 10 or 11 flushes and have gotten out less than 1000 stones total. have done well getting emotional things but not too many stones....   [End]
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Hi, price wise its alittle more. they say to throw it away but we haven’t and puss-puss didn’t have any reactions. it comes straight from the vet - a regular pharmacy doesn’t carry it - so its easy cuz there’s no prescription.   [End]
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why don’t you have an open text box where people can fill in their ’other responses?’ while that would seem to be more work for you to read them, at least you wouldn’t have any other ’other’ responses.   [End]
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Hi, my cat has been diabetic for 8 years... she’s 15 years old! we had her on humilin n insulin and she took 6 units 2 times per day. humilin is made from humans.... we switched her over to pzi and she’s down to 2 units per shot. pzi is made from pigs. its so nice to see her down to 2 units.   [End]
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they work with the angels, and so do i.... i think most healers do!   [End]
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technically i’m not really answering your question. its not physical results i can testify to but rather that liver flushing helps flush old ’toxic’ patterning and not just stones. i’ve been on a healing journey since i’ve had some accidents in 2003. i’ve not worked since then. i’ve been working with healers trying to get to the bottom of my health situation. a pattern of emotional abuses? during childhood shows up, which i had completely ignored as an adult. i’m actually amazed that i walked around healthy (and sane), given what was inside of me. my personality was split and part ...
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Hi Believer, nobody here on curezone is a professional, although many may work in the health care field. people have worked on curing themselves... they speak from experience and knowledge gained. telman has made great points. i want to point out that there is a thyroid forum and there are many natural supplments on the market and many things to do for it, as alternatives to synthroid or pharmaceuticals. here’s the link to the thyroid forum http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=25 i kept a thyroid blog when i was working on my thyroid... http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=375& ...
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i think most people drink apple juice on the days leading up to the flush and eat normally during that time(at least that’s what i do).   [End]
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congratulations on your successful first flush and colonic. i hung around the eczema/psoriasis forums for a time, when i thought i might have it (it didn’t turn out to be eczema, but rather a reaction to a drug that i had taken). from reading that forum i learned that: there are 2 sets of folks on those forums that have been successful curing ezcema/psoriasis. 1) the edgar cayce protocol. cayce stated that psoriasis/eczema are due to the same cause, a thin intestinal lining (in today’s parlance, leaky gut) which lets undigested food out into the bloodstream, where they essentia ...
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i stopped taking so much epsom salts and my nausea got much, much better. 1 take one dose in the evening - 1/2 the recommended amount. i don’t take a second dose.   [End]
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”I cannot see my symptoms disappearing for good after the last stones are released” slider, i think this is a hint that liver flushing is not the only therapy that is needed. have you considered doing something else in addition to flushing? there’s a gazillion things out there - healers, herbalists, acupuncturists, EFT, bowen therapy, working with the angels/mystics (don’t knock this one), naturopaths, etc. etc., etc..... liver flushing fixed andreas but it does not fix everyone completely. different keys fit different locks. Lisa   [End]
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my brown and black cat has dandruff too... i started feeding her a barf diet (by nature’s variety) and it went away within 1 week. unfortunately we couldn’t keep up the barf diet because our other cat has ’special diet’ needs, and her dandruff came back within a few days. Lisa   [End]
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if you overdose on epsoms you turn white and break up into little pieces :-) no seriously i have never heard of anyone overdosing, although plenty of people have had unpleasant reactions to it.   [End]
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if you overdose on epsoms you turn white and break up into little pieces :-) no seriously i have never heard of anyone overdosing, although plenty of people have had unpleasant reactions to it.   [End]
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personally if that were me, i’d consider going to the colonic hydrotherapist and get a colonic. some people don’t need them, and others swear by enemas. personally i go all the way, esp. if there are symptoms of toxic reabsorption, or just some added stress after the flush. remember it takes more than one or a few flushes before your body has dumped a bunch of sh*t, and gotten used to being cleaner, so in the beginning your body is still the ’dirtiest’ and has lots of stuff to give away. that’s the way i look at it....   [End]
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i’m no herbalist but i do know that parsely is a diuretic, and watermelon seed tea is a kidney cleanser.... i’m not sure if they go well together. so if that were me, and i were having pain, i’d take a break from the parsely and watermelon, and see if the pain goes away. personally i had good success using andreas’s kidney tea, and i took that after the first 4 flushes. i’m due for another serving of it. Lisa   [End]
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i think it depends how you tolerate epsom salts. i don’t tolerate them well, and i don’t ever take them the next day after a flush... i just go for a colonic and its been working for me.   [End]
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i think its up for grabs whether eating almost no fat the day of the flush helps get more stones out. i mean one flush has you eating ice cream before the flush - and that one works.... so obviously the whole ’no fat’ thing is questionable... personally i’ve eaten no fat on flushing day and had a stoneless flush. i have also eaten fat the day of, and these were successful flushes. the only thing i haven’t tried yet is to have a conventional breakfast - eggs and such - and had that one work. i’ve only had non successful flushes on standard american breakfast days... Lisa   [End]
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from what i’ve seen on this forum and have experienced myself, liver flush success seems to go in cycles. some people continuously release stones from the beginning, but not everyone. i’ve seen other people, like myself that released stones at first and then took a break and had no-stone flushes. then a few flushes later stones start again. so don’t worry about the break; its normal.   [End]
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wow, not stoned. i’ve done 9 flushes, 4 or 5 of which produced stones. just now on the last one i did, i got sludge out - for the first time. so now, after 9 flushes, i regard myself as starting to REALLY cleanse the liver. the first bunch i did were the warm ups. (maybe i got 300 stones total). so.... i never do them closer together than 2 weeks. i believe that it does take the liver time to recover, and putting it through too much at one time is just too much trauma. so i wait.... every 2 weeks, or every 3 weeks, or every 4 weeks, whatever seems right. and inbetween i do othe ...
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How are you doing? i’ve ’messed up’ the directions with no adverse effects.... i did my last flush at 5am because i was feeling nauseous all night from the epsom salts. it was a nice flush, got loads of stuff out. i’ve done just about everything you can to do the flush recipe to mess it up - it made no difference in outcome.... sometimes i had no stones when i followed directions perfectly, sometimes lots of stuff when i totally ignored the directions... Take care! Lisa   [End]
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lots of people do enemas instead... personally i always do 1 colonic after the flush, not one before. its worked fine. my personal opinion - enemas only go so far (pun intended) and so they don’t really do the job.. colonics go all the way up to the beginning of the large intestine, so they’re a better bet. but, some people are fine without doing a colonic. i think i’ve gotten alot out of them (again, pun intended).   [End]
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i think the flush is the parasite control...   [End]
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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.unbc.ca/nlui/wild... http://ryoko.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/fasciola.html   [End]
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Hi Roxy, hannas advice of not rushing into things without reading is very good, and also Northern Girls too - it takes time to do the flushes... and to get results. and liver flushing doesn’t work wonders for everyone, although those who stick with it usually have profound results. the thing is that liver flushing seems to work with a variety of ailments - it affects the whole body over time. the people who seem to get instant results are the ones that have classic gall bladder attacks. i’ve done 8 flushes, took a 4 month break to explore other health regimens, and have missed th ...
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44 liver flukes on the wall, 44 flukes on the wall.... if one of those flukes would happen to fall.... 43 liver flukes on the wall. don’t know if you sing that old song in england, but its the old ’99 bottles of beer on the wall’ song i didn’t take any herbs, just some apple juice for a few days before the flush. i guess their number was just UP.   [End]
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thanks C.F.... i was so bummed that i didn’t get out any stones! so isn’t it all just perspective :-) ... of the 8 flushes i’ve done, i got stones out on 4 of them, just the first four. after that i had 3 flushes where no solids came out, and then this one. i want the stones to be next! the interesting thing is my wedding ring officially doesn’t fit any longer. its too big. i wonder if there’s been some low level swelling that i’ve been unaware of? i haven’t lost any weight, in fact i’ve gained 20 pounds from my low. so the ring thing is kinda weird.   [End]
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i just did a flush and laid down flat on my back without my head raised.... the flush worked fine.   [End]
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you couldn’t pay me to put any electricity anywhere in your body. andreas’s viewpoint of the body - eat right, get plenty of sunshine, and flush is much more gentle on the body than hulda clark. my advice is to throw your zapper out. i just did a flush and got 44 liver flukes out.   [End]
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well if you don’t poop, of course nothing will come out... but... they could have been released from your liver and just made it out the door yet. don’t worry about no stones coming out on your first flush, that’s normal. Lisa   [End]
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well after 4 months of not doing a flush, i did my first one... 8th one total. some sinking green stuff came out, along with 44 liver flukes! but no floating stones... Lisa   [End]
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some people that have had problems getting started take herbs from http://www.sensiblehealth.com to help them get started. julia chang is the website owner, and she says that chinese bitters can help unblock the stones... personally i didn’t think it added to the amount of stones i got out, but i felt like they were useful for awhile anyway. she has an interesting web site with reading about what each of her herbal tinctures do. Lisa   [End]
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Newbe, recommended 2 to 3 weeks at a minimum between flushes, your body takes time to sort it all out after a flush. some people do it at 4 weeks. Lisa   [End]
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i wouldn’t dissolve them in the body, or even break them up in the body. whats inside of the stones is toxic to the body, and if you break them up or disolve them, you let all that crud out into general circulation. i’d rather get them out whole and unbroken, i think that’s safer and betterer. i think there have been a few people over the year that i’ve been checkout out this forum that have tried to disolve stones with herbal tonics and agents. i don’t personally remember of any people that wrote back that they were successful, other than a few people that had some luck spontaneously ...
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the way to find out is to ask.... ask for the rest of the dream, see a healer, if you meditate (or even if you don’t) there are ways! these are your memories and they are not locked in a vault. if you wish to have help uncovering it, there are healers in every city that can do this. sometimes people who work at metaphysical bookstores will know of someone who can do this. i do know of 2 people that work via phone and can help you if you wish. having lifted 100+ past life memories in the past 2 1/2 years, i can honestly say that i don’t want to know the stories anymore.... i just wan ...
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Hi Deotima, i’ve never been diagnosed with low thyroid, however was on the very lowest end of the ’normal’ range on tests. however, low thyroid problems ran in my family - and i knew i hadn’t escaped it totally! i read all the notes on the thyroid forum here on curezone. i muscle tested myself to see what i needed. i did it in 2 rounds - round 1 - took maca root http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/macaq&a.htm started eating coconut oil instead of butter http://www.mercola.com/forms/coconut_cream.htm did some energy work on my thyroid (with a healer) (my thyroid blog h ...
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Hi Brent, your second note sounds much less worried and more easygoing. so it sounds she’s somewhat better - or at least out of critical mode. is this true? i also remember that in your first note you mentioned dizziness and in this note you didn’t - is it gone then? telman gave you great advice if you think she has a stuck stone; if she’s not improving. it sounds like a great thing that she did a colonic. getting tons of bile out is beautiful. sorry to disagree with the other people that have posted here - but - i don’t think she should flush again in the next few days, and ...
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from what i’ve read, sharp pains white bm’s mean a stone can be stuck. hanna gave you great advice - a colonic could be helpful....   [End]
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when i hear that a doctor has criticized something like a liver flush, i don’t think ”well, they don’t make any money so they’re blasting the flush.” i think, ”they didn’t learn about flushes and alternative treatments, so its not in their bag of tricks to take out.” doctors are drawn to medical schools because the things they learn there make sense. if alternative methodology and healing made sense to them going in, they would have become naturopathic doctors instead of medical doctors. Lisa   [End]
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for it... after taking colosan for 5 days my natural urge to poop disappeared, and it took 8 months of herbal laxatives (fiber based). then finally that really stopped working for me and i spent $400 working with Kam Yuen, doing chinese medicine to get my urge to poop back. i’m happy to say everything is working very well now. i don’t believe that every product works well for everyone. i also don’t believe that a product can screw up someone that didn’t have a hint of a predisposition for a particular problem. Lisa   [End]
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the greatest scientists are artists... there is no science without inspiration and knowing when to apply knowledge, which is also art. Lisa   [End]
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congrats on doing a successful flush! i get dull aches for a few days sometimes after the flushes. the flush really is doing something... so its normal to be alittle sore. especially since you did 2 flushes in one. sometimes newbies make (the mistake, in my opinion), of flushing every few days. i think they’re just not used to the flushes, so they mistake normal after-effects for dire consequences. so... unless you get sharp pains.. no need to rob your body of its recovery time by doing another flush too soon. you did something really good for your body, so you can feel good about ...
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couldn’t help but notice the humor here in that someone with the name ’sunnybuns’ was asking this question :-)   [End]
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way to go continuum! i know some people have had great luck with the normal wormwood tincture, but i’ve had great luck with pumpkin seeds... worms hate them. (and they have alot of protein, have 18% of vitamin k requirements, and loads of minerals). i think its lovely that you got out such a thing :-) Lisa p.s. here’s some of the nutritional info on pumpkin and squash seeds per 1 ounce Protein Tryptophan 122mg Threonine 255mg Isoleucine 357mg Leucine 587mg Lysine 518mg Methionine 156mg Cystine 85mg Phenylalanine 345mg Tyrosine ...
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thanks for sharing! don’t bite my head off when i say (this is just my personal opinion) that doing that many flushes within a year or less just sounds like too much. your liver knows how to make bile without doing flushes... anyway i’m not trying to be punitive or anything - i mean, here i am asking you about your situation, and i’m not trying to pass judgement on it. Anyway, thanks for sharing, Slider... Lisa   [End]
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Hey nico, just curious... how much did it increase your parasite releases by? was it very noticable? and, how many drops of the tinctures did you use? thx, Lisa   [End]
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hi slider, i know this has been mentioned before in some of your notes ... is your health having positive improvement with that flushing schedule? this is how i calculate (guestimate) it - eg... if a 50 year old has 10,000 stones = 200 stones were made per year if a 30 year old has 6,000 stones = 200 stones were made per year if a 30 year old has 8,000 stones = 266 stones were made per year if a 60 year old has 5,000 stones = 83 stones were made per year the worst case here makes 266 stones a year, which is clearable with flushing 2 or 3 times a year... and of course, i ...
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only you and your hairdresser know for sure. :-) personally if that were me and i felt ready to flush, i wouldn’t wait just cuz a naturopath said to wait for an equinox. the moon goes through its cycles every month, and so once a month (my opinion) there’s always a moon cycle to glom on to. if you check out the continuum force’s recent post, she (i think) flushes on the new moon. i flush a few days after the full moon. here’s a link that the continuum force started very recently about this! http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=447&i=29046 http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=447& ...
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hi legacy, personally i use ’selectrolytes’ by morin labs. its a clear liquid (that has a taste) that you add into water... my first flush i had a week of fatigue but the second flush, and thereafter, i used selectrolytes and that solved my problem. i found out about selectrolytes by a naturopath that i have great trust in, so i feel like its a safe product. http://www.morinlabs.com Lisa   [End]
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I know i keep saying this, so forgive me if i’m repeating myself... there is one brand of olive oil that i really trust. i know they put no hydrogenated oils or any diluters of any kind in it.... http://www.barianioliveoil.com there’s a little video on their site about how its made. its family run by a family that came over from italy and wanted to make olive oil ’the old way.’ Lisa   [End]
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if you’re getting worse after flushing, colon cleansing means an actual colonic. i’m amazed at the numbers of people who post on this forum that don’t do colonics - and then ask why they might be getting worse. here’s some prior threads (from the ask andreas forum) in regards to this. http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=447&i=26458 http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=337&i=11824 i’ve found that what everyone has said about electrolytes is true, too. after my first flush i didn’t take any electrolytes, and i stayed tired for a week. after my second flush i took selectrolytes by ...
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"Sounds like only good can come from it." Like anything else, it has to be managed.  if you to liver flushes too often, or without paying attention to cleansing out the bowels (colonics after flushing), or the kidneys (kidney cleanse tea a la andreas) then you could indeed over or undermanage the situation with undesirable results.   i’m a big one for ’sticking to the rules’ as written by andreas.... i do colonics after every flush, and i do kidney cleansing tea every 4th flush.   here’s what andreas wrote about the subject - http ...
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the liver flushing is big thing, so imbetween flushes i either leave it alone and let it rejuvenate on its own, or sometimes i take chinese bitters herbs from http://www.sensiblehealth.com. i’m not sure if i’ll be taking them in the future, it seems like its just too much for an organ to constantly be targeted for cleansing or rejuvenation. it was ok for me to take chinese bitters inbetween flushes for a while, but now that i’m at #7 it just seems like my liver would like a rest inbetween. your diet is such a personal thing, nobody here can tell you what to do. people can say what w ...
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Your posts remind me of a very good friend of mine that is going to get her gallbladder out next week "just because they can’t find anything else wrong with me--they found stones so it has to be my gallbladder." AND I can’t get her to change her mind, to do a flush or anything. Ideology is ideology and you can’t change other’s beliefs (unless they are open to change). i know how frustrating it is - i have a friend’s friend that was diagnosed with M.S. recently.  she took off from work so that she could "have some last quality time" with her children ...
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Hi there, personally i would not recommend this for the first flush... doing something new like this is a big deal! i’d get your flushing legs wet so to speak before taking the 2nd drink plunge. Lias   [End]
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thanks for the great picture, telman. one thing i always thought was kinda strange was that some stones travel from the liver to the gb. (supposedly the stones that are tan on the outside and green on the inside originated in the liver and moved to the gb, per andreas). but if you look at the picture, its sortof an uphill climb from the common duct to the gb. so i wonder how the stones ’swim upstream’ from the liver to the gb.   [End]
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thanks for sharing, ribbot. now aren’t you just alittle tempted, next time a doctor tells you he’s amazed at your results, in telling him how you did it? (and even showing him a little baggie full of stones). Lisa   [End]
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midge and i are on the same page. you should do what you feel you should do. doctors aren’t versed in flushes, they didn’t learn them in school and therefore they don’t know anything about them. doctors did learn about prescription drugs, and surgery, so that’s what they prescribe. if you want drugs and surgery, do that, if you want liver cleansing, do that! but don’t ask people that do liver flushes whether you should do surgery, and don’t ask doctors & surgeons whether you should do liver flushes! Lisa   [End]
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everyone is different. personally if that were me i’d go get a colonic. when things don’t go according to plan (like the swelling you’re talking about) then i go back to the basics, which for me means following andreas’s advice of doing a colonic after every flush. there are others who answer this forum that don’t think a colonic is the best way to go. and i agree, if someone is getting better without them, just by doing the flushes - that’s fine. but when there’s trouble the first question i ask is whether the person has done a colonic. Lisa   [End]
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sorry to be slow here but i don’t get it! are you and janaki different id’s for the same person? or are you just saying that you’re connected as in bringing forth some of the same aspects. sorry, i’m missing the point, i’m not sure if you’re being literal or not when you say janacki is you.   [End]
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when people have side effects like this from liver flushing, i always wonder if they 1) did colon cleansing prep work before flushing (like a colonic, or oxypowder, or the blessed herbs cleansing, etc). 2) did a colonic afterwards 3) liver flushing is a big deal in itself- the body needs time to recover... so to me zapping in close proximity to a flush is too much. that’s over and above my personal opinion about zapping which is that is sucks and is dangerous. (yes, i know other people don’t agree here). Lisa   [End]
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here’s the link http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=447&i=29197   [End]
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Hi Telman, i know you wrote a note recently where you posted the pictures of the white stones that you released... can you point me in the right direction to it? Thx Lisa   [End]
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hi pinkcat, the white stones are supposed to be the end of the stones; but... the little tiny white parasite eggs are something different than the white stones. telman recently posted some pictures of his white stones... i’ll look for the link. so far i haven’t found it. Lisa   [End]
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hi bk, i like andreas’s kidney tea flush, i had good results with it. its at http://www.ener-chi.com under supplieres. sounds like you’re pretty in touch with your body, that’s a great thing.   [End]
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yup i meant to say that lore has it youre near the end of the stones :-) Lissa   [End]
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Hi J, personally before i ever did a liver flush, i did a blessed herbs colon cleanse. i know everyone is different, in that they perfer different products. i did the blessed herbs cleanse to clean out the small & large intestines, as you said. others have done the oxypowder cleanse, but this personally didn’t work for me. after each flush i do a colonic - cleansing out the colon of the gunk that came out during the flush. i’ve kept thinking ’gee, i oughta revisit the blessed herbs cleanse,’ now that i’ve had 6 or 7 flushes done, in order to keep working on the small intestine. ...
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Andreas says that when you get to the white ones, you’re near the end. Lisa   [End]
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from what i understand, the tan stones are stones that originated and stayed in the gallbladder, until the flush. stones that are green on the inside and tan on the outside originated in the liver and migrated to the gb. green stones on the inside and out originated and stayed in the liver until they were released in the flush. Lisa   [End]
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for people that have bowel issues, like colitis, cleansing the bowel can be important. doing a colonic or two before liver flushing to clean out the colon, and colonics after every flush, would clean out the colon so that sludge & toxins from liver flushing can actually make it out of the body. before i did a liver flush, i prepared by cleansing the colon first. if you just do liver flushing, without paying attention to the bowel, the toxic stuff will just sit there and aggrevate the prior condition. here’s some prior curezone posts about this issue... http://curezone.com/forums/ ...
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Hi Jasmine, i’m sorry you had a crummy visit to the doctor. doctors tell people to do surgery because it is all that they know, its what they learned in school. they don’t know about liver flushing, about eating right, about drinking good water and eating off of non-toxic pans. they don’t know about healing modalities - acupuncture or the bowen technique. so i usually put their advice in perspective - ok - they’ve said something - now what is the truth about it? the body is capable of healing, is my truth.... surgery not required until i say so. I follow Andreas’s stuff as far ...
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i do think the cheap stuff will work for the flush, but as far as putting good things in the body, i’ll go for the purest. i use bariani olive oil because it is hand harvested by the bariani family by shaking the tree, and the oil is extracted the ’old way,’ - so its not even ’expeller’ pressed, its cold pressed. and there’s no additives. there’s the little video on the website (www.barianioliveoil.com) that you can watch that shows how it is made. its a small family run company that doesn’t distribute much out of california, and i call them to order it, and when it comes in the mail ...
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Hi Ribbot, i get myself worried about the details too. i just want to get it right and help myself, and i’m always questioning what exactly is help, what is this, what is that..... so i do understand that completely! i don’t know specifically what andreas means when he talked about not doing colonics doing ’damage to the intestines.’ i guess in a general way its the toxicity from the flush itself that would be damaging if it weren’t released with the colonic water. it sounds like you’re bummed that you haven’t improved after doing the liver flushes? but also that you haven’t gotten wor ...
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i’ve done them after, every time, but never before. doing 2 colonics in 3 days just felt like too much! the ’after’ colonic seemed like the more important of the 2. i’ve watched and read lots of notes over the months.... there have been a few people that reported getting worse over time instead of better, doing liver flushes. one case in particular involved a man with m.s. who did liver flushing for a year and he got way worse. he hadn’t done any colonics. from what andreas says, people with m.s. have bowel issues to begin with. so.. people who have any predisposition to bowel pro ...
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Yes, you’re right--forgot about that one. But I eat only whole grain products so I couldn’t eat it anyway :) White flour is too harsh for my liver.   [End]
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Hi Midge, i’ve never met a licensed naturopath that does colonics, and i’ve never met a colonic hydrotherapist that’s been to school to become a naturopathic doctor. so... my guess is - she’s mainly a colonic hydrotherapist that ’dabbles’ in the field of natural health.... so ignore her! :-) Lisa   [End]
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hi frosty, i don’t know if juice fasts help the kidney or not... when i did the kidney tea i knew that it was doing something, cuz i itched alot in the kidney area. so it was obvious that it was working. just out of curiosity for myself, have you ever done bowel cleansing or colonics since you’ve liver flushed? Lisa   [End]
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Hi frosty, are you’re following the whole protocol (i use andreas’s), which includes keeping the organs of elimination open during the liver cleanse process? if so, chances are greater that it is just a healing crisis. keeping the organs of elimination open means doing colonics after every flush (andreas says to do one before and after each flush, but i don’t know of anyone that does this). also andreas recommends doing a run of kidney-cleanse tea every 3-4 flushes. so... my first question to you would be, do you do colonics? and, have you done a kidney cleanse yet? if you haven’t ...
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i’ve read some postings from people that were used to using grapefruit and then tried lemon - had very favorable results. i’m properly awed that you want to use lemon juice. i’ve heard that it doesn’t mix with the oo and so can be harder to take. Lisa   [End]
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butwhy, just have to tell you how much i love your curezone name! brought a big smile to my face. :-) as everyone above said, stop flushing if 1) you feel like its doing you harm 2) you feel great and don’t want to do it anymore (I know i’ll get some boo’s on this one) 3) you’re all done getting stones out like everyone else that responded to you i only do it monthly... 2 weeks is too often for me. my body needs a break where it forgets what flushing is all about, a rest period inbetween. Lisa   [End]
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thx, telman! i so agree with you, prednisone is nasty stuff, and i will never ever take any prescription drugs again. that was the second time in my life i took a prescription drug, other than very short runs of antibiotics in my life. and i certainly learned first hand how prescription drugs are not the answer. now when people call doctors experts on things, i think of my prednisone experience and think of what a dead-end the whole medical thing is. i prefer to do other things to heal, and for that prednisone taught me something very precious. however.... i do warn other people ...
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hello fantastic, fu**ing fantastic flush (I couldn’t resist putting an extra f word in there :-) and i think its great that you did it with others! its a flushing party! you’re not alone in having memories & images come up. i’ve had them come up during almost every flush, along with emotions as well. sometimes the images pop up with no emotions attached; sort of a detatched feeling. but, other times there’ve been emotions with no images. so... you’re not alone there, this is a normal thing. the liver holds emotions, and patterns of thinking that i think get stuck there as we ...
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Hi telman, just curious - when you were mentioning that people’s skin has cleared up starting around the 7th flush or so, what types of skin problems were they? were they acne or premature aging? i’ve always had very young looking skin. then i took prednisone (18 months ago) and it aged about 20 years within 2 months. the thing is... it has never returned to normal, and its really bothering me.. Thx, LisaG   [End]
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i found that the classic eft statements were good, usually. but on this one i was stuck. and with this particular thing, i just started feeling so frustrated... like i didn’t want to keep doing these eft statements anymore. as far as getting rid of symptoms with eft in general, i’ve never found it to be lightening quick as it is for some, and at times i have been frustrated with it. but for me its a tool in my tool bag, and i do use it. and yes... i found doing eft on the ’finished result’ to be very helpful. this is the area that i thought it did the best at, as far as symptoms go ...
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just to respond to your note re chiropractors, not all chiropractors do it the hard away... chiro’s that do soft adjustments will be listed in the yellow pages that way... i’ve had soft adjustments and hard ones and the soft ones win by a mile. and osteopaths do more gentle manipulations, but they can get the bones in too, and i think they’re less well known. osteopathic referall pages - http://www.aoa-net.org/index.cfm http://www.cranialacademy.org/search.html?Submit=Accept   [End]
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my first flush sucked, i was weak for a week afterwards. the second time i took ” selectrolytes”  by morin labs (www.morinlabs.com) and this helped tremendously. i know fasting is supposed to be so good for you (depending on which stuff you read) but personally - can’t do it. and doing a fast and then straight into a liver cleanse - i know people do it but - too much! esp with it being your first flush. they’re not all like that, and my guess is that if you do it again, you won’t go into it straight from a master cleanse.  as telman said, please keep us updated and let us know ...
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i just did the tapping while i asked for help for god. i didn’t really use the standard statement - i just tapped while saying that i was calling in god to help with this issue. i’d tried the normal statements (for a few months) and didn’t feel like they were going anywhere, so i tried this something new and it worked. that was actually the start of my not using the standard statements. lately i’ve been adding what i want to call into my life - whatever it is that i want - i’ll say ’how nice it is that i already have xyz.’ for instance if it is money - then i’ll say how wonderful it ...
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one order (2 8oz bottles) lasts about 3 months. the only ingredients i know of are wild ginseng and detoxified iodine, but i know there’s other stuff in there. if you’re interested, email steve. making these formulas is his passion, and he’s more than happy to converse with you about it. i don’t feel comfortable posting his email on this forum, but if you’re interested, email me and i’ll pass it on. regarding the expense - the ingredients are definitely picked with extra care, worked on by only one person who uses cayce’s directions on how to make it. so... its not your average prod ...
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great, great answer, cure-ious george. i think you’re very wise. nobody else can answer the question really, for you. the asking of the question will lead you on the search for the answer. i think ’truth’ is a moving target, since growth is a moving, living, thing with life force of its own. i mean, truth changes as we change, and i think this way that truth has of altering over time is actually the way of god. i think there’s not one right or wrong way to be (ie., straight vs gay) in the human or other earthly races. in essense, all viewpoints are correct in some way. which me ...
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ask him! (or her). why would god tell someone else and not yourself? and i bet - if you get an answer like ”its not ok” its just your fear talking. i do believe you’re wired gay because that’s what your soul wanted for this life. 10% of all animals are gay - why would humans be any different? being gay is just part of being alive as far as i’m concerned.   [End]
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eating no food at all the day of the flush isn’t recommended. just as ribbot said - no food after 2! apple juice has made me nauseous at times, i think its cuz the pectin grabs stuff in the bowel and does some cleaning action. i drink the apple juice in the 3-6 days prior but don’t cram the day of the flush (its like cramming for a test at the last minute). a normal dose of epsoms gives me that sick vomity feeling after taking the oo. cutting down my dose of epsoms helped alot. in fact the one time i didn’t take any epsoms, i didn’t have the slightest bit of nausea. some peopl ...
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well the thing i noticed was that my kidneys itched when i took it. i didn’t take the whole amount, i took it for a few weeks and then stopped.   [End]
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no its not necessary. giving your body a rest before the cleanse sounds like a good idea though. Lisa   [End]
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Hi Midge, the person in the above note mentioned NAET. there is another somewhat similar allergy elimination technique called NMT. http://www.neuromodulationtechnique.com/whatis.cfm with these 2 techniques, you go through the course, and cut out all the allergic foods - for a time. then after the course is done, you add the foods in one at a time. both protocols are ’energetic’ in that they do work with certain pressure points of the body. there are people that do energy work that alter allergies (invincible mentioned that in one of her notes, she does a type of work and hopeful ...
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i think toxic junk is - the obvious sh** that municipalities put in water the obvious chemicals that food companies put in their food or anything else that touches your body (health care products) the obvious chemicals in the air (car exhaust) the obvious ones are bad for everyone *** the non obvious ones are things that are just bad for a particular person, they aren’t toxic by their nature for everyone. this would include eating food that goes against your body type (kapha, pitta, dosha in ayuvarda), or eating food against your blood type (if you follow the blood type diet ...
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Hi Lisa, congrats on treating the add without meds. the liver flush is alot the first few times, but it gets easier. there is a psoriasis forum here on curezone. i’m a big edgar cayce fan. edgar cayce said psoriasis is due to thinning of the intestinal walls which lets partially undigested food out into the blood stream, which the body then attempts to get out thru the skin. the psoriasis forum is full of testimonials of people that have used cayce’s protocol successfully. also, ”auntie” has had alot of success curing this. cayce said eczema and psoriasis are both from the same ...
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everyone is different and everyone’s speed is a bit different. i do only one cleanse at a time and give the body time to rest inbetween. i would never do a parasite cleanse at the same time as a kidney cleanse at the same time as a liver cleanse, esp. along with the bowel cleansing that should accompany the liver cleanses. way too much! everyone is different. what i did- 1) prepared for liver cleanse by doing a 5 day blessed herbs bowel cleanse - (www.blessedherbs.com) some people use oxypowder or colosan instead. 2) grape fruit seed extract for a few weeks (to kill candida ...
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have any of you ever heard of tom benedict? i found this story to be so inspirational. http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html Mellen-Thomas Benedict’s Near-Death Experience Mellen-Thomas Benedict (www.mellen-thomas.com) is an artist who survived a near-death experience in 1982. He was dead for over an hour and a half after dying of cancer. At the time of his death, he rose up out of his body and went into the light. Curious about the universe, he was taken far into the remote depths of existence, and even beyond, into the energetic void of nothingnes ...
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mostly i follow andreas who says- no parasite cleanse necessary (body will take care of parasites with a clean liver and if clean lifestyle rules are followed) he wrote a book about healthy living practices - http://www.ener-chi.com only start liver cleansing with appropriate bowel cleansing, otherwise you can make the situation worse (colonics after each flush, plus some people do colosan or other magnesium based cleansing.) personally i do the colonics religiously after every flush. kidney cleansing every 4 flushes - see his website at his website under suppliers, if interest ...
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since hanna mentioned andreas, he does do consultions, as well as sacred santemony (healing chanting) which i thought was good). you don’t need to be armed with info when you go to the doctors.  you won’t be able to sway them - but at the same time you don’t have to do what they ’recommend.’ if you feel surgery is right to take the tumors out - then follow your gut. if you feel its not right - they can’t force you. so.... what to do? if that were me i’d probably try some non-supplement type things.... a colonic or 2 (i can’t take bowel supplements happily either), and rabbit-l ...
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seems to me this man has some control issues - doesn’t like and likes being in control. likes being in control - taking you from behind. doesn’t like being in control - won’t initiate sex or respond in any obvious way while you are the agressor. is he trainable? only if you share with him and he is willing to share. i wouldn’t want to do all the work either! my husband is pretty naturally quiet and too, and personally i’ve always thought it was a bit of repression (catholic upbrining & all) - but maybe not, maybe people are just made differently. so.... bottom line - do you lo ...
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yup, the flush can still work. there aren’t always stones on the first try, so if you don’t get stones it isn’t necessarily from throwing up. i’ve thrown up immediatly after drinking the mixture, and hours later, and still got stones out each time. i cut down on the epsoms salts by 1/2 or more, and have stopped throwing up ever since. i’ve had much more pleasant flushes with less epsoms. some people take peppermints after taking the mixture to cut down the nausea, i’ve heard good reports about that. others have taken alkaseltzer gold or ginger for the nausea. so... don’t lose ...
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sometimes the best thing to do is wait. the fact that your shoulder pain left for a short time is an indicator that you are on the right track. it is totally normal to have the symptoms come and go throughout the cleansing process, at the beginning. flushing once a week is too much. some people benefit from doing colonics/enemas after flushing to get the yuck out. if you had acute pain in the liver/gb area that would indicate a stuck stone. in that case a flush would be called for. but you don’t have that, so flushing one week later isn’t necessary. andreas says to flush no more ...
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Hi Baxter, congrats on doing your first flush. the green sludge could indeed be from the liver, or it could be undigested stuff from the green drink. i’ve taken chlorella at times, and it does turn my poop green. i’ve also noticed when i eat tons of squash, my poop turns alittle orange, and sometimes the texture does change as well. so its not really obvious whether your green sludge is stuff being released from the liver, or sludge made of the green drink itself. it could be either one. i know there are herbal combos expressly for the liver (ie. the schultz liver formulas), but i’m ...
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Hello Solid, (sorry, i can’t call you weeble) That’s really unusual to pass 100 stones that are not green on your first flush. totally awesome. Congrats Lisa   [End]
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edgar cayce recommended an herbal formula for a man who asked what could cure his graying hair. there is a company that makes the formula... my husband tried it - he’s on his third bottle now. its working. the hair on the back of his head is almost black (was more than half grey). the strange part about it is how its working - its not making all hairs turn black again at the same time, but is going by location and working its way around the head and body. the hair on the back of his head has been almost completely restored to his black color (which is just incredible to me), while the ...
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your statement that ’there is a reason why i’m on them and i should therefore continue’ doesn’t make sense to me. you are on the meds because you went to doctor and that is what he/she knew to do for your problem. it doesn’t say anything about whether its best for your body to be on them. eg., i went into a doctor for a skin problem - i walked out with a bag full of prescription trial medications. i knew the doctor was on the wrong track - cuz i’d developed the skin condition as a side effect when taking another prescription drug. i realize the doctor was just doing what he was tra ...
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i don’t know what to tell you about this in regards to taking meds the day of the flush. but i wanted to point out this note which was on the liver flushing documenting health effects forum. its about someone who flushed and found that their high blood pressure condition was cured. http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=565&i=469   [End]
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Hi, Happy New Year! Is there a way to get out of the image slideshows gracefully, and back to the curezone homepage? its kinda awkward, i’ve been deleting part of the url to get out of the slideshow. did i miss the easier way to do it? Thanks, LisaG   [End]
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calcium tenses muscles, whereas magnesium relaxes them. so while i haven’t had to take magnesium for gb attacks, i would think that straight magnesium (any type)without calcium would work better.   [End]
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i did the blessed herbs cleanse twice, both for 2 days. it did the trick for me; i had a very positive experience. http://www.blessedherbs.com just like you i was aware that i needed to do some sort of a bowel cleanse before starting to flush. it didn’t seem right to clear the liver out into a toxic colon. i do colonics with every liver cleanse and nothing else. Lisa   [End]
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Hi Debbie, It wasn’t clear from your note whether you’ve been alternating between the 4 herbs, or taking them at once. I don’t believe you’re supposed to take all those herbs at once. i believe its at most 2 at one time... Lisa   [End]
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how do you know you have a fallen bladder? did a doctor diagnose that, or is that a diagnosis you arrived at based on your symptoms? there are exercises specifically for bladder problems; i remember i took a yoga class once where the teacher concentrated on them. they involved having the legs spread apart and doing squats like that; i don’t remember the whole thing, or the exact exercise. their aim was to strengthen the pelvic muscles. then of course there are the more well known kegel exercises http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/922988755.html Lisa   [End]
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Hi, The colonic therapist is always supposed to stop inputting the water whenever you say. you control that. if a therapist ever doesn’t do what you want - make a complaint to the manager and never go back. but, i’d be surprised if this ever happens! anyway.... i always do the colonics on the 2nd day after the flush. if i flush sat night then i do the colonic monday, or at the latest, tuesday. i’ve never had the gas bubbles that you describe, but i certainly have had the discomfort. i’ve found that the discomfort is proportional to the amount of stuff that’s coming out. inva ...
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i personally wouldn’t do a liver flush if i were nursing under any conditions. i don’t care that people say that ’the baby is fine.’ liver flushing is a process not just of releasing physical toxins, but also of releasing emotional toxic patterns, from what i’ve experienced. i wouldn’t do it while i’m breastfeeding a baby. i’d do something gentler like eating better and cutting out eating all sugar and rotten stuff. i’d concentrate on eating really well, and getting as many nutrients into the baby as possible. releasing toxic sludge and old toxic emotions seems like too much for a ...
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now midge, why is surgery your first answer? come on now, you are the cheering section on the liver flush forum! :-) don’t lose faith in the first quarter. I read a story about a man that had a bladder condition all of a sudden - and it turned out to be that he had just bought a teflon pan. he stopped using it and the problem disappeared. have you considered andreas’s kidney cleansing tea? The kidney’s dump into the bladder, and so if there’s a problem at the bladder, then cleansing that whole system might be good. andreas recommends doing a kidney cleanse every 3 - 4 flushes. ...
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andreas recommends doing a kidney cleanse every 4 flushes. his kidney cleanse is listed at http://www.ener-chi.com, go to the ’suppliers’ page. i used it and it is wonderful. when you say you have kidney trouble, what do you mean? do you mean you’ve been diagnosed with kidney issues from a doctor? anyway, this kidney cleanse is powerful. i just take a few ounces of tea per day, less than andreas says. as with anything each person’s response is different, so if you do the kidney tea, go slowly at first and make sure your body likes it. i’m just putting this disclaimer in since its ...
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you, and only you, decide how many flushes to do. some people say to flush until your liver is completely clean of stones - which i’ve heard in some cases happens in 6 or 7 flushes - others do upwards in the twenties before they stop getting stones. but... there’s no rule that says you have to flush until all the stones are gone. some people flush a few times, feel a tremendous lightening of symptoms, and don’t feel the need flush again. flushes do tend to get easier with repetition, as far as recovery time goes, and many people go to work the next day, once they get some experienc ...
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Q3. When you get a feeling of heartburn or nausea after you’ve taken the OO/GF mixture and are tossing and turning all night trying to sleep, is that an indication that you either have a worm-ridden liver or there is an especially large gallstone which is gumming up the works? no, some people just get more nauseous than others. i take about 1/2 of the recommended dose of epsom salts and that has cut down on the nausea quite a bit. according to andreas the nausea is as a result of the bile coming with a bit of force back into the stomach after leaving the liver. many people stay nau ...
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the one i used and thought was fantastic was andreas’s kidney cleanse tea. his site has more information about it, at his http://www.ener-chi.com website and under ’suppliers.’ he recommends doing a kidney cleanse every 4 flushes. the tea made me itch in the kidney area, so i knew it was working. good stuff. Lisa   [End]
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don’t tell ’em. just do what you think you need to do to fix it. you don’t have to tell the whole truth about everything (that’s what i’ve learned, anyway). what i do in the privacy of my own home is my business - and if that’s drinking olive oil once a month, that’s my choice. however much you decide to tell people - that’s cool. its certainly your choice whether to share all the truth, part of the truth, of none of it. Lisa ps. tests never found anything with me either. i don’t think standard tests catch much in all cases. i have found things with more off-beat testing, do ...
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never say never, but i have never seen a true emergency as long as i have been reading this forum. nolongerhurting published that she had to have emergency gallbladder surgery in response to a flush and that turned out to be a hoax. there was another woman who had white bm’s for a few days, along with pain - that cleared without even doing another flush. capco is the only person i know of in recent history that went to the hospital and actually had something done; the doctors surgically removed stones from his common duct (without removing his gb). he continues to flush, his experience ...
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so the doctors checked for the heart thing? (just asking to make sure). i’m sure its significant that its worse at the end of the day. the 2 thing you don’t do over night are - move alot; lift anything, eat anything. so.... are there any movements that exacerbate it? does eating/not eating during the day affect it in any way, for better or worse? does taking magnesium make it better? is it back to normal this morning, or still worse for a morning? just want to make sure - bowel movements are normal and not very pale or white? have you had it checked out by a chiropracto ...
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i noted that too, hally. maybe you didn’t notice in the body of my note that i let him know about that... take care, Lisa   [End]
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Hi, I noticed a bug on the liver flushing forum.... if i posted a note with no text other than the subject line, it didn’t get posted. this was true when replying to a note, or generating a new thread. i didn’t get a note saying the note was accepted, and it didn’t show up in the forum. .... just putting one letter in the body fixed it. Lisa   [End]
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What ”gall bladder herbs” are you taking? Have you done any liver flushing? Are you on a low fat diet? The fact that you released gall stones after eating a big quantity of ice cream (assuming it has fat it in as do all but non fat ice creams) suggests that your gall bladder was working well enough to expell stones in response to a high fat food. I don’t know what a ”gall bladder attack” is, but to me it seems wonderful that you have expelled stones. When I do liver flushing I always include a big serving of high fat ice cream on the night of the flush, and my gall bladder also ...
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what i get out of what telman said is that there is a feedback loop which helps us regulate the right amount of bile production, and that a congested body or liver can upset this loop. Telman knows the names of the compounds but its not necessary to get the gist. this reminds me of the time that andreas said that the reason one we get cholesterol buildup in our arteries is that when the liver is clogged, the feedback loop gets altered... the feedback loop there is that the liver makes cholesterol, but when the liver is congested, it no longer gets the message that there’s enough choles ...
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Hi Amiga, EFT is the emotional freedom technique which involves saying the symptom you are dealing with, and tapping some meridian points on the face at the same time as you are talking. symptoms can be physical or emotional; ie., fatigue or anger, or anything else that you want to work on. here’s the site for eft... there is a handbook that they download for free, that describes it. it can also be done with eft practicioners too, which are listed on that site as well. http://www.emofree.com Take care, Lisa   [End]
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No, please! no sorry’s necessary here, believe me - i was impressed by your reading material. i meant it in a nice way. i didn’t get the OTT part, that must be an english-ism (i’m american). Lisa   [End]
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Hi Telman, i just posted an abbreviated form of your questions to Andreas, on his forum. just wanted to let you know in case you wanted to add anything. Best, Lisa   [End]
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Hi Andreas, Telman of the liver flush forum asked some great questions, and i was wondering if you could shed some light on them. the question is what the relationship of the gb to the liver is... does the gb act as a resevoir for the liver’s bile? a. What is the different in the functions of the liver bile vs gallbladder bile? Is it the same type of bile? b. Which kicks in first, does the gb release its bile before the liver produces its own flow when fatty food is detected in the gut?, Or, does the liver produce a flow of bile first? Thx, Lisa   [End]
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where else would we go when we leave our bodies at night? i’m trying to imagine the answer to my own question :-) and not having any luck imagining anywhere else that we would be likely to end up. i don’t know about you, but in lots of my dreams i have parts where i’m leaving heaven, or the place where i was while i dreampt, and going back down the elevator, or escalator back to earth. so that tells me i’ve been somewhere different. i sure don’t believe in hell, so that wasn’t it. Lisa   [End]
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that we have nde’s every night, when we sleep. Lisa   [End]
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actually there is a bowen practicioner in columbia, in case you ever feel the need. Lisa   [End]
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