Hello:

"It is so painful when they do that and I wonder if its them moving around that hurts, or if they are really eating "flesh"?"

I believe that it is both. Even the smallest of things embedded into the flesh, like a tiny splinter, can cause pain and irritation. The body is their food source as parasites.

Sorry if this is lengthy..

I've jotted down notes in a notebook each day for quite a few months now- little did I know when I started this, how many months I would be jotting down notes--but I'm still effectively killing them, which is a good thing.

There's no doubt about the parasites being more active prior to, during, and for several days following a full moon. I know what you mean 70428, I will NEVER again look at a calendar and not be aware of when the full moon is due. I am trying to find the specific information, but they say the reason they are most active during that time, is that it's when they are mating- yuck huh? I've read alot of HeyJude's old posts on the P. Forum, you may remember her on there- and she talked alot about hitting them harder during that time. THAT is what I have been found to be true. I have truly gotten some major kills by increasing everything, adding stuff to the parasite killing program going into a full moon each month! If I will increase the dosages of the herbals, do more zapping, take some oils at bedtime- ozonated oil, coconut oil, or castor oil have all worked very well...along with Sytemic Systems Chinese Wormseed Oil drops/Pure Oregano Oil drops in a capsule- Hitting them with something just a bit different than what you may have been taking prior to that week seems to help too. Catch them offguard, and from a different angle.

For example--I knew the Full Moon was scheduled for Sunday. I've had good luck doing this before, so I planned it this way....
Doing a liver flush about 5 days prior to the scheduled Full Moon, not only moves out any stones...but I've found that it also is a good time to hit any then exposed parasites/eggs that may have thought they were hiding in the liver. I always hit them harder for a couple of days following a liver flush.

I did the liver flush on Tuesday, and didn't get alot of stones, but I did get stones still.
I've found that following a liver flush with a coffee enema too, there is always alot more stones/sand that I flush out.

I have not been on just one herbal dewormer, with the load of parasites I've had, the Alt Health Dr has had been on several different products at one time, homeopathic remedies, oils, Lugol's, zapping...different things work at different times.

Because I had ran out of a couple of the products, and they were being mailed to me from the Alt. Health Dr.. and hadn't arrived yet, but knowing I really wanted to increase anti-parasite things...I, once again, started making the raw juice that I knew had killed roundworms in the past--but I hadn't done it for several months, for some reason. It's out of the book "Raw juices can save your life" and it's not fun to drink--but I've killed worms before with it, along with taking the herbals...cabbage, apple, spinach, ginger root, garlic and pomegranate juice. Because my husband was camping out with the Scout's over night...I threw in extra cloves of garlic--juiced 4-5 of them...plus, put a couple more in a green salad...and I did that two days in a row. The 2nd day, my husband was back from camping, and it ran him off...but I was determined to get a bunch of raw garlic in me...stink or not :( That, in combination with the raw cabbage juice--phew, I don't know how any worms could live with the gas it makes!

Along with that...the VRM2 from Systemic Formulas--specific for Roundworm, it has Bromelain in it and the protocal is to not eat ANY red meat the duration of the program--(which I haven't had since the first of Dec..if it means killing roundworms, I'll follow the protocal, and live on chicken for as long as I need to!)Believe me, it's not easy- we own a ranch, and have our own grassfed-prime beef...my husband has tenderloin thawing out for himself right now...

In reading some of the information I had been finding effective for round worms--I found that the VRM2 also contains the Bethyl Nut...and I found on a bottle of Parasite herbal formula that I, for whatever reason, hadn't been using that the Dr. had given me that he was using personally. Ficin, the fig enzyme, was one of the ingredients in it--which we've been discussing too. AND, this same product- "Intestinal Freedom" from American Biologics...ALSO has bromelain/Papain, along with the Ficin. So, I started taking 4 of them morning and night as well...
One thing I've learned too with the Bromelain/Papain enzymes in being effective in killing the roundworms/tapeworms..is to give it 3 hours of time with no protein in your digestive system for it to work on the worms. Zymex 2 from Standard Process is for Tapeworm..and that's what it is--enzymes--the same ones, bromelain/papain and ficin.
There's other good anti-parasite things in the Intestinal Freedom that are different from what I have been using. I'll try to post the ingredients just so you can see what it contains. Quassia Bark is one herbal that is in both of the VRM products..the VRM4 that I have been out of is specific for Fluke. The other dewormer I've found to work well for me, that is The Liver Dr. (Sandra Cabot's) Intestinal Parasite cleanse- and that's another one that I did an increase in this week.

There's no doubt that the quality of the herbs, the freshness, potency etc makes a BIG difference- and I do feel that even though they have been more costly, the products the Dr. prefers for use are of good quality, and aren't going to be found on a counter in a health food store.

AND..R.E's...when we stopped at the store..I got 2 packages of Mission Figs (Fig enzymes), which you had mentioned in the post below too...and started eating figs.

I have also been taking 2 TB of castor oil at bedtime for the past 3-4 nights...along with Systemic Formulas Chinese Worm Oil drops (which contains several different oils), and 10 drops of Professional strength pure Oregano Oil- which I built up to.. in a capsule. Plus I have been zapping daily with the Parazapper with the footpads/handholds.

SURE ENOUGH...I got another one of the older roundworms this morning. I tried to get a good picture of it, but it wouldn't take close enough up to see what it really looks like. It was exactly like the 36" one that I killed, and several other "smaller" ones that I've killed. This one was 12", and as thick as one of my fingers- just like the big one. Looked like a twisted rope.

Hulda Clark says in her Clark cleanup info about Ascaris, that it can take a couple of weeks for the body of a large ascaris to disintigrate. You think of the ascaris as being what the pictures above look like--the white worms--but I'm also sure that what these kills are is also large, older ascaris..and when they have been killed, the skin comes off and is eliminated first- and what I've eliminated, more than once, is the stained/slightly petrified, brown body. I know the difference between worm and mucoid plaque, and it's worm.

I know that the large ascaris can lay dormant in the intestines, not moving, and undetected for a long time- but taking in your nutrition.

So..I'm happy, all the extra effort, researching, increasing, has paid off for another full moon. I'll keep it up for several more days..but I do agree with RB's with something she told me she knew about taking the herbal stuff. It helps to go lighter at times...hit them harder at times...add some different ingredients to not be taking the same exact stuff all the time--and I've definetly found that it has worked best for me through all the ones I've killed, and continue to kill..that taking several products together works well.

I've done the Clark cleanup two different times- with the "lightly" ozonated oil, 1500 Mg of L-cysteine per day for 3 weeks..and the 3-4,000 mg of pharmaceutical grade Coq10 every few days for several weeks. I had great success with it...but still didn't get things totally cleaned up, even if it's called "clean-up". It's not a cheap thing to do either..but it did work well.

Just wanted to share a few things that have worked for me this past week. I don't know if I will ever be totally cleaned up from these things, but I have a lot lighter load of them than when I started. I have killed a big bunch of these things! And that's just what I HAVE seen with my bare eye- imagine what I HAVEN'T seen--microbials etc... And my liver is in much, much better shape! Now if I can just get my small intestines cleaned up of them! I know where they are at!

Looking at any pictures of worms..like the ones of the ascaris just posted..makes the damned things get excited and dance and vibrate in there! No kidding! I can't look up pictures of them on the internet without the same thing happening!!

Hi Monique

You say - "I hate them so much"


YOU AND I BOTH!!


Regards.

70428.