I am no expert, however drinking a bit of urine won’t hurt you. I take a one mouthful gulp once or twice a day. Urine is not tasteless. Sometimes it is sweet if sugar has passed through the kidneys. Sometime it is neutral (but still tastes like pee to me), sometimes salty, biter or foul depending on what you ate and how long it has stewed in your bladder. My kidneys aren’t filtering probably which is why I do UT. That’s just me though. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Good for you. Some people do look at you a bit weird if you tell them you drink pee. However, it has a lot of health benefits. Avoid it first thing in the morning (IMO) as your system does tend to expel a night’s worth of ’stuff’ into the urine that can be rather nasty tasting. You have a never-ending flow, so it’s not like you are wasting all that good pee in the morning. Let you body be the barometer. If UT is clearing up chronic symptoms and making you feel heathy again, then you are on the right path. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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My understanding is that the body still makes medicinal substances and elements that will trigger healing and help re-balance your system even if you eat junk food. The heart of UT is the idea of re-ingesting agents that the body produces in response to system imbalances, diseases or unhealthy conditions. The reality seems to be that certain ’products’ the body makes by itself and found in urine will repair and restore our metabolism to an optimal healthy level if re-introduced to the body. I am no expert mind you, but it has worked for me. And you don’t have to be a pristine ’eater’ ...
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Don’t drink urine first thing in the morning. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Rudenski. Can you sense any kind of spirit(s) in Me? Thank you.   [End]
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You will find if you down a few swallows throughout the day, it will help alleviate numerous annoying little conditions that we all seem to develop as we grow older. I have been doing UT for almost a year now and it has certainly had a beneficial effect. I haven’t actually posted here for quite some time, but I thought I would peek in. I suspect a few of my old pee guzzling buddies are still posting here from time to time. We’ve all had some good laughs at the puns we’ve come up with. Even my name Wiz (short for Wizard) drew some chuckles.... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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We all have the original ’blueprint’ of our physical bodies stashed somewhere inside of us. We can draw upon that perfect state of being to heal the diseases and chronic conditions that we develop over our lifetimes. Sometimes nasty chemicals, cutting and burning can be the catalyst for healing from diseases like cancer etc, however as most of us on this forum know, it is a very traumatic and dangerous way to try to stimulate the internal healing system into action. More people die from the so called ’cure’ than ever succumb to the decease. UT is a simple, effective and inexpensive w ...
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I’m glad I could be of service... This is what I do. I keep a small mug handy, and I usually do one mouthful (about 1 oz) at a time 3 or 4 times a day. I chase it immediately with mouthwash. Unlike Chaz who guzzles it until in runs down his chin, I find that a quick shot and rinse is the most expedient and painless way for me. I am still definitely not fond of the taste, (gag!) but if I down it quick, I find I can handle it. Sipping it in tea you is certainly fine, but for me I would rather just glug a mouthful or two and be done with it. BTW, UT has cleared up several of my kidney ...
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Hey, I rememeber that bozo. What ever happened to him? ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Good story. I have just one analogy. Getting a perfectly good organ cut out due to a medically misunderstood and curable condition is like having your clogged bathroom drain permanently removed on the advice of your plumber, instead of simply cleaning it ... And then afterward, you are never able to use the sink because the pipe is gone. You lose, and your smug, know-it-all plumber made a killing... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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...maybe I’ll sweeten the mixture up somewhat and then freeze up a batch. yummy. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Ok... I will try a frosty mug and let you know. If it tastes like A&W root beer, then perhaps we will have a new product we can market. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Hmmmmm.... I usually do the master cleanse fast followed by a liver cleanse. I’ve done the parasite a couple of times also. I suspect you could do the parasite drops with the master cleanse. I did it once and I’m still here. I also did Urine Therapy (and am still doing it) with my last cleanse and it is doing a fabulous job of helping me heal myself of a serious condition. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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The frothy pee is very, very pronounced and looks like a bubblebath when the condition is at it’s worst. The bubbles don’t melt away immediately like with normal pee, and it leaves a visible residue sometime later if you don’t flush. At it’s worst, I could see that the pee was cloudy and it certainly contained something abnormal. The condition has abated a great deal with me, so I am not getting the same pronouced bubbling I used to get. However when the condition was bad, it wouldn’t matter if I hit the bowl, or the water... the pee in the bowl would still be frothy and bubbly. ;0) ...
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Try it without the pepper. I’ve done it several times without cayenne. Or do as I did last time, put a miniscule amount in -- one shake for 2 quarts ... you can hardly taste it, and you still get much of the benefit. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Once or twice during my last MC I didn’t drink any juice all day (and several times only 2 or 3 glasses), so I wouldn’t worry about it. It is a fast after all... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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I have done the fast a number of times, (the last was 15 days that ended last weekend) and all I do is ease back into eating steamed veggies the very first day. I am not recommending it per se, but it works for me. I don’t find I need to do juice, then broth etc. I wouldn’t recommend pizza or a cheese burger, but some ’good’ restaurant veggie soup or light steamed veggies shouldn’t be tough on your system if you aren’t able to get to a kitchen. I also pick up Chinese fresh steamed veggies with rice and noodles (with or without tofu depending on where I get take-out) if I don’t have the ...
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The syrup is essenial. You need real grade B maple syrup (or grade C if anyone still makes it). Grade A is too processed, and Aunt Jemima brand (or most any other brand in your local super market) is flavored sugar water. As long as you have fresh lemons, they will work. You get all the essenial vitamins and minerals your body needs from fresh lemons and grade B (unrefined) maple syrup. You might want to get some cayenne pepper also... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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So.... if your urine is bubbly or frothy, your kidneys aren’t filtering properly for some reason. The trick seems to be to halt and reverse any filtering problems before chronic kidney damage ensues. It may be as simple as using UT or it may entail re-opening the energy channels with acupuncture along with other treatments. If one’s physical body is out of balance with blocked energy pathways from either from toxic elements in the body (or even triggered by internalized negative emotions), one must clear the blockages so that the life energy flows to the damaged area. That will ...
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I am happy to report that in less than 3 weeks on UT, the nasty symptoms related to my malfunctioning kidneys have abated. I am able to eat again without experiencing extreme and persistent dry mouth (and a very sour taste) ...and I no longer have to constantly glug water every five minutes. It was very unpleasant, as no matter how much water I drank, my mouth seemed like it was full of cotton, and I felt generally dehydrated and unwell. Somehow the UT has effected a balance in my body. My kidneys are still not 100 % right, as I am still leaving slightly frothy urine, and still itch a b ...
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I told the same thing to my oldest friend that I told my ex ...and he phoned me this morning and he is not only now drinking wee-wee, but he gargles it and rubs it on his skin... Now THAT is commitment! He says it works great for his skin condition. He also says that if you hold your nose, you can swish it, gargle and then swallow and you won’t retch... I can hardly wait to give it a try... (blarrrrgggg) ;0) Wiz   [End]
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UT seems to work on most everything else, so maybe it will help with your imbalances.. Anyway, read Martha’s story: http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine_martha.htm ... and keep am open mind.... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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I am on day 11. I have only done the morning warm salt water perhaps 3 times so far. And I don’t go overboard on the salt. I did 41 days last time, with only an occational morning warm water flush, and believe me, everything will come out anyway. I agree that if the salt water is a problem, leave it out or don’t do it everyday. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Unlike Chaz, (who has developed a taste for piddle) I am only doing one slug per visit. I still find the taste a bit hard to get used too. I may increase at some point but I am going stick with this for a while. However, I’m sure you could do UT twice a day without much difficulty. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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You know those kooky specialty hats that some drinkers wear that have several beer cans with a hose and a mouth piece coming down so they can just sip away without worrying about holding the beer? Well, with your avid consumption of pee, I had this funny thought about a hose that comes up through the collar of your shirt so you can sip anywhere, anytime.... Why waste a drop, huh? ....and... what a conversation piece!!! Hoot hoot! BTW, did you know that brushing your teeth with urine brightens your teeth? ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Not questioning your intentions great that your trying to help! You should just read what you advise first! that way you will minimize contradicting yourself!   [End]
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I think Chaz is right. I believe I could still taste it in juice. I have been taking about a 1 ounce shot (a big mouthful) 3 or 4 times a day and plan to up it to 2 ounces soon. I chase it with mouthwash, which helps a lot. At any rate, if this turns into a lifetime therapy, I’d better get used to it. I haven’t tried it as an enema. However, no taste buds involved in that... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Ok, fair enough. I just thought you were being overly pessimistic. The program worked for me and not for you and that’s all good. I am not a fanatic about it and rarely think about the 12 steps now that I’ve gone on with my life. We’re both sober and that’s all that matters. BTW, I’ve only been to one NA meeting. Too many tattooed bikers types for my taste.... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Did you ever read this? http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine_untoldstory.htm She had endometriosis also. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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This is a bit of a read, but it will explain UT much better (written by someone I’m sure you will relate to) http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine_untoldstory.htm Don’t pass up getting well because you may have misconceptions and are squeamish about urine. Taking it really isn’t that bad, and I have little doubt it will help you. BTW, the moment I started the master cleanse and UT, I immediately started feeling much better and my nasty symptoms have almost disappeared. I don’t have the chronic problems you have, but it seems that my blown out kidneys are beginning to heal. ...
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Quite eating meat, sugar, and any and all processed foods ...and stop coffee, sodas and other sweetened beverages, and I suspect the weight will stay off. I don’t know if it will work for you, however it sure worked for me... ;0) Wiz PS, I managed to do the fast for 40 days last time, although I am only on day 8 this time. Don’t get discouraged... it gets easier the farther you get into it.   [End]
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You might also check into macrobiotics for both your condition and your husbands cancer. It is a healing way of eating that has cured many people of cancer if they aren’t already too damaged from traditional chemotherapy and radiation treatments... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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I am up to one big gulp per visit (and I don’t mean the Seven Eleven big gulp) You’re braver than I am... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Only the minutest amount of toxins are excreted through urine ! Toxins are released through the intestines and colon not through urine! Urine is not, as many believe, the excess water from food and liquids that goes through the intestines and is ejected from the body as ”waste”. It is much different and much more. When you eat, the food you ingest is eventually broken down in the stomach and intestines into extremely small molecules. These molecules are absorbed into tiny tubules in the intestinal wall and then pass through these tubes into the blood stream. The blood circulates thro ...
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At last, you offer something constructive. (abet discounting all those who have to seek help from their fellowman in various programs to beat addiction) You can do it yourself. Look within, grasshopper. OK. Not everyone is as clever and highly evolved as you are. I don’t know what substance abuse problem you had or how strongly it had a hold on you. Perhaps you were actually addicted to something, I can’t say. However, to those who are in the death grip of drug addiction, it is usually a different story, Left to their own devices, they are incapable of finding and walking the ’ ...
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Five days ago I posted the following in this forum ’weird disturbing symptoms’: http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=362&i=7886 I had bad digestion with a host of other ills .... I am one week on the master cleanse and 5 days on Urine Therapy (suggested by my friend, a Ph.D. of Chinese Medicine) and it appears to be working. (you can also see the Urine Therapy forum where we are talking UT with lots of jokes.) And see: http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/urine904.html Two other things come to mind. You might look into macrobiotics as a possible eating regime. People hav ...
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Gee, getting defensive now are we? Hmmmmm? You still haven’t said a thing about how to positively approach recovery, or more specifically, what to do if you can’t afford rehab, which is what this thread is about. Do you actually have any differing approaches that might be of help to the original person that posted? Like I said: If you have something ’encouraging’ to share, then lets hear it... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Your truth doesn’t affect me one way or the other. And I’m not taking offense at all. Actually, except to take an 8 year sober birthday cake, I hadn’t been to a AA/CA meeting in over 2 years, and it was mighty sketchy before that for quite some time. However, for the first few years meetings worked for me, and worked well. I had tried to quit many, many times on my own. I didn’t know how to go about it. The monkey turned into a gorilla and the pull of the drug induced lifestyle was too strong. Living loaded was ingrained in my personality. I had to relearn what living sober was all abou ...
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”Can you see yourself sitting on the porch with your feet up, reading the morning paper, listening to the birds chirping . . . smiling while slowly, casually sipping a cup of urine . . . ???” Well, sure... if it had an olive in it... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Yes, the recidivation rate with drug addiction in general, whether using a 12 step program or spending $30,000 at the Betty Ford clinic is something around 90%. If you managed to get and stay sober without a 12 step program then bully for you. You are part of the one in 10. The point here is that I am simply sharing what worked for me and what has worked for millions of others, and I am endeavoring to spread a bit of positive energy. Rather than casting aspersions on what is now the most open, accessible, popular (and most affordable) method of recovery, why don’t you come up with so ...
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There are actually a lot people in AA, CA, NA that are working the program and have years of sobriety. And, if there weren’t newcomers (whether court ordered or not) no one would ever get and stay sober. Yes, some AA, CA and NA meetings have people still using and drinking who are required to be there. However, nothing says you have to follow them out to the parking lot and get high with them. There were certain meetings that I refused to attend because there wasn’t very much established sobriety. Just a lot of annoying, jittery people telling their war stories. However there are som ...
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Sometimes AA people are cool with you going to their meetings if you identify as an addict/alcoholic. I know I drank buckets when I was using, so it made little difference to me ...although alcohol was not my ’drug’ of choice. I really never just ’drank’ alcoholically. I mixed every other drug I could with it. However, I ’used’ drugs alcoholically, so the line became blurred. Therefore, I just keep in mind that it is ’drugs and alcohol’ (or anything at all that would keep me high) instead of the plain old devil’s brew that I am recovering from when I attend an AA meeting. The meetings a ...
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If I was a drinking man, I’d mix it with a shot of brandy. However... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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...that’s wishful thinking. I am several days into the therapy. One gulp, 2 or three times a day with the mouthwash bottle handy. I am going to do this along with the master cleanse and see if it helps my condition. I’ll keep you posted... Wiz   [End]
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Go to Cocaine Anonymous meetings. 30 meetings in 30 days. More meetings if you start jonesing. Some people do a lot more meetings in 30 days ....and get a sponsor. The AA, CA, NA programs have worked miracles for alcoholism and drug addiction for decades and decades. If you can’t do it alone (and most people can’t) there is place where you can go to be safe, welcomed, and where you will learn the tools for living sober. I should know... I just passed 8 years sober from a horrendous cocaine addiction. People like us have no problem living loaded. The challenge is living sober. I ...
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Small world... It seems birds of a feather flock to this forum. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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It kind of lends a whole new meaning to your screen name. LOL Of course look who is talking... La PIS! Sorry couldn’t resist. Nice to see you around. Hurry up and heal yourself already!   [End]
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Yes, I expect I’ll get used to it. BTW, I just called my ex-wife and told her I stopped eating meat and started drinking piss. Boy, you should have heard her reaction... har har ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Wow Wiz good stuff ! I sensed movement like trains plains and automobiles then Telstar and spacetravel, yah good struff! Good cruisin tunes!   [End]
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Man... I chugged a full cup. (no half measures for me!) Blaaaarrrrgggg. Nasty. I think I’ll do smaller amounts for a while. I am on the master cleasne and that didn’t work too well as a chaser. If I could have chased it with food, I might not have had that queasy taste backing up in my throat all day. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Hi Robbie, My friend’s name is Dr. Will Morris and he is the Dean of Emperor College in Santa Monica. 310 453-1608 I have known him for almost 20 years. He is also a musician (as am I). Solid guy, great doctor. The last time I saw him was in the late 80s, so I can’t really remember his diagnosing tools, but he is one of the best at his business here in LA. I was scheduled for blood and urine labs with my regular doctor and I was balking at the cost but he wants me to get them done so he can use them in conjunction with his diagnosis and treatment when we start. I guess he wants al ...
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Hi Lapis, Thanks for the quick response... Well, this is what happened. About 3 months ago I started getting dry mouth and my urine was like a bubble bath. I was really overweight, ate crap food, w/ too much sugar and coffee. You’d think at my age, I’d know better. (I’ve dropped 30 lbs and quit meat and coffee now though) My symptoms: frothy, bubbly urine (probably contains proteins) + constipation + constant dry mouth + bad digestion + sore muscles + fatigue + prickly itchy skin (recent) frothy, bubbly urine (probably contains proteins) + constipation + constant dry mouth ...
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Hi Chaz, Thanks for the input. I just found the following on kidney problems and the ’urine fast’ at: http://www.health-science-spirit.com/urine.html Benefits of Urea Only recently has it been discovered that the concentration of urea in the blood has a key role in regulating at least 7 major pathways. Urea levels are low with cancer and many other diseases. The frequency of cancer and especially of multiple tumours and metastases increases greatly if urea levels are low. Urea is not just a waste product or the end state of the protein metabolism as commonly assume ...
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Lapis, Long time, eh? I just started UT after day 5 on the Master Cleanse. (I also went veggie about 6 weeks ago) I started with 5-10 drops from an eyedropper and it was completely tasteless. Of course, I have been drinking mostly water today with a few sips of the lemonade. At any rate, I suspect I can manage some larger dosages quite easily. I have apparently developed some kidney problems so I set up an appointment next week with a friend who is a Ph.D. in Chinese Medicine. Oddly enough, he suggested I could start on UT before I go see him for acupuncture/herbal treatment ...
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hey, hey, hey... Thanks for the advice Oddly enough, right after I posted, I phoned an old friend who is a Ph.D. in Chinese Medicine and the Dean of Emperor College (the school for Chinese Medicine here in LA). I am going to start some treatments with him soon. I am still investigating other healing systems though... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Hi all, I wonder if anyone here has had experience with the following: frothy, bubbly urine (probably contains proteins) + constipation + constant dry mouth + bad digestion + sore muscles + fatigue + prickly itchy skin frothy, bubbly urine (probably contains proteins) + constipation + constant dry mouth + bad digestion + sore muscles + fatigue + prickly itchy skin frothy, bubbly urine (probably contains proteins) + constipation + constant dry mouth + bad digestion + sore muscles + fatigue + prickly itchy skin It appears to be a kidney malfunction, however it may point to ot ...
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Hi GentleRhino, I have weird stuff happening with my kidneys (and perhaps liver) so I would be happy to learn of any new approaches cleanses. I did a 40 day master cleanse about 4 years ago, followed by the H. Clark cleanse, which was very successful. However, as of the last several months, my internal plumbing has been malfunctioning, so I am looking for new ways to promote healing... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Hmmm.... Which place did you get the herbs from? maybe you had a bad batch. I am thinking of doing the Hulda Clark Cleanse, and I am also on the master cleanse fast right now. It may be too much to do at the same time, I fear... Wiz ;0)   [End]
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An Israeli army officer who repeatedly shot a 13-year-old Palestinian girl in Gaza dismissed a warning from another soldier that she was a child by saying he would have killed her even if she was three years old. The officer, identified by the army only as Captain R, was charged this week with illegal use of his weapon, conduct unbecoming an officer and other relatively minor infractions after emptying all 10 bullets from his gun’s magazine into Iman al-Hams when she walked into a ”security area” on the edge of Rafah refugee camp last month. A tape recording of radio exchanges betw ...
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I will just post this without comment... ;0) Wiz Witnesses say US forces killed unarmed civilians By Kim Sengupta in Baghdad 24 November 2004 Allegations of widespread abuse by US forces in Fallujah, including the killing of unarmed civilians and the targeting of a hospital in an attack, have been made by people who have escaped from the city. They said, in interviews with The Independent, that as well as deaths from bombs and artillery shells, a large number of people including children were killed by American snipers. US forces refused repeated calls for medical ai ...
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All those that are lost in Maya have a whole host of particular rules and dogmatic beliefs. I don’t follow the rules of the consensus reality. I simply see through it. ;0) Wiz ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© All those that are lost in Maya have their particular rules and dogmatic beliefs. I don’t follow the rules of the consensus reality. I simply see through it. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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The bible has been heavily mucked with. I enjoy reading about the original Christian teachings, but you won’t find them in the bible (what little is there is was so chopped up and changed, it is almost unrecognizable). I have a small forum or Early/Esoteric Christianity that has posts about the bible alternations and how they were changed to fit an ancient political agenda. Also, there are links to the original Christian gospels before they became twisted and dogamtized... You may find it interesting to compare what the original teachings were to how they were rewritten and passed do ...
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I am aware of several, however I have only one that I can attach a name to. Wiz WizardNet forums http://www.wizardnet.com   [End]
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One can perceive these energies in any way that their belief system and spiritual awareness will allow. If some people see negative alien forces as devils, that is OK. It is not very accurate in my view, but when you are talking about inter-dimensional energies and life forms, many of our 3D rules don’t apply... Wiz WizardNet forums http://www.wizardnet.com ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© One can perceive these energies in any way that their belief system and spiritual awareness will allow. If some people see negative alien forces as devils, that is ...
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If anyone cares to comment or debate this, please do. This is long, but it contains some examples... ;0) Wiz New Testament Alterations (from essene.com) ”It is certain that the New Testament was not written by Christ himself, nor by his apostles, but a long while after them, by some unknown persons, who, lest they should not be credited when they wrote of affairs they were little acquainted with, ...” ”Many things have been inserted by our ancestors in the speeches of our Lord which, though put forth under his name, agree not with his faith; especially since--as already ...
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I found the original reference. Al gave this same talk in LA in 1990 or 1991 (which I attended). This could be where Icke picked up his reptilian theme: (clarification: these reptilians were from Orion, the scientific helpers were from Sirius A.) Excerpt: The project generated the time tunnels. People were able to travel in time and space and they did. But they also had other projects going on at Montauk. We still don’t know all of them. The technology for the tunnels was given to us by cooperative effort of alien groups, primarily the Orion group, which involved reptilians, a ...
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Glad you are feeling better. This is just the dark before the dawn.... Feel free to post over at WizardNet if you like. (I’ll bet your Lucifer post would get some response). We have never really had any trollish people. ’Invite only’ takes care of that. The straight ahead Christian folks were generally civil and non judgmental. However, although the conspiracy forum has been chugging along nicely for the past 5 years, the Christianity forum started to sputter out over there past several months. However with a few of the enlightened people from over here, and a few old-timers from ...
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I am not aware of the significance of that number, however doubtless there was voter fraud. Probably on both sides. The republicans, however, are just much, much better at it.... ;0) Wiz   [End]
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The deep southerners will never again follow a path of destruction the likes of Kerry/Edwards. It is really telling that this once Democratic refuge is now, totally Republican.   [End]
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...so, no, I don’t ”believe that Jesus Christ died for aliens too?” ;0) Wiz ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© ...so, no, I don’t ”believe that Jesus Christ died for aliens too?” ;0) Wiz   [End]
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You go ahead and believe whatever you want. You aren’t too bright either, (I mean it kindly, Durwood, really) but I thought you a bit smarter than this lame-ass ’mouth sans brain’ I’ve been replying to on this thread. I have said many times that I support less government. And by less, I mean I would just as soon see the whole rotten government system torn down, both parties sh*t canned, and the original constitutional republic (the one we no longer have) put back in place. Is that liberal in your eyes? Or perhaps it’s the fact I have adopted and sponsored children that makes me liberal ...
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...still chuckling... Blue Stone, please stop by wizardnet.com. ;0) Wiz ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© ...still chuckling... Blue Stone, please stop by wizardnet.com. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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This ought to set all the little bumble bees buzzing here.. ;0) Wiz Kerry Won... Greg Palast November 04, 2004 Excerpted from TomPaine.com ---Kerry won. Here are the facts.--- I know you don’t want to hear it. You can’t face one more hung chad.† But I don’t have a choice. As a journalist examining that messy sausage called American democracy, it’s my job to tell you who got the most votes in the deciding states. Tuesday, in Ohio and New Mexico, it was John Kerry. Most voters in Ohio thought they were voting for Kerry. CNN’s exit poll showed Kerry beating Bush a ...
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In an effort not to stir things up anymore, I am toning down the rhetoric... ...self censorship at it’s finest.... ;0) Wiz ©†ƒ……•™¼‡_Original_Message_¾€š½ž¢«»¬ï°© Not very fast on your feet, are you? Come one, garbage mouth, fire up one or two of those brain cells and say something.... anything.... har har har. ;0) Wiz   [End]
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Don’t be sad... be Glad (hold’s up garbage bag with Bush’s face on it) -- you remeber the commercial, right? heh heh anyway.... Come over to http://www.wizardnet.com and say Hi ;0) Wiz   [End]
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See if you can get two neurons to fire simultaneously and follow along. (Count on your fingers if it helps) 1) If all you can do is hurl insults and make demeaning statements, I can certainly respond in kind. Your ignorance and arrogance is staggering, so you are an enormous target. 2) As to ’crowing’ and barking at my betters, those are colorful statements. However, let’s see if I can explain my philosophy to someone as thick as you are in a few succinct words... 3) Libertarian ideals: (I did mention this, correct?) Individual liberty and personal responsibility; a free-marke ...
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I have a forum on early Christianity that is languishing. Esoteric debate just got incorporated into the main forum here, and so there is not really seperate place now to *debate* esoteric and early Chritianity. It is mainly the origins of Christianity that I have in mind anyway. Perhaps I will jump start my Christianity forum. It’s at wizardnet.com I am putting out a general invite to everyone. I want traditional folks there also, to debate the orthodox side of the early church. Otherwise, the interchanges lack depth... ;0) Wiz WizardNet forums http://www.wizardnet.com ...
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