Blood Hormone Tests 
#91249
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Hey, sorry to bother you again, i know your not fond of the accurancy in blood hormone tests but im eager to have some just to see what the results are if anything is majorly showing. What should i have done being a male.
http://www.medichecks.com/index.cfm?s=2&d=19&thc=9
testosterone
bioavailable testosterone
should i have any of the estrogen ones or leutenizing hormone?
bloody shocking that my doctor isnt giving me one especially as ive never had one done in 7 years or ever actually.
cheers again
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- Re: Blood Hormone Tests Hveragerthi
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Hormone tests are actually some of the least accurate of all lab tests. Levels can fluctuate instantly. For example racing around someone on the road to try and get ahead of them can create an immediate testosterone surge. This is why I prefer to rely more on symptoms than lab tests. Hormone testing is primarily done as an excuse to sell more drugs. Just like they tell you to fast before getting a blood draw, but they tell you that you can have coffee. But coffee raises your cholesterol, blood sugar, blood pressure, PSA counts........ And we all know how quick doctors are to write scripts based on one high reading. I am surprised they don't just drop an anvil on your foot then prescribe you pain killers. Same principle, create the problem so they have an excuse to prescribe a drug for it.
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- Pure Hegelian in nature! infinitelove
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This is a reply to # 1,608,545"Same principle, create the problem so they have an excuse to prescribe a drug for it"
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- Re: Blood Hormone Tests #91249
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This is a reply to # 1,608,545aye sadly seems the case, although if test came back very low it would be good enough to indicate that was a problem or still not accurate?
- Re: Blood Hormone Tests Hveragerthi
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aye sadly seems the case, although if test came back very low it would be good enough to indicate that was a problem or still not accurate?
One test does not a diagnosis make. Tests like these really require a series of tests to confirm a chronically low condition. Otherwise false diagnoses will be common. For example studies have shown that when a man's favorite team loses his testosterone levels will drop. Does this mean he has chronically low testosterone? Of course not. And if several tests were made over a period of time then this fact would be seen.
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- Re: Blood Hormone Tests #123972
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This is a reply to # 1,608,348Tell your doc you want a testosterone test. If he will not (a) get another doc who will do what he should (b) get a simple easy testosterone test yourself at ZRT Labs. If the test is outside norms, wait about 2 weeks take it to the doctor who now must ethically explore your issue with a follow up test. If both tests are outside norms you have an issue. Bioidentical hormone replacement is viable and effective. First clean out the liver and see if that resolves issue as the liver is prime control / regulator for hormones and if it is clogged this is likely the issue.
Anyone (doc or lay-person) who categorically opposes hormone testing and or replacement without taking the above steps is dogmatic and obviously can not be trusted for advice.- Re: Blood Hormone Tests Hveragerthi
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This is a reply to # 1,609,693
Tell your doc you want a testosterone test. If he will not (a) get another doc who will do what he should (b) get a simple easy testosterone test yourself at ZRT Labs. If the test is outside norms, wait about 2 weeks take it to the doctor who now must ethically explore your issue with a follow up test. If both tests are outside norms you have an issue. Bioidentical hormone replacement is viable and effective. First clean out the liver and see if that resolves issue as the liver is prime control / regulator for hormones and if it is clogged this is likely the issue.
Anyone (doc or lay-person) who categorically opposes hormone testing and or replacement without taking the above steps is dogmatic and obviously can not be trusted for advice.I am highly opposed to the use of "bio-identical" or any other form of hormone replacement except in rare cases. The term "bio-identical" is actually very miseleading. There is no way to prove that the hormones are actually identical. Just because a compound has the same exact atoms this does not make it identical. Glucose, fructose and galactose are all C6H12O6, but they are not the same sugars. Even a simple change in a bond angle can change the effects of a compound. For example synthetic vitamin E is considered identical to natural vitamin E, yet studies have shown that natural vitamin Es are more effective than synthetic vitamin Es. So they are obviously not identical despite the claims.
The other problem is that the "bioidentical" hormones come with side effects. "Bioidentical" progesterone for example can trigger a number of cancers, cause hyperagression, gallstones, increased inflammation, acne, etc. And it builds up in the tissues leading to a condition known as progesterone dominance. Long term use of "bio-identical" hormones can also lead to atrophy of the glands that would normally form those hormones. I strongly believe that supporting the endocrine system to allow the body to generate its own hormones is not only safer but much more effective.
I have discussed this in the past numerous times:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1442698
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1521544#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1539259#i
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http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1491036
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- Re: Blood Hormone Tests #123972
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This is a reply to # 1,609,827Why are you talking about women and progesterone.? ScarFace is not a woman so I hope he is not taking progesterone! The dude needs to clean out his liver and see if that helps his testosterone levels, the only way to check his T level is by testing. Then if T is still low he may try replacement T--see how it works. I strongly believe if a man is hitting mid-life and can't get it up, he is going to be much happier with results from my solution than yours. But hey--whatever floats your boat!
- Re: Blood Hormone Tests Hveragerthi
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Why are you talking about women and progesterone.? ScarFace is not a woman so I hope he is not taking progesterone! The dude needs to clean out his liver and see if that helps his testosterone levels, the only way to check his T level is by testing. Then if T is still low he may try replacement T--see how it works. I strongly believe if a man is hitting mid-life and can't get it up, he is going to be much happier with results from my solution than yours. But hey--whatever floats your boat!
If you go back and read what I wrote the answer is pretty clear. I clearly stated that I am against hormone replacement of any kind. And as my post also clearly says I was using progesterone as an example.
By the way men do produce progesterone also, and do use progesterone supplements as well. Progesterone and estrogen are not solely female hormones. In fact progesterone is the precursor for estrogen and estrogen is the precursor for testosterone. Testosterone can also convert back in to estrogen, which is why aromatase inhibitors, such as nettle root are used to help maintain testosterone.
And finally cleansing the liver will help with hormone imbalances if there is an EXCESS of a hormone. The liver breaks down excess hormones, which are then further metabolized by the flora. If the hormone levels, such as testosterone are already low then cleansing the liver is not going to do squat since the liver does not synthesize the sex hormones.
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