This article actually made me concerned. The meals were identical except one used coconut oil as the main fat and the other used safflower oil: ”One meal was high in saturated fat — using coconut oil — and the other was high in polyunsaturated fat — using safflower oil.”   [End]
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I had dry cracked flaking feet when I took a 2 week break from oil pulling (vacation). Now, 2 months later I rembered to look again and the dry flaking is completely gone! Pretty interesting therapy.   [End]
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Yes, I’ve been tested for diabetes but found no results. I’ve actually made a lot of progress since I posted that question. Although I was unwilling to admit it, I’ve realized that I have anxiety and that that is what is causing my frequent urination. I checked the anxiety forum and someone recommended a book called ”Freedom from Fear” by Howard Liebgold. I’ve been reading it and rereading it; it is definitely the best thing I’ve ever read about anxiety and it offers a real cure. All it takes is patience and commitment. I’m definitely noticing some huge improvement!   [End]
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What yahoo forum did you get the boot from?   [End]
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Oops, nevermind.   [End]
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I agree. I plan in a maximum of two cheat meals per week. Keeps my sanity and allows me to go out to eat without getting too uptight.   [End]
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Are you a female? 9% body fat seems too low for a female, doesn’t it?   [End]
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1) Exercise: I run 3x a week and do a full body weight training 2x a week. I keep challenging myself to improve in both. 2) I eat 6 cups of low starch veggies a day. 3) I eat 4-6 servings of fruits a day. 4) I eat 5-6 smallish meals a day (with some lean protein at every meal). This keeps my metabolism up and keeps any cravings for bad food at bay. 5) I drink around 12 glasses of water per day. I don’t drink any calories 6) I eat a moderate amount of healthy fat (fish oil, olive oil, avocado). 7) I limit my cheat meals to 2 per week. I’m a big believer in written goal setting. ...
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I haven’t noticed any weight loss, but I really don’t have much left to lose (I’m around 9% bf).   [End]
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I get the black flecks in my toilet as well. Just as you described, not when I spit but sometime later.   [End]
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I’m reading all the threads about how to consume coconut oil. You guys don’t like just eating it? This is absolutely delicious. It’s my treat or dessert after a meal (it reminds me of a mounds bar without the chocolate). I’m being completely serious here. Nobody else just eats it?   [End]
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Up until now I’ve been pulling with sunflower oil. This morning I tried sesame oil (refined) for the first time. I was surprised how mild the flavor was. Very different from the toasted sesame oil my wife sometimes uses in her cooking. I couldn’t really tell any diffence except a very minor difference in the flavor of the oils. Unless I notice something different, after this bottle runs out I’ll probably go back to sunflower since it is considerably cheaper.   [End]
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I don’t normally pay much attention to my feet, but I can see they are in pretty bad shape being cracked, cauloused, etc. from running both in running shoes and cleats. I just got back from a 1 week vacation where I didn’t pull. I’ll report back either way. Take care...   [End]
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Why not all three? I take green tea and ACV. They are both good in different ways. I can’t speak to Kumbucha because I haven’t tried it.   [End]
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Great news! Thanks for sharing. Anyone else have a dentist story?   [End]
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Sounds like you had an OBE, not an alien abduction. http://www.lucidity.com/NL32.OBEandLD.html   [End]
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Fantastic. I’m having great results from my swishing and my cold symptoms. Woke up congested and I took my oregano oil and did 20 minutes of swishing and now I’m 90% better. I haven’t even stopped exercising or felt the need to sleep more (which I normally need to do when I’m sick).   [End]
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Sunflower has almost zero taste. I would highly recommend it.   [End]
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thanks for the feedback. What kind of oil are you using? I’m definately not getting increased mucus.   [End]
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Wow, you guys are impressive. It’s really great talking with others who really care about their health. Anyone interesting in a general health forum here on curezone? Talk about things that work and things that don’t? Talk about when we cheat and what annoys us about other?   [End]
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Here is what else I’m up to: I’m 30 years old. The bulk of my diet is vegetables, fruits, beans. Lots of running and some weightlifting Therapies Liver flushes Bowel cleanse Colonics Chiropractic Supplements: Multivitamin Fish oil Aged Garlic extract Ginger extract Turmeric extract Green tea extract powder Vitamin C Magnesium Apple Cider vinegar Blackstrap Molasses   [End]
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. I’ll probably try it again the next chance I have to take a bath. Very interesting results with the spider veins and scars!   [End]
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I’ve had a cold the last 4 days, but it has been so mild I was only sure it was a cold yesterday. I don’t feel any of the cold’s core achiness or fatigue. At first it felt like very mild allegies. Last night my nose was a bit stuffy in one nosteril. As I’m pulling the congestion seems to clear a bit. Another interesting observation: the oil is also much much thinner and whiter and foamier for the same length of pulling time. Happy pulling,   [End]
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Interesting. I’ve taken epsom salt baths before with 3 cups of epsom salt and a small amount of baking soda. However, I didn’t get the murky water. Maybe next time I should purchase a big cosco sized baking soda and see what the results are. Shouldn’t I get the murky water just with the epsom?   [End]
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This is interesting. Anyone tried borage oil for pulling?   [End]
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Can you let us know if there is anything new or interesting that has yet to be covered?   [End]
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That was a very cool message! Thanks for sharing it with us.   [End]
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infant mortality used to be how they tweaked the numbers. now they just boldfaced lie. why not? it works. people believe it. right along with the government will take care of you, doctors take an oath to do no harm, and milk does a body good.   [End]
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Will it just kill parasites in your mouth or in other organs as well?   [End]
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Sign up for a colonic ASAP. I had a similar problem and a colonic was the only thing that helped.   [End]
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I’m at two weeks of oil pulling. I have some other health things going on right now so it is hard to tell what the oil pulling is doing for me. One of which is completely quiting caffeine (on day 9 of no caffeine). I was quite an addict so this is a big move for me. I was really hoping the oil pulling would give me some energy to help with the fatigue! :) My mouth and teeth feel cleaner. I also bought some oregano oil and love the tingly natural freshness it give my mouth.   [End]
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This will likely always be the case (nobody is perfect). The key is moderation. Eat very healthy 99% of the time and enjoy the 1%! :) btw, I’m on day 9 of zero caffeine (I hope the worst is over). Best of health to you!   [End]
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Does caffeine put a stress on the liver becuase it has to detoxify the caffeine? I’m on day 9 with zero caffeine, but I’m wondering if I should add in a cup or two of green tea or decaf green tea.   [End]
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Thanks for posting that Molly. I guess I was on the right track to spit it out every 5 minutes. I wonder why everyone recommends oil pulling only on an empty stomach? Hmmm... Seceond point: Although olive oil is on his list, I’ll stick with sunflower oil because all the experts seem to agree this will work, it’s cheaper, and it has a milder flavor. Happy swishing all...   [End]
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This has never happened to me. After all these testimonies I wonder if swishing oil increases bile production? Bile is laxative. Also people report having worse liver flushes. hmmm...   [End]
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that happened to me the first day, then again yesterday ( don’t know if related) but I felt like it was a detox action!   [End]
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You made me want to try the oregano oil. I’ll look for it next time I’m at the health food store.   [End]
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I spit out the oil some time after it becomes thin and watery. It becomes watery after 2-3 minutes and I spit it out after 5. I could keep swishing the whole 20 minutes with the watery white stuff, but that doesn’t seem like it would be that effective. Anyways I’ve been pulling for least 20 minutes a day for two weeks now and have noticed my teeth feel smoother (less plaque buildup). I’m still waiting for the whitening to take place. How long has that taken for everyone? Happy pulling everyone!   [End]
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Fantastic! I’ve always enjoyed reading your posts. Lets hope 25 is your magice number :)   [End]
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Yes, after doing a lot of flushes (probably my 14th or so), my chiropractor was able to adjust a vertebre in my mid back (easily), that before he was never able to move. My theory is my liver was enlarged from all the stones and was creating pressure that shifted my spine to the right (can easily see the spine shift on the xray).   [End]
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Do NOT attempt a liver cleanse if you are constipated! It could cause serious problems as the stones have nowhere to go. They could get stuck in a bile duct or cause extreme discomfort. First cleanse your bowel completely before doing a liver flush. I would recommend colonics, oxypowder, and drinking a lot of water. Nothing cleanses your large intestines like colonics. They are amazing. Oxypowder is good because it cleanses your small and large intestines. However, I was a amazed at what came out after 2 colonics. This was after I had 2 one week oxypowder cleanses and a month o ...
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Thanks for the responses. I’ve been swishing and I got some really dry itchy eyes over the weekend and was wondering if it was related since I haven’t got any allergies in years. Thankfully I pulled out my neti pot I’ve been neglecting recently and that solved the problem!   [End]
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Anyone have any detox or side effects from oil swishing?   [End]
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I had a bad case of a nervous stomach probably triggered by stress. I couldn’t go out to eat with others because I would worry about getting nauseous (i would often actually have to go to the bathroom to get sick). Even with my parents I wouldn’t feel good. You know what cured it? Lifting weights. It is a miracle cure. I do a full body routine focusing on squats, bench presses, and weighted pullups. Amazing outlet for stress and my anxiety is gone!   [End]
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Hi guys, Just wondering if anyone here has had any experience with parasites in their muscles and if they were able to get rid of them. I did various intestinal cleanses (and I think they worked) but a handful of these critters have somehow escaped/migrated to various muscle areas: back, chest, rear end, thighs. They’re quite painful, very disturbing and occasionally frightening. Anyway, I did a course of mebendazole as well with some but not total success. I ordered a zapper to give it a try, though that seems a bit far fetched to me at this point. Any other ideas from anyon ...
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I took the recommended dose the first time I tried it. Since then I’ve upped it to double the recommended dosage. Good luck!   [End]
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I take it right before I take the olive oil and lemon water (keep in mind I use capsules so they act a bit slower than tincture).   [End]
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About $35? :) I really don’t know but oxypowder sure is expensive.   [End]
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I’ll give some alternatives that work just as well. All these require downing the oil one tablespoon at a time chased by an acidic drink. I actually find this preferable to the blended concoction. I’ve tried lemon water, apple cider vinegar water, and grapefruit juice as chasers. The apple cider vinegar seemed to be the most effective.   [End]
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Interesting question. I’ve never tried enemas, but I am curious to hear the answer.   [End]
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I think it is appropriate to be skeptical. My first 3 flushes (of about 15) I flushed the soft green balls (a smaller amount each time). After that I never got anymore of the green soft stones. Since I’ve flushed out more solid stones and gritty sandy stuff. Most of them are relatively small (pea sized or smaller). I can actually feel them coming out of my liver and I can see them in my stool (they sink to the bottom). I squeezed one and it is hard and doesn’t not squish like the soap stones. It seems like the liver ”decongests” during the first few flushes, then gets cleaned ou ...
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I get this too and only from epsom salt. It’s interesting because I don’t get it from even large doses of magnesium citrate (or oxypowder).   [End]
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I have expelled stones without a flush. Apple cider vinegar actually caused stones to come out. I believe these stones are loosened from there stuck position with liver flushes and are ready to pop out.   [End]
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You can use apple cider vinegar instead of apple juice. About 3-4 tablespoons dilluted in water works for me. I’ve never used apple juice. I also never fast. I try to eat slightly lighter, but I always eat. I’ve had many many successful flushes this way (almost done flushing). I would definately recommend you eat. Make sure you have ginger ready after the olive oil lemon drink in case you have nausea. Also try to have the epsom salt in something flavored so it doesn’t taste so bad.   [End]
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You can, but I think it is riskier. The magnesium citrate doesn’t seem to dialate my bile ducts as well (no scientific evidence, just less discomfort with the epsom salt). Also the purging action of the epsom salt helps get the toxins out quickly so the reabsorbtion is minimal.   [End]
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I never do the morning doses of epsom and am getting excellent results. I only do 1-2 tablespoons at night. I’ve also experimented with no epsom (only magnesium citrate pills). However, this was inferior to the epsom salts.   [End]
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The best things you can do is drink water, have a healthy diet and exercise. As far as supplements go you might try milk thistle. But remember the essentials are diet and exercise.   [End]
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I’m not surprised at all that you passes a stone after taking epsom salt.   [End]
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Best of luck with your flushes. I only had nausea until I discovered ginger. I take 12 pills before the olive oil / lemon and have no nausea. It gets easier with every flush!   [End]
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I only had the soft green stones my first 3 flushes. After that, no more soft green stones! I am still getting calcified stones and gravel.   [End]
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Try a chiropractor first. It is unlikely that a 4 year old’s allergies will be caused by liver stones.   [End]
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If it is juiced I would take it right after the olive oil. You can make some extra to take later if you feel nauseated during the night. If I take the pills I usually take it before the OO because 1) it takes longer for powder to take affect, 2) I hate taking pills when I’m already nauseated!   [End]
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Nice post. Good reason to give time (at least 2 weeks) in between the flushes. Allows the body time to find equalibrium again.   [End]
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Nice post. Good reason to give time (at least 2 weeks) in between the flushes. Allows the body time to find equalibrium again.   [End]
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I have the best luck on my back. I think the important thing is to relax and stick to a position and not move around. For the ginger I would recommend taking the pills right before the olive oil. You don’t want to be swallowing pills when you are already feeling nauseated. If it is fresh ginger you can take it anytime.   [End]
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If it says not for ingestion, DO NOT ingest it. It could be impure. If you have trouble finding epsom salt for internal use, take a large dose (100-200% of daily requirement) of magnesium pills instead (magnesium oxide or magnesium citrate).   [End]
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Make sure you get the epsom salt that is for internal use!   [End]
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I would definately take at least some epsom salt. I only take 1 tablespoon 1.5-2 hours before the olive oil. I beleive Clark recommends a total of 4 tablespoons which is just too much for me (possibly becauese take daily magnesium supplements). 1/2 cup of oil is plenty. If you take more you will likely just make yourself even more nauseated. Another thing to take is ginger root. I take 12 500mg pills right before my olive oil. This helps tremendously with the nausea and also helps stimulate bile.   [End]
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For flushing I always take close to my tolerance of ginger (too much and my stomach has a burning feeling). For pills I take 12 500mg pills. For fresh ginger I chew 4 to 6 quarter inch slices of about an inch and half diameter root. I don’t use black walnut extract, but I would check the faq.   [End]
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I use the Bragg brand. I take about 3-4 tablespoons in 64 oz of water 3-4 times a day (so 9-12 tablespoons or so total per day, I don’t measure exactly). Often instead of water I use a homemade fresh brewed iced green tea (I was doing this the same way before the ACV). Hope this helps.   [End]
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I posted a similar message to the liver flush forum, but I thought it would be of interest here as well. I started drinking apple cider vinegar last week and it is causing my liver to contract and push out stones! I notice immediately after consuming my ACV and water mixture that I feel the familar contractions and stones traveling just like when I drink my Olive Oil/lemon mixture (slightly less intense like a miniflush). I have also been able to see some calcified stones in the toilet. Last week it was a bit uncomfortable (probably because I didn’t take Epsom salts to relax the bile ...
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I use Bragg’s. I drink it throughout the day with my water (and put it in my green tea as well). I probably drink a half a cup or so over the course of the day. I dilute it to 3-4 tablespoons per 64oz. I drink about 3-4 of those per day.   [End]
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I started drinking apple cider vinegar last week and it is causing my liver to contract and push out stones! I notice amount immediately after consuming my ACV and water mixture that I feel the familar contractions and stones traveling just like when I drink my OO/lemon mixture (slightly less intense like a miniflush). I have also been able to see some calcified stones in the toilet. Last week it was a bit uncomfortable (probably because no ES to relax the bile ducts). But this week it is getting better. I’m still going to do the Clark method every 2-4 weeks until I’m clear becaus ...
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I always had various degrees of nausea until I starting using lots of ginger root right before I drink the olive oil. I now always down 12 ginger root pills for every flush. The flushes are much much nicer with no nausea. The ginger also helps make the flush more productive by stimulating bile production! I also down the oil a tablespoon at a time and chase it immediately with grapefruit juice or lemon water (I’ve done is both ways). I find this much preferable to downing the mixture. Best of luck!   [End]
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No, you don’t have to. The idea is that the toxins from the filing will continue to cause problems. But this is a slow process so you are totally fine flushing first.   [End]
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I would expect that your immune system would improve once you have *recovered* from the flush. However, the day or two after the flush you would be more vulnerable due to your body dealing the toxins being reabsorbed from the stones.   [End]
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If you are constipated, I would recommend an oxygen based cleanser (oxypowder is my favorite) until you are regular. P & B shakes are good, but can be constipating (NOT good if you have that tendency). I would only take it for a week and skip the mainanence does they recommend. The maintaince dosage they recommend is waste of money imho.   [End]
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Pain can be a funny thing. The source may be in one area, yet you feel it in another. Because the pain happened on the night of the flush, its a really good bet its related to the flush. It sounds like you dislodged a calcified stone that didn’t completely make it out of your liver. It may take a few flushes, but you should be able to get it out. Make sure you take the epsom salts to dialate your bile ducts.   [End]
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Pain can be a funny thing. The source may be in one area, yet you feel it in another. Because the pain happened on the night of the flush, its a really good bet its related to the flush. It sounds like you dislodged a calcified stone that didn’t completely make it out of your liver. It may take a few flushes, but you should be able to get it out. Make sure you take the epsom salts to dialate your bile ducts.   [End]
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Where did you hear that? It’s exactly the opposite of the truth as long as we are talking about organic fruits and veggies.   [End]
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The epsom salts take a some time to work. The olive oil and lemon work pretty quickly.   [End]
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The vitamin C powder is from capsules I just open up and dump the powder into my drink. BTW, I’ve tried with vitmin C pills and it didn’t dissolve well.   [End]
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I have always done my flushing at night right before bed on a fairly empty stomach. I haven’t personally tried it at other times, so I really can’t comment. I also take magnesium citrate every night. For the mini flushes I just take a slightly larger dose one hour before the mini flush. For the regular flushes I use epsom salt. I chase the OO with strong lemon water. I’ve done the miniflushes after the regular flushes when I still feel the stones in my liver. Sometimes I have some midback tenderness from stones being dislodged but not completely moved out. I prepare by taking m ...
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Next time get some ginger root (or pills) to help with the nausea. I usually take 10 pills or so with every flush. Ginger is also supposed to make the flush more effective as it stimilates more bile.   [End]
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By the way, I looked at my pills again and I take around 500mg, not 1500mg of magnesium citrate!   [End]
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Surley, Based on my research it is difficult to overdose on magnesium. You just eliminate (poop out) the excess. I don’t have any problems with my dosage, but your bowel tolerance may be different. I haven’t heard of magnesium taurate, magnesium citrate is more popular.   [End]
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I take magnesium citrate (1500mg) for my daily magnesium intake. For liver flushing I seem to get the best results with epsom salts. It could be when my poo is liquid it’s easier to see the stones so it appears that I have a more successful flush. I believe the dosage of epsom is a very individual thing. The main purpose is it supposedly relaxes the bile duct allowing it to enlarge for the stones to pass through. As a side benefit it gets the stones out quicker so the they don’t have a chance to get reabsorbed. I would take daily magnesium citrate supplements and seem if that mak ...
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I just wanted to repeat a couple of tips that change liver flushing from nauseating and horrible tasting to easily tolerable. The first two are the most important: 1) GINGER. Eating a bit of fresh ginger (or taking a liberal supply of ginger pills) helps totally eliminate the nausea for me. No nausea at all in 4 flushes! Also ginger helps stimulate bile to make the flush more productive. 2) MASK the espom salt flavor. I tried vitamin C powder like Dr. Clark suggests and it is a huge improvement. If you aren’t sugarphobic like me I’ve also heard organic apple juice is good. Thi ...
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I agree. This sounds like a legitimate use of antibiotics. One the infection is cured I would look into ways of boosting your health naturally through more liver flushing, bowel cleansing, eating right, etc. Best of luck   [End]
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My last two liver flushes I could feel the stones traveling out of my liver. It’s not unconfortable, just feels weird. Anyone else?   [End]
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We need more information if we are going to help. What products are you using for the colon cleanse? Are you experiencing any constipation?   [End]
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This is my 3rd day of my oxypowder cleanse. The first day I took 6 pills and then 8 from then on. The first day looked mostly like very soft tan poo. Yesterday and today I have been releasing dark dark green muscus junk. It looks black in the toilet and green on the paper. Woo-hoo. Just 3 weeks ago I ended a 3 week P&B cleanse doing 5 shakes per day. I had a lot of volume of poo with this and a few weird things like undigested corn and what looked like white rice. I’ll do liver flush at the end of my cleanse. Hopefully it will be a good one. Conclusions: The oxypowder is g ...
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I found significant improvement of my acne after my first liver flush (I’ve done 4 more since). I did it before any bowel cleanse because I didn’t have any real issues there.   [End]
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I too was a bit skeptical. Here is what I can tell you: I had adult acne which all but vanished after my 1st flush. I had maybe 60 of the green cholesterol stones. The second flush I had maybe 20 stones. The next 3 flushes had no stones.   [End]
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I tried this for my liver flush last night. It mixed *much* better than lemon juice and tasted much much better. Hurray for grapefruit juice.   [End]
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That’s a good data point. I’ll be on the lookout next week. Thanks!   [End]
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I did do a parasite program (paragon) and 5 liver flushes. The liver flushes were a real eye opener. The first 3 I got lots of green cholesterol stones out. The last 2 flushes were clean so I figured I got everything. The liver flushes did improve my complexion noticably. However, I was hoping the bowel cleanse would do the same thing for my gas and possibly improve my complexion even more. How long should I continue the P&B shakes to make sure its going to give me all the benefit it is going to give? I was thinking of continuing at least unti ...
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How soon should I start seeing muicoid plaque after starting 5 shakes per day? I’m on my 3rd day of 5 shakes per day. I’m tolerating it very well which I credit to the advice of drinking a glass of water after every shake. I’m getting some good movements, but nothing that looks like plaque. Although it does looking I’m passing some calcified stones, but it could just be food particles since I’m not going to handle my feces. Also some look like hard grains of white rice (I don’t eat rice). Anyways on average how many days does it take? Background: I don’t have any huge problems. ...
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I have had 3 successful flushes and have not fasted for them. I just eat a slightly lighter dinner the night of the flush. About an hour before I drink 1 tablespoon of epsom salts, wait about an hour and drink the olive oil with a lemon juice and water chaser. It’s easy and it works. If you feel nausea, try drinking ginger tea.   [End]
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How many flushes do I need to do initially? I’m 29 and take pretty good care of myself (exercise daily, drink .5-1 gallon of water per day, eat tons of veggies, etc.) I’ve done one liver flush and got maybe 20-30 green soft ”stones” out. Do you keep flushing every two weeks until no stones come out?   [End]
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I actually drink quite a bit of green tea (jasmine). I make about three mugs worth and mix it with 64oz of water. I drink this throughout the day as I’m working. Also in the mornings I add green tea extract to my frozen fruit, frozen veggie, ground flax seed, and fat free cottage cheese smoothie. The benefits of green tea are very well researched and accepted (even by the mainstream medical community). I would drink the oolong and buy green tea next time.   [End]
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I’m taking these chorophyl pills 3x a day for the past 2 weeks and my skin has really cleared up. I’ve also switched from coffee to green tea at the same time. Anyone else get cured by either of these? I can’t believe I still have to deal with this at 29 :)   [End]
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