do you think i should try to meet him and find out?

no, that still leaves room for speculation. do not conclude, entertain all possibilities untill it has become empirical...what else can one do?

but in the mean time a lil deductive reasoning never hurt anyone..

if president's can be killed and buildings jacked by cave dwellers in the name of agendas, then why the fudge do "conspiracy theorists" run amok "blowing whistle's"???

they either:

-dont have it right
-are exposing what's supposed to exposed while maybe also making the real gems even more perverted and confusing and diluted. educational pollution, shamanic pollution.
-and im open to other suggestions...way open..as usual..

**seriously, you could pick your battles more carefully.**

Battle??? This is a service, a service for potential diamonds-to-be of current society conscious enough to make it this far yet still deceived and TRAPPED in the 5 sense reality of this realm of inversion, barely tunning into the grand psychedelic perfection that is to energy dense to really get past our primitive corrubted sensory organs. There is nothing to battle at between truth seekers. Although sometimes the battle IS the service...so perhaps that's very relevant to you at this point..since ultimately it was your psyche that chose the word..

**jones is doing what any communicator does - play to his audience.**

ok then doesnt that mean he is just re-hashing what they already favor? where is the growth...where is the novelty..the evolution?

**by focusing on DMT you miss his point,**

DMT and ayhuasca are just examples. my point, is hardly mine in the first place...it is ancient. That all the empiricism, logic, deductive reasoning, PATTERNS, and even emotion itself .. suggest.. that in mans natural state, that within the intilligent design, Man is meant to.. if he chooses.. have symbiotic relationships with a variety of different plants. But symbiosis means balance... dependancy is the perversion of this, and very prevelant in this inversion society. Parasite fractals run amok.

**which is correct and quite poignant given what he has to work with**

ok, what is your empirical evidence for this? And if it is not empirical, is it really evidence..?

when one makes broad, sweeping, encompassing, rushed strokes of the broom.. they are more likely to trash any wedding rings when they fall off..

**we have discussed DMT here before**

And that is enough to come to such a strong opinion on such a subject..? discussions here tend to be pretty brief IME...plenty of room for many aspects of such a subject to go uncovered. I highly respect your opinion, and i find the current search function unpractical for the time pressed, although largely a user error id bet. Perhaps u can give me bit of it, wouldn't fall upon the def ears of a closed mind, and who knows, u might just save me. Newport will not bother.

**instead of ragging on jones, maybe you could tell us what DMT has done for you personally.**

I don't rage on messengers, only messages. To hear second hand about DMT and ayhuasca trips has given me extreme hope, happiness, motivation, insight into the possible consciousness-based artistic nature of this universe, and a very very very open mind. But for actual experience logs you'll have to consult the swimers, now and in the future. Maybe start with some of the FORUMS i mentioned in my first post. Just keep in mind the quality of anything can be corrubted, and often is in this world. Take cocaine for example, the perverted, neurotoxic, highly concentrated and isolated version of what was naturally supposed to be a highly productive adoptagenic leaf chewed by native peoples..