Don't know what area you live in, small/rural or large city, but I'd try and get a 2nd opinion if I were you. Most insurance will pay for that.
I've had lung cancer surgeries - one on each side, and as a routine part of the surgeries they removed a couple of lymph nodes - each side. I myself would much prefer surgery to chemo but think that you should investigate all options. It's been nine months since the cancer was removed from my left lung, four years since I lost a lobe on my right side to cancer. All tests say I'm cancer free and my blood oxygen level is between 95 and 97% - in the normal range for those who've never had cancer. Surgery can sometimes be a very wise option. Yup, chemo was one of the options given to me for treatment nine months ago but I chose surgery and am glad I did.
I had laboratory evaluated and defined prostate cancer more than 20 years ago. I bought the book with the title something like "50 Things to Do when the Doctor Says It's Cancer" written by a two time lung cancer survivor. He recommended getting the opinion from an oncologist who doesn't do surgery and that's what I did at that time - after my prostate doctor had me scheduled for surgery for complete prostate removal. My non-surgery oncologist recommended that I not have my prostate removed. On my next visit to my prostate doctor I cancelled my surgery and he literally screamed into my ear that I was making a mistake. I didn't listen to him and today more than twenty years later I still have my functional prostate without a sign of it ever growing and in fact I believe the I have healed it through meditation. My last PSA test was .7.
"Knowing the importance of the lymphatic system I can't see how taking some out would generate a truly healthy outcome though."
I haven't suffered a bit by having at least four lymph nodes removed. Surgery is much more focused than chemo. They do now have a directed radiation and that was one of my options too but it had a greater chance of cancer recurrence than surgery.
Chemo is far from the only option in my opinion. Lymph nodes which are enlarged often are that way due to doing their job of trapping toxins/infection. Rather than get rid of body parts wich are there for a reason, I might opt to try to get rid of the cancer while saving the body parts. Many items to consider would be a good blood tonic such as Jon Barron's Blood Support tonic, good overall cleansers/cancer-fighters such as Essiac Tea, cancer fighters/immune boosters such as oleander extract, curcumin, blackseed oil (Nigella sativa), colloidal silver and much more. You will find much good information here in this forum, including my own suggested comprehensive anti-cancer protocol (though don't take anything as gospel without doing additional research on your own).
Should you opt for chemo, consider oleander extract very strongly. Besides being a supreme cancer-fighter and immune booster it also helps potentiate chemo (meaning you need less chemo) as well as offsets the side effects of chemo. To find out more, see "The Oleander Series" of articles s well as other articles and cancer-fighting protocols at http://www.tbyil.com/articles.htm
"Lymph nodes which are enlarged often are that way due to doing their job of trapping toxins/infection."
I agree with you and have experienced that myself during infections. However, the lymph nodes he is referring to here are directly astride where he had verified cancer. They told him that the nodes are "probably" cancerous and they don't like to do a biopsy on lymph nodes because that spreads the cancer like crazy.
I had a niece who four years ago got breast cancer and decided to ignore allopathic medicine and instead went with Laetrile - a very popular alternative medicine. If I'm not mistaken she had other alternative treatments as well. By the time she finally decided to seek allopathic help the cancer had spread to her lymph nodes. They buried this 52 year old woman just a year ago. Had she originally gone allopathic it would have been a simple tumor removal - mastectomy at worst.
Each person has a choice and often times it's not an easy one to make.
You have no way whatsoever of knowing that a simple tumor removal or mastectomy would have saved your neice. Removal of breast tumors or entire breasts often fails to get all of the cancer or prevent its return. A lot of women who had tumors and breasts removed and allopathic treatment for breast cancer are buried every year,
Likewise, a recent study demonstrated that lymph node removal had no effects on survival rates in the instance of breast cancer - and I rather doubt that it would for other cancers as well:
New study: Lymph node surgery for many breast cancer patients proves worthless and harmful
Organs and other body parts which become cancerous do not have to be removed. In many instances they can be saved by eliminating the cancer.
Finally, you might note that in the alternatives I suggested I did NOT suggest that someone merely rely on laetrile. Laetrile is a good adjunct to use with other alternatives but I would never rely on it as a standalone treatment.
"You have no way whatsoever of knowing that a simple tumor removal or mastectomy would have saved your neice. Removal of breast tumors or entire breasts often fails to get all of the cancer or prevent its return. A lot of women who had tumors and breasts removed and allopathic treatment for breast cancer are buried every year."
I DO know that a simple tumor removal would have saved my niece. It was in the very early stages. Can't find the link now but once saw the post of an RN who said of the 15 women she knew personally who sought alternative treatment for breast cancer - all died.
"New study: Lymph node surgery for many breast cancer patients proves worthless and harmful"
You fail to recognize that "many" is not all nor is there even a percentage that is given in your "study."
I've had I believe that it was five lymph nodes removed during lung cancer surgery and I have no ill effects whatsoever. In fact, I am a four year cancerous lung lobe removed on my right side survivor and a nine month cancer wedge removed on my left side (not by alternative medicine) and my oxygen level is at 95% to 97% which is normal and at my age of 80 is in fact spectacular. Both of those cancers were lab verified and nobody was guessing.
For a verified cancer cure with herbal supplements you can check out the many posts by Canadian Yoda - http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=334733#i which is one post that she mentions her cure.
I too have cured cancer with alternative treatment - much to the chagrin of my doctor. I am a 20 plus year prostate cancer survivor and I cured lab verified cancer without allopathic treatment by ingesting raw garlic and doing spiritual healings during meditation. My PSA is currently .7 - remarkable for a guy of any age.
Tony I'm not against alterative cancer treatment. As you can see I've had verified cancer at least three times and each time I did extensive research on what my options were, and weighed the results and have gone in the direction of my choice and I'll be around a few more years because of it.
The 5 year survival rate for the type of lung cancer that I've had is 40 - 50% and I've got a year to go for one of them, and to have cancer in both lungs and survive is simply miraculous. My cure of my prostate cancer still boggles the minds of doctors.
When you've been through cancer and survived as I have, then you can make all the claims that you wish.
I do support the diligence of your research on cancer but I wish that you would keep an open mind and give credence to all modularities that work. Hulda Clark, the woman who died with cancer as a contributing fact is an excellent example of that.
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In the instance of the original poster, yes they do have a choice to make and removal of a couple of lymph nodes is perhaps a good option to consider. If it were me, I would seriously consider that option - but not consider removal of any other lymph nodes and perhaps ultimately not remove any at all.
Assuming that the lymph nodes are cancerous does not mean that they absolutely are cancerous. It is also possible to cure canceroous lymph nodes. If the lymph nodes are cancerous, then that almost certainly means the cancer was not eliminated to begin with, which is what we should be focusing on here.
Odds are that tumor removal/mastectomy instead of the alternatives she chose might have made your neice a five year survivor, but I do not see how you can say that it absolutely would have since the five year survival rate is not 100%. The five year survival rates for breast cancer diagnosed in early stages is pretty high these days - though in great part that is due to DCIS now being included in the statistics when it was previously not considered to be only a possible pre-cancerous condition.
Personally, I don't consider survival for 5 years to be complete success anyway. I consider complete success and actually saving someone to be elimination of the cancer and then having a person go on to live a more or less normal lifespan cancer-free.
How can you make a statement that I fail to recognize that "many" is not all? Isn't that rather rediculous since my decision to put the word "many" in the title of the article would by definition rule out "all"?
You are right in indicating that my opinions are rather one-sided when it comes to mainstream chemo, radiation and surgery - but I will point out, once again, that this is the Cancer ALTERNATIVES support forum whose purpose is to offer alternatives to mainstream treatments. The original poster was looking for advice about chemo (regardless of the status of the lymph nodes) and how they might also address the lymph nodes without surgery and that is what I gave.
Insofar as the RN who claims that all 15 people she knows who used alternatives were dead, that may well be. Then again, the head of oncology at Memorial Sloan Kettering (may he rot in Hell!) once stated that no one had ever been cured of cancer by alternatives - a blatant and boldfaced lie which has likely led untold numbers of people to reject alternative treatments which might have saved them.
Lumping all people who tried alternatives into one category is kind of like the studies which lump all meat eaters into one group - including those who eat feedlot type meat and processed meat as well as those who eat healthy grass fed organic meat. People who reject mainstream and more or less casually try some alternatives that they heard about - such as laetrile, which I do not consider an effective standalone treatment at all - are quite different from those who diligently do research to find the best alternatives and adopt a complete anticancer protocol and lifestyle. In many instances those in the first group will not have that great of success whereas those in the latter group might have very good success. It is the comprehensive approach which I recommend and in my experience it has been highly, highly successful.
Dr. Hulda Clark died of spinal cord injury complications and no biopsy was ever performed, though it is certainly popular for mainstream supporters and apologists to use her death to condemn alternative cancer therapy entirely. Should we take all the oncologists and oncology RN's who die of cancer as condemnations of mainstream cancer treatment? Personally, I have never been a fan of Dr. Clark and think that some of her ideas about cancer, such as her mysterious flukes, were batty - though she has some very good cleanses and other good information.
I congratulate you on your success thus far, btw, and it is my hope that you have continued success and good health for not just a few more years but many, many years. I also applaud you doing plenty of research on your options - something that far too people who opt for either alternative or mainstream treatment do.
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