Here is the web address for a site that explains how gallstones are formed. http://www.chemeng.drexel.edu/faculty/spw/SPWfacultypage.htm Kinetics and Mechanism of Gallstone Formation Gallstones are essentially large crystals of cholesterol found in bile (Gr. chole , bile; stereos , solid), an important biological fluid. Bile is secreted by the liver and contains bile salts, which are needed for digestion of lipids, plus the phospholipid lecithin, a primary constituent of cell membranes. The gallbladder stores bile between meals, and gallstones result when cholestero ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Congrats on your improved health. Thank you for sharing your story with us.   [End]
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I have had similar chest spasms aswell and was wondering if anyone would actually give me a freakin reasoneble answer to what’s causing it. Whoever the doctor is that runs this site better give us suffering people a better answer than telling us to go see a doctor to get certain things tested. Maybe if he knew how we felt he would give us a more thourough answer instead of relaxing on his beach house and giving us random places we could go instead of here to figure out our problem. I know probably know one will e-mail me but please if anyone has the actual answer to my and the first guy’s ...
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Physiologically the liver can produce and store thousands of stones since there are about 50,000 bile ducts in the liver. So as strange as it seems on a intuitive level, it is possible to flush out thousands of stones. As to the stone size issue, bile ducts expand so large stones can form. The best evidence I know of is first hand experience. I thought the folks on this site were mistaken after believing Dr. Michael Murray’s assessment that liver/gallbladder flushes were just juice and oil. By simply doing a few flushes, the variation of what comes out will show you that it is not ...
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No only about half of the flushes result in stones for me. When I do get stones out, usually I get less than 30. I estimate that I have eliminated only about 600 stones total so it will take me a while to get my liver cleaned out. Fortunately I noticed improved fat digestion after the first few flushes. One of the reasons that I have done so many flushes is that when I started, I flushed every week. That is probably too aggressive for most people. I flush every 3-4 weeks now. Hang on to your gallbladder.   [End]
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How long does it take to form a stone in the bile ducts? I have done 25 flushes and still getting out stones. I wonder if they are forming faster than I get them out.   [End]
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JUST FINISHED MY SECOND FLUSH. AND LIKE I AM READING IT IS GOING LIKE TEXTBOOK OF WHAT I HAVE READ ABOUT THE SUBJECT SO FAR. IT DOES SEEM THAT THE STONES DO GET BIGGER AS YOU KEEP FLUSHING. I JUST PASSED A STONE THAT WAS THE SIZE OF A MEDIUM WALNUT IN A SHELL SO TO ALL OF YOU THAT ARE READING THIS AND HAVE NOT TRIED IT YET PLZ DO....YOU WILL BE HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE ..   [End]
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I appreciate your difficulty with sleeping. I have had chronic insomnia for over two years. It has been my hope that liver flushing and bowel cleansing will help with my insomnia. While the flushes/cleanses are helping with digestion and energy - insomnia is still a problem for me. I have had my hormone levels tested. I am working on those areas to facilitate better sleep. Whatever you do, keep cleansing/flushing and searching for the answers that are right for you. Kind Regards, Scott   [End]
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Here is the web address for a site that explains how gallstones are formed. http://www.chemeng.drexel.edu/faculty/spw/SPWfacultypage.htm Kinetics and Mechanism of Gallstone Formation Gallstones are essentially large crystals of cholesterol found in bile (Gr. chole, bile; stereos, solid), an important biological fluid. Bile is secreted by the liver and contains bile salts, which are needed for digestion of lipids, plus the phospholipid lecithin, a primary constituent of cell membranes. The gallbladder stores bile between meals, and gallstones result when cholesterol precipitate ...
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Andreas Moritz does paid consulting. His website is something like www.ener-chi.com. You should be able to find it using a good search engine.   [End]
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Yes, 30 flushes is a lot. I talked with Andreas Moritz, author of the ”Amazing Liver Cleanse” yesterday. He told me that the reason I haven’t got more stones out from the flushes is that my colon is backed up and recommended colonic irrigation which should produce more stones. I don’t prepare specifically for the flush other than heated massage over the liver area nighly.   [End]
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I posted this question before and no one responded. Thought I would try again. What is the mechanism that causes the ”bile” taste in your mouth when the liver/gallbladder are congested? I just want to understand the physiological mechanism at work here. I still get this taste in my mouth. After almost 30 flushes I am still getting out stones. I don’t get many out at a time (sometimes none) but they are still coming and I still have symptoms. Thanks.   [End]
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I just use a soft-heat pad from Kaz. It is a fairly good size so it cover the entire abdominal area.   [End]
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I just use a soft-heat pad from Kaz. It is a fairly good size so it cover the entire abdominal area.   [End]
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I have read that ”bile” taste in the mouth is one of the clearest signs of liver/gallbladder congestion. I did another flush last night (28th I think). I got out about a 1/2 cup of tan, waxy sludge. I think using the heating pad so regularly have helped soften the stones down to sludge instead of coming out as stones. Just speculating here. I still get the bile taste in my mouth which tells me that my liver and gallbladder are still highly congested so I’ll keep flushing. Could anyone help me understand what is the physiological mechanism that allows one with liver/gallbladde ...
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The flushes have been very beneficial. Still have symptoms of impaired digestion, gallbladder attacks etc., but the improvements are vast and get better with each flush. So don’t give up-keep flushing...   [End]
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This is what I have done to improve the flushes: Improved diet to include less junk food (though not perfect), more natural fats, more veggies, a green drink, and Primal Defense. Added Apple Cidar Vinegar 3 Courses of Gold Coin Grass and one of Cucuma herbs Shultz Liver/GB herbal (3 courses) Beet and Black Radish suppelement and a few other plant fats from a nutritionist. Heating pad and liver massage nightly. I think some livers/ballbladders are more cogested than others and more sluggish which makes thier decongestion and repair take a while. But progress is progress, ...
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This is what I have done to improve the flushes: Improved diet to include less junk food (though not perfect), more natural fats, more veggies, a green drink, and Primal Defense. Added Apple Cidar Vinegar 3 Courses of Gold Coin Grass and one of Cucuma herbs Shultz Liver/GB herbal (3 courses) Beet and Black Radish suppelement and a few other plant fats from a nutritionist. Heating pad and liver massage nightly. I think some livers/ballbladders are more cogested than others and more sluggish which makes thier decongestion and repair take a while. But progress is progress, ...
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Since I have done so many flushes, still have symptoms and have only expelled a total of about 500 stones, I keep doing the liver flush and trying new ways to improve them. I did the Claude Lewis Liver Flush flush (from this site’s pages) this weekend. I used 2 cups of oil mixed with juice spread out over a couple of hours. The next day all I got was 3 tiny brite green stones. I was disappointed that more didn’t come out. Then sometime in the afternoon I had a gallbladder attack. So I did another flush with a half cup of oil mixed with juice to try to push out the cause of the att ...
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A number of folks have mentioned that they cannot tolerate Epsom Salts so they flush without them. Doesn’t this increase the risk of stones getting stuck and blocking the bile ducts? It was my understanding that flushing is made ”safe” against stone blockage because of the Epsom Salts. Any comments would be helpful. I dislike the Epsom Salts but have assumed they are a necessary discomfort.   [End]
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See salt will not relax the bile ducts so it would not achieve the same effect as the epsom salts.   [End]
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You can purchase Bile Acid supplements that will achieve the same result (I think). Perhaps worth a try. No matter what, make sure you keep flushing. Scott   [End]
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Tim, Thank you for your post. I too have have very impressive improvements and I am not stone free yet. My allergies have lessoned significantly and more importantly the constant fatigue I used to feel has lifted. I also digest fats better now. I am not done yet, but now I know how to recover my health and know that I will continue to grow healthier flush by flush. I tried flushing every 10 days at first thinking that I could get more junk out. For me I now flush every two weeks and usually get out about 40 stones every other flush. So this is a slow process for me. My must be ...
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According to Andreas Moritz’s Amazing Liver Cleanse book - floating stools indicate a high fat content in the stool due to insufficient bile secretion and flow. So your guess is right on. Keep flushing...   [End]
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Hi Rachel- As far as I know there is no danger in flushing more often than every two weeks. I flushed every week for a couple of months but since I only got stones out every other flush I changed my schedule to every two weeks. I have done about 25 flushes now and only half of them expelled stones. I will keep going until I am stone free for several flushes in a row. There are potential benefits of waiting every two weeks or longer between flushes. If you liver is sluggish then it takes time for stones to move forward in the liver so flushing very frequently may not produce many ...
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The flush has hugely helped eliminate my allergy symptoms. I am not totally allergy free yet, but I am also not stone free yet - but the improvements are so impressive. Just keep flushing!   [End]
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The flush has hugely helped eliminate my allergy symptoms. I am not totally allergy free yet, but I am also not stone free yet - but the improvements are so impressive. Just keep flushing!   [End]
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The flush has hugely helped eliminate my allergy symptoms. I am not totally allergy free yet, but I am also not stone free yet - but the improvements are so impressive. Just keep flushing!   [End]
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Everyone’s milage varies. For some people, frequent flushes work. For me, I have to wait at least two weeks between flushes to get any stones out. Even then sometimes a flush results in no stones. I flush every two weeks and get stones out usually on every other flush. The more sluggish your liver and gallbladder, the longer it will take for stones to move forward enough toward the main ducts to be expelled. Experiment and see what works best for you. Just keep flushing on a regular schedule until your liver is clean.   [End]
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The Role of Gallbladder Emptying in Gallstone Formation During Diet-Induced Rapid Weight Loss Reference: Gebhard, R.L., Prigge, W.F., Ansel, H.J., et al., ”The Role of Gallbladder Emptying in Gallstone Formation During Diet-Induced Rapid Weight Loss,” Hepatology, 24(3), 1996, pages 544-548. Summary: The following information is available at Pub Med. Obese persons are at risk for cholesterol gallstones because their bile is saturated with cholesterol. The risk increases during rapid weight loss by means of certain very-low-calorie diets or gastric bypass surgery. Gallstone risk ...
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I haven’t used Proactiv, but I had acne as a teen. Whether you continuing using it or not, liver/gallbladder flushes will help your acne.   [End]
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Hi Lisa- You may be on to something there. 20 flushes is a lot. I have wondered the same thing so I have tried a number of things to speed the flush along. I have tried chinese herbs, Malic Acid, Apple Cidar Vinegar, lecithin, homeopathic remedies. One thing I am about to try is parasite zapping before-hand which I have not yet done. Maybe this will help. Thanks. Scott   [End]
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I don’t have experience with Hep C, but I have read numerous accounts of flushing eliminating the condition. Many of those accounts are posted on this site. The liver flush is profoundly beneficial - please continue to use it.   [End]
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For me the benefits have been great. Still have some remaining issues. But here are the improvements so far: Less emotional/moody elimination of severe fatigue - I have more energy than I have had in a long time. Improved digestion Reduction in allergy symptoms Keep flushing - it works!   [End]
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For me the benefits have been great. Still have some remaining issues. But here are the improvements so far: Less emotional/moody elimination of severe fatigue - I have more energy than I have had in a long time. Improved digestion Reduction in allergy symptoms Keep flushing - it works!   [End]
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I’ve done flushes at various times. Even did one where I sat up instead of laying down the first half hour after drinking the oil/juice. Got good flush results there. Having done over 20 flushes (not all of which expelled anything) it seems to me that the most important issue is time between flushes not which recipe you use. Your experience may be different but I think that if you don’t allow enough time between flushes, stones haven’t moved forward enough to be expelled, it wont matter whci flush you use. Even though I have done over 20 flushes, I still have symptoms so I will get go ...
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I have been liver flushing for a while and have gotten some definite benefits in the areas of improved energy and digestion. My skin however is still rashy and I get acne on my arms and back. It may take a while, but I know I’ll get there. Keep flushing. It is definitely worthwhile whatever your health concerns.   [End]
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There are a lot of people on this site more qualified than I to make remarks about Hulda Clarke’s work. In some ways I think Hulda is really ”out there” but in other ways I think she is really on to something. I consider myself lucky to have found out about the liver flush. My energy level increase, improved fat digestion, decreased incidence of moodiness, and reduction of allergies is all the ”proof” I need. A ”cure” for someone is a ”cure” whether they ”zapped” themselves or read the tarot cards. We all have to do what we feel is right for us. If one thing doesn’t hit the mar ...
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For those aksing about liver massage. I do the following: compress the lower right ribcage a number of times a day - not to hard, but enough to see and feel movement. When I do this I taste more bile in my mouth - a good sign that I am helping move bile. massage the liver at night with an electric muscle massager. Edgar Cayce wrote about the benefits of liver massage for sluggish livers. This should help. To our health, Scott   [End]
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I have done about 20 flushes and only about half expelled anything. Highly congested livers take more cleanses and more time to move the stones forward. Just keep at it. Do another flush right away and then wait for a few weeks and do another. It takes time. I’m looking into ways to speed up the process, but haven’t found any quicker steps yet. Flush, flush, flush!   [End]
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I massage the liver with an electric massager as well as simply compress the lower right rib case area several times a day. When I do this I notice an increase of the bitter taste I often get in my mouth. The benefit of the massage is that it helps keep bile flow moving and works the sluggish liver a bit.   [End]
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Thanks David, thats Fantastic, and really handy to know for future use. Thanks again Scott   [End]
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Thankyou Southern Belle, is that really true? The liver flush is the one i think would have most impact for me, i cant wait to try it even more now! Scott   [End]
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thanks Jean, i do try and get out to the local park soemtimes at lunch, but this doesnt really help me :(   [End]
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Hello, I was wondering if anyone can spare a couple of minutes to help me. Basically, ive been reading up on this cleansing, and everything on this website for a month or so now. Ive done some big diet changes and am doing the parasite cleanse, and am about to progress to the other cleanses. I just want some reassurance really. My main problem seems to be a constant tension inside me. My breathing is always very shallow, it is really uncomfortable, and i was hoping someone could help me and perhaps suggest any specific cleanses to help this? I’ve had my problems in the past, ma ...
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Here is the web address for a site that explains how gallstones are formed. http://www.chemeng.drexel.edu/faculty/spw/SPWfacultypage.htm Kinetics and Mechanism of Gallstone Formation Gallstones are essentially large crystals of cholesterol found in bile (Gr. chole, bile; stereos, solid), an important biological fluid. Bile is secreted by the liver and contains bile salts, which are needed for digestion of lipids, plus the phospholipid lecithin, a primary constituent of cell membranes. The gallbladder stores bile between meals, and gallstones result when cholesterol precipitates ...
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Here is the web address for a site that explains how gallstones are formed. http://www.chemeng.drexel.edu/faculty/spw/SPWfacultypage.htm Kinetics and Mechanism of Gallstone Formation Gallstones are essentially large crystals of cholesterol found in bile (Gr. chole, bile; stereos, solid), an important biological fluid. Bile is secreted by the liver and contains bile salts, which are needed for digestion of lipids, plus the phospholipid lecithin, a primary constituent of cell membranes. The gallbladder stores bile between meals, and gallstones result when cholesterol precipitates f ...
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I have recently upped my dose of Primal Defense (soil based organism -probiotic) and have noticed these white string-like things. Parasites?   [End]
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I have found the liver massage to be very helpful myself. I believe that the reason you feel sick is that the massaging is helping the liver dump toxins and the ”toxic dumping” may be occuring too fast which is why you notice it. You may wan to taper off a bit for a while, but I would take this a good sign of a ”healing crisis”.   [End]
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nobody has any idea ??? come on, help a brother out....   [End]
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Hello there, does anyone from the UK know where i can get any of the ingredients for Dr Clark’s Kidney cleanse from? I would go ahead and order from the www.NaturalHealthSupply.com on Hulda Clarks website, but the shipping cost to the UK is an absolute fortune. There MUST be an easier way!! Also im looking for the bentonite clay. Thankyou and Regards, Scott   [End]
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If you flush too frequently stones will not come out as they have not had time to move forward in the liver to be expelled. I had this problem myself. I did over 10 flushes before anything sunstantial came out because I flushed too frequently. Flush every 3-4 weeks and massage the liver area regularly to help move the stones forward.   [End]
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I too was discouraged after doing over 10 flushes. If your liver and gallbladder are very congested like mine - it will take a while but it is worth it. About about 17 flushes my allergies are lessoning and my energy is improving. I still have some symptoms so I will keep flushing. It will get better. Hang in there.   [End]
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I did several flushes where no stones came out. I had all kinds liver symptoms so I knew the absence of stones didn’t mean that my liver was clear. In fact it meant that my liver was super-congested so it was hard for stones to move around enough to come out. I continued to flush and stones began to come out and symptoms of fatigue allergies bgean to improve. Keep flushing. It is widely acknowledged that anyone who has any illness, probably has tons of gallbladder and liver stones.   [End]
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Try to cleanse every 2-3 weeks. If you do a flush and nothing comes out, you should flush the next day. Until your liver and gallbladder are completely clean you will get something out on your flushes even if it is gravel.   [End]
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If you have hep B and or fatty liver, the cleanse should be considered a must. The cleanse will help heal both conditions and as the postings on this site confirm - that is only the beginning of the benefits you will receive. If you don’t do the cleanse, more damage can result. You have to get that junk out of the liver so it can function better and heal. Light colored stools mean that either there is a lot of undigested fat in them or that you have a stone bocking the bile duct. As you will read on this site, I have had both of these situations as well as fatty liver. Everyt ...
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Hang in there Ronnie. The reason that you feel better after the cleanses for a few days and then worse again is that the stones from the rear of the liver move forward and cause symptoms to re-emerge. As someone who has terrible problems with indigestion and fatigue - I can assure you that if you keep flushing, you will get there. I was researching growth hormone because of my fatigue before I started seeing benefits from the liver/gallbladder flushes. The benefits I have experienced have been wonderful. I am not quite done yet, but I am definitely regaining my health very quickly. ...
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Sounds very plausible to me. So keep flushing!!   [End]
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Kelly, I am happy to share with you the improvements I have experienced. They are: Improved digestion of fats (this is ongoing). Fats used to make me have indigestion and serious fatigue/sluggishness. Significantly more energy. Before flushing I was researching growth hormone because I felt like an old man in a young man’s body. This is the most profound benefit so far. I am amazed sometimes. Significant reduction in allergy symptoms. I used to take medication. In the last couple of years I stopped the medication but still had symptoms. I rarely have allergy symptoms now ...
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Hello. How does a person know they have stones in their liver or gallbladder? What are the symptoms? What causes the stones? Thank you.   [End]
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I have done about 20 liver/gallbladder flushes. Only about half of them expelled anything more than gravel. This probably means that my liver is super-congested. I will continue to flush until all my symptoms are improved. I have noticed very impressive improvements so far, and I am so glad I finally started working on the liver/gallblader. I have read that people should continue flushing on a regular basis until ”clean” and then periodically after that. Most of what I read suggests that for most symptoms to clear one needs to expell 3,500 or more ”stones”. What counts as a ”st ...
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Thanks for your response John. I have read that as people continue to cleanse certain allergies or ailments clear. Not all symptoms necessarily abate in porportion to cleanesing (though some seem to). The more I cleanse the more my ability to digest fats have improved. Some people have noted that specific allergies clear after one cleanse and others clear after later cleanses which confirms somewhat the compartmentalization effect. On the other hand it could simply be a function of older stones are further back in the liver and if they contain an allergen or parasite they will con ...
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Free range eggs are healthy. They help reduce cholesterol and are packed with good quality fats which encourage the production of bile which we all know is a good thing. I don’t drink coffee but I read a study that showed that people who drink lots of coffee have fewer gallstones. The reason these foods produce gallbladder attacks is because they encourage the gallbladder to contract. All fats do that. Cut down on these items until your liver/gallbladder are clean and then consume them if you want. Until your liver/GB is clean fats will be problematic. After your liver/GB are ...
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Before I started liver/gallbladder cleansing my energy was so low that I seriously researched using growth hormone. I am 32 years old and thought that growth hormone was the only thing that would help. Ever since doing the liver/gallbladder flush and massaging the liver, my energy has improved so much. The weakness is probably due to the poor liver being so clogged up. Please don’t underestimate the potential benefit of flushing. Since he already has visible stones, his liver is probably packed with junk. Most stones are made up fat/cholesterol so they don’t show up on ultrasound ...
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Folks who follow this forum know that I have gained substantial benefits from massaging and flushing the liver ande gallbladder. MY ability to eat fats has improved so much. Allergies have also been helped as well as general energy levels. The one thing that has been dogging me for over a year and a half is insomnia. Usually I will fall alseep only to awaken 3-4 hours later and be unable to return to sleep. I have read that a sluggish liver contributes to insomnia in many ways. Before I started focusing on the liver, all fats made me feel sluggish/fatigued/tired. High fat dinne ...
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Folks who follow this forum know that I have gained substantial benefits from massaging and flushing the liver ande gallbladder. MY ability to eat fats has improved so much. Allergies have also been helped as well as general energy levels. The one thing that has been dogging me for over a year and a half is insomnia. Usually I will fall alseep only to awaken 3-4 hours later and be unable to return to sleep. I have read that a sluggish liver contributes to insomnia in many ways. Before I started focusing on the liver, all fats made me feel sluggish/fatigued/tired. High fat dinne ...
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Folks who follow this forum know that I have gained substantial benefits from massaging and flushing the liver ande gallbladder. MY ability to eat fats has improved so much. Allergies have also been helped as well as general energy levels. The one thing that has been dogging me for over a year and a half is insomnia. Usually I will fall alseep only to awaken 3-4 hours later and be unable to return to sleep. I have read that a sluggish liver contributes to insomnia in many ways. Before I started focusing on the liver, all fats made me feel sluggish/fatigued/tired. High fat dinne ...
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Tony- The liver massage I do is very simple. I bought a heating pad from Kaz and a muscle massager from Homedics. Any flat heating pad would do - but I recommend you get a powerful massager. I put the heating pad over the liver area and use the massager on top of the heating pad. I do this for 30 -60 minutes every night while watching television or meditating. Sometimes I’ll do this in the morning too. There is no discomfort of any kind and it has made a huge difference. My ability to handle fatty foods without fatigue/sluggishness just keeps getting better and better. I thi ...
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Thankyou VERY VERY much Cathay, I have emailed them anyway to ask if theres anyway i can get the sea salt in the UK. Thanks again for your trouble, Scott   [End]
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Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but i didnt know who else to ask or where to put it, but does anyone know where i can get a source of unrefined sea salt in europe? I live in england, and all the unrefined sea salt websites i checked out where american with horrendous prices for shipping. Thanks for anyone that can help Scott   [End]
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Thanks John. During the next day I got some more stones out. Only these were tan colored instead of green. Some of them sunk, which means they were probably made of toxins and not so much of fat/bile. I will flush again in about a month. I am definitely going to keep doing what I have been. In terms of how I feel, I continue to be amazed what a difference flushing has made (even the flushes that resulted in few stones.) Even with my early flushes, I became less moody and less depressive. Right before my flushing, I remember feeling depressed a couple of times a day. I thought th ...
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This must have been my 16th flush and finally I got about 30 marble to golf ball sized blobs out. I think this is because I waited a month between flushings, been massaging the liver area and taking some liver supplements. Keep flushing!   [End]
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Flushing in this manner is no more dangerous than waiting for the stones to get stuck on thier own. You can flush and have the possibility of improving your liver health or you can do nothing and have an even greater chance of problems down the line. It is worth the minimal risk to me. I have flushed 15 times without any problems. Since my health has been improving I can’t go without recommending someone try it. At worst you end up in the hospital. You’re more likely to end up in the hospital if you don’t do anything. Those stones aren’t going away on thier own. You have to get the ...
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A few weeks ago I posted a message indicating that I had read that sluggish liver can be helped by massage. I bought a muscle massager by Homedics and a heating pad. Nearly every night I put the heating pad over the liver/gallbladder are and use the massager on top of the heating pad. My digestion of fats appears to be significantly improving. I am not sluggish anymore after eating a fatty meal. I am still going continue the oil/juice flushing. I am planning to do another flush in a week. Its been a month since my last one. I did a bunch of them before, but I think I didn’t spa ...
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I have read a few statements on the internet saying that sluggish liver can be benfitted by massage. Has anybody experimented with massaging the liver to aid in function and detoxification? I bought a muscle massager and I am going to give this a try. I assume I need to be very careful and gentle so as not to damage the liver in spite of what I have read that suggest the massage should be strong and deep. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks.   [End]
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I agree that Hulda Clark’s ideas are out there. To claim that you can cure all deseases (including AIDS) by doing cleanses is a little out there. And yes her credibility in mainstream medicine is non-existent. Some people love her and some think she is a sham. I am undecided. Having said that I do think that liver/gallbladder cleanses make absolute sense. If your liver and gallbladder are not functioning to full efficiency, you will accumulate toxins faster than you can expell them. Even though I have not had the phenominal health results of cleanses yet, I have had some positive ...
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Over the last 4-5 months I have done a cleanse about every 10 days which means that I have done about 15 flushes. I have also gone through 2 bottles of Gold Coin Grass and 2 bottles of Chinese Bitters. I have also done 2 parasite cleanses - (Paragone and Dr. Shultz formula). Several of the flushes resulted in nothing but liquid coming out even though I followed the procedure correctly. The other cleanses usually release about 10-50 stones. If this continues, it will take me 5 years to get my liver cleaned out. I know that I still need to keep cleansing as I have hypoglycemia, all ...
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A well-earned congrats on your test results. Take this as prrof that the changes you made are working for you. A couple of things you are doing can be directly attributed to your improvements. For many people grains are bad news. Loren Cordain, Ph.D has written extensively about this. Also, Sally Fallon and Mary Enig have written extensively about the imporatance of animal fats. Not only are they nuetral in terms of heart desease risk, they are crucial for the functioning of the heart, the liver and hormone production. Most interesting, animal fats help the serotonin receptor ...
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Let me tell you something about cholesterol. a/it is not soluble in water and cannot be absorbed back into the bloodstream b/it can be easily melted, Mp = 21 C (about 70 F) There’re many ways to melt it. I would recommend a sauna or hot bath. Even if it doesn’t melt, it’ll become softer. You might consider to do it a few times to shape it up under heat, possibly break apart. Activities such as jogging or aerobics for 30-40 min will also stimulate cracking this golf ball. On the day of cleansing start to warm up your liver: about 2 pm place wool wrap around your body (old scar ...
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tea tree oil is great for acne, but it shouldn’t be applied directly. It is better to use it with a carrier oil, like organic jojoba. These two together are fantastic for acne, because the jojoba balances the oil in the skin while the tea tree is antibacterial, thereby avoiding acne breakouts. Also, as an added bonus, this would have an spf factor of about 15 due to the jojoba oil. A great all natural moisturizer!!   [End]
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Diets that high in saturated fats are fine as long as the saturated fats are balanced with unsaturated fats with sufficient Omega 3 fats. Work by Loren Cordain, Ph.D. confirms this. Also, Sally Fallon and Mary Enig, Ph.D have challenged the idea that saturated fats are bad. In fact they argue that since the body makes its own fats (saturated fat) it is absurd to argue that the use of cooking oils would be considered healthy. The body incorporate the fats you eat into the cell membranes. Sally makes a case for eating animal fats including butter. I would argue that diets lower in fa ...
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Several years ago before I learned about liver/gallbladder cleansing I would notice that part of my stools were darker than others. This would happen on and off for the next several years. I never thought too much about it. This morning it was particularly interesting. Most of the stool was dark, but part of it was red like clay or brick. I suspect that could be an issue of bile production/blockage? The part of the stool that is normal and dark brown comes from sufficient bile production, whereas the light tan or clay colors happen when bile is blocked. Is this probably what is go ...
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Even if everyone’s theories are wrong, there is no getting around the fact that flushing is beneficial. Even if what comes out of your body is juice and coagulated oil instead of stones(but stones do really come out) you would be getting benefits. Fats and bile transport toxins out of the body. So even if the naysayers were right that what comes out is coagulated oil and juice (and I think they are wrong) you would still get benefit from the flushing. So does it really matter? Just keep flushing and be happy that you are reclaiming your health.   [End]
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For the folks that are revelling at thier improved health who see fit to tell someone who doesn’t agree with you to ”go packing”, you could be missing out on a fantastic opportunity to teach and support. Before finding this site, I too was a skeptic about the liver/gallbladder flush. It was the kind supportiveness that convinced me to try the proceedure, not the people telling me I was an idiot because I bought into the medical establishment line that flushing was dangerous at worst and useless at best. Let’s embrace newcomers and support thier inquiry and skepticsm. We want doub ...
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By all means you should experiment to see if veganism is right for you. Just because it makes your friend feel better doesn’t mean it will help you. A couple of things to keep in mind: Your friend may have been helped simply by the reduction of fat, not necessarily the absence of animal protein. It is very possible to be a meat eater and adhere to a low fat diet. Fat and protein do not need to be mutually exclusive. Many vegans on a low protein, low fat diet will develop failure to thrive symptoms over the long term due to low EFA, vitamin B, and Zinc. Others do very well as th ...
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Andreas Moritz, author of the ”Amazing Liver Cleanse” answered an e-mail of mine regarding questions I had on liver/gallbladder cleansing. Thought folks might find it helpful. In my new edition of the liver cleanse book (it is about three times as large) I also recommend Gold Coin Grass for difficult cases. It is also important to do the colonics, particularly the one after the liver cleanse. I have had quite a few people pass more stones with the colonic than during the actual liver flush. This was due to spastic areas in the colon that blocked the release of the stones. So make sure ...
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Andreas Moritz, author of the ”Amazing Liver Cleanse” answered an e-mail of mine regarding questions I had on liver/gallbladder cleansing. Thought folks might find it helpful. In my new edition of the liver cleanse book (it is about three times as large) I also recommend Gold Coin Grass for difficult cases. It is also important to do the colonics, particularly the one after the liver cleanse. I have had quite a few people pass more stones with the colonic than during the actual liver flush. This was due to spastic areas in the colon that blocked the release of the stones. So make sure ...
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Andreas Moritz, author of the ”Amazing Liver Cleanse” answered an e-mail of mine regarding questions I had on liver/gallbladder cleansing. Thought folks might find it helpful. In my new edition of the liver cleanse book (it is about three times as large) I also recommend Gold Coin Grass for difficult cases. It is also important to do the colonics, particularly the one after the liver cleanse. I have had quite a few people pass more stones with the colonic than during the actual liver flush. This was due to spastic areas in the colon that blocked the release of the stones. So make sure ...
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Andreas Moritz, author of the ”Amazing Liver Cleanse” answered an e-mail of mine regarding questions I had on liver/gallbladder cleansing. Thought folks might find it helpful. In my new edition of the liver cleanse book (it is about three times as large) I also recommend Gold Coin Grass for difficult cases. It is also important to do the colonics, particularly the one after the liver cleanse. I have had quite a few people pass more stones with the colonic than during the actual liver flush. This was due to spastic areas in the colon that blocked the release of the stones. So make sure ...
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Though I still have trouble with fats making me sluggish/fatigued, there has been a definite improvement in my moods. I don’t get anxious or depressed like I used to in relation to foods. This has been a wonderful benefit. I am looking forward to continued improvements in fat metabolism and allergies and reactive hypoglycemia.   [End]
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Thank you for your posts. I have tried using more olive oil but I haven’t tried it without the juice. May give it a shot. I spoke to Prime Health’s Julia Chang this morning. She suggested that the reason not much came out is because a lot of stones are probably clumping together and can’t get out of the ducts. I think her theory may be right on. This morning my stools were clay colored indicating bile duct blockage. I have use the Chinese Bitters and Gold Coin Grass. Julia recommended I try Coptis at nite to further increase bile flow and take Cucuma after a flush that doesn’t re ...
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I have noted that a lot of people who have posted here indicate that they get a lot of stones out when they do a flush. I have done more than 10 flushes and rarely get more than 30 green blobs out each time. Often nothing comes out except fluid. It would be nice if this meant my liver is clean - but I doubt it. I have many of the liver symptoms: allergies, pain on right side, bile taste in mouth, fatigue, difficulty with fats etc. I wonder if the reason I get so few blobs out is that my liver and gallbladder are so packed that there is little room for the junk to move around and ...
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Don’t worry about the fat you ingest during the flush. Even if your body used all of it, it would be fine. Much of it gets ”flushed” out during the cleanse.   [End]
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I have posted two messages that never showed up. Is this board still functional?   [End]
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After using only one dose of Julia Chang’s Chinese Bitters I had the best flush results ever. Got 4-5 times more stones than the previous 8 flushes. I have also started using Gold Coin Grass. As per a discussion with Julia, I am using GCG in the morning before breakfast with the Bitters before lunch. According to Julia, GCG should be used in the short term preceeding flushes. The Chinese Bitters can be used indefinitely, provided that you take a periodic break from them. She uses them everyday during the week and takes a break during the weekend. By the way, Julia is a very f ...
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Anna- I don’t have hep C, but I do have a sluggish liver that was also ”fatty.” You will find many people who have cleansed and recovered from very serious illness. Don’t let them cut you open until you feel absolutely comfortable with it. I suspect that after several cleanses you will wonder why anyone would ever consider surgery. True healing takes time and yet you will begin to notice benefits from liver/gallbladder cleanses almost immediately. To your health! Kind Regards, Scott   [End]
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As soon as my body began the process of healing, I noted the same thing to my nutritionist. My sex drive really picked up. This is probably due to energy that was originally being used for digestion etc., has been freed up toward other areas of the body now. Enjoy and be safe!   [End]
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What is your take on Apple Cidar Vinegar? Some say it is a healthy, detoxifier. Others claim it kills good intestinal bacteria. Thanks.   [End]
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Thanks John. I will keep going. I know I will get through this - I have made so much progress so far.   [End]
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Intellectually I do not support McDougall’s diets at all. They would seem to be dangerously low in protein and fats. So even though I can’t stand the idea that his diet could be healthy - it is my only alternative right now, since I can’t handle fats right now. I do not intend on staying on this type of diet over the long run, as I am concerned about a lack of Essential Fatty Acids. I think McDougall is incorrect in his belief that EFAs are provided by a vegetable plant based diet with absolutely no added fats of any kind. I believe that this could be dangerous. A lack of EFAs is not ...
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For as long as I can remember, fats have made me feel sluggish (though I didn’t know it was the fat until recently). 3 years ago my stools would often be blue (must have been bile). Fat helps keep my blood sugar stable, but then I don’t have any energy, as I feel sluggish. I don’t get the Irritable Bowel symptoms that I used to, but even good fats like nuts and seeds/flax/ and fish fat make me sluggish. So I am left with eating a very high complex carb diet without adding any fat if I want to have any energy. Without fat I get reactive hypoglycemic symptoms (irritability and poor c ...
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Look into the work of Loren Cordain et al. There are some very good websites on Paleolithic Nutrition hosted by and contributed to by serious academic scholars. The Paleolithic way of eating should not be confused with the likes of Dr. Atkins. According to Paleolithic researchers, the lifespan of our Paleolithic ancestors was a long or longer than ours (when you control for ancidents, environmental conditions etc.) I am not trying to convince you to be a meat eater. I am a carnivore who eats very little meat. The simple fact is that we owe a debt of gratitude to those early hunt ...
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Below is an e-mail I sent regarding the liver cleanse to a skeptic and her response. Interesting how even other alternative health thinkers may still think the cleanses are not useful. I hope this trend continues to change as more and more people regain thier health this way. Kind Regards, Scott Hi Scott: Thanks for your email. I do think it is possible to pass gallstones with the flush. It sounds like you did but I think other people mistakenly think they are when they see the green balls. One concern I have is that any true gallstones can get lodged in the duct, which se ...
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I have done 8 liver/gallbladder cleanses and will be continuing to cleanse until my allergies are completely gone, hypoglycemia resolved, skin is clear and metalic/acid taste no longer appears in my mouth. I have been cleansing very aggressively (about every 7-10 days). Not a whole lot comes out (sometimes no stones) but as long as I have symptoms I will continue to cleanse. So far, my allergies have improved, depressive tendancies lessened, digestion has improved, insomnia seems to be finally improving and energy has definitely improved so much. Before doing the cleanses I was s ...
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I have done 8 liver/gallbladder cleanses and will be continuing to cleanse until my allergies are completely gone, hypoglycemia resolved, skin is clear and metalic/acid taste no longer appears in my mouth. I have been cleansing very aggressively (about every 7-10 days). Not a whole lot comes out (sometimes no stones) but as long as I have symptoms I will continue to cleanse. So far, my allergies have improved, depressive tendancies lessened, digestion has improved, insomnia seems to be finally improving and energy has definitely improved so much. Before doing the cleanses I was s ...
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I have done 8 liver/gallbladder cleanses and will be continuing to cleanse until my allergies are completely gone, hypoglycemia resolved, skin is clear and metalic/acid taste no longer appears in my mouth. I have been cleansing very aggressively (about every 7-10 days). Not a whole lot comes out (sometimes no stones) but as long as I have symptoms I will continue to cleanse. So far, my allergies have improved, depressive tendancies lessened, digestion has improved, insomnia seems to be finally improving and energy has definitely improved so much. Before doing the cleanses I was s ...
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I have done 8 liver/gallbladder cleanses and will be continuing to cleanse until my allergies are completely gone, hypoglycemia resolved, skin is clear and metalic/acid taste no longer appears in my mouth. I have been cleansing very aggressively (about every 7-10 days). Not a whole lot comes out (sometimes no stones) but as long as I have symptoms I will continue to cleanse. So far, my allergies have improved, depressive tendancies lessened, digestion has improved, insomnia seems to be finally improving and energy has definitely improved so much. Before doing the cleanses I was s ...
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Shelby- I don’t think you did anything wrong at all. Feeling sick doesn’t mean you failed at all. Anything that comes out is a step closer to health. Keep doing it. You may want to experiment with the variations on the cleanse to see which is the easiest for you to tolerate/most successful. I have done 8 liver/gallbladder cleanses and will be continuing to cleanse until my allergies are completely gone, hypoglycemia resolved, skin is clear and metalic/acid taste no longer appears in my mouth. I have been cleansing very aggressively (about every 7-10 days). Not a whole lot comes ...
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Jasmine- Thank you for your comments. Your comments reminded me of my nutritional/philosophical dogma that I have had to let go of in my search for health. I have finally learned to let my body indicate what I should be eating. Intellectually, I don’t support low meat diets. If it were not for our ancestor’s killing and eating huge intakes of meat/fat we would not be here. Humans subsisted on carb intakes of around 25% for 2.5 million years. Who are we to now judge the very behaviors that guaranteed our survival? Scientifically there is therapuetic value of elevated protein i ...
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My 6th and 7th liver flush released only tan gravel. Cleanses 1-5 released green and tan blobs, but the sum total is probably only a few hundred, not thousands like other people have gotten. On the 7th cleanse I tried the Pint of olice oil flush where you drink 3tbs of oil and 2tbs of lemon juice in 10 oz. of water every 15 minutes until you drink 10 glasses. I could only finish 7 glasses. I was hoping that this approach would release more junk than drinking all the oil and juice at once. Didn’t happen that way. Just got the gravel. I still have acidic bile taste in my mouth and fa ...
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I am throughly confused about parasites. I understand that parsites can reak havoc on ones health and that getting rid of them might be worth the effort. Nevertheless, it would seem that some diets that would make parasites worse and (therefore health worse) are actually healing. For instance, a raw, paleolithic diet has been touted by many as a health restoring regimen because of the enzymes provided by raw food (including raw meat). Karl Loren on his website talks about this extensively. We also know from people like Jordan Ruben (Garden of Life) that live foods provide substantia ...
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Alexandra- When I saw these parasites was during my 4th cleanse, the day after I did the protocol. I am planning to do a total of 10 or more flushes. Good luck with your conitnued efforts. Kind Regards, Scott   [End]
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The remarks made by Jasmine make a lot of sense regarding the relationship of the liver to skin condition. I would encourage you to experiment with food to see what works best for you in terms of your overall health. Even though I am a Blood Type B and have tested as a fast metabolizer, I do better with less meat and fat and more carbohydrates than several nutritionists have recommended to me. A glucose tolerance test (used to determine the rate of oxidation) doesn’t tell the whole story. Experiment with different foods and ratios of protein/carb foods to see what you feel best on ...
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I have done the liver/gallbladder flush 5 times now. I have allergies, insomnia, hypoglycemia, intolerance to fats, and fatigue, metallic taste in mouth. I think I have a sluggish liver. My allergies seem to be showing some improvement so I will coninue cleansing. Still looking for improvement in these other areas. I have had no negative results from the cleansing. I am trying to understand how the flush actually cleanses the liver. I understand how the flush would clean the gallbladder, but not how it works on the liver. I understand that the large amount of olive oil forces the ...
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Hi Jasmine- You mentioned that that is evidence of dead parsites, which means I have live ones still in the system. I just finished a 5th liver/gallbladder cleanse yesterday and didn’t get parasite, but did get bigger stones or blobs than before. I was planning to do liver/gallbladder until no more stones or blobs came out. Any reason that I couldn’t finish the liver cleanse cycle first and then parasite cleanse? A gal at the healthfood store said that I should complete the liver cleanses first since I already started them before doing the parasite cleanse. This should dminish th ...
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Whitneay- Please don’t panic. The hives are a sign that you body is try to clear things out faster than your body can expell them. I have had a similar experience and worried about it for a while. Over time the hives will subside as your cleansing continues. Perhaps doing the more agressive cleansing (liver/gallbladder) will be more effective at expelling the toxins. I am a very experienced insomniac. I have had sleeping trouble for over a year. You will be amazed at how well you can manage without sleep. You feel like crap, but you wont go crazy. As long as the sleep depriva ...
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Whitneay- Please don’t panic. The hives are a sign that you body is try to clear things out faster than your body can expell them. I have had a similar experience and worried about it for a while. Over time the hives will subside as your cleansing continues. Perhaps doing the more agressive cleansing (liver/gallbladder) will be more effective at expelling the toxins. I am a very experienced insomniac. I have had sleeping trouble for over a year. You will be amazed at how well you can manage without sleep. You feel like crap, but you wont go crazy. As long as the sleep depriva ...
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I have had an acid/metallic taste in my mouth on and off for two years. I am assuming that this is an indicator of liver/gallbladder blockage (overproduction of bile.) I have done 4 liver cleanses and notice some improvements in allergies and energy. Will be continuing the cleanses. I hope to see some benefit with skin and hypoglycemia as well. Anyone else have the metallic taste issue or see improvements with hypoglycemia after doing several cleanses? Thanks. Kind Regards, Scott   [End]
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Just did my third liver/gallbladder cleanse yesterday. Got the usual green and tan blobs out. I know that many people claim that these cleanses are just release of olive oil and grapefruit. My experience convinces me otherwise. This afternoon I went to bathroom and more green and tan blobs came out. But in addition, I got some worm-looking things and some crab looking things with legs. Must be parasites. I did not do a parasite cleanse before hand. As you can imagine I will be doing several more cleanses over the next few months to keep getting these bad guys out. I am so thri ...
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Just did my third liver/gallbladder cleanse yesterday. Got the usual green and tan blobs out. I know that many people claim that these cleanses are just release of olive oil and grapefruit. My experience convinces me otherwise. This afternoon I went to bathroom and more green and tan blobs came out. But in addition, I got some worm-looking things and some crab looking things with legs. Must be parasites. I did not do a parasite cleanse before hand. As you can imagine I will be doing several more cleanses over the next few months to keep getting these bad guys out. I am so thri ...
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Just did my third liver/gallbladder cleanse yesterday. Got the usual green and tan blobs out. I know that many people claim that these cleanses are just release of olive oil and grapefruit. My experience convinces me otherwise. This afternoon I went to bathroom and more green and tan blobs came out. But in addition, I got some worm-looking things and some crab looking things with legs. Must be parasites. I did not do a parasite cleanse before hand. As you can imagine I will be doing several more cleanses over the next few months to keep getting these bad guys out. I am so thri ...
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Michele, Unfortunately, the problem with finding knowledgeable health practitioner here in the United States is they seem to be non-existent. It’s a shame! Are you 100% sure that gallstones are the source of you’re pain? After three months of painful attacks, A Hitoscan shows no stones or un-healthy galbladder! Plus my previous ultra-sound is perfectly normal. Guss where the pains are coming from? A Duodenal ulcer! The duodenum is located right next to the galbladder! The pain acts up in the middle of the night, and is agravated from fats and oils(similar to galbladder agrava ...
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Wow! This proves that these flushes may be dangerous when performed without the skill of a knowledgeable health practitioner. This story is downright scary! Maybe, too much oil(fat) instigated such an attack! Scott   [End]
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We were hoping this would help my wife as well... but it didn’t .... she has been off D. Coke for over 3 months now and still no results... I’m glad it worked for you.... I had used diet drinks lightly because I have always had a problem with low blood sugar. More and more I was choosing foods that did not have sugar or was sweetened with Nutra Sweet. After about a year of doing this, I was in the best shape I had ever been in my life. I was buff. Then suddenly I started getting a burning sensation in the skin of my thighs and I felt puffy. I started gaining weight li ...
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