- 6 Months on the Beck Protocol by #30988
19 y
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Blog: Zapping hiv
I'm HIV Positive. I just wanted to let everyone know that I have followed the Beck Protocol now for 6 months. (Original protocal called for 3 months). I've been doing the following. Using the Sota Silver Pulser I've zapped on the wrists two hours per day (religiously). Using the same silver pulser I've made very good quality CS and have ingested approxomately 8oz per day. Using the Sota brand pulser, I've pulsed before bed every night along the recommended lymph node paths. Using the Sota brand ozonator, I make and drink 3-4 cups of ozonated water a day. Some other things I do on a regular basis...1-3 drops of H2O2 for every cup of CS just before I drink it. New batches react very quickly with this and the mix turns a deep brown (and purplish) color. 2-3day old batches visibly react with H2O2 hardly at all (don't know why, just interesting info). When I travel, doing Ozonated water is the toughest so I suppliment with O2 minerals and may drink more drops of H2O2 (but I hate the taste of H2O2.
NOW the RESULTS: Viral load has INCREASED over the 6 months from 10,000 to 25,000. Not real high but concerning. CD4 counts have increased from 170 to 210; not a major change but at least in the right direction. CD4/CD8 percentage is 20% (this is good).
Now I've heard from those who will argue that HIV lives in the gut. Maybe so but pulsing daily and zapping for two hours a day should still eliminate it from the blood. This hasn't been the case. According to the Beck Papers, the exact same methods I am using put 100's of HIV patients into complete remission...so it makes me wonder what I'm doing wrong. I can accept the idea that HIV is proliferating in the gut since that seems to be where most of the HIV symptions originate. In that regard, I plan on doubling the CS intake to 8oz in the morning and 8oz at night. I will also increase the amount of ozonated water. I already maintain a healthy diet and juice everyday. I will also incorporate other things that attack HIV (lemons, coconut oil etc) that will go after it in the stomach if indeed that's the home.
Beyond this, let me be your guinea pig. I won't try everything you suggest but I will keep the forum open and report in.
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- thanks! by freelastchance
19 y
3,999 2
Hey, just wanted to say thanks so much for taking the time to report what you are doing and how it's working!
GB
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- Are you accepting questions? by Ev
19 y
4,025 3
I must say - thank you for opening up your life and giving testimony of the protocol you are using!
I do have a question totally out of curiosity:
What is your diet like? Are you taking any meds?
Are there any other lifestyle issues that could affect your counts?
I like you believe that HIV and AIDS exists - it isn't a figmint of anyone's imagination. What I don't believe is that modern/mainstream medicine is the solution. I believe it causes so many more problems. Just like in the cancer patient.
Blessings to you, and I hope you will find what works to heal and sustain your health!
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- Re: Are you accepting questions? by #30988
19 y
4,210 4
Questions are welcome. My diet is organic fruits, veggies and meats. It's fairly clean but I'm no fanatic. I'll eat a burger, fries etc on occasion. I may even have a scoop of black raspberry choc. chip if the mood hits me. Meats are mostly poultry but I love an occasional steak. I juice almost every day in the morning. I am not on any meds. I take some supplements but I'm not a supplement overuser. I take B2, NAC, Selenium, BetaGlucans and that's about it. I dump a spoonful of C in my juice occasionally but not all the time.
I also exercise but not fanatically. I like to bike and run as well as engage in competitive sports (basketball, raquetball mostly). I have my bouts with the gym but currently I'm taking time off from the gym.
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- Pure Gatekeepers by -2tuff-
19 y
3,945 5
It is people like yourselves who act as gatekeepers for the Medical Mafia by believeing and therefore promoting this fraud of HIV. Your only making this life worse for not only yourselves but innocent victims of the future. People claim to hate the Medical establishment and go alternative yet promote fraudulent Medical claims and labelling. As the great Dr.Batmanghelidj has proved the majority of what we now call Chronic Disease could have been prevented just by simple WATER and even when you have these problems already the water can most times solve the problem. We have 100's of different types of Arthritis, how CONVENIANT and as we see many in the alternative world still promote and therefore gatekeeperism these falsities.
Quite frankly, you all make me sick because your building a deadly world for future generations who will eventually not see the real alternatives because of control far beyond whats going on now. All people in the know and truthsaying will be dead and the information lost.
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- Re: Pure Gatekeepers by Fenix
17 y
4,169 6
| 2tuff you are seriously such a myopic dipshit. Do you troll around searching curezone for "aids is real" or something just so you can drop an article to feel significant? You always have some stupid article to post that some random person wrote that typically cannot be verified. This guy is trying his best to figure the truth out actively through real world experimentation, he should be commended for being on this side (the alternative research side). You have clearly made your mind up about how HIV/AIDS works (minus much real tested scientific proof I imagine). Do you have HIV and you are freaking out? Maybe related dementia? Will your head explode when you find out your beliefs are wrong in part or entirety? Whether HIV exists or not isn't the question, it never has been. Everyone knows the tests are bunk and non-specific, but they are likely being triggered by abnormality, regardless of the cause. The question is, what is making people sick and how do we make them well again without killing them in the process. I have read the crap you post everywhere and your inability to look at anything other than what you want to see and or accept anything contrary smacks of the same medical mafia mentality %¤#&!§-that you love to label people with. Calling this guy a medical mafia gate keeper is beyond laughable, its sick and pathetic. Your aggressive posture with people who are trying to solve their problems is wrong, pure and simple. The fact that he is here writing about his experience for others to learn from and generating public debate and insight is valuable. I may be falling into my own pitfall here by using aggression but sometimes people like you (and the people you supposedly hate) just don't understand anything but that. So, I hate to be the one guy on curezone who uses curse words, but let me be the first to say f*** you. Go do something constructive you troll.
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- Re: Pure Gatekeepers by Fenix
17 y
4,049 7
| I think I should add. I was viewing some more of your posts just to see how you bash everyone (and you do often) and sadly you do like to spam some articles that is have merit occasionally. Maybe you should try to rethink your approach to dealing with people. I hate the medical establishment too and I see it for what it is, clearly you understand this and feel the same way but the way you present it is totally counter progress. L8r
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- Re: Supplements by #25958
16 y
4,111 9
| Excuse me for injecting this statement, but in one of Dr. Becks underground videos, he was firm not to include vitamins or other supplements in the diet while following his protocol.
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- Re: Supplements by #30988
15 y
4,373 10
he did say that. I'm just bull-headed about trying it "my way". Now for the most part I think most supplements are just crap in a pill form. With rare exception, supplements off the shelf haven't done much for me.
One exception though: Reliv supplements work. They are extremely expensive but they work.
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- Re: Are you accepting questions? by animatedstar
16 y
4,348 11
| I hear raw garlic with fresh squeeze lemons is good also. have you tried that? I am doing that currently and i must say it has increased my energy level.
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- Re: Are you accepting questions? by #30988
15 y
4,693 12
Actually there is a great remedy that says to eat a whole clove of garlic, wash it down with the juice of a lemon (diluted if you have to) and chase it with a teaspoon of honey.
works like a charm.
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- fighting HIV by ParaZapper
19 y
4,086 13
>- zapped on the wrists two hours per day
This may seem like a lot of zapping, but as I understand the dynamics of HIV and AIDS, it is far from sufficient. I do not have the actual data in front of me right now, but from what I remember, the body can produce abour 200 million HIV viral particles a day and that the release is fairly constant around the clock.
If you zap for 2 hours straight, you are killing 1/12 th of these viral particles therefore leaving 11/12ths or 183 million viral particles to re-infect your body. This also assumes that all viral particles are going to travel through your arms during this 2 hour period. I believe that only 50 to 70 percent of these viri actually make it through the arm.
For this reason, I believe that the Beck electrifier is not as effective as it should be. Also, a lot of the viri are in the lymph system which is not as well circulated.
In order to effectively eliminate the HIV, it is necessary to zap around the clock and to zap the entire body, not just the arms. Note that HIV is not killed inside of your cells as it has become a part of the infected cell. Some of these cells can live for months.
The use of CS is very beneficial provided that the CS is of sufficient quality. There are 2 studies that are producing excellent results with CS but for some reason, it does not appear to work with every one.
From a lack of recent posts, I assume that your condition has not improved recently and that you may be looking for a better alternative. If you are interested in trying a new product, send an e-mail. Otherwise, keep us posted on how you are doing.
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- Re: fighting HIV by #30988
19 y
4,158 14
In response to your message:
I have increased the zapping duration to 2-6 hours and sometimes longer every day. I sleep with the zapper on. I've gone through a lot more batteries in the process!
Beck did say that in the two hour cycle ALL of the blood flows through the arm. I don't know frankly. I have considered pulsing on the ankles pulse points).
As I understand it, the purpose of pulsing is to move the virus from the lymph system to the blood stream where you can kill it. It is not necessarily to kill the virus in the lymph system (addressing your concern about virus in the lymph system). According to Beck's own research, just zapping alone wasn't enough to kill the virus (which you corroborate) but you don't seem to acknowledge the other parts of the protocol.
I use SOTA Instruments for all parts of the protocol and I think many others can speak to the quality of their products. They seem top notch and consistent with the Beck studies and requirements.
You and others have suggested longer zapping periods and I will try this. I will work into my routine one weekend a month where I wear the zapper the entire time. Before I do that I need to go get tested (to see if there is a before and after affect).
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- Re: fighting HIV by vtool
19 y
4,005 15
I have been on the Beck protocols every day, 2 hours a day, doing the full protocol, in addition to using the consultation, APBA transmission, and frequencies in the Fscan per Dr. Jeffery Sutherland http://www.frequencyresearch.org , and TB viral frequencies from Dr. Richard Loyd. I specifically use the Fscan electrodes on the feet for two hours at 1552 & 2565 (one hour each frequency). I use SOTA instruments blood electrifier or "Silver Pulser" on the ankle pulse points (arteries). We make HIGH quality POWERFUL colloidal silver at WE make at home, boiling the water surrounding the jar, and using the Stenulson method http://stenulson.net/althealth/cswzlts.htm This method produces a very powerful amber colored collodial silver for the cost of electricity (3 nine volt batteries in the box we use, we do NOT use the Silver Pulser for this, though we could, we use a homemade C.S. generator <3 9 volt battery conversion>). We use the WZ04 for producing ozonated water. I use the MPG5 pulsing the lymph tissues DURING the zapping (Fscan) & blood electrification for 40-60 minutes, moving the MPG5 negative side of the wand each step of the way over a path of the lymph system (and brain, kidneys, spleen, and liver) to use this U.S. Patented microbe, parasite, virus, and bacteria neutralizer to get the critters hiding or latent (even dormant) into these hard to get areas... Remember the lymph fluids are TWICE the volume of BLOOD in the body... so this MUST BE "PULSED" or "neutralized". For borna virus, I have to keep a keen awareness for the unique symptomology, and treat quickly with Dr. Sutherland's frequencies and his APBA transmission... I haven't worked with the blood electrifier for this application yet specifically (borna virus is like the cold virus in that it can set in quickly, and take hold quickly, depending on the individual reaction or response to it).
Yes, and if your partner (sexual contact) is not treating his/herself, and you are having intimate relations with them, YOU will reinfect yourself with whatever they are carrying, latent viruses, etc. POSSIBLY each time you have this "contact" with them. SO, as Dr. Clark well points out, if THEY are not treating themselves to, then you are WASTING your precious time toward a goal of 'total elimination' or spontaneous remission. I have photos of some of what we are doing. For instructional purposes to instruct you on the research I am doing on SELF, and my fiance' on HERSELF, I will post them to the Curezone Image file/folder :)
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- Re: fighting HIV by #30988
19 y
3,968 16
Thanks. I love the information and as your message so succinctly puts it...it's not necessarily a simple process. It's too bad that this information is so hard to come by inside the medical community where the experiments could be controlled and optimized.
I am thinking about buying an FScan unit but I'm finding that most people are not using the FScan units as a Rife unit(ie using a plasma tube). It seems to me if you zap using FSCAN frequencies that the effect is still only local to the zapping. With this cold, I discovered just how local it is. As I understand it, the plasma tube had a penetrating effect that is better and more comprehensive treatment then I believe a crane type approach to be. Any thoughts?
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- Re: fighting HIV by vtool
19 y
3,843 17
| I am pondering the same thing, as an Fscan owner, and obvious recent indications from my docs, I begin to suspect that perhaps other devices, as you refer to, or methods of TREATMENT, such as radiant plasma, or stronger output devices may be the way to go. The Fscan is great for less serious conditions, and for scanning some 90% of what's out there, but falls short in these other areas perhaps, and I OWN and USE one :) Great posts!
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- FREE BECK LECTURE MOVIE - Re: fighting HIV by vtool
19 y
4,166 18
THE FREE FAMOUS BECK LECTURE AT VENTURA COLLEGE ON CURING AIDS & some CANCERs:
http://www.qabbalisticangels.com/ebay.html
We make our own colloidal silver generator for $19 in Radio Shack parts - my dad made it from plans recieved from his orthodontist. If I can find them, or get him to locate them, perhaps we can post a link to that link where you saw the movie. Remember, if you can find the plans, anyone skilled in basic electronics should be able to MAKE these devices for you. With that said, you might also see (I haven't look for a while) at http://www.toolsforhealing.com for either devices, or if they have plans listed. Other sources for the devices are http://www.toolsforwellness.com
http://www.perutechnologies.com/
http://stenulson.net/althealth/cswzlts.htm
http://www.livingfromvision.com/shop/health.htm
STRONGLY RECOMMENDED IS THE AUDIO LECTURES ON THE BT6 - http://www.livingfromvision.com/news.htm
http://www.krchealth.com/blood_cleaner.htm
http://www.magpulser.com/
http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/intro.htm
http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/details.htm
Remember, one has to implement the FULL protocol to do the job.
That means doing the magnetic pulsing over the lymph paths, spleen, kidney, liver,
mabye your brain, etc.
It's also VERY IMPORTANT to get the blood electrification electrodes RIGHT ON the arteries - http://www.perutechnologies.com/beckarchive.html
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Paper outlining a method of neutralising the HIV virus using electrical currents by Dr. William D Lyman et al.
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- Re: fighting HIV by Shapokolay
10 y
1,971 20
I am new to F-scan I am trying to decided to get the The TrueRife F-117 frequency generator it too has for an extra cost of $600 a device he calls "GSR-II Scanner. He told me it was constructed using the schematics of the polygraph machine. It took them a couple of years to get the finish product. You can scan for up to one hour which to me is quite long and he suggest playing one of their Rife Scapes music to keep your mind and body calmed down while being scanned and once a hit is heard it sounds like chimes then one has to re-set the baseline until the sound shuts off and only the red light is on.
The difference with the F-scan from what I read when you get a hit and later look at the frequency it will give you one decisive issue per frequency. The TrueRife scanner will give you the frequency number but it maybe like this:
4005.009 Liver fluke, cancer, cancer fluke ect. But the TrueRife creates from the scanning process the corrective frequencies right away even though you didn't know which single frequency was causing the issue all you have to do is send those new corrective issues back through your body with the plasma bulbs. I am thinking of purchasing a used F-scan2 for around $2000 since the new F-Scan3 is being sold for $4500.00 at braintuner.com.
I would like to have a back up tool for specifics.
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