Hi all, I’m having trouble getting a bulk volume of the 5% lugols where I live these days, but 7% is plentiful, could someone with smarts please tell me how much total iodine is in 1ml of 7% lugol’s solution? I know that properly made one ml of Lugols 5% will have 100mg of KI and 50mg of I2 for a total Iodine content of 125mg, how does that relate to 7%? Thanks, Chardy   [End]
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Thanks Wombat - that’s really helpful! Its been grinding my brain because of all the confusing (probably fraudulent, definitely immoral) producer’s figures abounding on the internet. One further question - what would I expect to be in 1ml of 7% Lugols, as KI, I2 and as total? It’s the easiest sort to get online as 5% isnt as available in the UK. I’ve also bought a graduated dropper for 1ml, so I should be able to regulate my dosing. It’s be better if I had the 5% as then I’d know it was 125mg per dropper! Thanks very much again.   [End]
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Hi everyone, I’ve been on the iodine journey for a good few months now and am seeing slow improvement and as I am going into the higher doses (well, higher to some, not so much to others, around 150mg) I’m looking to get a more cost effective lugols. I’ve seen some at 12% and 15% concentration but I have been looking all over the internet and cannot find proper agreement on how much iodine would be in one ”vertical” drop. Are drops different, depending on the dropper used (I understand the difference between vertical and horizontal). And how much total iodine would I be getting per dr ...
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Thanks everyone! Just a quick update, I followed advice and upped my potassium as I thought my Na/K balance was off (used cream of tartar) and changed my vit C to buffered whilst increasing my calcium a little too (I dont eat dairy and have noticed that supplementing it occasionally helps). The cramps disappeared after a couple of weeks, along with the soreness, which is blessed relief... I shall keep asking questions as I go - thanks again. C   [End]
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KaitS, do you have any links/research to back up the statement that high doses of K/Na iodine block the thyroid gland? I’d be interesting in understanding more about this and the mechanism of action for causing a blockage. Thanks, C   [End]
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Hi all, have been following the iodine protocol for about 5 weeks now, three of those weeks alternating between 75mg and 100mg of iodoral. This includes all the companion supps (selenium, b’s, vit c, magnesium, alternating zinc+copper). I haven’t noticed any bromide coming out (UK based so less of it around) and have done some salt loading. However, in the last week I’ve noticed that my muscles (calves on both sides, shoulders on both sides) have been very tight, sore and on the verge of cramping. My muscles generally feel very tight and have been fatiguing more easily at the gym too ...
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Hi - hope this is not too distressing for you. Did you take the companion supplements recommended alongside the iodine (vit c, selenium, magnesium, b vitamins)? I’m wondering if you need selenium to prevent tissue oxidation in the thyroid?   [End]
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Thanks as always Trap. I’ll be back on it the second I’m home! Not flying just going to a conference where we can’t take anything like that in, it is a bit convoluted really... Will be interesting to see if I notice a difference without the iodine I suppose and its only for a week and a half. Then I’ll get back on the lauded 100mg... The mercury thing in the previous message is terrifying to consider. I’m always a bit happy that the EU generally seem a little more aggressive on legislation against the most dangerous chemicals... I wonder what would happen if he ate tuna or other l ...
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Hi everyone, I’ve been up to 75mg on Lugols for a couple of weeks. Still not noticing as much as I thought but that will be the subject of another post. Due to a work trip, Im going to have to take about a 10 day break from iodine, its all come up unexpectedly and there is absolutely no way that I can bring it with me for a variety of reasons. Do you think that breaking (going cold turkey!) for 10 days or so starting tomorrow would have any issues, anything I should be aware of? I will continue to take vitamin C and selenium (at a lower level) during the temporary break due to the i ...
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Thanks! I shall keep you all updated as to my progress...will go away and read some previous posts regarding dosage. Just one Q - when do you take yours? With or separate from iodine?   [End]
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Hi everyone! Just a quick question for confirmation - does this borax look any good? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Borax-Decahydrate-Ultrapure-250gm-/130543641477?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Supplies_ET&hash=item1e6501e385#ht_1953wt_1163 I presume that its ok due to the quality/purity? Dosage for a man is 1/4 - 1/8tsp? Should I take it with or away from iodine? Thanks, as always, Richard   [End]
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Incredible! As I am currently considering going higher, I will be really interested in any updates you make paraboy. Have you changed/increased any co-factor supplementation (selenium, vit C, b’s, mag etc)? You reports will help me to spend a little less time looking and little more time leaping! Best of luck C   [End]
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Hi, Im interested to go up to a 100 mg (or adding another couple of tablets of iodoral to make it 75mg - though I shall need to get some lugols or this will get expensive!) When you say vit B gina - do you mean a b complex, or the ATP cofactors produced by optimox/specific bs? What dosage would you recommend here and what is the purpose of these - better storage/utilisation or thyroid protection? Thanks as always, C   [End]
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Thanks Trapper! A brief update to anyone else wanting to combine the two... I didnt take any iodine or supps on the morning of the flush and followed the Hulda Clarke protocol as directed, except a few hours later to link in with my rhythm. Results: I found the night after taking the EVOO+GF to be more uncomfortable than normal (have done around 25 flushes), more gurgling and more of a sour stomach, I report here for accuracy as it may well be unrelated to the iodine. The following day, I found that I produced considerably fewer stones than normal (I dont have true stones, just ...
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Hi everyone, very much enjoying reading all the research here and looking forward to continuing my journey with you all within fingers reach of my questions! Ive been taking 25mg of lugols for two weeks, now on to 50mg for three days. Reasons: generalised fatigue and malaise, mild depression, achey/painful muscles and lacking a lust for life, trying to heal old chronic fatigue wounds which were never fully diagnosed (possibly hypo or adrenal issues but never diagnosed), also query metal exposure from work but no amalgams, along with general memory problems and often feeling quite cut/of ...
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Thanks, you’ve all been really helpful!   [End]
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Hi everyone, I was just wondering if anyone had attempted a oil and grapefruit LF whilst taking Lugols + companionate supps? Is it advisable/inadvisable? I’m thinking, to help my liver, along with herbs I might do one this weekend to get any built up toxins out... Thanks!   [End]
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Hi everyone, I have started my iodine journey in earnest and have been at 12.5mg for a week and a half (with co-factors of Se, Mg and vit C), I want to go up to 25mg (and beyond this to 37.5 and finally 50mg in a few weeks) now and wondered what the recommendations regarding dosage timing are? Would there be any benefit to taking everything at once, or would it be better to split my daily doses into twice a day or four times a day at 50mg (I’m taking iodoral). Do people have any experiences of any differences between, say, taking your full daily dose in one go or splitting it evenly ...
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Just a little note to all those worried about the Humaworm service (which I have never been concered about because RG is a fantastic, generous gentleman) I ordered on the 6th of Nov and it shipped yesterday on the 19th of Nov, sure a little longer than before the fire but for a handmade-to-order super product the wait is nothing. Have faith everyone.   [End]
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It has to be raw milk! Organic is much better, naturally, but if its been heated and filtered then you are still consuming a damaged nutritionally devoid product. Its just such a shame that I cant find raw in my local area.   [End]
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Hi Dennis, What do you suggest topically for treatment of spider veins? And for ingestion? Thanks.   [End]
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My juice fasting is (when Im not ’pure’ fasting) added to with a couple of raw eggs yokes and quality cold pressed oils - Ive found it still releases gunk and improves my wellbeing / skin tone and other external markers. When I did my first juice fast, I used some laxative tea and SWFs to keep my bowels moving the things that came out of me were incredible. The colour and smell and even sections of ’plaque’ - all I can say is that my position comes from my experience of having cleansed. I really think bowel cleansing can only be best achieved when on a very light diet. What did I not ...
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Then I have to wonder what all the stuff coming out of me was when I was on a 25 day juice fast....? What about the people who perform deep cleasing hydrotherapy and have pieces of their childhood pop out like marbles, lego, pennies and the like? I think there is much more to bowel cleansing and it certainly doesnt have to be expensive to perform. If you have some time; this is an interesting read: http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,663391,00.html   [End]
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Hi, I just bought some 3% solution of H202 and did a little search on storage but the only replies referred to 35%. Are there any tips on how best to store this stuff? Will it be ok in a cool dark place or does it need the fridge? I have been told not to put it in the freezer or it will freeze. Thanks. edit: And is it ok to use metal implements to mix the oxide with water? I cant find any glass pipettes only plastic ones.   [End]
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The best ’water’ is that found in fruits and vegetables! Jucing is brilliant for this (though there are many division on the topic) I find I always feel and look better when I get half my daily ’water’ from freshly made juices, its time consuming on a busy schedual (as well as terribly expensive if buying all organic). I dont have a distiller but I would always remineralise with BSM or concentrace or salt. Sea salt is great for its mineral profile and trace minerals (just watch the potassium antagonism). Has all those trace minerals we need for real health imho.   [End]
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The yokes are better if you’re going to have eggs. Raw is best, of course, its when these things are cooked that they become particularly clogging to the system but raw I find them an incredibly easy to digest form of protein (must be organic). Sprouted seeds are EXCELLENT alternatives, as are leafy greens and lentils (though can be hard on the kidneys). Again, raw milk is a fantastic tonic - only when its processed does it become particularly clogging to the liver and systems. I avoid processed milk at all times (for a number of reasons). Infact, one of the maintainance type flus ...
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Fantastic post, you’ve quelled a worry (and given me ammo for naysayers)! Now all I have to do is deal with those that say it shuts the thyroid down!   [End]
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Hi, Im wondering what dark rings around the outside of each iris (the part nearest the temple) at about 12 o’clock to 6 o’clock could indicate? And what one could do about clearing / reducing the rings? Is it congestion of some kind? They have changed even though I have performed long (30 day) fasts...   [End]
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Unreliable test and no indication of anything according to studies conducted in Japan. As citingsources said, the gold (only) standard test for iodine in body is the iodine urine loading test. Though if you’ve never supplemented / take lots of seafood or kelp then you’re pretty sure to be deficient.   [End]
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Welcome back, Ive missed you. Lights on and beds warmed. Dont let the morons grind you down! *For shame whatever mod in acting in the way Wombie has described* This place really has gone down in my estimation. So many egos.   [End]
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What multi vitamin is it? I’d bin anything that used selenite, personally.   [End]
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Have the ’moon shapes’ on your nails changed size?   [End]
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Thank you very much! I think I may order another IF2 and see how it goes, because the IF one will last several cleanses I should think.   [End]
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Raw eggs are an excellent source of easily digestable protein, they MUST be organic and from healthy chickens. The more you cook them, the harder they are to digest, even stirring begins to denature protein chains in the egg. Some people suggest eating only the yoke of raw eggs. As Warthog rightly states you will find MANY MANY opposing opinons on this issue, it is very divisive. All I will say is, show me a breatharian and I’ll eat air pie.   [End]
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Are you taking selenium?   [End]
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I just got my IF 1 and 2 and realised that the 2 has only enough doses for 5 days. Would this actually be sufficient to remove old matter? Would there be any harm in ordering another tub and doing 10 days? Thanks! (and Thanks to Uni for turning me onto Schulze!)   [End]
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Do we still have the magnet posts or were they lost in the crash? Ive been taking 8 drops twice a day and nothing yet...not even a detox headache...   [End]
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Hey peoples, I know that we’ve often posted / talked about calcification and the process of removing it from our arteries, especially in relation to the potential action iodine may have and the proven action IP6 has on binding to free calcium. Here is an interesting report detailing how high levels of vitamin K1 and K2 supplementation decalcified arteries of animals in experiementation for your perusal: http://www.newstarget.com/021884.html   [End]
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I love your posts. Im off on a raw milk hunt this weekend myself! Very excited as I havent had any in years and miss that wonderful creamy silkyness. Its funny how we change, I used to get fresh milk from a cow when I was in Eire (as a child) and I’d constantly ask my granny if it was ok because it hadnt been heated like the ones in the shops. Now I wont touch pasteurised or homogenised white liquid poision and would give anything to get fresh raw milk back straight from the cow into my glass.   [End]
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Thank you both very much! Fledgling, the lady I know is a ’Touch for Health’ Kinesy too. I was hoping that she could do some sort of muscle testing to narrow down the diagnosis. But balancing energy and stresses and testing for intolerances and such can only be beneficial in the long run! I was just thinking: Isnt maya well versed in kinesiology? Might have to see if she has any recommendations as she’s in the UK too.   [End]
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/agree. Totally absolutely fine.   [End]
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nb: I know this is SUPER off topic and Im sorry, its just I really really respect so many people on the part of CZ and their immense knowledge and experience that I’d appreciate some input from people here if they could spare a moment. So, Ive cleaned up my diet, liver flushed, bowel cleansed, juice fasted, am taking iodine and herbs for detoxification and including nutrient dense foods for minerals and vitamins but im STILL not well after a year and a half. Im finding self diagnosis almost impossible, I simply dont know whats wrong because I have so many vague symptoms ranging from ...
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So, Ive cleaned up my diet, liver flushed, bowel cleansed, juice fasted, am taking iodine and herbs for detoxification and including nutrient dense foods for minerals and vitamins but im STILL not well after a year and a half. Im finding self diagnosis almost impossible, I simply dont know whats wrong because I have so many vague symptoms ranging from chronic fatigue, headaches, bowel issue, heart palpitations/arrythmia, general malaise, joint pain and odd feelings. Its all so non-specific that its driving me mad. I dont care what it takes to cleanse I will do it, I just need focus! ...
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Would those orgone pendants work to generate / stimulate beneficial orgone? Ive always been very interested in resonance but never had the money or time to sort out a setup...I always wanted to try to find the brown note ;-)   [End]
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Personally I find them quite attractive ;-) But, general things related to skin ill health and aging. Dehydration, lack of good oils, lowered collagen production, lack of skin foods (vit C, A,E zinc, B vits, iodine are the main ones). General aging due to imbalance / deficiency of nutrients. Copper is often implicated in wrinkles. Treatment is juicing, plenty of good oils. Topically people have used weak hydroxy acids combined with copper peptide cream to stimulate collagen growth and fill in the lines.   [End]
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Hey V, What was your dose? What effects did it have? I know you are a fan of IP6, would just be very interested to hear how you found it as Im still trying to work out exactly what is wrong and fix it. Thanks.   [End]
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Yes, this moderation is driving me mad. WE WERE FINE BEFORE. Can we not just be left in peace?   [End]
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Has anyone used this product by Waiora for chelation? What are peoples experiences / thoughts on using it for removing heavy metals? Im still really really not sure whats wrong with me and thought it might help. Thanks. Chardy   [End]
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This is UTTERLY ridiculous! How can you remove the person who brought this to our attention? Why such over moderation? Explainations, please!   [End]
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Please KEEP posting! Whoever moderated that was wrong, imho and should own up. You’re showing us some VERY VERY valuable information, which SUPPORTs liver flushing, surely the best thing we can do is get to a point where we dont produce any more stones. Please stay and ignore the over zealous moderation.   [End]
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I’d love the book (or a copy of therein) and would pay for it....maybe the new owner could make a nice sideline selling that ;-)   [End]
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My friend says that people should look at liver flushing as ’non-invasive surgery’ which I think would be an excellent way to instill respect to ensure that people dont rush into doing them and dont do them without sufficient breaks in between. Im also trying to understand why we keep reforming stones (the waxy oily ones, rather than gallstones) and if its some deficiency or dietary problem. Research done on the iodine support forum suggests that sufficient iodine intake and storage in the body may prevent the reformation of such stones. Time and more research will tell... Also, I th ...
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I too think some raw egg yolk would be good, very, very nourishing for the skin. You may also want to switch to a rebuilding diet, rather than a cleansing. I also think some photos would be very useful too.   [End]
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That is interesting. I know that Trapper has reported on the iodine forum that no matter how long he has spent in the hot sun he hasnt burnt or reddened. I certainly dont burn as much as I used to in the hot summer, but I am VERY fair skinned.   [End]
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MH, I know you dont ship herb products to the UK but will you ship books? Thanks   [End]
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Found this when having a look about for wrinkles and grey hair: http://www.pamrotella.com/health/copper.html (Though Im not convinced by Wallach generally....) I have wrinkles around my eyes and Im only 23! Its a bit frustrating, I take BSM for the minerals (highish in copper) but wonder if its too antagonised by the iron. I also have organic cocoa and wheat germ oil. Copper is one of those ones that seems to really divide people, some say dont supplement as many already have too high levels and others say we are very deficient... I know that copper peptide creams are good for ...
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Thanks for the replies. I agree with Telman, I’d like more debate on this one generally. I see it as a lower level maintainance flush with very good nutritional benefits (raw eggs are fantastic - especially the yoke). My liver area is feeling fine again today, before bed I had a couple of tablespoons of oil to see if that would help it out (with a bit of ES an hour or so before). I think it will certainly have its place in my protocol because Ive noticed it working. The physical feeling of the liver and gb gurgling after consumption, my eyes are much whiter and my under eye bags ...
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Schulze’s cleanses are very very good, but also very powerful. He has used them to ’cure’ cancer and a host of other life threatening condition (including his own). The cramping does sound like a reaction to the senna or Cascara as they are designed to cause (mild) peristalsis. I would switch to another weaker herbal formula, it may be that either you arent ready for the herbs, arent taking them correctly, have a dietary deficiency or that they are too strong for you. I would still try Schulze’s formula 2 though, if you have it. You may never even need one and could try the weaker Fo ...
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No, again, its very poorly absorbed and inorganic. It also often contains aluminium compounds and they’re toxic.   [End]
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This is the book mark I have for it: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=806758#i   [End]
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Hi all, been using the standard LF protocol for over a year (about 8 flushes) and decided to try the one which uses eggs, lime and oil for the first time yesterday. Body did it work... about 3 hours after (I’d taken a fibre shake about 2 hours after) I had a very strong urge to eliminate and an odd BM came out black and red, the end of it was very pale (indicating lack of bile...) I did another one this morning (following the several day protocol) and was well until a few hours ago and now I feel very ’full’ in the liver area. Assuming that the flush is doing something but possibly n ...
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The mag in ES is very very poorly absorbed, it functions to draw saline into the colon and force expulsion, it isnt sufficient at a mag supplement. I’d suggestion mag citrate, mag malate, mag glycinate, mag taurate. A combination of various oganically bound mag is better than just one by itself imho. You may have to watch calcium if you supplement mag, people have varying reactions. I do well on extra mag but my friend suffers from pain after exercise and excessive tiredness. Overall I’d say its a fairly harmless supplement though, as many are deficient.   [End]
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Thanks! I have tried the grapeseed extract without much effect so far. I read a lot about vitamin K being good, and have almost sourced a pharmeceutical cream with a larger percentage K than in herbal ones (the use it post op to reduce bruising). I’ll investigate the pine bark, I know I can get it in pills, but the topical cream might be harder. Appreciate your reply.   [End]
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Sounds like kinesiology, which is muscle testing. I know that some people respect this form of feedback, but I havent had any experience of it either way so I make no comment on its efficacy or validity.   [End]
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I guess it works differently if you’re ML who has outed several peoples numbers and gotten away with it. I suppose his recent BANNING was for something else, then.   [End]
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Mine arrived this morning! Thanks to everyone for the replies :D Great service as always RG.   [End]
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I have spider veins which are proving very annoying. Currently on a juice fast and taking herbal mix of japanese pagoda, horse chestnut and butchers broom - supposedly for improving vein conditions. Take some very hot cayenne and ginger in my juices everyday. Apply a cream with vitamin K to close off the vein, again, to no effect. Is there anything anyone can suggest that I might be lacking in nutrient wise, or that I could try to see if it will ameliorate this condition? Run three times a week and exercise around this. Do people think niacin flushing might help? Thanks.   [End]
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Do you ship internationally to the UK? How much would postage cost with IF 1 and IF 2 and superfood? How is payment made? Thanks   [End]
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Organic isnt without pesticides, it just means a reduction in the number and type of pesticides used. At least thats the standards here in Europe, as afaik we’re a bit stricter than the US on regulations (we havent been hit as hard by conglomerate GM and monsanto hormones).   [End]
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Hey RG, Just wondering how long (roughly of course) humaworm would take to get to the UK? Thanks.   [End]
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Benefitting how?   [End]
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