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We need help from others farther down the path of healing breast cancer. Here's the story so far:
My partner, Janet, was diagnosed last month with invasive ductal carcinoma. The doctor's recommendation was for immediate surgery, a mastectomy, because of the proximity of part of the mass to her nipple, possibly with chemo and tamoxifen afterwards. We decided against the surgery and have been researching conventional and alternative treatments.
I do the bulk of the research, as I simply do not have faith in conventional medicine to heal the body, don't accept the conventional treatments as healthy(!) and have some good experience with alternatives. Without my encouragement to consider alternatives, Janet would already have had surgery.
Immediately after being diagnosed, we (I do everything with Janet, same diet, etc. as support)
we stopped eating foods that cause the body to be more acid; no more alcohol, meat, fish, dairy, wheat or sweeteners of any kind. We have been eating very lightly, just raw fruits & vegies and juicing. We get daily exercise, plenty of sunlight, saunas and good sleep. We also started on a parasite cleanse (ParaGone), which we're in the middle of. Janet also did two colonics.
In appearance, Janet is healthy as could be, in generally excellent physical condition, very active.
The supplements we're taking are as follows:
Cell Quest (a banana sap enzyme)
Wobenzyme
Essiac tea
Digitoxin
Vacustatin (convolvulus or bindweed)
Artemesinin
NK&T cell enhancer
RM-10
CoQ-10
flaxseed oil (w/cottage cheese)
DIM
graviola
antioxidant capsules
tumeric
fennel
MSM
vitamins A, B-complex, C & E
apricot kernels
raspberry seeds (Ellagic Acid)
calcium
magnesium
Rhodiola
yew extract
Green Vibrance (nutritional powder)
Bio-Bac (from Spain, no longer available- a friend had some his sister-in-law did not use)
The only additional supplemnents we're considering taking is B-17 and MGN-3.
At this point in the research, what looks to be the best path forward is to commit to a set program of fasting, to let the body rest. Dr. Richard Schulze 's "INCURABLES" program is what we're considering
(
http://healingtools.tripod.com/DS_pages.html#new
specifically:
http://healingtools.tripod.com/incurprog1.html
and
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/20067.html
), beginning with the juice fast, super foods, castor oil packs, high enemas, hot & cold showers, cold sheet treatment, etc.
-Does anyone have experience with this method? Recommendations?
-If this is the path, what, if any, of the supplements should we continue taking while doing the juice fast, etc?
-Are any other supplements recommended?
-Are any other healing programs recommended instead of Dr. Schulze 's?
We want to decide on a comprehensive program and stick with it.
* * * OUR MAIN REQUEST * * *
Janet would like very much to talk with people ASAP who have treated/are treating Breast Cancer solely through alternative METHODS, regardless of results. There's nothing like real life experience to help her decide what course to take. There are too many people telling her to get surgery as soon as possible, don't wait (don't think). Hopefully some of you will help balance this.
The best way to contact Janet is by phone, in Florida, at 541-350-7843. Second best is through my e-mail: balloonman1999@h...
Urgency is important. I'm American, but Janet is British. She's in the US on a visitor's visa that expires this week. We leave for Europe on Wednesday evening. Because she is covered by the socialized medicine in England (and not insured in the US), she has scheduled surgery in England, on May 10th, as a fall-back plan…
Thank you for helping us. Best wishes to all!
http://healingtools.tripod.com/DS_pages.html#new
http://healingtools.tripod.com/incurprog1.html
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/20067.html- Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: diet... shrinksarah
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This is a reply to # 80,993You should probably also consider using a zapper or some such technology. - Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: diet... Ron
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This is a reply to # 80,993Please post more, my wife is in the exact same situation however, has started surgery, she is on the rollercoaster. I like you, don't see the current methods as a cure, my gut feel is it is wrong. The surgery approach is like hit and miss with unfortunately the women as the guinea pig, with still no real answers. The end result leaving a woman scarred and physically traumatised and immune system even more prone to further invasion by more or other disease.
I am trying to encourage my wife to address her body health problems but find it difficult to discount any avenue even the surgery one. We just don't know enough. I'd like to take her down the alternative path but she won't do that as first choice. It seems you have had some more success.
Note have you heard of the 2:16 Oestrogen ratio. Apparently new research has shown that those with an overbalance on the 16 side of the equation are more prone or have cancer. Likewise for men with testosterone. The test is fairly simple: urine and saliva analysed. 2 oestregen is weak good stuff the 16 side is the strong bad stuff. I've gotten my wife to have this test. Note that enzymes are involved in the breakdown and decay of hormones such as oestregen and testosterone. One alternative treatment is to boost enzymes.
Other areas of interest are: bacteria potentially a cause or not? Boosting the immune system can help here. Is it further weakened by bad hormone balance and enzymes. To allow bacteria/cancer to get established. Followed by the Hoxsey formula to boost immune system.- Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: diet... nitab
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This is a reply to # 80,996you can use the flax oil and cottage cheese with any treatment. I have had 2 friends who were at deaths door, used cemo and the flax oil and Cottage cheese. It can't hurt. I mix a little milk or other liquid, with the 1/2 cup of cottage cheese then the flax oil then pineapple in a blender> I can't even taste the oil.
May God bless,- Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: diet... RonV
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This is a reply to # 81,031Thanks Nitab,
I've just started looking at the budwig protocol and will certainly be doing that I think for my wife. My naturopath also said flaxseed oil was good to balance the oestrogen hormones as well to improve the 2:16 oestrogen balance. I have still to find how often and how much is suggested to use per day, also I read you can mix it with yoghurt which is probably the way we will do it.
ta..- Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: diet... nitab
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MoreThis is a reply to # 81,038Please remember that is you use yougert you have to use about 3 times as much as the Cottage cheese.
God Bless
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- Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: diet... Magnussa
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This is a reply to # 80,993I had good results with cancer by using healing energies like Reiki.
http://www.magnussa.com/mprue1.html
Before Reiki, I was successful with a very strict diet that balances the biochemistry of the body:
http://www.magnussa.com/cancer.html
Hope that helps.
Warmest regards,
Elisabeth - Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: diet... #20709
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This is a reply to # 80,993Hi Bill,
As a dietitian, I would like to encourage you to please follow Richard Shultze's 'Incurables' program to the 'T'. It works - from the videos that I have seen.
PLease continue with raw foods as much as possible, juices and exercise. Get her body to remain alkaline so that no cancer like conditions can exist. This also works.
Also, please consider prayer as an important part of your program. Cheers. -
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This is a reply to # 80,993I like what you are doing. If it was me I would also add rebounding, ,magnetic pulsing and lymph massage, and Colloidal Silver . colonics would also be beneficial. For the gut, good quality colostrum and probiotics (iflora is great).
What are you doing for emotional work and spiritual help?
Also alkalinize (vegetable juices..organic) and oxygenate (ozonated water..make your own) Cancer can't live in an oxygenated, alkaline environment. Then the mag pulser and enzymes will help with lymph penetration and drainage (along with hot/cold showers, rebounding and lymph massage).
Guided imagery/meditation will be also be very helpful.
I would look into Dr. Hamer's research for the emotional/trauma connection (very profound).
Laugh as much as possible and maintain a positive outlook.
Also have you considered environmetal issues/toxins such as mold exposures or other toxic exposures (ongoing)?
Learn about the term "total load" as used by Sherry Rogers MD.
I recommend all her books. They will give you much insight.
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This is a reply to # 80,993You may try Pau d'Arco and Graviola. If the Cancer is in early stages, it MAY cause remission.
However if it has come about from using an antiperspirant, it may have gone into the lymph system. Try warm castor Oil packs along with Pau d'Arco! in the entire area.
It depends on how far its gone to have any positive effect do the above ASAP and keep on doing same for possible remission ???
Take strong Pau d'Arco tea 3 or times daily!
Hope for the best! B-0b1 - Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: diet... Pegasus Healer
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This is a reply to # 80,993Hi Janet and Bill,
After many years of running a busy practice as a spiritual healer, teacher and life coach, I found myself in early 1998, with a diagnosis of invasive ductile carcinoma, stage 111, which had metastasized, and a prognosis of less than a year to live without conventional medicine.
So dear friends, I recognize the panic, and the desire to do everything possible.
My first step was to find a way to calm down, and not let everyone else’s panic pass on to me. So stillness, and whatever way works for you Janet, to bring some calmness to this stressful news, is the first step. Sounds like Bill is doing a great job of supporting you, so that is a joy in itself.
I was from England, living for many years now abroad. Have completed a book about my journey, which is to inspire and empower those facing challenges in life, not only but also, including cancer. An American icon has written the forward to the book, and also a scientist who writes for a prestigious medical magazine the preface. Unfortunately I can’t pass the book on at present, because it’s sitting with the publishers and I have to wait for them now. But, if you would like to have a private consultation over the phone I am open to that, if you sense it would help you. I would phone you, and in turn give you my phone number so that you can phone me back. I cannot give my number over the net, since I am inundated as it is, and also wish to retain some level of privacy. It seems that the numbers of those diagnosed with cancer are growing rapidly.
When I was given the diagnosis and prognosis, that I had a year to live with metastases breast cancer, I was offered surgery, bone marrow transfer, high dose chemotherapy and radiation. After consideration, I opted for a lumpectomy, and the rest was the alternative path that I put together for myself during the following 2 years, which included not only relating to my physical body but also mind and spirit. I did not take the chemical route at all. My view is a holistic one. Today, 6 years later I continue to be completely cancer free according to the conventional tests that I do periodically. So, yes I can personally say, it is possible to heal yourself from cancer. Takes lots of focus and willingness to be totally honest with yourself. Too long to put here, and varies for each individual. Out of my own sense of responsibility, I could not say that one kind of therapy covers everyone. But I do have the guidelines that I used for myself, and the methods that I put together, and it has worked for me. I cannot claim to be a doctor or scientist, but I have healed myself personally from cancer.
There is a lot of information out there, but please remember to go only, with that which resonates with you. This is a giant wake up call, and only you can decide if you’re willing to do the work it takes. Whatever methods you choose, if it be alternative, complimentary or conventional with chemotherapy, surgery or radiation, my suggestion is to go with your chosen methods 100%, with total focus and commitment. This is not the time to be holding the banner of either conventional or alternative, but to go with whatever you feel you can do with your hand on your heart, and all the way. This is about your life, and not about being righteous.
My own experience is, that there are great gifts to receive through the path, I found a treasure chest. Yes, a challenge, but today my life is richer and deeper, and I am alive and healthy living a vibrant life.
Many blessings to you both, with much love and light
- Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: diet... balloonman1999
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MoreThis is a reply to # 81,001Hello Pegasus Healer,
Thanks for your message. Janet would like very much to talk with you. It will need to be tonight or tomorrow before noon, as we leave for Iceland in the afternoon, on our way to England. You can phone us at 863-420-4541 or 541-350-7843.
Thanks!
- Re: called you. BREAST CANCER, PLEAS... Pegasus Healer
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This is a reply to # 81,023Hope you received the phone message with the numbers to contact me, I left them on your answerphone in US. Have a great trip, Iceland sounds wonderful.- Re: called you. BREAST CANCER, PLEAS... scorpie
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This is a reply to # 81,046Hello,
could you tell me what kind of alternative treatment that you did or are doing? You could email me also if you prefer: [email protected]
thanks for your help.- Re: CANCER, in answer to Scorpie Pegasus Healer
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This is a reply to # 81,055Subject: cancer treatment
Scorpie,
In my mind there is no one, quicky, answer to this question, because for me it was a holistic process in which I had to find what path resonated with me. As I stated before in my other post, there is so much information out there, so many different possibilities, and people with love may offer many different treatment suggestions to you, when wishing to help. Out of having seen both sides of the coin, i.e. working with people as a spiritual healer and teacher, and then being sick myself, my experience taught me that the secret is to find what treatment resonates with you, not me, or anyone else. Once you have the information from either a team of family or friends and professionals that you trust ,it is for you to be still, and listen inwards to what is right for you, and then make your choices.
Personally, I worked not only on my body and the physical aspect detoxing, but also detoxing mind, emotions and spirit. Sensing that cancer does not only have its roots in the physical aspect, but also mental, emotional and spiritual so there is much work to be done there. I feel I would be doing a person with cancer an injustice by simply presenting one method. Its far more complex. Sorry if it isnt straightforward with a do this or do that answer, but in my way of thinking one thing, one treatment will not be the answer to your question. Remembering that it is also the process itself which you go through that brings one to well being and health. There are many lessons to be learnt through having cancer. Yes, I know no one wants to get there, but if we have not taken care of ourselves before, this is a massive wake up call. Much love and light to you all on this journey of awakening. From Pegasus Healer in Israel
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This is a reply to # 81,056Thanks for your reply.
I valued your opinion and insights, but I wish you would still share your method of healing yourself anyway just for comparing notes.
Perhaps also to help others to get new info that they never thought of before. Curezone has turned me 180 deg on my outlook in treating myself with my ailments from conventional medicine to just simply traditional/holistic healings. I have never THOUGHT or KNEW any of these traditional healing before, such as the liver flush, castor oil pack, etc... until I found this site !
Now, I am glad to have confident to know that I can cure myself from illnesses - just steps away from my own kitchen without having to worry about toxic from conventional medicines out there. Plus the support here is tremendous!
all the best,
scorpie
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This is a reply to # 80,993Hello Bill, Wow!
You have a lot of bases covered. Having been down the path,
without the loving support Janet has, I did/doing most of what you have listed.
I worked hard to get my ph up to 6.8. I have found a replacement for the very expensive MGN-3 and that is Host Defense by MycoMedicinals, www.newchapter.info
I get them at my health food store, they are certified organic and cost about $27.00/60veg caps. When I was first diagnosed I took 6 MGN3/day. I had stage 4 breast ca and had the breast removed.
I did not have chemo or radiation. I did go on Taxmoxifen, that was in May 03.
Good luck and God Bless you and Janet.
patti
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This is a reply to # 80,993Hi,
I see your doing alot of good things but I feel compelled to suggest to you that the most important I don't see on your list. You need to read Ed McCabes book "Flood Your Body with Oxygen".
Ozone/oxygen therapy is the most powerful treatment I know of, its track record in alternative treatment is stellar. It is the foundation treatment for all other treatments such as vitamin, mineral supplementation, massages, cleanses etc.
Best Wishes
Rick - Re: BREAST CANCER, PLEASE HELP: diet... thunder d.u
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This is a reply to # 80,993From: thunder d.u < [email protected] >
To: Bill & Janet
Date: 4/20/2004 4:42:15 AM
Subject: Janets Breast cancer
Hi Bill & Janet.I along with many deeply sympathise with your predicament, but can assure you you are making the right moves with your alternative approach. I want you to first of all have a look www.usenature.com/mangosteen.htm,& follow it thru till you reach Http://www.pubmed.com When you get in there ,type in"Mangosteen" then "Xanthones." This will take you thru all sorts of scientific evidence, articles ,& links. Basically, all the tests prove that the Xanthones (now 41 identified ) in Mangosteen + its O.R.A.C. rating.(Oxygen Radical absorbance Capacity) is the highest known by far. 17,000 to 24,000 oracs, compared to prunes 5,770 oracs, its nearest rival! That combination proves to be more potent in killing Breast Cancer cells than 5 of the top 6 chemotherapy drugs used. It is said to be equal in effect to the 6 drug TAXOL. Of course there will not be the side effects that these drugs cause. I must tell you that we import the whole fruit puree of mangosteen juice from your country to ours Australia, & never have we been so proud & excited by anything.In 8 months we have 33 people under us ,& the reports we get from customers has given us a meaning to life. We have just joined another team which is based in U.S. & you are welcome to view our website . In fact if you decide to order the product Xango or even want to get it wholesale ,this is for you. It is www.gomangosteen.com/members/magixango . Be prepared for an exciting read.Now I Have to tell you a story which is somewhat coincidental.Four days ago we were picking quinces from a tree in our orchard for the sunday market, when I felt a series of stings starting from my Adams apple to down to my left nipple. When i pulled my shirt up it revealed a small black ant, which I am obviously allergic to.Since then the stings have been extremely itchy to the point of scratching the tops off. Last night all the bites subsided except for the one on the nipple.It along with nipple was extremely swollen( almost female like) & very painful.Knowing the anti-inflamation properties of Xango I soaked some cotton wool in it & taped it over the swollen area. throughout the morning I used a dropper to let more xango into the cottonwool. Tonight , it is 7.30pm although the nipple is still a little red , I have no pain whatsoever!! I knew it was good ,but this is unbelievable. I can only say you were meant somehow to contact me this day. Xango will prove to be the biggest piece of armament in your arsenal, but would still keep on with Dr budwigs Flaxseed & Yoghurt & also apricot kernels.They are both absolutely proven Cancer fighters. Of course ,if Janet can stomach prunes , 6 a day would be optimal. You now have the "4 tops" Best wishes to you both. Now you know who I am please keep it under your hats.Dave Fergusson & Jo holland
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This is a reply to # 80,993
Dear Bill & Janet
I live in UK, Southampton.
I spend my whole time doing medical R&D.
80% of body energy goes into FOOD DIGESTION.
Cooking destroy's enzymes. Enzymes are manufactured by humans robbing you of cancer removal energy within the 20%.
Taking digestive enzymes, as food or tablets, reduces FOOD DIGESTION energy, increasing cancer removal energy.
You are not taking enough enzymes or amino acids.
That leaves only 20% for cancer removal.
Bath yourself in hot water with 1 fl oz of Hydrogen Peroxide added.
Cancer hates oxygen.
Dr Rath in the Netherlands advises
500 milligrams L-Lysine amino acid Holland & Barrett uk Vitamin World usa
1 gram of Sodium ascorbate or more per day. Ester C is expensive form of sodium ascorbate.
DO NOT TAKE VITAMIN C as Ascorbic acid, because it is poorly absorbed and NO PEER REVIEWED papers.
20 lbs of raw vegetables is equivalent to 1 lb of sprouting seeds.
Sprouting seeds contain all the enzymes and amino acids for life.
Take bitter almonds (B17) with half fresh pineapple.
The pineapple enzymes dissolve the protein coating surrounding the cancerous cells, allowing the B17 to work.
B17 will not work. B17 plus digestive enzymes will work. Any bitter tasting vegetables are anti-cancerous.
I recommend the "Little cyanide cookbook".
Cobinamide dicyanide is vitamin B12. Don't be put off by names. Vitamin B12 contains cyanide group, just like B17.
Sodium ascorbate is low acid vitamin C BUT has a data sheet for your doctor. This work was done a fantastic cost by the USA government over 12 years. I can send you the papers.
I can email the urls, so you can access now on the internet.
You also need lots of sleep.
visit www.google.com search edk university, healing aids.
Instead of one healing cycle per day, you can set up 47 extra healing cycles per day.
All you need is 10 D cells, wired up to produce 3 volts.
Put one layer of turkey aluminium foil on top of matteress, sheet over the top.
Buy 10 feet of electrical wire, strip the insulation off three or four feet and make into big circle and lay ontop of al. foil but underneath sheet to make electrical contact with turkey foil.
Give me your address in UK and I will send you the battery holders free of charge.
The other end of the wire goes to a switch. You flick the switch every 15 minutes.
You can receive treatment FOC at edk university who has 30 beds in USA.
I will await an email.
email me at [email protected] david maddock, 29 ethelburt avenue, southampton, UK, SO16 3DG
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