The Journey to the Light 
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I want you to know how this this going to The Light experience is not a scary thing.....I did feel a little disoriented at first though...There was darkness at first....then there was spinning whirling tunnel around me...Lots of dark purples... and blues..and greens....then way out...beyond the beyond...there was this light...As soon as I recognized the light...it felt like I had been lost and finally...now...I knew... I was going home....
It all started when my head went crashing through the side windows of my car...as my car rolled over and over... I had my life review...but then...as my body flew in and then out of my front windsheild...the life review ended.....
the universe started spinning......as if the flesh or material world began to spin off of my being...all kinds of darkness was shedding from me like layers of an onion...whirling off of me....
As I was rising away from my body...I entered a tunnel...When I first saw the light at the end of the tunnel...I recognized my first thought...The light is love...Wherever it was I was going to...I knew it was going to be good....When I emerged from the tunnel, I entered a place that was blistering white....Light so bright that all of the colors of the objects in this place...bled away...I could tell objects had colors...but I could only discern the color by adjusting my perception of it...imagine ten shades of white and then a highlight of green or gold...
As I reached the end of the tunnel....there was a being who met me...An orb of light...about the size of a person's body from the bottom of their neck to bottom of their stomach...elevated off of the deck of a floor about the height of someone's legs.... If this sounds far fetched...It didn't seem that way when I was there...
...This being gave me some instructions...It was interesting how the being spoke to me from the top center of where I imagine one's sternum might be...in the orb...and I heard the message...not from my ears...but from the same centered place...
The message was to not look up or I would die...As we walked along...I did have the sensation of walking....I was looking down at the road....The road coloration was some type of translucent gold...I couldn't see all the way trhough it ...but I could see through a certain measure of thickness...let us say 9 inches or so....
As we were going down this road with my vision diverted down...we came to our destination...I noticed a huge double door.....hewn out of wood...with ornate carving and one ring on each side of the door....
...I remember opening the door and I was in a stadium sized room....As I was looking down ...I can not tell you how high the place was...but I can tell you it was about the length of football field wide....And there were a dozen or so rows of collosal Pillars ....
The Pillars were wonderful....As I walked past one of them...I stopped and looked at one for a long moment....The Pillars were I imagine...about 10 to 12 feet wide...and they were embedded with every kind of jewel imaginable....They were beautiful saphires, emeralds, diamonds...the colors of the jewels were beautiful....but again the light was so intense that I could only see the colors sparkling as an afterthought... The pillars were staggered two-50 yards apart...and then two about 75 yards apart all the way to a series of steps.
As I entered the room... I could hear the voices of millions of singers...the sounds of a million instruments....all playing their own strange beautiful song ...but somehow...this most wonderful of sounds...this orchestra and choir....created a harmonious wonderful sound...The sound was thunderously loud...but it didn't hurt my ears....in fact...I felt no pain whatsoever..This music surpasses any music I have ever imagined....It is second in beauty only to the glorious lovely light....
I then ended up in front of a hewn wooden courtroom bench...The bench was tall...I could not see the top of it because I was looking down....But it was at least 10-15 fee tall. At least it felt as if I was in a court-room.
This has exhausted me a bit. Telling this story is so personal....but I want you to know that the being I was about to speak with... I called this being "God"....I could also call this being Love....This being is The Light......The intensity of this light is so strong...but the light doesn't blind you....
If you want to know more...I will tell you...I can tell you this...God is greater than any version of a deity we have ever imagined...on earth...the love of this being is bigger than all of the great religions..Christianity...Buddism...or god's Krishna...Jehovah..or anything...because the Love of this being
is the love of all that there is....I imagine this being as God...but if u want to imagine this being as something else...go ahead....If you could sum up this being as one word though... I would call this being Love.
If you want more of this story...It is quite a revelation...What must have taken only moments on earth...seemed like it could have been quite a long period of time...while I was there...but there was no time there...Let me know if you want to know what this being said to me....
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- pleeeeeeease! Tracey
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This is a reply to # 562,556Are you kidding, Rudenski! I am hanging on every word!! I had, in a couple points of reading your experience, tears spring to my eyes - that synchronistic feeling of Knowingness! Ooooooh.
Please do tell us what this Being of pure Love communicated to you!
I love that the being that first greeted you was an 'orb of light' - that we are all essentially orbs of light has been written about for aeons...And the sternum area is halfway between the heart chakra and the solar plexus chakra....our 'Core Star' according to some. Our center.
Oooooh fascinating!
I want to hear more!
Thank you sooo much for sharing this personal experience with us...
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This is a reply to # 562,556Are you kidding, Rudenski! I am hanging on every word!! I had, in a couple points of reading your experience, tears spring to my eyes - that synchronistic feeling of Knowingness! Ooooooh.
Please do tell us what this Being of pure Love communicated to you!
I love that the being that first greeted you was an 'orb of light' - that we are all essentially orbs of light has been written about for aeons...And the sternum area is halfway between the heart chakra and the solar plexus chakra....our 'Core Star' according to some. Our center.
Oooooh fascinating!
I want to hear more!
Thank you sooo much for sharing this personal experience with us...
Tracey- For Lapis rudenski
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This is a reply to # 562,559The word "Creator" has a lot of conotations I am not sure I can handle very well. What if all that there was from the beginning was perfect. How can you improve perfection? What if free-will always was...and rebellious beings chose to try to create their own form of perfection...and imperfection was the creation of these rebelious beings...and likewise began the atomic clock..time was created...Time is esentially based on an atomic clock...An atomic clock begins marking the death of atoms in millions or billions of years? Death was created. What if that act of creating time was an act of rebellion? Then nothing good since the beginning of "time" has ever been created?
What if...every soul existed before time was created..perfect..without blemish? Now imagine that free will was given to every soul. Some of these free willed souls hid from the light(1/3) And the rest of the free willed beings chose to remain in the light. The 1/3 of beings that rebelled were cast out of heaven...this created time(the atomic clock=death) There have been two ages since the beginning of time...BC and AD.
There will be a third age. The age of Aquarius( The Millenial reign) This thrid age is a time when the being who created time will be bound up. Teachers(millions of them) will return from heaven to a purified version of the earth... There will still be tpeople born into the world. This age of enlightenment will be God's Victory lap.
I hope to come back to help out people born into this Garden of Eden like world. I would like to learn as much as I can in this life so that I will be elected to come back during this third age. There will be hundreds of billions of souls who will remain in heaven during this millenial reign...but that is okay...wonderful...
Time will also end...all things will be reconciled to God. Even the rebellious. But they may have to wait out infinity to be reconciled. But Infinity ends...Time stops when the plan of God is perfected(all souls get there learnings and with free will reconcile their rift with God)
This particular post may not be relevant to my NDE. I only wanted to answer your statement about the "Creator"
As far as other books... I try to steer away from peoples books about the other side because I want to remain as objective as I can about my NDE. I have not always succeeded.The best thing for me is just to understand the meanings of words and apply them to my experience. If I knew all of the meanings of evey language ever spoke though...I still could only describe my experience through my warped carnal mind.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 562,576I want you to know that the information in this last post was not revealed to me in my NDE...It may all be carnal. That is just what I think given my limited understanding of the the carnal world.
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This is a reply to # 562,556Call me a cynic rudenski, but knowing the response you've had to your original post, our sincere desire to hear all about your experience, why do you leave us dangling?. I really want to believe you truly went through all this, otherwise you're one heck of a talented writer!
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This is a reply to # 562,562Im sorry...I know you want to hear the story...but It is difficult to say stuff about the NDE in words...It is like saying describe love....It takes time to digest each part of the experience....I did indeed have an NDE....I have a twelve inch scar on the back of my neck...where my neck was fused...c-4-5-6.
If that proves anything...it just proves that I could have had an NDE. I think the real proof of my experience is the changes in my outlook on life...I may have said I had been in the military...When I joined the military....I had the overpowering desire to destroy communism...I fantasized about flying to Moscow on a one way trip...on a secret mission...to destroy the Kremlin with a nuclear device....(does this sound vaguely familiar..I became a pilot when I was 15...throwing newspapers...sacking groceries...or whatever I could to get to flying lesson...I had to sit on a phone book to see over the das...I was a good pilot. I spent years learning every weapons system...waiting for my chance to do my part to change the world...When Ronald Reagan Spoke of the Evil Empire...I thought my time would soon come....
The change: When I returned from my NDE...I no longer wanted to kill anyone...I left the army...I spent years trying to figure out what God meant for me to do..I know this....I am not a Saint...but I try to make every day...a day where I personally try to give the same type of love to others that was shown to me...I fail to give Love the way it was given to me...but I know that the very effort of giving as much love as you can is not forgotten...This is a long way from my unelightened believer in the American Dream Myth I had before my experience....I know more than anything...that "God" is love.....and that is a long way from what I believed before my experiece...The God I knew before my Experience was an Angry Avenging God...The God I know now is like a cross between a loving mom and a caring daddy...Proof is hard stuff....I guess I will never be able to prove Yah exists to folks hardened against it...If I walked on water...somebody might say it is just a special effect...or mind manipulation....This event happened more than 20 years ago...It is hard to put down in words something that is not in the context of what I am familiar...Try describing love to me...in detail...in the written form...and get back with me..Even though I experienced a NDE, it is not easy to make the words to describe it come out to easy...- Re: The Journey to the Light alikat
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WOW! I tell you rudenski, I understand what you mean about how difficult it is to describe something as truly ethereal as what you went through, but you have a wonderful ability to do it anyway in terms that we are all just hanging on your next words.
When my father was young he had an NDE and he mentioned that just looking at the grass growing around was incredibe, and he said the green was so intense it was as if it were the "essence" of green, meaning you could taste, feel, hear and even taste a color if you focused on it because everything was so ALIVE.
Have you ever or are you plannning to write your experience at large?
Oh BTW, what did the Being say to you? -----(Us?) - Re: The Journey to the Light Tracey
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This is a reply to # 562,563Rudenski...
You are describing your experience verrrrry well.
And how it transformed your life from wanting to kill the 'evil other' to living with Love.....ah!! Amazing.
Last night I told your NDE experience to my boyfriend over dinner - and it had an excellent effect...
Thank you so much for taking the time to describe your experience to us!
Last night I couldn't wait to hear what comes next....what did he say?? Or was it in a 'thought/feeling form'? Or......?
Can't wait!
Tracey- Re: The Journey to the Light rudenski
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This is a reply to # 562,565I wrote 5 paragraphs....I don't know why...but they disappeared....
I don't know if I can tell you? Why was it taken from me? Maybe your journey will be different than my journey? Maybe I said...some untruth? Maybe you are not supposed to know the whole story?
This is exhausting....try describing an adjective...or love...or air...and then try describing it as the most important experience of your life but take away any reference to anything you have ever experienced on earth...It is quite draining...I have grown weak...I will try again when I can recharge....sowwy...Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 562,566Ugh! You lost the 5 pages? How awful...frustrating...curious...and terrible for us!
Maybe when you re-charge you'll be able to tell us.
I do believe that NDE's are as varied and different and unique as each individual having them. But I found yours so very fresh - after all it wasn't a stereotypical religious figure that greeted you (cloaked in the camoflauge of your belief system)...but a simple sphere of light! I do want to hear the rest of the story...but understand that it might not come for a few days if ever...?
Maybe it was you that didn't really want to send it...? Each of us will interpret it according to our own beliefs anyway...
Rest.
Tracey- Forget Tracey and tell Paulette.... Southern Belle
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This is a reply to # 562,567Maybe you can retype those 5 paragraphs for me and it will appear! Ha No, just kidding!
But, we do want to know!!
Paulette
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This is a reply to # 562,556I would like to know more about these NDE stories posted here. How can we read the rest of the stories???
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This is a reply to # 562,643go to curezone.com.
then look under NDE Forum. All of the NDE topics will show up. It is a new forum. Please make a comment about anything. It helps eveyone get a new perspective. I would love to hear of any comments you have about any of the Posts. : ) rudenski...- Re: The Journey to the Light rudenski
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This is a reply to # 562,645This is a fairly new forum...I am hoping lots of people will post their experience but NDE's are very personal. People can only reveal them when it is the right time and they feel safe to say them. : )
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Look at the post..NDE: And the this Ultimate Expression of Love spoke to me by rudenski 3 days R
All of these posts are not in a logical order... if you want to see the posts in a logical sequence up to now...some loving curezone member posted them in the newsletter: //www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=83&i=279
That may help out the folks who are trying to follow the stream of conscious responses to my NDE : )- Last question... #163556
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This is a reply to # 562,651You mentioned how you were in the Military and wanted to kill and avenge.. *sigh*
I thought maybe you could give me some insight. It sounds exactly like my ex bf. Though before he became interested in the Military, he and I were in love. I've experienced different levels of love in my whole life, and a lot of times I would find it hard to love someone, but this I gave this guy the purest form of [romantic] love I've ever given anyone. Everything was perfect, even though we lived 250 miles away, we went to every extreme to be together at least a couple times a month, and we still managed to talk to each other every day. This went on for about a year.
It's been since August since we've broken up. Sometimes he'll tell me he's never stopped loving me. And I have never stopped loving him - not in any way shape or form. Then... he announced that he joined the Military, on Active Duty, so he'll be gone... out of this country... for many years.. and the only reason he's ever given me was something silly, like, all of a sudden he's intersted in guns and violence. He likes harming small animals and such. And of course, he wants to be more appealing to women. I found this appaling - it's not like him at all. I wish I could make him understand the meaning of things like love, not violence. I've always wanted him to believe in things like God. But he's an athiest, and there seems to be nothing I can do to change his mind about that, or the Military... I'm afraid I'll never see him again.
I, myself, have never had a NDE but I have an account with CureZone because I suffer from many chronic illnesses that prevent me from doing things like going to school (I get homeschooled) and having a job. Recently I lost all of my friends as well. I feel like I have no purpose.. but all I can think about is helping him. I hope I didn't waste your time by spilling my guts, I guess I just need some advice from a spiritual person.
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This is a reply to # 562,665I have been profoundly lonely since my NDE at times. I believe it is because my flesh and my spirit are often at war. No matter how spiritual I am, my flesh desires what is not spiritual. But...although I know I am causing myself spiritual harm...I often do exactly what I don't want to do. I loved a woman for years who was a ferocious alcoholic...she had a legion of addictions in her body....but when we met...all I could see was her beautiful soul....I learned a lot from being with her...When she quit drinking I married her...When she started again...we divorced...I love her so much....You get what you can handle in this world...you gave love to someone who is buried in layers of darkness...but you loved him anyway...I know that is how "God" loves us. But God doesn't want our flesh. You looked through his darkness to see a beautiful soul. I did the same....I grew a lot from loving someone who couldn't love me back...but I finished that learning...
I still love her...and she finally quit drinking...but it is now my turn to love somebody who is not so selfish. I am sure that I will learn lots of new stuff and grow in a different direction...I am excited about the possibility...
We...all of us...who affect each other...knew each other before we were born....We make contracts with each other to help each other out in our learnings..but we all have free will...he got stuck in the mire of darkness...but still you learned lots of good stuff about love from him and he learned about true love from you...
Maybe you should consider ignoring your fleshly desires for his physical love... and just begin sending him beams of light...If you line up your love with an unselfish intention...then your spiritual brother will receive much more than you could give him in the physical world...and you would be far out of his war-path...maybe his eyes will open up to the light you send his way...
Either way...you risk a lot of physical harm by wanting to be with someone who dwells on hate... What you saw in him...his soul bare to you...is divine...and everyone has a beautiful soul...
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This is a reply to # 562,665My heart goes out to you in your post you stated you felt you had nothing more. I have read Rudinskis post about his NDE. I do believe in the life after. I also believe God is Love. Believe me when i say you do not have to Die or have a NDE to experience Gods Amazing Love. It is all about being in tune with his spirit thru prayer (simply talking to God) He will reveal truths about your past and show you things in your future. At times it does play out like a movie. Your heart only has to be open to Him. All is not hopeless.
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