I’d be curious to find out the realistic statistical ”upper dosage limit of Iodine”, people in these high natural fluoride areas can take, before they run into detox (etc.) trouble. Then correlate this with the total amount of fluoride they consume and then also with their inadequate iodine intake levels. Also then add in Soy and derivative products, and so on. From the isolated studies I’ve read so far, people in these areas should not be able to tolerate as much iodine as normal, for example, as in Japan. Or in persons properly detoxed from other areas. Realistic logic and statis ...
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”Water fluoridation found to increase hypothyroidism risk by 30%” https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-04-05-water-flouridation-found-to-increase-hypothyroidism-risk-by-30.html   [End]
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out of context and misleading.....   [End]
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People are not buying that false narrative any more. Quotes to decent reliable information sources would be better.   [End]
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You ask a ’trick” question... How much iodine one can take, whether with hashimoto’s or not, is also dependent on how much soy, fluoride, green tea etc. one also takes. Other toxins and conditions also. Include the combination of these...... and all the other stuff. The answer for one person would be totally meaningless for another. The effects of the above is explained in available iodine related literature. But you know this already, as it’s been mentioned before, on this forum including info links etc.   [End]
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” Now, in 2017, a study has come out in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives concluding that fluoride doesn’t only damage the intelligence of children when consumed after birth, but also damages the cognitive ability of children when consumed by the pregnant mother.” http://www.thedailysheeple.com/latest-study-on-water-fluoridation-again-links-it-to-lowered-childrens-iqs_012018 Yet another reason to avoid fluorides, whether in green tea or tap water.   [End]
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”...data suggests that Ashwagandha increases serum concentrations of thyroid hormones; thus, one case study states that excessive hormonal effects, or thyrotoxicosis, may be quite a serious side effect of the root. This may mean that those suffering hypothyroidism will temporarily suffer hyperthyroidism and vice versa.” https://www.naturalnews.com/032025_Ashwagandha_thyroid.html ”When she takes ashwagandha, she feels jittery and a “hyper” feeling inside.” ”I have Hashimotos and have tried Ashwaghanda but it made me feel anxious and my chest heavy with heart palpitations. Later I ...
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”...soy consumption can suppress thyroid function and cause goiters in healthy people, especially elderly subjects.” https://www.verywell.com/soy-and-the-thyroid-3231800 Adding iodine into the mix after the fact, would be a...   [End]
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”I have a magnetic personality, is that why I taste so good ?” ... magnetic personalities are attractive to the opposite sex ??   [End]
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Green Tea Might Make Thyroid Problems Worse ” Because of the effect green tea’s catechins may have on the thyroid, experts at Precision Nutrition, a nutrition- and exercise-coaching company, recommend that people with thyroid-based autoimmune disorders such as Hashimoto’s syndrome, a type of hereditary hypothyroidism, avoid drinking green tea and taking any dietary supplements containing green tea extract. The catechins in green tea may cause an imbalance in their immune system’s T cell and B cell antibody responses, possibly resulting in more severe thyroid disorder symptoms. ” ht ...
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In other words, between the tea, water and soy, you (and your forum buddies if they exist) have poisoned your systems to the point where you would get ongoing detox from any quantity of iodine. Given all the high quality online info available, on the dangers of this, you still blame iodine? Sounds like a BP troll job to me. https://www.acneeinstein.com/fluoride-green-tea-concern/   [End]
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The RDA for fluoride is 3mg. Do you want us all to take fluoride also? Do YOU take this much fluoride daily?   [End]
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The hairpin trigger level effect, where there is barely enough of an allergen or poison NOT to cause a reaction would not end with soy. Other poisons or allergens could be included also. ALSO... These ”trigger levels” would not all be stable forever. If the body system becomes depleted, or sick or other factors change, then symptoms would start appearing (or go away) until the body heals or fixes or changes itself back to ”normal”. Again: The trigger levels would not necessarily be stable or remain the same. Also, varying amounts of different poisons or allergens would affect ot ...
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soy is considered a “major food allergen“... https://farrp.unl.edu/soy-lecithin ”Thresholds can be defined as the maximum amount of an allergenic food that can be tolerated without producing any adverse reaction.” https://farrp.unl.edu/thresholds-for-allergenic-foods This is just perfect, and how BP operates. Soy everywhere, with a percentage of the population just at the ”trigger point” of experiencing allergic reactions. Thus any random thing might cause symptoms, which come and go, with doctors trained not to acknowledge the cause. Does this somehow sound familiar? ...
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”Organic sunflower lecithin is the best in supplement form. Or, just eating lots of quality eggs.” https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/lecithin/ Do you know if you or anybody else you recommended soy lecithin to, has a soy allergy? Did you ask, or even mention this? Why do you recommend specifically soy? There’s LOTS of info online on warnings about soy products and why BP and industry likes it.   [End]
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Do you take soy products? My post was directed to the effects of soy & the thyroid etc. You seem totally intent on blaming iodine for something, everything, no matter what. Does it even matter whether you take soy products or not?? Obviously trying to downplay soy’s effects, blaming iodine all the way. hmmm... A BP troll would do this.   [End]
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Soy Lecithin can affect the thyroid and alter the requirement for iodine. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16571087 There’s lots of info on this online... https://draxe.com/what-is-soy-lecithin/ After reading some of this stuff, is it possibly you guys are experiencing soy poisoning yet still blaming iodine? I’ll refrain from suggesting the obvious, wrt soy and BP.   [End]
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Here is that Lugols calc spreadsheet uploaded to the curezone image gallery: https://www.curezone.org/upload/Knowledge_Base/Lugols_calc_small_012.xlsx I hope it all works, please let me know if not or if there are any goofs etc. A perhaps dumb personal comment from myself, on the one week on, weekend off schedule is the off time might not be long enough? Maybe it’s good also. Or, maybe occasionally insert a longer off time cycle? Let the body think there’s no more iodine coming, just to see what you will experience if you have to quit for some reason. I’m also thinking of ca ...
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Hi Gnomesb, Wishing you the best. There certainly is a broad range of knowledge on curezone. I can’t help you with the details you mention, but my own 2 cents could be: Would there be any value in ”pulsing” the iodine dosages? For example, After 1 or more days of iodine, stop taking iodine for a few days and repeat the cycle. This would allow the body to equalize the iodine, perhaps reducing any possible toxic impact or thyroid reaction from ”long term” iodine dosages. I don’t know if this is a good or bad idea in your case, but it has been my method until now. The other thi ...
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You do have good links... This forum has been overun with the idea that hashimoto’s leaves absolutely NO salvation regarding iodine, and that ALL will have thyroid problems no matter what else they do. AND... if you disagree with this, you are a bad stupid person. Some messages are from ”long term” BP (?) oriented participants... another bunch of stories here. Interesting coincidence you would show up particularly at this time, if you ARE a real person, my most sincere apologies and welcome to this forum. Either way, Your links are good... thanks for the info !!   [End]
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If you are following Lynne Farrow’s book, why not ask her? Also, this message sounds like yet another clone from the BP guys.   [End]
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I’m a newbee compared to some of you guys, so this might have been addressed already, or ? The obvious question: Can pulsed Iodine be used as a symptom indicator trigger for insufficient manganese and B1? If so, under what conditions? The idea is to use curezone resources to develop a realistic or updated method to avoid or minimize the damage from ”iodine roulette” as the ”Sur quacks alot” guys on this forum describe.   [End]
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The link you posted is trying to push synthetic hormones. Big pharma again?? You have an interesting opportunity to derive a pulsed iodine regime which would enable at least some of the small percentage problem guys, to get the iodine levels they require. Instead you seem DESPERATE to BLAME iodine for something, anything ?? AND, scare the remaining 99% off with fear etc. Twisting and distorting as you go, double talk etc. hmmm... if it quacks like a duck... Should i dub you ”SUR QUACKS ALOT” ?? or... are you guys (the bunch of you BP guys) going to start documenting the ...
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Jumping to conclusions is not good... there is not enough information given to figure out Steve’s situation. Only clues. Could be Grave’s, coincidentally but also his symptoms of anxiety etc. could be unrelated poisoning of some sort. An alternate question: How many people who come down with some severe type of disease or condition, coincidentally have also taken iodine or iodide... having nothing to do with this disease, condition or poisoning. AND... then how many would then ”blame” the iodine/iodide for this? Big pharma would, and even twist everything out of context to do s ...
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The article you quote does not exactly support your previous statements. Here is an article which describes realistic results for the general population, Without any vitamin supplements. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1638306/pdf/envhper00309-0035.pdf   [End]
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”... 1 mg iodine can even be to much ...” Can you provide any credible research results on this, or related studies? Some of these messages sound more like big pharma propaganda than legitimate info. This type of stuff is becoming more common lately, throughout the internet and main stream media. Now... even on curezone?   [End]
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Hi Trapper, I thank you for your comments and insights. How do the magnets help and with what? And... if anyone else has any experience or observations on magnets wrt iodine, please share !!   [End]
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The 12 Steps Recipe for 5% Lugol’s 200 mL Rev 0.1 1. Obtain a clean, empty 250 mL glass amber boston round bottle and black cap. (wash everything with hot soapy water & rinse with small amounts of distilled water) 2. Carefully measure exactly 200 mL tap water into the bottle. 3. Level bottle, then mark water level with permanent marker & cover mark with clear tape. 4. Empty & rinse bottle with a small amount of distilled water. 5. Add about 150 mL distilled water to the empty bottle. 6. Weigh & add 20.00 grams of potassium iodide. 7. Cap bottle & rotate/shake until d ...
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Hi Chipper, Now... THAT is the question !! The reason I continue to use magnets is it improves lugol’s taste. When I add 3 drops of my 5% to about 2 cups distilled water, I can’t taste the iodine. It could be I’m used to it by now or ????? Others in my household say the same thing about the magnets, as well as from what I’ve read on this forum. I’d need to experiment more to know for sure… and about other effects also. Also the Cayce Atomidine recipe(s), in that if it came from Cayce, there has to be something to it, even if ”we” don’t know what it is (yet). I only found out ab ...
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The 12 Steps Recipe for 5% Lugol’s 200 mL 1. Obtain a clean, empty 250 mL glass amber boston round bottle and black cap. (wash everything with hot soapy water & rinse with small amounts of distilled water) 2. Carefully measure exactly 200 mL tap water into the bottle. 3. Level bottle, then mark water level with permanent marker & cover mark with clear tape. 4. Empty & rinse bottle with a small amount of distilled water. 5. Add about 150 mL distilled water to the empty bottle. 6. Weigh & add 20.00 grams of potassium iodide. 7. Cap bottle & rotate/shake until dissolved. ...
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Good suppliers will provide, if requested, a manufacturer’s name along with a “Certificate of Analysis” for the Iodine and Potassium Iodide they use in their Lugol’s or SSKI etc. ACS is preferred… which becomes apparent when comparing ACS and USP certificates. The certificates bear a manufacturer’s name along with batch or lot numbers. These numbers are matched to the batch or lot number(s) on the Iodine crystals or KI powder bottles. Each batch will have a different batch or lot number. My own opinion is that, I’d rather deal with a small “unknown” Lugol’s mnf that CAN provide verifia ...
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We have been drinking distilled water for about 30+ years. Used to use a polar distiller and still have it. But now we get it in 5 gallon jugs from the grocery store. More convenient, and actually tastes better is all. After a few years, the body clears itself of chlorine, and tap water begins to really smell and taste really bad. The body then craves really clean water and it becomes VERY delicious especially cold. We drink more water than before. Lots of usual stuff on distilled water, taste wise like coffee or frozen orange juice in a blender, for example !!!! I’ve been even venomously ...
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Hi Trapper, all, I certainly agree the different magnet configurations as you mention are worthy of experimentation and testing. Also, there are other ”clues” reported which could be further investigated, for example the drop size difference, and the reported increase in iodine solubility as per ”that patent”. Trapper, I’d be honoured if you let me send you a couple of free holders for your own use and experimentations... no strings attached. Magnets included if you want them. My way of giving back a little bit to someone (yourself and this forum) who have contributed so much to al ...
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A series of magnet holders usable for magnetizing Iodine solutions. Available without or with magnets. Very handy, we use them daily in my household. Being in a holder, enables larger magnets to be conveniently and safely used for Iodine magnetization. We just leave the bottle in the holder, and remove it only when we want iodine. http://bushmaniodine.ca/MagRat/MagRatPage.htm   [End]
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I’ve been using an assortment of Neodymium magnets on Lugol’s 5% 25 mL bottles. Various sizes, 2” x 1” x 1/4” or 1/2” thick. Also 50 x 25 x 10mm all using a variety of prototype 3D printed Magnet Holders. Pull strengths from about 40 lbs to about 90 lbs. Very satisfactory and convenient arrangement, much much safer than taping or attaching these magnets directly to bottles. Magnetized iodine seem to almost eliminate the iodine taste... as others on this forum report.   [End]
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Wikipedia lugol’s page adds both I and KI percentages to get the overall percentage. For example, ”our” 5% would be listed as 15% on this page, both with identical concentrations. Most of the rest of the industry only uses the Iodine content on the label (ignoring the KI percentage). The UK Lugol’s seems to use the Wikipedia method. Additionally, they used 100% instead of the ”75%” (76.45) for their KI to I conversion. Kind of sloppy also, the percentages are a bit off within 2% or so. In other words, this 3% Lugol’s is really 1% the way J Crow (for example) labels theirs. Also, ...
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