Beck Protocol for HIV didn't work fo... 
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I went off of my meds six weeks ago. I felt that I was strong enough to take a break and commit to the Beck Protocol since I had perfect blood panels. Undetectable and CD-4 (T cells) at 930. I take Truvada and Isentress. The only part of the protocol I didn't do was the ozone water.
I received my new numbers this morning :
CD-4 down to 403
% CD-4 Pos. Lymph + 13.9 - should be 30.8 - 58.5
Platelets - 138 - should be 140-415
Neutrophils = 23 - should be 40-74
Lymphs = 62 - should be 14-46
Monocytes = 14 - should be 4-13
Neutrophils (Absolute) = 1.1 - should be 1.8-7.8
My experience:
After 3 weeks on the protocol I started feeling very tired and found a painful swollen lymph node under my right arm. I continued to use the magnetic pulser under my arm, gut and other lymph locations. The swollen lymph abated but I found another under my left ear. I attributed this to virus die off and continued the protocol. I now realize that it was a reaction to an onslaught of HIV virus which was taxing my lymph system. The exhaustion I felt was overwhelming. I felt hot much of the time and I was irritable. The same symptoms that led me to medication. But I continued for three more weeks.
I had my blood drawn on Tuesday and went back on meds that night. It is now Thursday and I already feel better.
My conclusion:
I was hopeful and committed to the Beck Protocol but it proved ineffective for me. After more research I found that the original study was done in vitro (in glass), not in vivo (in living tissue). Many new medical break-throughs work perfectly in a test tube but fail in a body. I don't believe that the external blood electrification is strong enough to penetrate the skin. The patented device goes inside of the body which showed the best results. I think that Mr. Beck used the Einstein College results and patent to extrapolate some very simplistic conclusions. Also, the original studies only used blood electrification in order to get the results. That method alone should be enough. But the Beck Protocol morphed into needing magnetic pulsing, Colloidal Silver and ozone water. None of which were in the original studies. The other additional methods should be considered adjuncts to the blood treatment, not essential. Otherwise, that brings into question the real effectiveness of external blood electrification.
As much as I hate to admit it, and as much as I hate being beholden to greedy pharmaceutical companies for my life, I must say that the over priced drugs keep me alive and healthy. But I am still hopeful. I know that there must be other ways to cure disease. Unfortunately, the Beck Protocol isn't one of them, in my particular case at least.
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- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... sunmoonstars
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,101,813Hi there, I am sorry to hear it did not work well for you. I do not have HIV but I do have herpes and used Beck for that. It worked really well. It did not cure it but after 4 months my outbreaks had and have gone down significantly. I am going to do protocol again as I feel my body is getting a bit worse again in dealing with it. It did help a ton and I felt really good while doing it.
I do think the oxygen water is a huge part of it, because it helps flush all the crap so to speak out of your body. I do think oxygen helps kill virus' too.
That said for me it also proved not to be a cure. I think maybe doing it longer would help in my case.
All that said you have to listen to your body. I think the same thing that will work for one person with a disease will do nothing for the next. For instance many people who have what I do insist lysine works wonders. It does nothing for me.
Lastly and the main reason I am replying is this might be a good book for you. The author has AIDs, I think I read somewhere since the 80's and has found fermenting to be a big part of being healthy for him. I know someone with separate health issues then either of us, but chronic condition and it has helped that person dramatically.
I hope you can find what works right for you. Other then that I am a huge fan of olive leaf extract and laurilcidin. http://www.aviva.ca/article.asp?articleid=13
for me it has worked as well as my prescription used to.
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- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... sunmoonstars
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This is a reply to # 2,101,871http://www.wildfermentation.com/whats-so-wild-about-fermentation/
Here is the book. Wild Fermentation.- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... jaguar57
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This is a reply to # 2,101,873If you used both electrodes on one wrist then of course you wouldn't of gotten good results. Beck used ankle-to-ankle on the AIDS patients he helped. With both on one wrist the electrical current just shorts right across the 1.3" of tissue between the electrodes. Send me a message and I can point you to a lot more info on this subject.
- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... jaguar57
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- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... sunmoonstars
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- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... kscmac
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- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... johny apple bomb
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This is a reply to # 2,101,968without ozone water you will eventually have a Herx reaction. Flu like symptoms etc etc. That's likely why you're all swollen up. Before the ozone water AIDS patients would get very sick.
Also works best with at least 8 ounces per day of EIS silver.
Beck says in his videos that the wrists have more circulation and are better than the feet area. when hooked up to the wrists you are free to go about your business.
- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... johny apple bomb
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- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... aifam55
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This is a reply to # 2,101,813See my posts. Beck was full of it. I think I tested his claims far beyond anyone else. His protocol does not work on hiv, other than symptoms.
- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... Steve888
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This is a reply to # 2,101,813Seemed to help these folks:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol
- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... aifam55
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- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... aifam55
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- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... aifam55
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This is a reply to # 2,101,813I was listening to one of Becks speeches from 1999 tonight.
A few things he said.
1) Royal Rife never cured anyone except when he accidentally touched them with the electrical current. And that accounted for only a few percent of the cases.
2) Beck said he had to work with the CIA to cure some CIA agents and the only thing that would was his protocol.
3) He said (back in 1999) that Saddam Hussein had female agents smuggling in germ warfare into the U.S. in their orifices since that was a warm area and when they got in the US they planned to kill millions in the USA with biological warfare, so you definitely needed his zapper.
What I think is that Beck was working with CIA. First off Rife did cure most of his patients. Beck knew Rife tech and also Beck was able to put together Georges Lakhovsky's multi-wave frequency generator way back in 1963 in just a few hours when others failed. Beck's story about Saddam Hussein was ludicrous. I think Beck did cure people of hiv but it was not with that zapper he shows. If you want people not to look at the real truth, you give them a part truth so they bite. Lakhovsky's machine, in my opinion, was the best. It concentrated on strengthening the body itself. His machine had a 98% cure rate with terminal cases. Lakhovsky was killed (murdered) in 1942 when he was hit by a limousine. Right after his death, the "miracle" machine by Lakhovsky was taken out of the NYC hospital. Lakhovsky did most of his work in Europe and they used some of his machines for the next 15 years. Three of the machines recently turned up in Italy.
Bob Beck (Robert C. Beck), in 1963, got a hold of a Lakhovsky machine and he was smart enough to get to up and running in a few hours where others failed. Beck knew far better cures DECADES before he made that simple square wave zapper. That's a fact and you can take it to the bank. There is a cure for hiv someplace. Also hiv is a depopulation plan. It was introduced initially via vaccines.
Here's a couple super cheap things you can do against hiv. Keep up the zapping anyway as it clobbers many other microbes. Take 800 mcg to 1,000 mcg Selenium a day. No more than that. Selenium is like birth control for Hiv. Take the protein NAC for T-cells and also IP-6 Inositol for T-cells.
What I researched about zapping with a simple square wave is: supposedly 1.2 hertz kills hiv in the blood. 3554 sq wave freq supposedly is harmful to hiv and 714 freq is harmful to hiv in the T-cells. That could be b.s. but that is the best info I have right now on electrifying the blood. - Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... aifam55
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This is a reply to # 2,101,813Btw, I finding out some other things with alt measure against hiv. Apple cider vinegar can work but it needs to be quite a bit. Maybe like 4 ounces a day or more. Put the apple cider vinegar in a blender with pure water, cinnamon and honey and then it tastes fine. If you take a little bit of ACV, it does not work. Also garlic works good against hiv. Use the garlic about 12 hours away from the zapping. Lots of garlic is a very powerful anti-viral, especially in the gut where hiv really resides. Garlic was used as a medicine for 1,000's of years in ancient Rome and is still heavily consumed in Italy. I know what Beck said. Really suspecting him greatly now. I found the zapping does not work on hiv. It works on many other things but not hiv.
- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... jaguar57
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This is a reply to # 2,102,266I'd like to hear Becks speech you are referring to. Can you point me to it?
I believe blood electrification greatly slows down the progress of HIV but doesn't stop it. The problem is not HIV itself but the GP120 protein that it carries. That protein attaches to CD4 cells which causes the body to destroy them in an auto-immune response. If you can't get rid of HIV completely then you need to do something about GP120. There is a medicine in development to do just that. This website has the info: http://www.scarf.org/drug/summary.html
- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... aifam55
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This is a reply to # 2,102,393Yes, but without Hiv there is no GP120. Gp120 is part of Hiv outer coating.
Here are the links to Beck's speech Jan 24, 1999.
He did state he was curing CIA of aids in secret with the government and that his protocol he outlined was the only thing that could do it.
Btw, there may be a may to reactivate T-cells with electricity thus making hiv harmless. Lakhovsky revitalized cells with frequencies. That is another approach.
Bob Beck Jan 24, 1999
The Bob Beck Protocol Part 1 of 11 Aids HIV Cure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHfBPcdPQWI
At 3 mins 30 sec. They beat up Bob Beck after he comes out of his NYC hotel and someone films it from across the street with a telephoto lenses. Was that actually done to convince you of something? That Beck is a persecuted crusader?
At 6 mins 20 sec he talks about the suppressed cure for all diseases found by Lyman and Kaali in 1991 in The Albert Einstein College of Medicine in NYC, yet Bob Beck knew and fully about the Georges Lakhovsky machine in 1963 and was fully capable of getting that machine running and found it was o hoax. Lakhovsky’s machine had a 98% cure rate in terminal patients ad could actually reverse age people by restoring cell vitality. Did Bob Beck grow his hair back with a magnetic pulser, as he claimed or did he use Lakhovsky’s machine. Ever hear of anyone getting hair restoration results like Bob Beck with a magnetic pulser? I certainly have not.
The Bob Beck Protocol Part 5 of 11 Aids HIV Cure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlxdDpbER4c
At 20 seconds he says Dr. Royal Rife did not cure anything unless the patient actually contacted the electrical current. Beck says Rife machines don’t work.
The Bob Beck Protocol Part 9 of 11 Aids HIV Cure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2WGO41rbXw
At 5 mins and 46 secs he says he has to go cure some people in the CIA who contracted Aids and the methods he outlined are the only cure. He can’t say where he was going to do this. He also says the government is curing CIA agents with aids in secret and the cure Bob Beck outlined is the only thing that works.
The Bob Beck Protocol Part 10 of 11 Aids HIV Cure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px77FxowVY4
At 5 mins and 45 secs he talks about women from Iraq and Iran smuggling into the USA in their body cavities biological germ warfare microbes to kill off millions in the USA. He says this after a talking about how WWIII will mainly be waged with biological weapons because they don’t want to destroy the real estate.
- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... blackchisel97
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This is a reply to # 2,102,418We currently work on Multi Wave Oscillator which is based on George Lakhovsky and Tesla's ideas. It is too early to draw more conclusions at this time except that this "mystical" device indeed works and quite amazing energizing effect can be felt. We just launched our new forum couple days ago - nvtronics.org and invite anyone looking to build their own devices or learn more about alternative healing technologies to visit. This is not commercial website but rather an independent research and development.
Regards
V - Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... Iain321
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This is a reply to # 2,102,418dude Hulda Clark found that even the viruses have viruses and that any positive offset frequency (square wave)will kill them. 7 minuets or variable frequency followed by a 20 minuet brake and repeat twice, best machine i found so far was the Swing Zapper 2007.
- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... aifam55
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This is a reply to # 2,180,412Yes, so I found out. I'm going for hiv cure for myself. Loads and loads of disinformation out there. Bob Beck was disinfo agent also, although his zapper is useful up to a point. Hulda Clark says to zap at least 6 hours per day at the 100% positive offset at 30,000 hertz for hiv/aids plus take the herbs. I have her HIV/Aids book with her patients blood tests and all.
Hulda Clark was very adamant that the zapper had to be 100% positive offset with no negative at all.
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- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... ren2070
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This is a reply to # 2,101,813Mate your looking at a minimum of 180 hours and that's for herpies three weeks is a joke try three months and get back to us
- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... aifam55
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This is a reply to # 2,184,026You can zap 12 hours a day, drink loads of ozonated water & Colloidal Silver and magnetic pulse for 3 years it still won't work. I did that and even with more than one Beck zapper at a time.
In short "dr" Beck lied regarding what his zapper can do.
- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... aifam55
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- Re: Beck Protocol for HIV didn't wor... aifam55
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This is a reply to # 2,101,813There is only one frequency listed that is HIV specific. It is 3554. And frequency 714 supposedly addresses the infected I-cells. You could try running those frequencies at 100% positive offset. The trouble with the contact method is that the electrical current will miss areas of the body. A quality, and very powerful & stable plasma device might do the job, but it will take repeated treatments because HIV will be in the DNA of the long-term CD4 cells for many years. But this method may work. I will be getting one of these once a certain vendor comes out with his version.
My best result last year was 52 viral load when I used a frequency generator with atripla. The frequency generator broke after 2 weeks & I returned it, but I think it helped a lot. Right now I am very much suspecting the negative spikes on the Beck zapper is actually helping HIV and I will not use it anymore, at all. I have stuff that can put out a whooping 22.3 volts, all 100% positive offset, on any frequency. I also have an accurate and quality parazapper MY zapper on the way with 88 frequencies, all 100% positive offset, that I can use anywhere, anytime. If you start to dig into the natural electrical charge of the body's cells and the opposite charge of pathogens and how that all relates to pH, you start to understand why 100% positive offset is essential.
I take atripla and it does not bother me at all, but I'm looking for backup methods and maybe something to eradicate HIV completely. I think the real powers do have a hidden cure.
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