...and so far, not too much stuff coming out. ,y last two flushes have only been chaffe. this one is a bit of chaffe and a handful of small stones. it seems stragne to me, that there must be more gunk in there because i have pain in my upper right quadrant all the time. maybe it will just take time to move?   [End]
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hey folks, i havent been around in awhile but i just completed my 4th flush this morning. not so many poopy peas this time, just lots and lots of chaff. im wondering, does this mean its not as successful or that there just werent as many stones?   [End]
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dunno about the heart beating (i get that all the time though, i have heard other reasons as to why this occurs but they arent related to liver flushing...) but wnated to say your band looks cool and would love to hear your demo!   [End]
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hi monica! decaf green tea is ok in my opinion. i think it might actually help. the warm liquid gives a very satisfied feeling. i am also dtarting today, however, i am doing 5 days rather than 10. id be happy to correspond with you, perhaps we can support each other.   [End]
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the recipie looks delicious! i am going to make it this week using dried mung beans. do you think it would work if i sauteed all the spices/onion/garlic and then put all the ingredients into a rice cooker? im not sure how long dried mung beans take. are they quick like lentils?   [End]
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ive never done the 7 day flush. it looked very complicated to me. the epsom salts are horrible but the good thig is that you only drink 3/4 of a cup at a time. its really over very quickly, like 3 big glugs. then just swallow it, say some curse words and you dont have to think about it again for 2 hours at least. the procedure has worked so well for me, i think its worth it.   [End]
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the burping is disgusting but its normal. i dunno about 15 hours after drinking it though, that seems to be quite long.   [End]
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im a pitta vatta. i scored very close on both of them so it was tough to say but i think im vatta in terms of personality/characteristics and piita in terms of body type. evrything ranf fairly true for the vatta except that im not a tall thin person. im medium, not overweight, but strong and muscular, medium frame.   [End]
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good luck to you both! i am on day 6. the fourth day was the worst so far, i really thought i was going to throw in the towel but its a bit better now. hang in there!!!   [End]
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hey shellycat, if you get a chance for a mini reading my name is renata terase. your readings are great! you should quit your job and start working as a counsler. you are helping so many people!   [End]
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tastes like 7up? does it have sugar in it?   [End]
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well, im not giving up yet. its 5am and i just got up. i teach class today and i think ill be ok. i was worried that i would be totally spaced out but i think i can pull it off. i tried swf yesterday and it didnt work. maybe this happens to everyone on day 4? so i took the laxative tea before bed and guess what happened? i woke up in the middle of the night having to run to the bathroom, buttt pee dripping down my legs. like peeing in the bed but not pee, if you know what i mean. whoo hoo! so i guess im technically ’cheating’ on the mc. i am going to do a liver flush today ...
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hops I originally took the metamucil on the recommendation of a doctor because I had hemerhoids and one polyp that is acting like a hemerrhoid. It was almost instant relief as the bulking of the stool helped tremendously. However, now I have constant discomfort in my stomach and have been taking Metamucil for over a year. Why is the psylium better than Metamucil? Is it different stuff or the same minus the added ingredients? Thanks again   [End]
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i think so, i am making a big bottle in the a.m. it totals 88oz and has the juice of four lemons and 10 tbsp of maple.   [End]
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thanks! i havent quit yet but grrrr!!! cant focus! just bitchy!   [End]
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so exciting! my name is renata terase. i would love a mini reading :)   [End]
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i want to hold out for the ten days but i dont know if i can. i feel alright but i have no motivation to do anything! im cranky and just icky. doing anything is a struggle and there is stuff i really just HAVE to get done. arrggh.   [End]
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this is not surprising to me. i exercise like crazy and i still have it. i have noticed over the years however, that it is harder and harder to stay thin even with more than an adequate amount of exercise. my liver is stressed to the max and i know it (ten years of antidepressents). well, at least im in the process of healing it. thanks!   [End]
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i make my lemonade in bulk in the morning and also have done the SWF in the am. it is tricky getting the timing right in terms of work. i am going to switch and do my swf in the evenings and skip the laxative tea. i tried it a couple of times and it gives me cramps do forget it. swf at night will work great for me after work.   [End]
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hi shelly, i am wondering what you know about cellulite. i am not overweight at all but i have a bit of cellulite on my thighs. i read somewhere that it forms as a result of toxicity, that our body stores nasty stuff in there. if this is true, how can we release it? its so damb difficult to get rid of! i mean aside from it being ugly, i just dont like the idea of toxic pockets being carried around on my thighs. thanks r   [End]
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i just did a search of the older forum pages. it looks like people have done it. i think i will do it tommorrow night. i have consisten pain in the upper right quadrant.   [End]
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i have not but ive been wondering about this myself.   [End]
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no. the reasons are that you want to take toxins out of your system, not put them in. secondly the caffiene will get you all revved up and will tax your adrenal glands. the hormonal release in the body will end up making you much more hungry.   [End]
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is it your first mc? if so then i would suggest going easy on yourself and stopping at day 10. after the fast resume much healthier eating habits for awhile. healthy diet is clansing as well. the next time you do the mc you may be able to go longer. i think its unrealistic to expect ourselves to just jump into these very long fasts when we are coming from a background of refined carbohydrates, hydrogenated fats, caffiene, meat, little veggies, etc. i dont know if this is your situation but if so then this is my 2 cents. best of luck.   [End]
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can you get these at a health food store or do you have to order online?   [End]
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hey there! i am on day three. i am pretty much with it in terms of energy, i have it but i have no motivation for anything. its weird. hang in there though! it will be worth it. strange thing for me, i actually like the swf. i love salt!   [End]
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things are going well. i feel really good physically but i am HUNGRY! not mentally hungry like i want my favorite foods, but physically hungry where my tummy just keeps growling. i down a lemonade or some water and 30 minutes lated its gurgling again. oh well, this too shall pass...   [End]
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i am making a whole bunch every morning. its an 88 oz jar with 4 lemons, 12 tbsp maple plus as much cayenne as i can stand. i adapted this from the 3 lemons for 64 oz recipie. its working quite nicely. the maple i adapted from the 2 tbsp per 10 oz. i used a bit less than what is called for because it was too sweet. hope this is some help.   [End]
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Thanks shelly! youre the best. Seriously thank you for dedicating so much of your time to help others. My tounge is looking pretty good so fay, not white at all. Catually very pink and healthy but Ill keep looking out. I am on my third day now and I feel great so far :)   [End]
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Hi Shelly, I know you say that lemons are tough on the liver, but I really felt a need to try and proceed with the MC anyway. I have had infection after infection due to some dental problems and my sinuses are all clogging, low energy etc. I just wanted to really clean house. Anyway, it is day three for me. Things are going pretty well but this morning after my SWF i had the regular butt pee going on but it was bright yellow! it looked exactly like urine! do you think this could be bile or just toxins or what? i think that when bilirubin breaks down it is a yellowish color. I ha ...
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You hit the nail on the head. Too much dairy! You are awesome. Thanks   [End]
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if youre feeling icky, do something fun for yourself. i dont think this experience is supposed to be torture. crank your favorite music and dance around the room or go shopping if you can. take this time to treat yourself. this morning i washed my hair and then did this wonderful oatmeal protein hair mask i like to do. usually, i think i am to busy to do it so i skip it. but really, i DO have the time, i just prioritze the little things for myself last. it is so nurturing to do that kind of stuff. not only does my hair look great, but it smells great for a few days too. i think i ...
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well, you may not like this suggestion, but if you really want to lose weight you need to EXERCISE! on the MC, you are getting plenty of glucose to fuel it. it does not have to be very strenous. maybe 20 minutes power walk or light jog or elliptical or whatever but something aerobic to get your lymph flowing. it will also make you feel better, the sweat cleanses toxins and you may get some endorphins which give you a natural high. eysterday i felt so shitty and thought i had no energy but i just got my ass up and did it anyway and i actually felt energized afterwards. youve gotta mov ...
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wow! i was feeling so terrible today and doubt was creeping in. this afternoon was really bad but then i got my butt up and went to the gym for a light jog and i feel so much better. i expect there will be ups and downs, those moments when it all seems like its for nothing, but they will pass. i feel like i have the motivation i need now to make it through another day. yeah! one day at a time. best wishes and warm hugs to everyone else cleansing today. r   [End]
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congrats on your cleanse! i am not an expert but i think if you are very grouchy it is not good. this is supposed to be a healing experience, not torture. up the lemonades!   [End]
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i have done many three day juice fasts and they are awesome! try it with fresh juices like carrot, apple, beet etc. you will have plenty of energy and its a cleanse as well as nutritive.   [End]
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This is so good to hear. I am on my first day and so far its very good. I had a bit of a headache but water is helping move it along. Im just trying to keep myself occupied with other things. Keep up the good work!   [End]
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i agree with hempgirl. it is too soon for another long fast and you are being quite hard on yourself. maybe you could do some liver flushing for awhile and then do another mc in a few months. i also like to fast one day a week every week as a remider to stay on track and for maintenence. maybe this could work for you too.   [End]
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I have done two flushes. It worked out great. For breakfast and lunch I just drank apple juice then nothing after two as suggested. After the epsom salts you will poop like crazy. Its normal. Then finally the olive oil drink. After I layed down I could ffel it gurgling and moving around on my right side. There was no discomfort though. I fell asleep easily, without ornithine. The next morning, have your ES and the you should start pooping again. This is when youll see the stones. My first flush produced about 200 pea sized green stones. I call it the ’poopy peas’. My second fl ...
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I have done two flushes. It worked out great. For breakfast and lunch I just drank apple juice then nothing after two as suggested. After the epsom salts you will poop like crazy. Its normal. Then finally the olive oil drink. After I layed down I could ffel it gurgling and moving around on my right side. There was no discomfort though. I fell asleep easily, without ornithine. The next morning, have your ES and the you should start pooping again. This is when youll see the stones. My first flush produced about 200 pea sized green stones. I call it the ’poopy peas’. My second fl ...
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i am doing 2 or 3 p&bs a day. i think the mc one day a week is a great idea. i have been doing a water fast every tuesday for the past several weeks and its wonderful. i think it is a good idea to have a fasting day every week in addition to the longer fasts for maintenence.   [End]
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I would skip green tea unless you are drinking the decaffinated kind. Chewing gum is self-defeating. Not only does it have a lot of artificial crap in it, the chewing trickes your body into thinking that a meal is coming and startes to prepare for digestion. You will only make youreslf hungry.   [End]
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Hi everyone! Best of luck for everyone starting today and lots of love to those already on their way. I started today and am amazed at how yummy the lemonade is! Im very excited would love to have some fasting buddies. I am on the computer off and on all day so if anyone has msn messenger, send me a note. i am TheRetronerd@hotmail.com. happy cleansing!   [End]
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your website is cool! how is the fast going? i am starting my mc tomorrow, your journal could be a real support i think!   [End]
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i think you can go ahead and do the flush. i did my flushed while taking birth control pills and had great results. i was on paxil and depakote for alomost 10 years. i was finally able to wean myself off them this summer. if you ever want to talk more about meds send me an email. they saved my life for sure but i also think it is possible to heal enough so that we can let them go. good luck!   [End]
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I am planning on starting my first MC tomorrow and would love some support. I am very nervous that I wont be able to make it the full ten days. I may be posting quite a bit! Ive also been very nervous because I have teeth problems and the lemon juice leeches calcium from my teeth. Ive decided to go for it but after every single lemonade I have to take a mouthwash of baking soda to neutralize the acid. I think that should be OK.   [End]
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i have had light colored stools only since ive started p&b and done a couple of liver flushes. if backed up gallbladder cause the light colored stools dont you think it would clear after a flush?   [End]
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i have had lightened stool on the p&b shakes. what does this mean?   [End]
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Thank you! It looks like threre is a lot of good info there :)   [End]
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good luck! i havent done a MC yet but im getting read to. i guess if i cant poop in the beginning ill know its not unusual. hang in there!   [End]
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i am very new to cure zone. i am interested in learning more about the zapper but it seems so confucing! where is the best place to start with all of it?   [End]
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any luck with the jog? aerobic exercise always works for me.   [End]
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i have to agree with that. the winter time keeps bugs/viruses active longer because the cold preserves them hence transmission goes way up. dont beat yourself up like you arent clean enough or whatever, its just a cold, nurture yourself through it. hugs!   [End]
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i can never seem to link up to the books you can read online. i would like to do a fast in march and so want to read everything i can beforehand to prepare. should i purchase books on amazon?   [End]
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hi all, i have a history of tooth grinding. although i wear a night gaurd now i have still lost a significant portion of enamel. it is worsened by certian foods as they strip calcium from the teeth. does anyone know any was to help my poor chompers or is it something i just have to live with?   [End]
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Wow Mooly! Great encouragement! I’m on day 10 of my 3rd cleanse and your post is truely inspiring! Thanks.   [End]
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that could work nicely. is it in one of his books?   [End]
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what is your diet like? i find certian foods just make me very gassy. for example - soy milk and cooked veggies. these are great foods but there are bacteria in your gut called methanogens. they break down parts of the foodstuffs that we dont have enzymes to digest and in the process they produce methane. i dont believe gas always means there is something wrong with you. sometimes its just the result of the particular foods we ingest.   [End]
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I posted about this once before and got one response but Im still not comfortable. I would like to do an extended fast. I have the perfect time to do it coming up next month. I am unable to do Master Cleanse though because of the lemon juice. I have a history of sever tooth grinding and have lost a significant amount of enamel from my teeth. If I drink lemonade the acid pulls more calcium and enamel off my teeth. Afterwards they are very sore and the problem is that emanel doesnt grow back. I am positive that week of lemonade would do me in. Even a day of it would be bad news. I a ...
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I have been doing the P&B shakes twice a day, sometimes 3X and every tuesday I fast on water only. So yesterday was my fast day and at the end of the day I took a hot bath and did an enema. I had some stuff come out that I think might have been mucoid plaque. It was curly rope like stuff. OK, this is gross, bear with me, I was so amazed thinking ’wow! its MP!’ so I took a pair of gloves and fished it out of the toilet (i know! disgusting) and when I looked at it had a lot of food particles in it and was very mucus like. So Im wondering if it is really MP or just a goopy thing of psy ...
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chewing also tricks the stomach into thinking food is coming so you will only be amking yourself more hungry.   [End]
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ive used lemons for my past two flushes. the first one was fine. the second one, the mixture got very slimy. ick!   [End]
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thank you for your message but i am going to have the tooth removed. baby teeth are not meant to last into adulthood. i am grateful that i have been able to hang onto it this long. i will try colloidal silver though.   [End]
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i am very sad :( i went to the dentist yesterday and found that i have to get a tooth removed. it is a baby tooth (im 30 yrs old) the adult tooth never formed. i knew i would lose it someday, well now its finally gotta go. im very attached to it, its as if god wanted part of me to always remain a child :) anyway, there is a mass infection in the root. the root is all rotted out and nasty. the doctor said i must take a round of antibiotic prior to the extraction or else the novicaine will have little effect. so ok, i will take the antibiotic. he also said he will put me on another ...
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thanks everyone! i think ill stick to what im doing for now. when spring rolls around i think ill try it or maybe the bitters.   [End]
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thanks everyone! i think ill stick to what im doing for now. when spring rolls around i think ill try it or maybe the bitters.   [End]
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5th flush total and 2nd on my goal of 20 for the year. it has not been quite as fruitful as the others. i’d estimate getting about 60-70 stones out this time. i also don’t feel quite as good as a usually do after the flushes. not to say i don’t feel good. but, usually, i feel FANTASTIC for several days following a flush. my next flush is scheduled for the weekend of the 21st. waiting to see some parasites, too. anyway, i know it’s a long haul and i’m glad i took out a year’s calendar. with it i could see how disciplined i will need to be to stay on schedule and get 20 flushes in. ...
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I am wondering what people’s experience with GCG has been. Ive done two flushes now and they have both been sucessful. First one I passed maybe 200 small pea stones and the second I had 3 huge golf ball stones and then maybe 50 peas. I read julia changs site. it seems wonderful. Im wondering for those who have used her products, do you think they make a significant difference or should I not bother to spend the money? I dont mind spending if it is worth it but if I can get just as good results without then I would skip it. Thanks!   [End]
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it depends what type of anti depressants you are on. all are bad for your liver, of course but some are REALLY bad. by this i mean, the ones i was taking come with a warning that they may produce serious even fatal liver damage. i had to have liver function tests every three months. i am so glad i was able to let go of those!!!   [End]
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they were pea green. There was one more boulder that passed and then maybe 50 or more peas and some chaff. There is still pain in the area. I expect the pain will take a long time to heal. I was taking anti depressant drugs for almost 10 years and towards the end I was getting abnormal liver function tests. The pain builty up increadingly over those years. Of course the doctors couldnt explain it. I think it is partly due to the damage from those drugs. But Ill keep flushing and I know it will heal with time.   [End]
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This is only my second flush and I really do believe the stones come from the liver but a little bit of me says ’no way! it must be the oil!’ i just passed two huge golf balls!!! i cant believe it! no wonder i have had pain in the upper right quadrant for years!   [End]
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nevermind, its finally coming out. i think next time, however, i will skip my P&B the day before.   [End]
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i started my second fluch yesterday (sat). i did the ES and didnt poop at all before drinking the OO. I got up this a.m. and had my 3rd ES drink. still no poop. Im feeling so constipated, owch. Im thinking maybe there is still a lot of P&B in there from Friday and its binding up all the water from the ES. Any suggetsions?   [End]
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yeah! another episode of the poopy peas! i am doing mine today so i should have a pea harvest in the a.m. hee-hee :)   [End]
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How much oregano oil do you use to kill parasites?   [End]
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Thanks! I am at one shake, starting to do two and I cant believe how much I am going. Holy cow, every time I turn around!!!   [End]
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Thanks hopinso. thats along the lines i was thinking. not making it a weekly event all the time, just for now as it feels like it is the thing to do and then taking the cues from my body as they arise.   [End]
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i flushed during a little cold bug. it was fine.   [End]
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good luck!!! i am new to flushing as well. i call the experience ’poopy peas’ because you will be pooping like crazy then the stones come out and they are like, well...peas!   [End]
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Hi all, I have been taking psyllium daily but Ive been saving the bentonit for days I fast because I wonder if I would be absorbing all the stuff I take in my supplements. WHat does everyone think? Am I wasting money on the supplements if I am doing them at the same time as bentonite?   [End]
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Thanks Joanne! I agree. I am very in tune with my body. I can feel my liver pleading with me - ’please! please! lets get rid of this stuff! I can’t wait.   [End]
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i did a flush last weekend and i am really feeling my body wanting to do another one this saturday. has anyone done a weekly flush? what is the reasoning for the advice to do it no sooner than every 2 weeks?   [End]
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yes, i used that cure as a child. i know it works but i dont eat any sugar anymore so ill just bear with the hiccups. the old holding the breath thing. and i actually made a whole day of water fast!!! i know some people do much more but i have only done juice fasts. it was tough toward the end of the day but i just took a hot bath then went to bed. i will be doing it again next tuesday.   [End]
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Thanks sandy! Ive done juice fasts before and never had a hiccup at all. Today is the first time Ive water fasted. My goal is to do a water only one day a week on a weekly basis.   [End]
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Hi All, I have done juice fasts but never a water fast. I am attemting one today for the first time and Im getting hiccups like crazy!!! Has this happened to anyone else?   [End]
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no food goes through the liver. the liver makes bile and detoxes/processes nutrients. the stomach, spleen, and pancreas sit on the left. the liver and gallbladder on the right. the pancreas, stomach, and liver/gallbladder all empty into the same tube at the top of the small intestines. the liver recieves nutrients through the blood supply but no food actually goes into it. check out an anatomy/physiology text for more detialed info.   [End]
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Hi All, I am new to the boards. It has been great so far. I just did my first liver flush and holy cow!!! poopy peas!!! I have done long fasts in the past but not for at least 9 years now. I would like to do the Master Cleanse but I have oine big concern. I am a tooth grinder and because of this I have lost a lot of the enamel on my teeth. Whenever I drink lemonade (sometimes when i eat apples too) my teeth are very sensitive afterward as the acid leeches calcium from them. I do not want to cause any more damage to my teeth. I was thinking perhaps I could do it if I did a mouth ...
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