where do i start? 
sunflower77
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I would like to do a parasite cleanse, liver flush, colon cleanse, & maybe a kidney cleanse, and my question is what order should I do these in?
I'll try to briefly go over my symptoms, I tend to ramble, sorry.. 3 years ago I started having issues with gluten, it started as horrible constipation for about 6 months straight, then I began cutting gluten out and it got better but it took me 2 years to totally cut it out because I was lazy and didn't think it mattered. About 8 months ago it suddenly got a lot worse and if I ate even a cracker it caused me to throw up all day long. So now I am 100% gluten free & it seemed like my stomach issues were gone until about 2 mos. ago when I began bloating. I've tried to eat as healthy as possible on a low budget, I only eat organic & non-gmo the majority of the time, I make smoothies almost every day, I eat a lot of rice/potatoes/beans/garlic/basil/mushrooms/eggs/hemp seeds/pure pineapple juice. Since I was 14 I have had Acne on my forehead & chin (the chinese face map indicates this is related to my intestines & colon), my skin has never gotten better even though I am 27 now. Along with the bloating, I have begun to get headaches every couple of days the past 1-2 mos. and sometimes they get so bad I start to feel nauseous. Not sure if the headaches are nutrition related or due to my back pain which is moderate-severe. 3 months ago I was given strong Antibiotics intended for people with pneumonia, all I had was a bad flu & I didn't need meds at all but I was so out of it that I took the pills for 2 days, I got horribly sick from them, I was dizzy, had a ringing in my ear off & on for weeks, and my stomach felt like a bomb had gone off inside & destroyed everything good. This is when I discovered probiotics & kombucha, which I now drink every day and feel awful without. I have always had major issues with fatigue, depression, anxiety, etc. I was diagnosed with hypothyroid when I was 15 & have been taking meds for 3 yrs now. I was also diagnosed with hypoglycemia when I was 15. I had issues with anorexia when I was 13, and at 14 is when my Acne developed & I was majorly bloated for a whole year, probably due to poor diet(I remember eating bagels every day for breakfast as a teen). I ate really badly my whole life due to poverty, I didn't know what an avocado was until I was 18. I've only been eating somewhat healthy for about 3-4 years and only organic/non-gmo for 6 months. I have very chapped lips on a regular basis as well as somewhat thinning hair that is brittle. My hair is really bumming me out and I don't think it's parasite related but just thought I would throw it in, everyone in my family has thick hair so I don't think it's genetics I believe it's nutrition related somehow. I only got my period once every 3 months until I was 21 yrs old when I started taking birth control, don't think this is related but it's always been a symptom which baffles me. I have had a major addiction to coffee for 10 years which I am currently trying to replace with tea, I'm down to drinking it only 2-3 days a week now. For years I have gone in and out of periods where I feel hungry all the time and can eat constantly through the day and still feel hunger. Some other random issues I've had... I had very bad colic as a baby, tons of ear infections as a kid (like at least 20) which meant I took Antibiotics quite a lot, I still have ear issues and can't put my head underwater or else I'd go deaf because fluid doesn't drain properly in my ears, I have experienced excessive sweating since I was 13 which is probably just inherited from my father, also a lot of dental issues which I have mostly cured with oil pulling, but I had a very bad infection in my wisdom teeth which I didn't know about until I was 25, I then had them removed but I have worried that the infection effected other things.. I have had major horrible insomnia since I was 15, pretty sure it's related to childhood trauma but could be nutrition, and I'm very open to any & all suggestions for natural remedies(I can take endless melatonin & it's no help). A couple months ago my blood test indicated I have slightly high blood pressure & low vitamin D, I also have a low body temperature. I have vertical line indents in my fingernails. I have skimmed this forum & I have seen recommendations for parasites which were unfamiliar to me(msm??), I was told by a friend to buy a supplement so that's what I did(it contains clove, Black-Walnut , & Wormwood ), I haven't started taking it yet though and in fact wanted to start tonight for the full moon but then I wasn't sure if I should clean my liver and colon first or not. I would like to do an enema but it seems complicated, I'm worried I could mess up somehow? Any advice is appreciated, thank you :)
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- Re: where do i start? Cimber38
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This is a reply to # 2,322,547Many of your symptoms can be related to celiac disease or gluten sensitivity. Often people with this develop other allergies to milk, soy, peanuts, yeast etc. You will need to get tested to see what you are sensitive to or do an Elimination Diet and try to narrow it down. the constant inflammation causes the gut to get leaky. Malabsorbtion is also common. Once you eliminate the offenders you can work on healing with amino acid supplements, extra l glutamine and Iodine help to heal intestinal permeability. parasite also may be involved because when immunity is compromised they settle in.
- Re: where do i start? r1deforever
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This is a reply to # 2,322,547If you read back what you have written, what you are looking at is a complete life change. That's what you need.
It's not just about doing this cleanse or that, or which food ... just read your life. Everything needs to be changed to give you a healthy loving life.
Everything everything.
Taking "meds" for years is very bad for your body.
So, where to start. With the cleanses start with the colon, so you can clear the out pipe. If you do a liver cleanse and so pathogens are released they can get stuck in the colon, so clear the colon first. But doing all these cleanses is a long term thing, it's not a one time thing.
And step by step there are things to learn. Yes do an enema. And if it doesn't work, no problem. Just do it again tomorrow. Soon you will "get it". If you want to cleanse you have to learn how to cleanse your pipe, otherwise when you detox your stomach / gallbladder whatever ... all the junk can get stuck in your colon. So learning how to cleanse it is a great start.
As for the food, you say it's organic. But organic what ? Organic doughnuts ?!!!
When you talk of your other issues ... these are not to do with your food, they are to do with your mental health your emotional health and so on. With your whole life.
So, you have to add something to help with all those things. That could mean spending more time with friends or finding friends who are more positive. It could mean going regularly to a dance class.
Personally I think it is very good to do something regularly; yoga perhaps, or a regular church group, or language exchange ... something. To change your life you need help and support.
In terms of your food etc... why don't you just aim to have a perfect diet and perfect health. Just begin tomorrow, and bit by bit change everything. Eat simple clean healthy sun-food.
And step by step change everything.
It's not a question of finding out what is wrong ... many things are obviously wrong.
It's faster to start doing everything right.
And get off the pills as soon as possible. Aim to be super healthy inside and out ... one day. You can do it.
Also in your relationships with people, with family and loved ones. Heal those things. Love them, love yourself more.- Re: where do i start? sunflower77
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This is a reply to # 2,322,651Thank you, I appreciate the response. Unfortunately it's not really possible for me to do much for my emotions or mental health as there are multiple heavy things going on in my life right now. As for the pills, I found out that I had thyroid when I was 15, I took pills for 3 years, then I was traveling and/or homeless for a couple years and I stopped taking them. When I started to get it together when I was 22 I went to multiple different doctors who said my thyroid was low but not low enough that I needed to take meds. After awhile I started getting worried that I would get sick without the meds because my mom has severe thyroid that she can die from if she doesn't take her pills for more than a month. I was tired and depressed all the time (as I've been my whole life), but I was especially like really really tired during this time (probably my diet) so I insisted on taking a low dose. Now it's 3 years later and I've had to up my dose twice and I recently read that once you take the pills you're on them for life because they destabilize your thyroid's ability to work on its own - had I never taken them I could've fixed it myself with Iodine but now I'm stuck. I would love to get off of them but I've read in different places that it's not possible. These are the only meds I take besides a daily vitamin.
My organic/non-gmo diet does not include doughnuts lol I try to stay away from Sugar & processed foods as much as I can. As I said before I eat a lot of rice (wild, jasmine, forbidden), red potatoes (supposed to be good for thyroid, I eat them every other day), beans(the brand simple truth is the only one I've found that is organic non-gmo AND bpa-free lining, only 1.25 a can just fyi), tons of garlic, basil (my best friend's chinese father told me he eats garlic & basil every day & never gets sick), mushrooms, cinnamon, turmeric, pineapple juice, etc I'm very poor so I end up spending a lot on juice & veggies for my smoothies & only have enough to buy rice & beans but I'm ok with that. I've been mostly vegetarian for a couple months now, I don't eat cheese at all but it's been hard to not eat eggs when they're cheap & easy & I feel slightly funny without meat which they help. Sorry for the ramble, basically what I'm saying is I eat as healthy as I can, I'm very sensitive and if I eat a tiny piece of chocolate or anything with Sugar I feel headache-y so I have no choice but to keep it clean.
You suggested colon, then liver, then parasite cleanse. I read somewhere that it's not good to do the liver before the parasite? I'll try to read about that more other places but if you know for sure that one way is better please let me know. I will also look into Colon Cleanses & if you have good advice for that please share. Thank you !
- Re: where do i start? sunflower77
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- Re: where do i start? HotelParasite
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This is a reply to # 2,322,547I have to agree with Cimber38. It sounds like me. Celiac disease. I have known I have it since about 1995. Knew I had a bad reaction to bread since I was about 5 years old. If I am very good about my diet and supplements and exercise I feel great but it takes a lot of effort. The hardest part is NO ONE believes you. When I apologize and say "I'm sorry, I can't eat that." They always roll their eyes. They are so rude. People just don't believe in allergies created by Celiac Disease. I totally get why people with lethal peanut allergy are always dying because someone just didn't believe it.
Celiac disease is common in people of Northern European heritage but all races can have it. I sometimes think there can't be a worse condition to have because you are always sick and no one believes you.
Don't buy gluten free versions of packaged food. It's a scam. Most still have gluten and even worse they are full of chemicals that make the condition worse. Supplements are necessary but you have to be VERY careful as many have maltodextrin in them. Never eat anything with "malt" in the name. You have lots to learn.- Re: where do i start? sunflower77
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This is a reply to # 2,322,686I buy gluten free bread (canyon bakehouse) but that's it, I've cut everything else out completely for 6-8 months now. I still have a little bit of bloating though, that's why I was thinking it could be due to parasites. What type of supplements should be taken for celiac?
- Re: where do i start? MIZMAC
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This is a reply to # 2,322,687Bone broth is a wonderful, healing food. See if you can find some. Some people offer it at farmer's markets and one can sometimes find it in containers at organic food stores. You can make it yourself if you can find grass fed, grass finished bones from beef or lamb. You can also make it with organic chicken or turkey bones.
If you can get the bone broth, do a 2-3 day fast with only bone broth and organic popcorn. The popcorn will give you some fiber and will allow you to chew, which will make the fast tolerable. This will give your gut a chance to calm down. Then add in one new food a day. Start with simple soups of cooked veggies. Keep track of what you eat and watch for reactions. Focus on adding veggies and fish. During this time, take 6 capsules of activated charcoal at night before bed. This will help clear toxins. Keep up the charcoal for about 10-15 days. It will turn your stool black. Do not be concerned.
Keep up the bone broth every day for 21 days as you add in new foods.
Avoid rice, white and red potatoes, tomatoes and all other night shade plants at least until you have finished the 21 days. Rice, potatoes and tomatoes have lectins which can irritate the gut just like gluten, causing leaky gut. I would also avoid all processed foods, (too many ingredients), dairy, supplements, legumes, seeds, nuts and soy until you have a solid base of foods you can tolerate. Keep adding foods at the rate of one per day until you've added them all. Also add spices, oils, at the rate of one per day.
This is a long, slow process but you have had an inflamed gut for a long time and an Elimination Diet is the only way to find your food sensitivities .
Do some research on Hashimoto's hypothyroidism.
Eliminate the birth control pills too. You need to start from as clean a slate as possible.
- Re: where do i start? Positive mind
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This is a reply to # 2,322,873Wow Mizmac, such a great programme. I think i will do the same once done with parasites.
Just a tip for the bone broth: making it in a pressure cooker is easier and faster than slow cooking. I got one which is 8L. It needs to be cooked for 2 hrs on high fire and then for a min of 4 hrs low fire. That saves time. It can also be frozen in portions.- Re: where do i start? MIZMAC
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This is a reply to # 2,322,927Yeah, I found I had to do my program after I got rid of the parasites. They will literally eat holes in your gut and then you get food sensitivities from leaky gut. The bone broth has lots of collagen so my skin is plumping up and looking gorgeous.
- Re: where do i start? MIZMAC
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- Re: where do i start? MIZMAC
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This is a reply to # 2,322,873I forgot something important. You have hair loss and no sheen or shine to your hair. You have to increase the fat in your diet. I would recommend that you try to get at least 50% of your calories in good fats. Avocados, coconut oil, organic grass fed butter, olive oil. Many doctors are now recommending a high fat diet so keep it up.
You also need to supply some trace minerals and you need all of the amino acids. Start adding diatomaceous earth to your diet.FOOD GRADE ONLY. Start with 1/2 tsp mixed in 8 oz of water once a day. Work up to 1 tsp. 3x /day. This has essential trace minerals and is a natural anti-parasitic. Do not be surprised if you start eliminating worms and flukes with it. Just keep it up. It will make your hair beautiful and grow quickly. It will do the same for nails and teeth.
Then add pea protein. It has all of the amino acids. I found that it took away my cravings. My body was finally getting everything it needed.
Finally, add 2 capsules of pumpkin seed oil per day to your diet. This will help your hair regrow but it is a slow process. Expect at least 6 weeks before you see any new growth.
With all of these changes, in 6 months you will be a new person. Just have patience, persistence and gratitude.
One last thing. There is a difference between organic and non-GMO. The non-GMO can still be loaded with pesticides, additives and other crap that you don't want. The organic doesn't have that. Best policy is to buy nothing in a box.- Re: where do i start? sunflower77
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This is a reply to # 2,322,939Thanks y'all for all the responses! I currently use olive oil to cook everything, I put coconut oil in my daily smoothie, and I use organic valley grass fed butter. So I try to eat good fats as much as possible, I'll try to get some avocado in. I also eat pumpkin seeds & sunflower seeds every day (put them in my smoothie).
I ended up starting the parasite cleanse 3 days ago & then read that I can do the Colon Cleanse at the same time. So I'm now taking the parasite cleanse capsules 3x a day and drinking a P&B shake twice a day. I also started drinking 1 tsp. of msm in the morning. So far nothing significant has happened but it's only been 2 full days of doing this.
It might be hard for me to do an Elimination Diet as I don't really have the money or time to focus on that, however I didn't know about lectins & I'm thinking that maybe the rice & potatoes could be to blame for my recent bloating. I'll try to phase those out for awhile & see what happens when I eat them after this cleanse.
Another weird issue I'm having, and I doubt anyone here would have an answer but I'll throw it out anyways.. a month ago I started putting bovine collagen peptides in my smoothies. After about 5-7 days I was majorly bloated and has lost my appetite for days, I had to really search to find these symptoms being related to the collagen as the manufacturer didn't list it in their side effects but other people mentioned it in reviews. I stopped taking it completely after that week, it's now been 3 weeks and I still have not had my period. Really starting to worry me. I'm hoping the Colon Cleanse will get stuff out if that's the issue.- Re: where do i start? sunflower77
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This is a reply to # 2,323,027I don't have a slow cooker or a good pot so I'm unable to make bone broth. It's been on my wish list for awhile but I've yet to come across a good crock pot while thrifting. In the past few months they've started selling packaged bone broth at my health food store (Sprouts), but I feel like buying packaged bone broth is bad somehow? Like it won't be as fresh or effective. Would y'all trust it out of a container or do you think it's always better to homemake it?
- Re: where do i start? monroe444
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This is a reply to # 2,323,028I've made it regularly for years in a large stainless steel pot on my stove. I buy organic chicken soup bones, cover with spring water, add a little apple cider vinegar and simmer for at least 12 hours.
I do this mostly for my dog but I try to drink some too. I give her the meat and the ends of bones that are crushable once it has simmered over 12 hours, as per Mark Sisson (Mark's Daily Apple).
It has become a habit for me to make this - really not hard at all. The more I read about bone broth, the more I believe everyone needs it, even though I don't eat meat (I just can't make myself, even though I have now accepted that it's not healthy to be a vegetarian).
monroe- Re: where do i start? WhoAreYouNormally
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This is a reply to # 2,323,534Is the following true? Maybe...
Ray Peat cautions against cooking bones for too long as they might release too much stored lead. Also, it might be a myth that bones release minerals. Cartilege, on the other hand breaks down more easily and is higher in glycine and makes a better gelatin.
Chicken feet make one of the best gelatins.
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This is a reply to # 2,322,547Hello Sunflower,
I know this is liver/detox forum but might I suggest that you also get your iron levels checked. If you have access to healthcare, consider asking for an iron panel that includes TIBC, % saturation and ferritin. Depending on lab used, your ferritin score should be between 50-70. This is the storage iron.
Many of your symptoms sound like iron defeciency anemia. I have it plus B12, B6 and potassium defeciency due to SIBO.
Just a thought. Take care.- Re: where do i start? #204209
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This is a reply to # 2,334,464Or you can get your iron level tested for free if you donate blood. Just tell them upfront that you would like to donate but you are worried about low iron levels. They prick your finger and tell you if you iron levels are low in a few seconds. Ask for the test before you fill out all of the paperwork.
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- Re: where do i start? Cimber38
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