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Gay Bashing for Jesus
A large number of people who dislike homosexuality and homosexuals find a variety of ways to use Jesus as support for their bigotry. This is interesting, considering the fact that Jesus is regularly portrayed as sitting down and having friendly relations with those who would be considered the dregs of society. How times have changed.
Laura Parcells writes for The Cavalier Daily:
Does the Bible say homosexuality is wrong? Yes, there are arguably a few allusions to this in the massive text. However, the Bible also says that women are inferior creatures and that slaves should not make haste to free themselves. What we all need to understand that the Bible is, like everything else, a historical document. Even the letters of the New Testament were written to specific regions regarding specific problems that were to be resolved in specific ways. The Bible has been used as a means of social control since its inception, and has always been subject to the self-preserving interpretations of the ruling class.
Why do we insist on depriving people of true equality on the basis of something they cannot control, and which should not be of concern to us at all? Why must we ruin people's lives by telling them that what they are is not OK? To maintain the status quo? To not have to reckon with what it means to truly let everyone (and not just heterosexual, rich, white men) be equal? ... What people do not understand is that the white, heterosexual, Christian capitalist norms we are taught every day are not "neutral," as people like to believe, but are themselves political! These status quo perceptions need to be challenged, all the more because they are perceived as being "non-political" and "natural." Instead however, Christianity -- which in truth preaches nothing more radical than love -- is being used to maintain and further reify these social constructions which leave so many behind.
Parcells makes some very interesting comments about how Christianity gets used to maintain social control over people. Certain modes of behavior are labeled "normal" and, thus, removed from normal political debate. Part of that process is to portray those norms as being part of a natural Christian system, set forth in the Bible and followed faithfully by generations of God-fearing Christians. In this manner, real dissent and challenge are largely eliminated from the community through a combination of religious, political, and peer pressure
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This is a reply to # 271,192I have never heard of any other animal in the animal kingdom who have sex with the same gender. Male birds don't have sex with other male birds, female tigers don't have sex with other female tigers. That's b/c it is not normal, wholesome, good behavior. It's not natural that's why. The procreation of the species depends on the natural sexual intercourse between the opposite sexes.
Humans with all our intelligence do things b/c we can, even if it's wrong. We have free will, but we also can get corrupted by it, if we don't have moral standards and protocol.
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- Re: Gay Bashing Christians Uncas
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MoreThis is a reply to # 271,208Purely biased speculation ! And false ! As a Science bio major my study was the hymadrious baboon and they quite readily partook in sexual activities amongst other male baboons! The behavior is not as uncommon as you are made to believe! Once again biased uniformed opinions cause much suffering to others because of pure ignorance!
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This is a reply to # 271,208I take my dog to the dog park, I see same sex dogs hump each other all the time. What a totally retarded MESSAGE. Or maybe all same sex humping dogs will go to hell?- Re: Have you never been to the dog p... Uncas
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This is a reply to # 271,217Isnt it also odd that christians, the ones who say they're the real christians, dont believe in evolution or the connections between man and animals, yet will revert to its concepts when it suits thier cause! Hilarious! Still plenty of humor and hypocrasy to go around! - Re: Have you never been to the dog p... anonymousjane_01
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This is a reply to # 271,217Dogs...what about fish, snakes, birds, cats...I have definitely never seen a male cat hump another male cat! Don't use an example of one perverted dog to speak for the whole animal species, that's foolish, and it probably was a female dog he was humping anyway, did you check?
Bottom line, gays have no recourse to the perversity and sin of their actions.
Sure we all have gay friends, and I am not a gay basher, but I'm not going to be a coward and act as though it is okay, when it it clearly soo not.
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This is a reply to # 271,246more poop only sicker ! how much do you hate gays! I thought all people where gods children! Well what would christians do to make themselve feel better then others!
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This is a reply to # 271,246Oh wow, what a stupid and totally ignorant post... it makes me wonder if the writer is just pretending to be a christian, and post stupidities to make the christian look even more ridiculous... well if that's the case, you can stop, we know they are ridiculous...
If not, well it's really really sad. You seem to enjoy your ignorance, and you are fooling yourself into beleiving that it makes you a better follower of a superior being...
Homosexuality is found in countless species in the nature, it's not a form of perversion, it,s simply a different way to enjoy sexuality. It's perfectly ok that a woman or a man feels love or sexual attraction to another person of the same gender. It happens in HUNDREDS and probably thousands of species.
Anonymousjane? more like Anonymous HITLER!!! Because that's really what you sound like, and he was a christian like you!
- Ignoring evidence again! nick5
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This is a reply to # 271,246http://www.animalsvoice.com/PAGES/writes/editorial/news/features/ga...
You won't be able to ignore the facts forever!! Everyone!! If she ignores this again just copy and paste it and post it again untill she notices it!
Dogs...what about fish, snakes, birds, cats...
"Silo and Roy are, to anthropomorphize a bit, gay penguins. When offered female companionship, they have adamantly refused it."
Those are your birds right there...
"Roy and Silo are hardly unusual. Milou and Squawk, two young males, are also beginning to exhibit courtship behavior, hanging out with each other, billing and bowing. Before them, the Central Park Zoo had Georgey and Mickey, two female Gentoo penguins who tried to incubate eggs together. And Wendell and Cass, a devoted male African penguin pair, live at the New York Aquarium in Coney Island. Indeed, scientists have found homosexual behavior throughout the animal world."
MORE ABOUT BIRDS:
"Among birds, for instance, studies show that 10 to 15 percent of female western gulls in some populations in the wild are homosexual. Females perform courtship rituals, like tossing their heads at each other or offering small gifts of food to each other, and they establish nests together. Occasionally they mate with males and produce fertile eggs but then return to their original same-sex partners. Their bonds, too, may persist for years."
How about monkeys?
"Bonobos, apes closely related to humans, are wildly energetic sexually. Studies show that whether observed in the wild or in captivity, nearly all are bisexual, and nearly half their sexual interactions are with the same sex. Female bonobos have been observed to engage in homosexual activity almost hourly."
"Mr. Bagemihl said homosexual behavior had been documented in some 450 species."
"He asserts that while same-sex behavior is sometimes found in captivity, it is actually seen more frequently in studies of animals in the wild.
"Male and female rhesus macaques, a type of monkey, also exhibit homosexuality in captivity and in the wild. Males are affectionate to each other, touching, holding and embracing. Females smack their lips at each other and play games like hide-and-seek, peek-a-boo and follow the leader. And both sexes mount members of their own sex."
OTHER MAMMALS?
"Among mammals, male and female bottlenose dolphins frequently engage in homosexual activity, both in captivity and in the wild. Homosexuality is particularly common among young male dolphin calves."
THEY EVEN HAVE THREESOMES!!!
"As adults, they cooperate to entice a single female and keep other males from her. Sometimes they share the female, or they may cooperate to help one male."
BOTTOM LINE
"“You have this idea that the animal kingdom is strict, old-fashioned Roman Catholic,” she said, “that they have sex just to procreate.
”In bonobos, she noted, “you see expressions of sex outside the period when females are fertile. Suddenly you are beginning to see that sex is not necessarily about reproduction.”
- More evidence from wikipedia nick5
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This is a reply to # 271,254Will you ignore this too or finally admit the fact that you were WRONG?
"Homosexual behavior is common in the Animal Kingdom, especially in species closer to humans on the evolutionary scale, such as the great apes. Georgetown University has specifically theorized that homosexuality, at least in dolphins, is an evolutionary advantage that minimizes interspecies aggression, especially among males.
* Male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding. In 2004, the Central Park Zoo in the United States replaced one male couple's stone with a fertile egg, which the couple then raised as their own offspring [2]. German and Japanese zoos have also reported homosexuality among their penguins. This phenomenon has also been reported at Kelly Tarlton's Aquarium in Auckland, New Zealand. [3]
* Courtship, mounting, and full anal penetration between bulls is common among American bison. The Mandan nation Okipa festival concludes with a ceremonial enactment of this behavior, to "ensure the return of the buffalo in the coming season [4]." Also, mounting of one female by another is common among cattle. (See also, Freemartin. Freemartins occur because of clearly causal hormonal factors at work during gestation.)
* Homosexuality in male sheep (found in 6–10% of rams) is associated with variations in cerebral mass distribution and chemical activity. A study reported in Endocrinology concluded that biological factors are in play; this study replicated similar findings in humans. It shows that approximately 10% of males are homosexual and that the brains of homosexual males are different. [5]."
Note the last part about the brains. This would be another indication that homosexuals are born that way.
- Re: More evidence from wikipedia anonymousjane_01
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This is a reply to # 271,256
The alpha male will use his penis to put into submission a lower level male; it let's everyone know who boss. That happens in the ape species, and human species. However, other than domination over another what would be the point of homosexuality, esp. among humans. Why would one sex fall in love with the same? Where's the procreation advantage?
* Homosexuality in male sheep (found in 6–10% of rams) is associated with variations in cerebral mass distribution and chemical activity. A study reported in Endocrinology concluded that biological factors are in play; this study replicated similar findings in humans. It shows that approximately 10% of males are homosexual and that the brains of homosexual males are different. [5]."
The brains of homosexual males are different, a congenital defect, a freak, it's like having schizophrenia, or cerebral palsy, it's not a normal condition. That's my point. It's a condition where the person needs to be reconditioned, given therapy, or something to get normal.
Now do you see you are wrong, or are you too stubborn, and brainwashed by the mass media to admit it?
- Re: More evidence from wikipedia anonymousjane_01
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This is a reply to # 271,260
The alpha male will use his penis to put into submission a lower level male; it let's everyone know who boss. That happens in the ape species, and human species. However, other than domination over another what would be the point of homosexuality, esp. among humans. Why would one sex fall in love with the same? Where's the procreation advantage?
* Homosexuality in male sheep (found in 6–10% of rams) is associated with variations in cerebral mass distribution and chemical activity. A study reported in Endocrinology concluded that biological factors are in play; this study replicated similar findings in humans. It shows that approximately 10% of males are homosexual and that the brains of homosexual males are different. [5]."
The brains of homosexual males are different, a congenital defect, a freak, it's like having schizophrenia, or cerebral palsy, it's not a normal condition. That's my point. It's a condition where the person needs to be reconditioned, given therapy, or something to get normal.
Now do you see you are wrong, or are you too stubborn to admit that!!
- again more evidence that you are wro... nick5
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This is a reply to # 271,261http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/may2000/959610750.Zo.r.html
"Giraffes do it, goats do it, birds and bonobos and dolphins do it. Humans
beings--a lot of them anyway--like to do it too, but of all the planet's
species, they're the only ones who are oppressed when they try.
"Among bonobos, a
chimplike ape, homosexual pairings account for as much as 50% of all
sexual activity. Females especially engage in repeated acts of same-sex
sex, spending far more than the 12 or so seconds the whole transaction can
take when a randy male is involved."
"Male giraffes practice necking--
literally--in a very big way, entwining their long bodies until both
partners become sexually aroused."
^Nope, those definitely don't have anything to do about the alpha male showing his superiority.
"Animals as diverse as elephants and rodents practice same-sex mounting,
and macaques raise that affection ante further, often kissing while
assuming a coital position. "
"Humboldt penguins may have homosexual unions that last six
years; male greylag geese may stay paired for 15 years--a lifetime
commitment when you've got the lifespan of a goose.
"Bears and some other
mammals may bring their young into homosexual unions, raising them with
their same-sex partner just as they would with a member of the opposite
sex."
- again more evidence that you are wro... nick5
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- Re: More evidence from wikipedia nick5
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This is a reply to # 271,260"The alpha male will use his penis to put into submission a lower level male; it let's everyone know who boss. That happens in the ape species, and human species. However, other than domination over another what would be the point of homosexuality, esp. among humans."
So? Even if it,s not for the same purpose, it's still sex, and sex between two of the same gender=homosexuality. Your statement leads nowhere, and therefore does not prove your point in any way.
Besides you ignored a lot of the other stuff that had nothing to do with the dominance of the alpha male. Female do it too, why did you ignore that?
And you literally said something like "I've never heard of fishes, cats, birds, etc etc, doing it". Come on, at least admit that you were wrong about THAT. It would AT LEAST give a credibility boost to your honesty.
"Why would one sex fall in love with the same? Where's the procreation advantage?"
There is none, that's my point; sex isn't ONLY about procreation. It's also about pleasure. If two person of the same sex feel so great when they're together, if they feel such a great attraction between each other, then there is nothing wrong with them having sexual relations! Sexual relations are also an expression of your love for another person!
"The brains of homosexual males are different, a congenital defect, a freak, it's like having schizophrenia, or cerebral palsy, it's not a normal condition. That's my point."
Hahaha. I was expecting something like that. The truth is you just pulled that straight out of your ass! Nowhere does it say that except in your closed mind! Relying on lies and made up stories is a typical christian attitude!
If anything indicates a congenital defect it's the need to serve a super imaginary friend (god)! Are you too brainwashed by your fairy tales book to see that you are wrong?? Or did your alpha male (god) use his penis on you to force you into submission!!! LOL!!
- Re: More sickness from christianity! Uncas
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This is a reply to # 271,260The brains of homosexual males are different, a congenital defect, a freak, it's like having schizophrenia, or cerebral palsy, it's not a normal condition. That's my point. It's a condition where the person needs to be reconditioned, given therapy, or something to get normal.<<
This is the most bigoted ,judgemental egotistical, hurtful, spiteful expression of better then thou I have ever seen! Its no wonder Chistians commit suicide over these issues!
It's no wonder they hung withches and gays! With such hateful bigotry now being expressed as science, a Science that only bashes and points fingers , that does not one ounce of good is frightful. I would hate to be born gay in a christian communty! I would live in fear! This above message should be ashamed of itself !
- Re: More evidence from wikipedia anonymousjane_01
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This is a reply to # 271,260
No, I'm not a bigot, I don't gay bash(btw you are a bigot against Christians, does that make it more right?), but I don't think it's right. I am not going to *out* a closet gay for his embarrasment, I don't support gay hate crimes. My way to persuade a gay to repent is to talk to him/her in private. I would also vote against gay marriage, as I think marriage is a sacred ceremony between a man and woman.
So 1)Not supporting gays does not mean I am a gay basher
2)You a Christian basher, but you don't think anything is wrong with that. You are wrong if I am wrong.My message was not bigoted ,"judgemental egotistical, hurtful, spiteful", but just like you "take the gloves off" so will I. BTW, what I said is none of those things. It is what it is. Gays need to repent. They are sinful and wrong. Sure, everyone wants to be carnal, but what does it get you?...Herpes, STD, promiscuity, high suicide rates, and the list goes on. Why do you think they have only young people in gay pride parades, and in flyers for gay events? That's b/c gays have a low age for death, the die prematurely. And I'm sure you'll debate that line, and every other one on my post. So go ahead. But I might, might not read or respond to it.
God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
- Re: More evidence from wikipedia Uncas
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This is a reply to # 271,265The ignorence in that message is astounding ! christian bashing, yes I am, just like i call out the thieves and liars in this government! This is not the roman age I am not ceasar you are the establishement you throw your weight around and demand and persicute, you are the modern day romans and yes I do bash christianty, its nothing but an abusive use of power ! Gays are powerless they have no rights, christians sit there in judgement of them abusing the power of thier religion and call themself a kind person a nice person , I Uncas the christian prosicuting ogre who makes laws to inhibit your acts who propagate hate through out the land who burns you at the stake huh lol! yah Im a christian basher and proud of it! You think this age old hateful bigoted act of aggression towards gays is new or that you are less quilty of the crimes of the past against these people. Gay bashing christians are in the same boat as those who threw the torch ! You still do the same by your ignorant hamful postition. My stance against you and your ilk is moot it accomplishes no persicution of you my ability to see through your sinful hate is all the power I have ! And the power to see kind of bigotry on a forum and expose it for its hateful ways! Thank you for obliging me!
Christianity has a lot of different versions but I particularly like the one in which Jesus is gay, bisexual and his gay lover judas iscariot who scorned betrays Jesus! Seems Judas had no particular purpose as a disciple and it was never discussed why Jesus called on him ,except his love for Jesus and his for him! But ultimately Jesus loved another more! - Re: More evidence from wikipedia MrCooties
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This is a reply to # 271,265>>>>>>"Not supporting gays does not mean I am a gay basher"<<<<<<<<<
"Not supporting" means you are implying that you are neutral about gays, which you clearly are not. You have called them immoral, corrupt, sinful, wrong, not normal, unwholesome, defects, freaks... You are indeed a gay basher in every sense of the word. But bashing goes against your religion doesn't it? Easier to lie to yourself and to your god than to actually follow your own religion huh?
This is a great example of my "pick and choose" thread asking you christians why you don't follow your own religion, yet give it credibility... no one has yet to answer my questions but they do give me many paragraphs of spin to avoid answering... - Re: More evidence from wikipedia nick5
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This is a reply to # 271,265"Giraffes do it, goats do it, birds and bonobos and dolphins do it. Humans
beings--a lot of them anyway--like to do it too, but of all the planet's
species, they're the only ones who are oppressed when they try.
"Among bonobos, a
chimplike ape, homosexual pairings account for as much as 50% of all
sexual activity. Females especially engage in repeated acts of same-sex
sex, spending far more than the 12 or so seconds the whole transaction can
take when a randy male is involved."
"Male giraffes practice necking--
literally--in a very big way, entwining their long bodies until both
partners become sexually aroused."
^Nope, those definitely don't have anything to do about the alpha male showing his superiority.
"Animals as diverse as elephants and rodents practice same-sex mounting,
and macaques raise that affection ante further, often kissing while
assuming a coital position. "
"Humboldt penguins may have homosexual unions that last six
years; male greylag geese may stay paired for 15 years--a lifetime
commitment when you've got the lifespan of a goose.
"Bears and some other
mammals may bring their young into homosexual unions, raising them with
their same-sex partner just as they would with a member of the opposite
sex." - ignoring everything that proves you ... nick5
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This is a reply to # 271,265WHat ignorance and lies in your message!
Why do you think they have only young people in gay pride parades, and in flyers for gay events? That's b/c gays have a low age for death, the die prematurely.
That's not true we see old gay couples all the time!! 60 years old and over! You know nothing of what you speak! You are stuck in your own little world of ignorance and don't want to get out!
And I'm sure you'll debate that line, and every other one on my post. So go ahead. But I might, might not read or respond to it.
There's no debate, because this isn't about opinions, it's about facts, and you are wrong! So there's no debate! Of course you won't respond, you always ignore the stuff that proves you wrong! Just like all christians! Another proof that you want to remain in your little ignorant world! And yes christian bashing is better than gay bashing, gay isn't a choice, christian is! I'd rather be gay than a christian, because at least I'd still be able to think rationally and enjoy life, and debate with intelligence, something christians are CLEARLY unable to do!!
God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
Hahaha, we all saw that one before, at least 200 times. You think it's clever and funny? It's just boring and stupid, and besides, Adam and eve are fictional characters! They don't exist! Again relying on the book of LIES to support your position! This will do you no good when trying to debate with inteligent, rational and free thinking people!
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