- **B12 and Raw Food** by Lapis
19 y
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The B-12 Issue for Raw Vegans
from Steven Gibb, Program Director, Creative Health Institute
The reason that we don't assimilate B-12 in the gut is because, when we're inoculated, our intrinsic factor in our gut breaks down. That is the cells in the stomach that absorb nutrients from the food. The way to correct that is to eat fermented foods for one year. So it's either Rejuvelac and/or cabbage.
The second thing that we've discovered is that the dark leafy greens we thought had the B-Complexes in them, especially the B-12s, we're now finding out that they're B-12 Analogs, and B-12 Analogs interfere with the B-12 in our body, which is stored in the liver and other organs. B-12 Analogs attach to the receptor sites, not allowing the B-12 to get into our system. Again, fermented foods (a spoonful or so with every meal) fix this and get the gut going again. So anyone who's been inoculated doesn't assimilate B-12, and this isn't just vegetarians.
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Vitamin B12
The molecular structure of vitamin B12 vitamin. B12 (cobalamin), the most complex of all known vitamins, was announced in 1955 by several scientists, including British biochemists A. R. Todd and Dorothy Hodgkin. In 1973 the vitamin was reported to have been synthesized by organic chemists. Vitamin B12 and closely related cobalamins are necessary for folic acid to fulfill its role; both are involved in the synthesis of proteins. American physicians G. R. Minot and W. P. Murphy in 1926 fed large amounts of liver to patients with pernicious anemia and cured them; the curative substance in this case was probably vitamin B12. However, pernicious anemia in humans is caused not by a vitamin B12 deficiency in the diet but rather the absence of a substance called the intrinsic factor, ordinarily secreted by the stomach and responsible for facilitating the absorption of B12 from the intestine. When a person's body cannot produce the intrinsic factor, the standard treatment today is to inject vitamin B12 directly into the bloodstream. Minot and Murphy’s therapy worked because the liver they fed their patients contained such large quantities of B12 that sufficient amounts of the vitamin were absorbed without the assistance of the intrinsic factor. Inadequate absorption of B12 causes pernicious anemia, nervous system degeneration, and amenorrhea. The only site of cobalamin synthesis in nature appears to be in microorganisms*; neither animals nor higher plants are capable of making these vitamin B12 derivatives. Nevertheless, such animal tissues as the liver, kidney, and heart of ruminants contain relatively large quantities of vitamin B12; the vitamin stored in these organs was originally produced by the (Cyano-) bacteria in the ruminant gut. Bivalves (clams or oysters), which siphon microorganisms* from the sea, are also good sources. Plants, on the other hand, are poor sources of (concentrated)** vitamin B12. The recommended daily dietary allowance for adults is 3 (? see all below) micrograms.
Inoculations destroy the Stomach and GI Track and cause Intrisic factor.
microorganisms*
* Cyanocobalamin - Vitamin B12 producing bacteria are in the Cyanobacterium (algae, moses) family. This class of microorganisms are bacteria that generally require and live in the sunlight and/or oxygenated environment of the plant surfaces, roots, upper soils and in the waters (near surface). They do not survive in the black dark anaerobic environment of interior animal tissues -- though their exo- and endo-compounds (metabolic excretions), including the vitamin B12 compound group, do and is accumulated and concentrated in the herbivorous (plant material consuming) animal (in fecal material, intestines, hence delivered into all body tissues, blood, muscles, entrails, esp. liver and kidneys) and is also expressed (to manage internal tissue levels) through and in body fluids (milk, mucus, urine) or ova (eggs). There is some presumptions of data that pro ports they (Cyanocobalamin bacteria) have some survival and production activity in the (dissolved oxygen and plant nutrient available) gut (primarily gullet and lower intestine) of herbivores / ruminants (e.g. cow, goat, horse, etc.) animals. But it is well understood that the critically important source of B12 in livestock (gen. ruminant) production is in your (unwashed, untreated) silage (corn, grains, beet pulp, ferments) along with alfalfa and hay, wheat grass, barley grass, where these plant loving cyano-bacteria flourish, then enter into the consuming animal!
(concentrated**) -- my insertion to the Columbia Encyclopedia's text, 2nd to last line above. God and nature has made no mistakes in providing sufficient Vitamin B12 to billions of herbivorous animals over millions of millennia - including the vegetarian primates (our biologically nearest creational equivalents) and man! -- if he (man) makes the right dietary choices and nourishes himself the way he was originally designed! -- that is: in and from the garden! -- the perfect home of pure, uncontaminated, light, oxygen and vegetation loving Cyanocobalamin in correct bounty, in low concentrations, but sufficient for our needs!-- Not extorted from defiled, destroyed, killed, disease hosting, disease transmitting and B12 hyper-concentrating animals -- especially carnivorous animals (as poultry, pork, fish, etc.) which accumulate and concentrate even more B12 in their tissue, fluids and ova at levels above and higher than the herbivorous animals and/or the insects which they consume. Hence carnivores (including man when he chooses to be such) do ultra-concentrate B12 in their tissues! Hence in carnivorous man, a falsely high mean standard of B12 levels is accumulated in phlebotomy data and is accepted as the human norm! -- Not good or honest science!!! And that false high standard precipitates wrong diagnosis! that is, lower test values of accumulated serum*** B12 levels -- which are naturally less in non-carnivorous humans and their dependent nursing infants! They then are endangered with the unnecessary administrations of (the sewage and/or animal harvested and formulated) B12 injections and/or tablets, with their plethora of contraindications (ill side affects) possible in many recipient patients or wrongly treated victims!
*** serum (blood stream) levels of B12 is not always a good indication of true internal, intra-/inter-cellular, metabolic, B12 functional levels. It is also (now) known that the cells are very conservative with B12; keeping appropriate stores of it within the cells themselves, recycling it within the intra-cellular (inside) chemistry and allowing only what is necessary in inter-cellular (between cells) chemistry to be exported, hence not requiring (as was previously presumed) high levels of B12 to be carried in blood flow to replenish it. -- tlr 7/3/03
Standard medicine has seriously erred in violation of honored Koch postulates and true scientific method, by producing unnatural high average blood level standards for B12, and assuming them as the correct human mean -- based upon hematological data accumulated and calculated in the cross-section of primarily heavily carnivorous USA/Industrial world humans! Not a true or honest measure for serum B12 levels for all of humanity, nor for creation's biologically intended, apparent and correct human nutrition, chemistry and physiology!
The original concern over Vitamin B12 deficiency (based on research started before three quarters of a century ago and completed over a half century ago) was a perceived relationship in poor health conditions called "pernicious anima" (and other closely related neurological and physiological malfunctions). It now has been established that the true cause of this group of maladies is a failure in the bodies own ability to produce its own correct "intrinsic factor", a compound associated with B12's intra/intercellular transport and use -- which is ill-formed in a hydrochloric acid and bile abused (a condition specifically triggered by the corrosive digestion required for complex, high molecular weight, dense animal proteins and fats within a) malnourished, malfunctioning, or chemically damaged (or rarely, a genetically flawed) intestinal tract -- rather than the old belief that the cause was (as presumed) a Vitamin B12 intake or (a test determined*) serum level deficiency!
-- This error in perception, diagnoses and treatment does persist, even to date among too many non-current or incompletely educated health practitioners, their older peers, administrations and dependent government health and welfare agencies! -- tlr 7/2/03
*Remember, these test protocols and standards were determined over a half century year ago, and also were based on generally highly carnivorous, western human models.
http://creativehealthinstitute.us/news/B12.htm
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- Interesting! by deradune
19 y
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So what do you think this means about the dark leafy greens -- that we should limit intake of them? I actually know a raw foodist of 20 years who has not eaten greens in all those years and swears they are of no use to the human body, but I didn't believe him. But sometimes I wonder what it's all about. And what about the bluegreen algaes? I think I have heard people say they have the B12 analogs too. I don't really know what that means but I'm guessing it is like being "faked out"???
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- b-12 in frozen liquid afa? by windypinesands
19 y
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lapis, is the b-12 in the frozen kalmath lake blue green algae an unusable analog? or can us vegans absorb/assimilate it. thanks.
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windypinesands
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