quote motherof4: "dear friends ,We all know that an "atheist"is a person waiting for god,bless them,tom"


Mother of 4 said this in the Atheism SUPPORT forum , and then apologised as it was not supportive.

So i brought it here!
She should take it to Christian debate now.

It is very insulting to be talked down to like that, as if they know something for sure.

I am an athiest becase we do not know for sure, she is a christian becasue she wants to be one, not becasue she knows anything for sure.

Christianity, religions, are about FAITH. thats what is beautifull about it - faith alone can be wonderful, even if it is prone to errors in fact. Faith is what they have going for them , and then she throws it all out by saying she knows something for sure, as in seeing god, god really physically exists, etc.

Now, onto the issues at hand - am I waiting for god to bless me? That is interesting, because we all have a degree of hope in us that something wonderfull could happen to us today. A large man with a deep voice and long hair might appear in the sky and put my horrid stresses to ease, to make things clear to me again.
That "option" does not indicate any belief, as I am sure you will say it does. I do not hold out any hope of it happening, no miracles likely today. There is no force, man, god or whatever that "makes things happen", no conscious forces , only the forces of nature that have been working all along to make earth and life on earth what it is now. Period.\

Thats my belief, and you refuse to allow that belief to stand as it is, you allways keep saying I am just lost and waiting for conversions to your beliefs.
And I allways come to you and say you are not thinking appropriatly. Is this discourse and discussion and good debate, or is it just nonsense on both our parts?
* how can we find a way to live both of us in this world, with our views intact but still showing full respect for the others of differing views? [ I get more hassle to become christian than I gove out about you becomiung athiest - hint!!]
Mother of 4, do you think I have a right to believe what I want without seeing the opposing view everywhere? I am seeing christian "god bless you" 's so many times a day, it is like propaganda. At what poiint are you christians going too far? Balance of courseyour right to believe and celebrate that belief, but contained so it is not in my face? What if me and my athiest types put up that much effort promoting our views as christians do promoting theirs? This is really a quandry for me, as I respect your rights, but reject evangalism as appropriate.

That spanks of insecurity to be a bully like that, allways pusing your views on others to become more like you.
Lets overcome these type of human weaknesses and try to get a grip on reality so we can overcome the oppressive forces.

Karlin