Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance 
MCW
11 y
2,898
Hi All,
I hope everyone is doing well
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the awful estrogen dominance / hormone imbalance and anxiety? My anxiety got much better the last two months and now with a decided move from California to the UK and adding in lots more to my routine for this I am finding my anxiety is coming back a little more again. I am noticing it is more prominent right before my period and the first 1-2 days into my period and also in the late afternoon around 5-8PM. Ever since I went off Birth Control June of last year was when my anxiety and panic attacks started. I never really had much issues with anxiety before except for when I was super overwhelmed in college and during my first job out of college. I am starting to think this anxiety that has been remaining that I can't seem to kick and also the anxiety that has recently started up again this past week has something to do with a hormone imbalance since I never had a problem with it before. It doesn't seem that the NB approach really takes on too much of correcting any hormonal issues, although I know it will help things once you correct your thyroid and adrenal ratios which I am working on. Overall I am feeling so much better than this time last year when I had to go on disability but this anxiety certain times of the month that seems to fluctuate with my cycle is SO frustrating. and also Heart Palps again which I wasn't having really at all the last two months - I think these were linked to this months PMS and also incorporating a little gluten and Sugar back into my diet i.e. liver getting overwhlemed bc I had a headache this month as part of my PMS too.
I am also curious if anyone gets adrenaline rushes, it always seems like these certain times I mentioned above always accompany a sort of adrenaline rush feeling I get in my stomach I can actually feel it moving up from my stomach and it's super weird. It also seems that anything I get excited about, which I tend to be often I get the adrenaline rush and the anxiety kicks in.
Anyone else have any experience with this?
Thanks so much!
- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance ricky37
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,098,791Hi MCW,
I have estrogen dominance as well. To deal with it, I use progesterone cream twice a day - once in the morning, and once before bed. I can't imagaine what a wreck I'd be without it. The progesterone balances out the excess estrogen, and generally makes you feel relaxed.
If you choose the progesterone route, make sure you get a brand with no parabens, as these actually make the estrogen dominance worse.
Good luck.
Ricky- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance MCW
11 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,098,830Hi Ricky,
thank you for all of your valuable information too. The cream is what my dr recommended but haven't yet done anything to address. I think I am going to test first like North mentioned versus just assume based on my symptoms.
Aside from the parabens for the cream, are there any side effects of using the cream. I have heard mixed messages about the cream and was hesitate to try it out?
Thanks again, and you are right about the MAG, Onwards mentioned this too, I definitely need to up it again, I was on about 600mg a day + and am now taking remakably less the past two months, with the increased stress I need to get more mag in me again. Cheers :)
- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance MCW
11 y
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- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance ricky37
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,098,791One more thing I wanted to add - I get the adrenaline rush when I cut down on Magnesium. As long as I have enough MG in me, then all is well.
If I don't have enough Mg, then even when I try to asleep, I get the adrenaline rush, and then I'm super awake.
Ricky - Please don't assume Estrogen Dominan... North
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,098,791Please don't assume Estrogen Dominance! That malady was written up in a couple of natural health books in the last few decades, and the idea gets so automatically assumed to be the case in many discussions online, that many women just look a handful of symptom lists and assume they have estrogen dominance.
Don't! A saliva test is simple, not expensive, and can tell you if you have it or not, and the symptom lists just are not accurate - those lists can describe many other maladies instead.
I thought I had estro dominance 15 years or so ago, started taking things that those books describe as helpful for that, including using progesterone cream, and got markedly worse. Got a saliva test, and it turned out I was too low in estro (at a young enough age then that it was not expected), and marginally too high in progesterone, and the supplemental progesterone was giving me even more problems.
I just had to say something, having gone through that, in case you are in that boat. Side effects of progesterone are nasty, mood issues galore, if you have too much of it.
- Re: Please don't assume Estrogen Dom... MCW
11 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,098,837Wow, really interesting. I am going to definitely be more cautious of doing anything to address this until I know 100% that this is the culprit. I was told estrogen dominant by my old practitioner because of all of the birth control I took and my mom was told she is too and so I just assumed. Thanks for bringing this up, I will look into the saliva test. My pracitioner mentioned completing a gene test which will show the hormones, have you heard of this and do you think this is a valuable test for these levels or is the saliva testing the most accurate?
Cheers!
- Example of saliva test lab North
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,098,997Gene test sounds expensive? The saliva test we used was through ZRT lab, and the nurse practitioner who signed off on my getting it said she uses that lab and one other lab fairly often. The test was less than $100.
- Example of saliva test lab North
11 y
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- Re: Please don't assume Estrogen Dom... MCW
11 y
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- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance Onwards
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,098,791MCW- I agree with Ricky about upping the mag a little during stressful times. I have recently gone through a very stressful month and have had to increase my mag at night. I can feel it working in minutes to calm down the stress response.
I too have had the adrenaline rush from the gut. I have experienced this the most when I have to public speak. Now I know that I will just take more mag before and it works well.
Mag is a funny mineral. If I take too much daily then I get headaches and migraines. I can however handle lots if I am stressed.
Lastly the gluten and Sugar are things that I must entirely avoid.
Dr Watts told me that I am progesterone dominant as well. I can't remember now what on my test revealed this but I must ask him the next time I speak with him.
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- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance MCW
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,098,933Thanks Onwards! I ended up decreasing my magnesium when switching to TEI by about 200MG a day, it was fine the last two months but I think like you have mentioned with the increased stress and working on these NA/K ratio/levels I think my body is starting to kick in needing more MAG again hence the anxiety and adrenaline gut feeling. As you mentioned these were quite workable the past two months. I actually added in an additional 120mg dose yesterday and already felt such a difference, so I am going to do this for a little while as my body seems to need it. I appreciate your input and definitely agree!
I also think the heart palps are from the gluten and/or cheese... when I have had the heart palps recently it has been directly after I ate these foods. I thought it may have been the Sugar as I have been adding in cookies here and there but my body seems fine with that for the most part but more so when I eat gluten or cheese. I think because I cut it out for over a year now bc my body was reacting to it and now adding it back in in portions my body is not wanting it. I said last night after I ate some of it again, that I MUST cut it out, it's not worth it. I don't even know why I do it, I think it's the temptation when my partner is eating a chicken quesidlla and I have a plate full of vegis and chicken, sometimes I just want a bite of that gluten and cheese lol No more though.
If you don't mind asking Dr Watts that would be fantastic, I would love to learn more about how to find this on the hair analysis, I didn't realize this was possible. I will try to do some research too then and see what I can find.
Many thanks :)
- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance Onwards
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,098,996MCW- What type of mag are you taking?
When I switched over to TEI I was put on 3 minplex per day. The mag deficiency symptoms came right back. That was why I added the mag citrate. I also just started the Pure Encapsultaions Mag Glycinate which works amazing for the added stress.- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance MCW
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,099,312Hi Onwards,
For the magnesium I was taking 1 miniplex a day, 1 spartan MK a day, and 1 magnesium glycinate by Pure Encapsulations which I was also taking while I was on the ARL protocol and agree, it works really well. As of two days ago I upped my dosage of the mag glycinate to 2 a day, so I am now getting about 400MG a day, I have actually seem a change since doing this, so I am definitely going to stick with this for a while. I am glad someone else can relate and am glad both you and I caught it before our MAG levels were depleted too much. :) Thanks for your help onwards!
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- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance MCW
11 y
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- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance Onwards
11 y
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- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance onedaysoon
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,098,933Sorry you are having a stressful month Onwards. Hope it clears up soon!
I would also be interested in knowing what on the hair analysis reveals specific hormone levels.
MCW, I had saliva test done a few years back and thought for sure I was estrogen dominant. I was, but the problem was that all of my hormone levels were very low. So even though I had more estrogen in relation to the other hormones, I was still quite low in it. I played around with progesterone cream and I will never do it again. Messing with hormones is a road I would not go down. I know it has helped some people, but I just think it's better to get your body to a point where it can correct levels itself.Just my two cents...- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance MCW
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,099,002Hi Onesdaysoon,
thank you for your words of wisdom! I appreciate you sharing your story. Sometimes I wish I never went off the birth control that gave me this anxiety to begin with, but I know it'll be corrected with time, it's just annoying to deal with and is the one main symptom that has been getting better but still not there compared to everything else.
Hope all is going well for you! :)
- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance MCW
11 y
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- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance MCW
11 y
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- Re: Anxiety / Estrogen Dominance ricky37
11 y
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