10-Day Fast! 
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HI, I am desperate to fast to rout my candida/other bacterial intestinal overgrowth. I have needed to do this for about 30 years -- since I was 10. I have had a horrible life because of this disease. I have adhered to an all-raw diet 2 years straight now and have fasted weekly for a couple of years as well -- which has just barely kept me functioning. Hell, I can't even claim to function. Depression, lethargy, the entire list of symptoms. Brain fog. Anxiety. I know a good fast of several days would do something powerful to clear me up. In the future, for my life, I need to be a person who fasts at least 10 days, 4 times a year. (Ugh. the thought of it. But I can get used to it.. I can get used to anything... but I need support, which is why I am writing).
In my healing process I need to go through an initial phase of significant long healing fasts. I have not so far in my life been able to rouse myself/support myself/conquer my depression/get the courage/support to do it. It is an incredibly "sober" act. Oh, God, to go without my drug of choice, food, which makes everything bearable. Life is so unbearable without it. It's almost unthinkable. I need to call on all my spirituality to do it -- that part of my spirituality the disease has not totally robbed me of. Actually, it just takes a little self-convincing, but I really am pretty able to endure the idea of fasting, of this sobriety. The trouble comes about 2 days -- 48 hours -- into a fast, when "life just seems too unbearable" to go on without getting a "fix" of food. I need help to plan for and anticipate this trouble time and any other trouble times. i need help to get positive about fasting and willing to do it.
Now have a tiny bit of real-life (i.e., non-Internet) support (just asking successfully, convincingly, for this takes huge courage and motivation and huge "sobriety"/surrender to really getting well, dropping the food addiction... SO HARD... but I did do it...) ... I have had a surge of motivation. And I just really learned about Candida, and all the common intestinal illnesses, diverticulitis etc., and this increased my conviction of my need to fast and my willingness to do it (it's a simple matter of my health! Of my body NEEDING to be cured of a very serious infection!)
On this surge of motivation I tried to take a 10-day fast but lost the attempt 48 hours into it -- last night. I had told a couple of "real-life" people about my great inner surge of strength and my hope to fast 10 days and really make a difference to my health. I am very sad that these people could not really make a difference in my attempt to do this. I may need someone who has actually been cured of Candida by fasting (I myself have experienced, once, a period of relief from it as the result of a 3-day fast... I felt relief for about 6 hours, that is, until I started to eat again. Those 6 hours of health and strength and peace are 6 hours I will never forget and I want them back and I should be able to get them back and live that way for life!) Please, if you would, support me in my attempt.
I am starting either today, Sunday, May 2, or tomorrow, Monday, May 3, after a last meal which I will keep moderate in size and "anti-Candida diet-" compliant. I will fast from May 2 or 3 (Sun/Mon) until Wednesday/thursday, May 12/13.
My addiction has been to overeat... though I have white-knuckle-controlled my weight for 14 years now... white-knuckle because I have never had the will to REALLY clean up my diet taking out ALL even SLIGHTLY triggering foods ( I recognize i will have to do this now following this fast but I am prepared), and mostly because I never had the power to stay on a fast long enough to kill off the yeast /bacteria -- so I have remained compulsed to eat/food addicted... even while suffering horribly from bloating/gas/belly like a beach ball, and being very thin...
important note: it is absolutely vitally important to me NOT to pathologize the thinness or be scared by it... especially I need NOT to be scared to fast as I must for my dignity, for my empowerment, for my health... thinness, it is important to me to assert, is NOT per se dangerous... people who are freaked out by it are freaked out by it because they are ruled by their candida/bacteria and their bacteria are in a way "scared" of their being cured, [since this would mean death to the bacteria]. These people, via their bacteria, it seems to me, are scared by the vision of a thin person because they [those freaked out by thinness] have poor boundaries and think that what one person looks like THEY have to look like i.e. THEY think that just because someone in their immediate environment is thin THEY have to stop THEIR overeating, so their bacteria/candida which rule THEM get threatened so they [the freaked-out-by-thinness ones] react in a hostile way to thinness in another person... in their fear, generated by their bacteria which "fear" being killed by fasting, they invent scary mythologies about thinness... convincing themselves that thinness precludes fasting and is in some sense even inherently "Dangerous"... CRAZY and SO CONTROLLING... see various natural hygienists for validation of fasting as a cure for thin persons as well as overweight...anyway I myself am so sensitive to all their (the "fearful fatties'") garbage since I myself, being overrun bacterially, have poor boundaries, too [the bacterial/candida overgrowth condition is in many senses a disease of "poor boundaries," and from what I have observed, the poor physical boundaries [leaky gut, for instance; also, inability to stop eating when eating is not ok with you] are reflected in poor psychic boundaries [being very controlling of others, feeling the feelings of others, being "codependent," being "alarmed for others" a lot, that sort of presumptuousness/disrespect/infantilization of other people... anyway, I am very harmed by it and not interested in it, so if you've got some, keep it TO YOURSELF, PLEASE. This, my need to fast, is first of all valid just because I say it is, and it's MY body; and second is a matter of my basic wellness and even survival]
anyway, the point is you are requested NOT to write back pathologizing my thinness or sending what I so tiresomely and very damagingly receive, stupid fear-based "warnings--" really, messages from YOUR wellness-fearing intestine-infesting bacteria-- about my thinness. In the FIRST PLACE FAsting is MY choice and deserves RESPECT-- so do NOT write about my thinness, please. I am in a desperate state of health and NEED TO FAST TO GET WELL...
....NOT down quantities of antimicrobial medicines OR herbs, which ALWAYS stop working,
... NOT "juice fast," -- a recipe for disaster,
...NOT ingest calories!!! which ONLY FEED THE DISEASE,
.... BUT.... SIMPLY .... FAST.
I don't like having to do it, but this will change. i know I can learn to love fasting and wellness and sobriety.
What I would REALLY LIKE is a lot of positivity about fasting and the food-sober way of life -- messages that I CAN go without the "fix" of food, really go without it until I stop needing it as a fix. My health demands that I get out of the state of needing food as a fix. It has become that serious for me...
Again, please write with support of me to kill this candida/bacteria with a ten-day fast!!
By the way, can anyone give me very explicit tips on doing the Salt Water Flush? This is the one "aggressive" thing I feel would actually help in my process, but I have never attempted it. I do know to wait until I have fasted about 24 hours... has anyone been scared to do it and then learned in spite of the fear?
Sincerely,
L.
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I also want to know about the salt water flush. be sure to drink tons and tons of water while you fast. I attempted one a few days ago could only go two days, thought it might help my horrid acid reflux but the sec I put food in my mouth the third day it was just as bad as ever. As it is I limit myself to one meal a day not because I want to but because i have to, the pain is just too much to eat. when the candida is down I think I will be ok but that is a long way from now. Good luck and keep an eye on your self, if you get too weak ect.
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I don't see any real way to cure candida fasting. If that is the solution everybody here will fast. You probably be doing more damage to your health fasting than eating properly. If candida is your case, there is food which don't feed candida at all but will feed you in some way. Honestly, it looks like crazy to me. Think in a better way to deal with candida than that. What you write is lack of sense. - Re: 10-Day Fast!reply to kakiebaby Stablegate54
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This is a reply to # 1,616,304Kakiebaby,I read so many of your post.you can call me to discuss how you are doing nowadays.
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- Re: 10-Day Fast! dvjorge
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This is a reply to # 1,616,106Been there, done that, felt better but it's not a cure.
It DOES help, but nowhere near as much as you'd expect. Also, you don't really need anything laxative or any kind of flush - fasting gives you diarrhea around day 3.
As to passing the 48 hour mark - damn, poor you :( It's right around the end of day 2 that makes or breaks it. By days 3 or 4, you're not even going to feel hungry anymore. AT ALL.
Yep, that's right: HUNGER ONLY LASTS FOR 48 HOURS!- Re: 10-Day Fast! gullix1
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This is a reply to # 1,616,345It's true that the hunger stops after two days so hang on in there, you'll be amazed! If you feel something that resembles hunger just drink some water and you'll see it's gone.
I water fasted for 14 days and a 48 hours dry fast. I still had the yeast infection. Fasting is great and the way you feel after 10 days is wonderful, I would say high on water!
Have anyone added Iodized salt on the water fast? I didn't add any salt the times I fasted, I wish I had known about it back then, maybe I would have made more progress. I read some people are adding some salt, but I guess you just have to go with your intuition.
Last week I've been taking 2 tbs of apple cider vinegar in water every 8 hours and now I'm into Iodine as well, been having die off lately, my tongue is looking better so have a feeling I'm on the right track, time will show.
I also think I found a way to reach ketosis a lot faster than the first times I fasted (usually takes 3 days), starting the fast by jogging and staying away from water the first hours. I didn't last more than 48 hours that time, but it felt like a good way to start.
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The first time I water fasted I was drinking about 5 liters a day, I had not been doing any salt loading and just been eating fruit for months, I was thirsty all the time.
I think salt is important to stay hydrated, if not you might end up drinking too much water, witch might give you pain in the kidneys.
I had bad kidney pain on the first fast, it didn't get much better and it wasn't until I completed another Water Fast of 14 days this pain went away. I think this might have been caused by too much water.
When it comes to drinking water on a water fasts, listen to your body and your own intuition, not just drink for the sake of drinking. - Re: 10-Day Fast! sans sucre
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This is a reply to # 1,616,106Hi. Wow. Please read this with the spirit with which it is intended, which is to help. And I am not coming from a place of my bacteria talking for me, as I am pretty much recovered from candida for the most part. I am not coming from a place of fear, btu from a place of what can realistically work. It sounds to me like your expectations of yourself are crippling you. Not that there is anything wrong with a little fast every once in a while, but I hear you beating yourself up and causing yourself soooo much stress because you are unable to live up to the extremely high expectations you have for yourself. And that stess you are placing on yourself is something that can definitely make candida worse. People tend to dismiss stress as not such a big threat, but it really is. Plus, believe me, 6 hours of relief does not mean a cure is possible from doing it longer. Has anyone mentioned to you that candida itself can cause you to be compulsive about eating? That it can trick your brain into thinking you need to eat, that you are always hungry, especially for carby foods, and you really have no control over it - it can make you feel ompletely powerless over food. So, when you think, all you need is just a "little" more willpower - well, it is not willpower that is the issue. I was there. Maybe also since food allergies and intolerances are such a huge part of this illness, that trying to figure out what foods you are reacting to and eliminating them instead of all food would be more beneficial to your recovery. Often we feel compelled to eat things we are intolerant to orr allergic to. food intolerances are one of the major things that affected my recovery, along with liver issues. And, you do need to have some good nutritional support to heal from anything, candida included. BTW, I have no issue with your thinness - have no clue how thin you are and it really is not relevant to my points here anyway.
But, ok, if you are insistant on fasting anyway, I wish you well and hope it is everything you want it to be. I hope it works for you. If not, come back and maybe try a few things (liver support, bitters, for example, check the Truth in Medicine forum for some good info).
I am sorry you are not getting the type of support you are requesting, but you have to consider, maybe there is a good reason for that. - Re: 10-Day Fast! whatttap
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hey i started a fast as well!!
I'm on day 3- and i know day 3/4 is when your body goes into ketosis but today im feeling REALLY weak. like my arms and legs feel all jello-y. I dont know, so I was wondering if i snack on like a rice cracker or something so I dont faint, will that stop me from going into ketosis? I just dont want to start from day 1 again...
Good luck on your fast!!- Re: 10-Day Fast! Adieu
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This is a reply to # 1,617,189Uh... if your BMI is at least 10-15, you WANT to go into ketosis. Why? Cause it's the only way to pull through a long fast.
And if your BMI is below 10, you shouldn't be fasting. Ever.- Re: 10-Day Fast! whatttap
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This is a reply to # 1,617,208i know, i dont want to stop ketosis. but i feel weak as hell. I need to munch on something or ill faint in class. If i eat like nuts or some small crap will that stop ketosis?
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This is a reply to # 1,617,21010-50 grams of carbs will stop ketosis, depending on a number of factors. Btw, if eat very little, but still enough to stop ketosis, you'll get the worst of both worlds - no ketones from fat for fuel for the next dozen or two hours, yet not enough food intake to offset that. Thus, zero energy will literally turn into negative energy...
A steak, unbreaded chicken, or fish will not break ketosis. However, it won't really be a fast anymore... If you're doing it for weight loss, that could work, but it will nullify the cleansing effects.
Also, any noticeable amount of calories will reset your inner fasting timer. You'll have to suffer through the first 48 hours of horrid hunger again, as if you just started, and it will continue to reset after every single meal you have.
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This is a reply to # 1,617,189hey, whattap!
I like your name and would love to be fasting buddies with you. How's school? how is your fast?
I think what you are going through is totally normal -- the feelings of weakness. In my opinion, & from my experience, I think this is an effect that the body creates when it is trying to tell you to slow down because it has "work to do." This is how I think of it. i think of it as , the large intestine is really burdened all the time if we overeat... so... if it gets a chance it will try to stop you in your tracks so it can do its work of elimination (getting the s*** out, that is -- sorry). Whenever I feel "weak" I feel "OK, that is my intestine getting me to stay still."
I do get this weakness, too, like you, in fasting. I used to get really scared by it. I used to get really impatient with it and broke fasts because of it but hope i do not do that this time (support pleeze???). It's the bacteria in me somehow, neurologically, I feel, creating this ... anxiety .. about what exactly, it is not clear... the end result is that on so many fasts I ate, I mean lost the fast entirely, which was what the bacteria/yeast wanted. Ugh!
It (the weakness) has gotten less as I have become less food-addicted. I guess "food-addicted" means "yeast-infected." Anyway I am ready now to really bring down these bacteria /yeast with a fst of at least 10 days. I have started the fast as of now, as of last night...
Fasting my short occasional/weekly fasts has helped bring down my food addiction. In a small way. But as I say I am really ready to stop suffering now -- really ready to start doing long fasts. ... I HOPE!!! ... With support!!!! (oh God PLEASE!!)
I have had to exert great discipline when not fasting and really make some life choices to abstain from certain categories of food. This was hard and is hard. Oh well. I think it is the right thing for me to do.
Just wanted to write a quick note. Please e-mail me l c a t h f @ g m a i l . c o m !!! If you want. Hope to hear from you!!Advertisement
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