Why do even Naturopaths not support ... 
jaymovez
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It was hard enough as it is with all the skeptics and trying to understand why it works.
But recently I've been contacting and seeing some Naturopathic doctors, and none I have met support liver flushing. Many say it's "dangerous", which I find quite stupid to say when all you're consuming is oil. Obviously they think it's some kind of dangerous procedure in a lab or something.
The naturopath I have chosen to see doesn't support it, yet doesn't mind me doing it, as she doesn't think it will harm me.
I wonder why they don't understand the theory behind it, as Dr. Schulze says it is written in their own medical books that when consuming fat, the liver and gallbladder will purge it's contents. It's almost basic, but why is it so underground?
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This is a reply to # 1,435,957May be your naturopath doesn’t want to be responsible?
What the skeptics are saying about Liver-Flush is half the truth. You know what they said that if it's half true then it’s not the truth at all.
When you ingest the oil the Brain thinks “Poison”, and that is why the Liver started to purge madly and boom!! All the junk and Gallstones will be expelled.
Especially if some one has ailing health, before thinking Liver-Flush one need to take care of the colon, parasite and kidney etc. cleanses which helps the pH balance. Otherwise Liver-Flush is a killer, I mean hard on the body.
I remember the first LF I did was so hard on me I completely stop doing. Then I did it by the book. Guess what? Now it’s cakewalk and I am ripping the benefits.
Do not stop to LF, Just my two cents.
Happy Flushing
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This is a reply to # 1,435,957Let's say, a naturopathic doctor, ND tells his patient J.D. to do a liver fush.
And, J.D., following his doctor recommendation, attempts a liver flush.
And, the worst thing happens.
There are 3 bad things that can go wrong if J.D. has gallstones, and if those Gallstones are of a size similar to the size of his bile ducts:
1. A gallstone may stuck inside cystic duct, causing a lot of pain, and J.D. may opt for emergency surgery.
2. A gallstone may exit through the cystic duct, but stuck inside the common bile duct, causing acute pancreatitis, and severe symptoms.
Acute pancreatitis must be treated with Water Fast (no food is allowed, until stone passes out by itself or a medical procedure may be needed.)
3. An exteremely special, calcified gallstone, with sharp and dangerous edges, my pass through the ducts into intestines, and may cause injury, bleeding, and in a worst case a need for medical help. ( Unlikely but even the most unlikely events may occure sometimes. )
1 or 2 or 3 ... in each one of those cases J.D. may consider the naturopathic doctor responsible, and may bring him to court, asking for $$$$$$.
Why would a naturopathic doctor risk $$$$$$ for making nothing, when he can make $$$$ selling vitamins, herbs, etc?
Do you think that naturopathic doctors are stupid?
What is a logic in risking $$$$$$, when a profit is $0 ?
Read more about risks associated with Gallstones on this page:
//www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/gallstones_and_liver_flush.asp
From that page:
How many people with symptomatic Gallstones got worse after liver flushing?
4 of 131 = 3% Source: //www.curezone.org/faq/p/r3.asp?a=28,571,2826&s=21&u=2&o=11139&u2=5&o2=10684...
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How many people with symptomatic gallstones got no improvement after liver flushing?
6 of 104 = 6% Source: //www.curezone.org/faq/p/r3.asp?a=28,571,2826&s=21&u=2&o=11139&u2=9&o2=10251...
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How many people with symptomatic gallstones experienced SERIOUS case of acute pancreatitis after liver flushing?
1 of 141 = 1% Source: //www.curezone.org/faq/p/r3.asp?a=28,571,2826&s=21&u=2&o=11139&u2=4&o2=9640&...
But, that person have not selected that he/she regretted liver flushing!
....
How many people with symptomatic gallstones experienced MILD case of acute pancreatitis after liver flushing?
5 of 147 = 3% Source: //www.curezone.org/faq/p/r3.asp?a=28,571,2826&s=21&u=2&o=11139&u2=3&o2=9753&...
One of them regretted liver flushing!
....
How many people with symptomatic gallstones experienced STRONG gallbladder attack during a liver flush?
1 of 141 = 1% Source: //www.curezone.org/faq/p/r3.asp?a=28,571,2826&s=21&u=2&o=11139&u2=4&o2=9366&...
But, that person have not selected that he/she regretted liver flushing!
....
How many people with symptomatic gallstones experienced MEDIUM strong gallbladder attack during a liver flush?
18 of 147 = 12% Source: //www.curezone.org/faq/p/r3.asp?a=28,571,2826&s=21&u=2&o=11139&u2=3&o2=9364&...
One of them regretted liver flushing!
....
How many people with symptomatic gallstones experienced MILD gallbladder attack during a liver flush?
11 of 147 = 7% Source: //www.curezone.org/faq/p/r3.asp?a=28,571,2826&s=21&u=2&o=11139&u2=3&o2=9365&...
One of them regretted liver flushing!
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This is a reply to # 1,436,213Yup, there are risks just like any procedure. How many nightmare stories have we seen on this message board? When one takes a few days to actually read what people go through in regards to the liver flush, one quickly realizes that the Liver Flush is absolutely working but it has it's consequences if done incorrectly or if complications arise. Frankly speaking though, 99% of those complications are worsened by people's panicky inexperienced fearful states. I've come so close to catastrophe so many times because of being panicky and fearful, when I go at this stuff with no fear complications are kind of a walk in the park. Just got to know how to counter them. Now complications of gallbladder surgery, like damaging the biliary ducts with a sharp blade or some thing along those lines, a little less forgiving. It all depends though, this stuff is NOT what I would call safe. Doesn't change the fact that I do it! ^_^Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,435,957Many ND'S do reccommend liver flushes. Dave Frahm ND is one of the ones that do and has it in a published book. It's a different protocol but there are plenty that do. Dave Frahm has several people, mostly very sick, attend his 8 day lodge sessions several times a year and they all do liver flushes.
You can look him up on the internet - http://www.healthquarters.org
- he has a tremendous amount of information at the web site in the archives of newsletters and he writes in an easy to understand language. It's free.
From Dave Frahm's book:
Re: Why Liver Flush w/Directions at Liver Flush Support Forum
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=182920
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This is a reply to # 1,436,222I agree to do it in the proper order. I just did a Liver Flush & didn't do the parasite cleanse or the other preparations...
About 10 days after the first flush, I had excruciating back pain for about a week or so. I had to do another flush to make it stop. It was scary. I really didn't know why I was in so much pain. I decided not to go to an MD since they probably would have no idea what was going on. I didn't want them to insist that I go to the hospital.
Turns out, that after 3 flushes I found out that I had liver flukes... The flukes or stones probably were moving around & clogged one of my bile ducts. It was pretty awful!
So now, I'm going to go back & do it in order... I'm starting with the bowel cleanse, then I may do another parasite cleanse, kidneys & maybe a liver flush.
I think my liver is in pretty bad shape so I don't want to over do it. I'm not sure it's necessary to be so extreme on yourself. It's satisfying to see all the toxins & stones come out but I'm not sure if it's necessary to do it that way. Especially, if you already have other health problems. Maybe if you are fairly healthy - it's not as harsh on you.
May be better to take herbs to break up the stones so your body can remove them over time...? I'm not sure. I just know that my body couldn't take another Liver Flush right now.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,437,562Dear mostlysunny
Just throwing my two cents here!
Keep on keeping on!
Learn to listen to your inner voice. When it's time to stop/start you will know if you pay attaintion to your inner voice.
Patience is the name of the game. As we did not get in this mess we are in over night we can’t just walk out of it over night.
The reason alternative health methods will take time is because they work naturally with the body until all cells regenerates.
Also remember less is more. You can’t hurry your body to cleanse faster. If you give your best, your body has all the tools within to heal and repair itself. “The cure started at your body’s entry port, your mouth.”
Specially, it's wise to know food combination methods. It's so crucial.
Best wishes,
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This is a reply to # 1,440,397Thanks Watch!
I've been feeling really crappy since I started getting serious about all of this cleansing.
I've been ill for 13 years. Who knows what it actually is? I've had "experts" say a bunch of different things... Fibromyalgia, Lyme... I really don't know. I do know that something is really happening with this cleansing. I feel sick as a dog but it's somehow different.
I just didn't think I was all that toxic. I eat pretty good & I have been trying to heal myself with herbs. I'm not a saint but I wasn't living on red licorice & cigarettes either. When I started seeing the parasites... I knew I had to do some serious cleansing.
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