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I just found this. It's a good overview of bio-oxidative therapies:
Medical Miracle or Health-Care Hoax?
Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in Healing
By Nathaniel Altman
Author of Oxygen Healing Therapies
Although used by an estimated ten million patients in Europe since the early 1960's, the therapeutic use of medical ozone and hydrogen peroxide (technically known as "bio-oxidative therapies") is largely a mystery to North Americans. Hailed as a safe, eff ective and low-cost treatment for a wide spectrum of diseases- including candida, cancer, heart problems and HIV-related infections- in Europe, proponents feel that they can go far in resolving America's health care crisis. However, physicians who have tr ied to utilize these therapies in this country are often harassed by local medical societies and threatened with loss of license. As a result, every year hundreds of patients have been forced to seek out physicians in Germany, Russia and even Cuba where t hese therapies are an accepted part of the medical mainstream.. Others spend tens of thousands of dollars to receive bogus ozone cures from unlicensed practitioners here and abroad who ignore established protocols. Many end their lives in both poverty and despair.
What is the truth behind bio-oxidative therapies? Are they a panacea to our health-care crisis, or are ozone and hydrogen peroxide ineffective and even dangerous to health? And despite decades of clinical success, why are they considered "experimental" an d not approved by the FDA? On the following pages, let's examine some of the major questions about bio-oxidative therapies and their role in human health care picture.
Q: Exactly what are bio-oxidative therapies?
A: Bio-oxidative therapies involve administering small amounts of diluted ozone and hydrogen peroxide into the body for the prevention and treatment of disease. Ozone therapy has been used by licensed physicians in Germany since the early 1960's, while hy drogen peroxide therapy was developed in the United States primarily by Dr. C.H. Farr, nominee for the 1993 Nobel prize in Medicine.
Q: What is the scientific basis for bio-oxidative therapies?
A: The philosophy behind bio-oxidative therapies is a simple one. The use of hydrogen peroxide and ozone in medicine is based on the belief that the accumulation of toxins in the body is normally burnt up by the process of oxidation, a process wherein a s ubstance is changed chemically because of the effect of oxygen on it. Oxidation breaks the toxins down into carbon dioxide and water, and eliminates them from the body. However, if the oxygen system of the body is weak or deficient (whether through lack o f exercise, environmental pollution, poor diet, smoking, or improper breathing), our bodies cannot eliminate them adequately and a toxic reaction can occur. In minor cases, a toxic buildup can lead to fatigue, while a wide range of diseases can result whe n poor oxygenation is chronic.
Q: Are these considered "new" therapies?
A: Although few of us have ever heard of them, bio-oxidative therapies have been around for a long time. They have been used clinically by European physicians for over a century, and were first reported by Dr. T.H. Oliver in the British medical publicatio n The Lancet in 1920.1 Since that time, they have been studied in major medical research centers throughout the world, including Baylor University, Yale University, The University of California (Los Angeles) and Harvard University in the United States, as well as in medical schools and laboratories in Great Britain, Germany, Italy, Russia, Canada, Japan and Cuba. Today, between fifty and one hundred scientific articles are published each month about the chemical and biological effects of ozone and hydroge n peroxide.
Q: How do they work?
A: Bio-oxidative therapies are used to provide the body with active forms of oxygen orally, intravenously or through the skin. Once in the body, the hydrogen peroxide or ozone breaks down into various oxygen subspecies which contact anaerobic viruses and microbes [i.e. viruses and microbes which have the ability to live without air], as well as diseased or deficient tissue cells. It oxidizes these cells while leaving the healthy cells alone. When the body becomes saturated with these special forms of oxyg en, it reaches a state of purity wherein disease microorganisms are killed, while the underlying toxicity is oxidized and eliminated.
According to Frank Shallenberger, M.D., who is best known in the United States for treating AIDS patients with a holistic protocol including ozone, bio-oxidative therapies have affect the human body in the following ways:
They stimulate the production of white blood cells, which are necessary to fight infection.
Ozone and hydrogen peroxide are anti-virucidal.
They increase oxygen and hemoglobin disassociation, thus increasing the delivery of oxygen from the blood to the cells.
Ozone and hydrogen peroxide are anti-neoplastic, which means that they inhibit the growth of new tissues like tumors.
They oxidize and degrade petrochemicals.
They increase red blood cell membrane distensibility, thus enhancing their flexibility and effectiveness.
Bio-oxidative therapies increase the production of interferon and Tumor Necrosis Factor, which the body uses to fight infections and cancers.
They increase the efficiency of the anti-oxidant enzyme system, which scavenges excess free radicals in the body.
They accelerate the citric acid Cycle, which is the main cycle for the liberation of energy from sugars. This then stimulates basic metabolism. It also breaks down proteins, carbohydrates and fats to be used as energy.
Bio-oxidative therapies increase tissue oxygenation, thus bringing about patient improvement.2
Q: What exactly is hydrogen peroxide and how is it used therapeutically?
A: Hydrogen peroxide (H202) is made up of two hydrogen atoms and two oxygen atoms. A powerful oxidizer, hydrogen peroxide kills bacteria, viruses and fungi; most of us have used a 3% solution of hydrogen peroxide externally to disinfect wounds. Higher co ncentrations of hydrogen peroxide are used extensively in the agricultural, food and chemical industries as a disinfectant, water purifier and bleaching agent. It is also a common ingredient in contact lens cleaners, eye drops and mouthwashes.
Hydrogen peroxide is involved in all of life's vital processes, and must be present for the immune system to function properly. The cells in the body that fight infection (known as granulocytes) produce hydrogen peroxide as a first line of defense against invading organisms like parasites, viruses, bacteria and yeast. It is also required for the metabolism of protein, carbo-hydrates, fats, vitamins and minerals. As a hormonal regulator, hydrogen peroxide is necessary for the body's production of estrogen, progesterone and thyroxin; it also helps regulate blood Sugar and the production of energy in cells. Hydrogen peroxide has long been used medically as a disinfectant, antiseptic and oxidizer, but has only recently been found to successfully treat a wide variety of human diseases with a minimum of harmful side effects.
The most common form of hydrogen peroxide therapy used by doctors calls for small amounts of 30% reagent grade hydrogen peroxide added to purified water and administered as an intravenous drip. However, some individuals like to add a cup of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide to a bathtub of warm water; the hydrogen peroxide is absorbed into the body through the skin while the person soaks in the tub. Others drink a glass of water to which several drops of food or reagent grade hydrogen peroxide have been ad ded. Although there have been reports of improved health with this method, physicians like Dr. Farr believe that taking hydrogen peroxide orally can have a corrosive effect on the stomach and small intestine and advise against using it. 3
Q: What about ozone? How is it used medically?
A: Ozone (O3) is an energized form of oxygen with extra electrons. It forms the protective ozone layer around the planet, yet becomes a pollutant when mixed with hydrocarbons (like carbon dioxide) and nitrogen oxide from automobile and factory emissions. Because scientists have focussed on the negative effects of inhaled ozone, the medicinal aspects of the gas when applied intravenously or through the skin have been largely overlooked.
Because ozone was found to be an effective bactericide and fungicide during the mid-1800's, it was first used to purify drinking water in a number of European cities. Today, over 2000 municipalities around the world- including Montreal, Paris, Los Angeles and Moscow- purify their drinking water with ozone. However, ozone was not used medically until 1915, when it was found to be an effective disinfectant of wounds and skin diseases in Germany during the First World War. It was later found that ozone has t he ability to "blast" holes through the membranes of viruses, yeasts, bacteria and abnormal tissue cells and therefore killing them. Ozone was the focus of considerable research in Germany during the 1930's where it was successfully used to treat patients suffering from inflammatory bowel disorders, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease and chronic bacterial diarrhea. The four primary ways to administer medical ozone include:
Autohemotherapy, which involves removing about one half pint of blood from the patient, adding ozone and oxygen to the blood, and infusing the blood back to the patient.
Rectal insufflation, in which ozone and oxygen is administered as a rectal enema. The ozone/oxygen mixture is then absorbed through the large intestine.
Ozone "bagging", which involves having an airtight bag placed around the area to be treated. A mixture of ozone and oxygen is pumped into the bag and absorbed through the skin.
Ozone is also used externally in the form of ozonated olive or sunflower oil.
Q; What types of diseases can be treated with ozone and hydrogen peroxide?
A: Bio-oxidative therapies offer a tremendous range of medical application. According to the International Bio-Oxidative Medical Foundation (IBOMF), an Oklahoma-based organization devoted to research and education about these therapies, the following cond itions or diseases have been treated with ozone and hydrogen peroxide with varying degrees of success:
Heart and Blood Vessel Diseases
Peripheral vascular disease (poor circulation)
Cerebral vascular disease (stroke and memory loss)
Cardiovascular disease (heart disease)
Coronary spasm (angina)
Cardioconversion (heart stopped)
Cardiac arrhythmias (irregular heartbeat)
Gangrene (of fingers and toes)
Raynaud's disease ("white finger")
Temporal arteritis (inflammation of the temporal artery)
Vascular and cluster headaches
Pulmonary Diseases
Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
Emphysema
Asthma
Bronchiectasis (dilatation of bronchus or bronchi)
Pneumocystis carinii (PCP or AIDS-related pneumonia)
Chronic bronchitis
Infectious Diseases
Influenza
Herpes zoster (shingles)
Herpes simplex (fever blister)
Systemic chronic candidiasis (candida)
Epstein-Barr virus (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome)
HIV-related infections
Acute and chronic viral infections
Chronic unresponsive bacterial infections
Parasitic infections
Immune Disorders
Multiple sclerosis
Rheumatoid Arthritis
Diabetes mellitus Type II
Hypersensitive reactions (environmental and universal reactors)
Other Diseases
Parkinson's Disease
Alzheimer's Disease
Migraine headaches
Chronic pain syndromes (due to multiple causes)
Pain of metastatic carcinoma
Cancers of the blood and lymph nodes 4
Q: Is it true that ozone cures AIDS?
A: There is growing evidence that ozone (as well as hydrogen peroxide, since ozone becomes transformed into hydrogen peroxide in the body) can destroy lipid-enveloped viruses both outside and within the body, including those related to hepatitis, Epstein -Barr, cancer, herpes, cytomegalovirus and HIV. The results of a study coordinated by the Canadian Armed Forces and published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal showed that ozone kills HIV, the hepatitis and herpes viruses, and other harmful agen ts in the blood used for transfusion. The author of the article added, "The systemic use of ozone in the treatment of AIDS could not only reduce the virus load, but also possibly revitalize the immune system." 5 Although a related study on AIDS patients p roved inconclusive, Cmdr. Michael Shannon, MD, one of the coordinators of the study, wrote that "Of interest, however, the three patients (out of ten volunteers) who responded to minor autohemotherapy in the first trial, are still alive after four years p ost treatment, with CD4 counts in excess of two hundred. These patients should have theoretically succumbed to AIDS within a year post-treatment."6 In several clinics in Germany, AIDS patients are being treated successfully with different types of ozone t herapies, including rectal insufflation, ozone bagging, and autohemotherapy.
Bio-oxidative therapies can be an important part of holistic treatment for HIV-related problems, including lower T-cell counts, opportunistic infections, and AIDS-related diarrhea. Dan's was one such case. He was diagnosed HIV-positive and his T-cell coun t had dropped below 600. After only one month of ozone therapy as part of a protocol including vitamin supplements, anti-viral compounds and intestinal cleansing, his T-cell count rose to 900 and his swollen lymph nodes shrank for the first time in years.
Although there have been other cases of improvement of AIDS patients after regular ozone treatments (and several documented cases of people who were HIV+ reverting to HIV- status) ozone and hydrogen peroxide should not be considered as a "magic bullet" ag ainst HIV and AIDS. According to Frank Shallenberger, M.D. "Ozone therapy works in AIDS by acting as a an immune system modulator. In this capacity, it is very effective, safe, inexpensive and readily available. Proper therapy for AIDS will be directed at early intervention (i.e. CD4 count > 300), ozone plus other synergistic immune-augmented therapy, intestinal cleansing is paramount due to the immuno-suppressive aspect of parasites.7
Dr. Silvia Menendez, the co-founder of Cuba's Department of Ozone Department (part of the prestigious National Center for Scientific Research in Havana), suggested that ozone works best when administered as soon as possible after HIV infection, before the virus has penetrated the lymphatic system and bone marrow. The personal, economic and social ramifications of this possibility cannot be underestimated.
Q: Are these therapies safe?
A: Although ozone and hydrogen peroxide are highly toxic in their purified state, they have been found to be both safe and effective when diluted to therapeutic levels for medical use. When administered in prescribed amounts by a qualified practitioner, t he chances of experiencing adverse reactions to bio-oxidative therapies are extremely small. For example, a German study on 384,775 patients evaluating the adverse side effects of over five million medically-administered ozone treatments found that the RA te of adverse side effects was only 0.0007 per application. This figure is far lower than any other type of medical therapy.8
It has been estimated that over ten million people (primarily in Germany, Russia and Cuba) have been given bio-oxidative therapies over the past seventy years to treat over fifty different diseases. As cited before, they include heart and blood vessel dis eases, diseases of the lungs, infectious diseases, and immune-related disorders. In some cases, bio-oxidative therapies are administered alone, while in others, they are used in addition to traditional medical procedures (such as surgery or chemotherapy) or as adjuncts to alternative health practices like megavitamin therapy, acupuncture or herbal medicine.
Q: If these therapies are so great, why aren't they used more widely in Canada and The USA?
A: Despite the fact that both ozone and hydrogen peroxide therapy have been proven in clinical trials (and in regular clinical practice) to be safe and effective in Germany, Austria, Cuba, Mexico, Italy and Russia, very few people have heard about bio-ox idative therapies in the United States and Canada. Although an estimated 15,000 European practitioners legally use bio-oxidative therapies in their practices, the number of physicians using these therapies in North America is probably fewer than 500. This is partly due to the fact that information about medical ozone and hydrogen peroxide is not provided in medical schools, and students simply do not learn about them. In addition, the medical establishment (and especially provincial and state medical boar ds) often discourages or prevents licensed physicians from using them in their medical practice. Some, like Dr. Robert Atkins, M.D., the author of the popular book Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution, have been threatened with having their licenses revoked if th ey administer hydrogen peroxide or ozone. Clinics have been closed down and practitioners have been threatened with jail.
Q: Why is there so much prejudice against these therapies by the medical establishment?
A: A major reason for this lack of interest in bio-oxidative therapies is that ozone and hydrogen peroxide are non-patentable substances that are very inexpensive to manufacture and use. In Germany, Russia and Cuba, physicians have successfully treated m any serious and chronic conditions (including cancer and heart disease) without expensive surgery. The net cost of the materials for a treatment of autohemotherapy or a medical infusion of hydrogen peroxide is under $10. Even though physicians must includ e professional fees and the use of their offices and equipment, bio-oxidative therapies administered in a medical setting cost up to fifty percent less than traditional therapies, especially for patients suffering from chronic and degenerative diseases. Self-administered treatments by patients themselves, while not recommended, can cost far less. For these reasons, ozone and hydrogen peroxide pose a threat to the continued dominance of the medical establishment: the pharmaceutical industry, medical cente rs and physicians who are accustomed to providing expensive drugs, complex medical procedures and long hospital stays.
Q: But why don't agencies like the FDA and Health and Welfare Canada encourage clinical trials on these therapies?
A: Because government health agencies are often influenced by the pharmaceutical industry and medical lobbies, objective investigation and development of effective protocols for bio-oxidative therapies have been difficult to undertake. However, the Canadi an government has shown a greater willingness to investigate these therapies than American government agencies like the FDA or NIH, as shown by the HIV studies cited earlier. However, like the American press, the Canadian media largely ignored the importa nt findings that ozone can completely remove HIV, hepatitis and herpes viruses from the blood supply.
Q: What is the future of bio-oxidative therapies?
A: After reviewing the laboratory and clinical evidence regarding the use of ozone and hydrogen peroxide, a recent report by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) on Alternative Medical Systems and Practices in the United States has recommended that "de finitive studies be undertaken to determine whether these treatments have any utility".10 At the same time, a number of states- including New York and North Carolina- have recently passed "freedom of medicine" laws which allow the use of experimental th erapies by licensed practitioners. Many physicians who are members of IBOMF from both Canada and the United States are sharing their clinical data with the goal of presenting their findings to government agencies like the NIH and FDA.
Medical ozone and hydrogen peroxide form the "cutting edge" of a new healing paradigm, involving safe, effective, natural and less costly forms of medical therapy. As more people discover the value of these therapies, there will be greater consumer demand . Because bio-oxidative therapies like hydrogen peroxide and ozone hold great promise in treating both minor health problems and some of the most devastating diseases confronting humanity today, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and HIV-related pr oblems at low cost, they can help solve our national health care crisis. As more physicians become acquainted with the value of these therapies, they will become a valuable part of mainstream medical practice.
Notes
Oliver, T.H. and Murphy, D.V., "Influenzal Pneumonia: The Intravenous Use of Hydrogen Peroxide", The Lancet, February 21, 1920, pp. 432-3.
Shallenberger, Frank, "Intravenous Ozone Therapy in HIV-related Disease" Proceedings: Fourth International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Conference, April 1993.
Farr, Charles H., letter to the author, February 4, 1994.
Shallenberger, Frank, letter to the author, December 9, 1993.
Oxidative Therapy, (Oklahoma City: IBOMF, n.d.)
Baggs, A.C., "Are Worry-Free Transfusions Just a Whiff of Ozone Away?" Canadian Medical Association Journal, (April 1, 1993) :1159
Shannon, Cmdr. Michael, letter to the author, 21 January, 1994.
Jacobs, Marie Theres, "Adverse Effects and Typical Complications in Ozone-Oxygen Therapy", Ozonachrichten, 1982: (1), pp. 193-201
Carpendale, M.T., Interview in Ozone and the Politics of Medicine (Vancouver, Threshold Film, 1993).
Alternative Medicine: Expanding Medical Horizons (Washington: U.S. Government Printing office, 1994)
Nathaniel Altman is the author over fifteen books on diet and health, including Oxygen Healing Therapies , which was published in April by Healing Arts Press, and distributed in Canada by Alive Books.
[ISBN: 0-89281-527-2, illustrated, 201 pp., trade paper, $12.95].
NATHANIEL ALTMAN
169 Prospect Park West Brooklyn, New York 11215 (718) 499-2384 fax (718) 499-3129
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This is a reply to # 443,483So Time,
If I have 17%(food grade) hydrogen peroxide, what would be a good dose to start off with: how many drops per 8oz?- Re: Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in H... Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,485The commonly reccomended protocol is to start with 3 drops of 35% food grade peroxide in 8 ounces of water, and then to gradually increase to a maximum of 25 drops in 8 ounces, three times a day.
However, I had to modify it because I was very ill, and this was too much for me. So I instead started with only one drop in 16 ounces of water. Over the last three months I've gradually increased it to 30 drops in 16 ounces of water. This is equivalent to 15 drops per 8 ounces. I haven't been able to increase it beyond this because it makes me nauseaus if I go to a higher dose. I've been taking this twice a day on an empty stomach, in addition to absorbing peroxide through my skin and breathing it with a vaporizer. I've found that the skin absorbtion method is much stronger as far as actually getting it into the bloodstream, and only a very dilluted dose is needed. So I'm mostly just using the oral protocol for cleansing my digestive system, liver, and kidneys, and the skin absorbtion method for cleaning out the rest of my body. This is what I've found to work best for me so far anyway.
I don't think it really matters what % strength is used. One should just simply start with the lowest dose possible and then work up from there. This is especially important for very ill people. I would start with one drop of the 17% in 8 ounces of water. If that was too strong I'd cut back to one drop in 16 ounces. If it was too weak, I'd increase the dose. The proper dose causes a "light-headed" feeling. An excessive dose will cause extreme dizziness. In very ill people it's normal to get a headache, fatigue, etc, right after drinking it. These cleansing reactions can last several days to many months... It can make you feel like you're getting worse before you start to feel better! All your symptoms will get worse, and you'll even develop new ones! It can take a lot of willpower to stick to it! Hot baths or saunas (raising the core body temperature to 100F to 103F) are very effective at making the detox easier. I've found it to be especially effective to do the peroxide treatment WHILE my body temperature is raised while in the bathtub.
There are physicians all over the country (and the world) that will administer IV peroxide and ozone therapies. For me, even though there are doctors in my city that do these therapies, I find that doing it myself is probably cheaper and easier than having to go every day to a doctor that will stick needles into my arms to get the peroxide or ozone into me, and charge me lots of money for tests and treatments, etc. However, some people may not be able or capable of doing the treatments themselves, and so this may be a good option. However, I've heard of some cases where people have had to give up the treatment because of the vein damage caused by having needles stuck into them daily for several weeks - and so then they relapse! I've also heard that American doctors tend not to be as agressive in their treatment as the European doctors, and that the results therefore tend not to be as good. This probably varies from doctor to doctor however. I just personaly think the oral and skin absorbtion methods are easier, but you have to be willing to take your health into your own hands. For more info on physicians who do peroxide and ozone therapy you can visit this site: http://www.oxygenhealingtherapies.com/my_ozone_doctor.com.html It's not yet legal in all states.
Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,486Thanks Tim
I sent this to my sister, she is starting her self on hydrogen peroxide 17%.
Can I ask you, what sickness do you suffer from?
How long have you been on the hydrogen peroxide program?
What are the cures you have had with this treatment?
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This is a reply to # 443,487I was suffering from very severe MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity) also known as being a "universal reactor" meaning I'm severely allergic to almost everything I'm exposed to (chemicals, foods, pollen, etc). It has been a nightmare! This illness is fairly common in people with Chronic Fatigue Sydrome, Fibromyalgia, and Gulf War Syndrome (all these illnesses are said to be related, if not actually the same illness.)I have mild Chronic-Fatigue-Syndrome and fibro symptoms, but in my case the MCS was the worst part of it.
My allergies to chemicals (perfume, cleaning products, etc) are pretty much gone. My food allergies (to all foods and liquids) are a little bit better than they were, but still pretty bad. Otherwise, though, I'm still pretty sick.
I started the peroxide last June, but had to give it up because at the time I thought I was allergic to it (due to the detox reactions). However, in retrospect, I got a lot better after doing it. At the time I thought it was the Liver Cleanses and parasite herbs I was doing, but over the next six months I didn't make any progress despite doing lots of liver cleanses, herbs, probiotics, diet, etc. In fact, I was getting worse!
I realized that the only thing I had been doing before that I wasn't doing anymore was the peroxide, so I started it again about three months ago. It's taken almost three months of heavy detoxifing to get up to the dose I'm currently at. I'm only now reaching the dose that's considered to be neccessary for overcoming chronic illness. I'm still detoxifying heavily so I don't really know the ultimate outcome yet. I've heard from others that it can take several months to reach the "optimum" dose for people to recover from severe chronic illness. So far for me, this has been the case... I'll keep you up to date on my progress.
If you don't mind my asking, what condition is your sister suffering from? I've done a lot of research on peroxide and ozone therapy - maybe I could give her some advice.
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This is a reply to # 443,488Have you heard about the scientist that discovered a parasite in the lungs of his (CFS) subjects. It is a very small parasite and hard to find. I read it myself directly from the American medical journals
My sister and I have similar illnesses. I am hospitalized once, or twice a year from intestinal blockage. She has the same thing, just never ends up in the hospital. I am positive it is from parasites. Since I started HC strong parasite program, liquid oxygen therapy, and parastory, I have been passing loads of very small white parasites. They are all different sizes some 2.5cm and some .5cm. She has a tape worm for sure, she saw part of it come out. Also, white parasites (we think).
Is the tape worm affected by Hydrogen peroxide? If so, how long will it take to kill it?
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This is a reply to # 443,489I'm not surprised about the lung parasite. People with Chronic-Fatigue-Syndrome have been found to have HHV-6 virus, Epstein-Barr virus, Cytomegalo virus, mycoplasma, bacterial infections, parasites, candida, you name it! In fact, it's becoming evident that the same thing is true in many chronic illnesses. I recently even read a recent mainstream journal article about how bacteria has been found in the hearts of people with heart disease! I think it has to do with the body becoming toxic, which leads to infection, which leads to more toxicity, then more infection, etc. The body basically just becomes a big infested swamp!
I think a good way to think about internal disease is to compare it to an external wound, since everyone can relate to that. Healthy skin won't get infected, but if the skin is wounded, infection soon sets in (germs like to eat damaged or unhealthy tissue.) For example, when you die the germs will set in VERY quickly. These germs are in fact all around us, and are normaly harmless, but when your tissues are diseased they get a foothold and start the decay process. Depending on the health of your immune system, and the virulence of the germs, your illness will progress more or less rapidly. Peroxide works by cleaning a wound of debris, germs, and diseased cells. It clears out the swamp! It sanitizes your internal tissues and fluids.
I don't know if peroxide will kill a tapeworm. When I was taking parasite herbs, I had lots of things that looked like worms, as well as white cheesy-looking stuff (perhaps candida?), and something that could have been a tapeworm. I've read that peroxide can kill parasites, but I don't know if it can actually kill Tapeworms (they're pretty big.) I know Dr. Hulda Clark uses capsules of ozonated olive oil to kill parasite eggs, and peroxide works the same way as ozone.
This site has plenty of info about how to kill parasites (including tapeworms). You should follow their advice, to be on the safe side. In addition, if I was you I would do the oral peroxide. If this wasn't enough, I would also do daily plain water enemas followed by a peroxide enema (up to 15 drops of 35% per liter of water), and hold it in as long as possible. You can find enema kits at many drugstores and health food stores. Start a with a low dose. This will possibly clear out any obstruction inside of you. Be sure to take probiotics to replace the good bacteria that are killed by the peroxide.
You should also consider a change of diet. I'd reccomend purchasing the book "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by Weston A. Price. You can buy it from Amazon.com
CureZone (this website) also reccomends the book, and has given it its highest rating (10 stars): //www.curezone.org/books/best/book.asp?ID=220
It's an absolutely shocking book that shows (with photographs) the kind of degeneration that has occured in people from eating processed foods without us even realizing it. Here's a good overview of the book (including some photos from inside the book):
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0203CAT/020305ppnf/PPNF.HTML
There is also non-profit foundation that now promotes this book. It has recently become very popular, and is now the 24th most popular health website on the net (CureZone is 4th!). I've had very good success following their nutritional advice. This is their online brochure: http://www.westonaprice.org/membership/wapfbrochure.html
Follow their advice, and please leave your preconceptions at the door! Their advice is to throw modern nutritional "theory" out the window, and to eat the way that our healthy ancestors ate. This is their homepage: http://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm
On the left side of the page, especially check out the links "Traditional Diets", "Know Your Fats", "Myths and Truths", and "Nutrition Basics".
Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,487I just remembered one other thing that has improved since starting the peroxide therapy. I've been suffering from low body teperature (common in people with immune-related illnesses). My body temperature has been around 96F for most of this year, but has finally returned to normal 98.6F in the last week! I used to be very cold all the time, and I had to keep the thermostat on 80F, now I'm fine at normal room temperature.
Many people that have gone through detox have said that their symptoms tend to get better in the reverse order that they got them. So far, this has been the case for me too. I got MCS a year ago, and that has been the first symptom to leave. The low body temperature started about a year and a half ago, and that is now better. If this continues, then my food allergies should be the next thing to improve. By far, my worst symptoms have been the MCS, low body temperature, and food allergies (to all foods). It got so bad I had to leave my job. For awhile I was so sensitive I wasn't even able to leave my house without becoming deathly ill from exposure to car exhaust, perfumes, etc. I've become extremely emaciated from not eating enough (due to the food allergies and poor digestion) If I'm able to reverse all three of these I'll be very happy. I've reversed the first two, but the food allergies are still very bad... Hopefully they'll improve soon...
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This is a reply to # 443,491Dearest Tim,
I commend you on your drive to heal your body... May God be with you (I hope you are not offended by that). I only suffer from just a small fraction of your allergic symptoms and yet when I read this message, I can truely relate on the inability to eat several foods or run out the door for want of air when someone comes remotely close to me wearing perfume. Now I have chronic sinusitis with a history of sinus surgery. I also have the worst sinus infection that makes my breath smell like decayed animal waste. I happen to know a little about oxygen and tissue wasting. I've tried so many things from herbs to Colloidal Silver and will try the peroxide therapy. Thanks for sharing your story, you have made a great difference in my life.
Rosebud
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This is a reply to # 443,540watch out !get Clark's Black-Walnut ,cloves and Wormwood asap!I know about that smell.Its your insides being attacked by cancer.Take mega dose of Clark's tinture.I lost my little sister to just that smell (cancer). - Re: Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in H... Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,540Hi Rosebud! Good luck with the peroxide therapy! I've heard that the best treatment for sinus or lung infections is to buy a vaporizer at the drugstore and use it to vaporize the peroxide so that you can breathe it in. One should start off with a small amount of peroxide dilluted in water, and work up to 1 pint or more of 3% peroxide per gallon of water. Following the protocols for drinking and bathing in peroxide would also be helpful. Peroxide will clear up any kind of infection if you stick with it.
I'm currently also using activated charcoal (it works the same as Bentonite clay, but is supposedly several times more effective.) It's VERY VERY helpful while detoxing using peroxide. It will soak up the toxins, wastes, and dead organisms released by the peroxide, and remove them from the body. These toxins are what cause the detox and allergic reactions. Activated charcoal is the same material they make water filters out of. Emergency rooms give it to people who've been poisoned. It's basically just pure carbon that will absorb large amounts of toxins. It will increase the speed that toxins are eliminated from the body. These toxins are generally released by the liver in the bile but then about 80% or so is reabsorbed back into the bloodstream through the intestines. The charcoal will allow a larger % to be removed, thus increasing the speed of the detox.
There's a doctor (Dr. Shoemaker) who's using the prescription drug Cholestyramine to accomplish the same thing. It works the same way as activated charcoal does. He's using it along with Antibiotics for MCS, Lyme Disease, CFS, Gulf War Sydrome, Fibromyalgia, etc with very good results. http://www.immunesupport.com/library/showarticle.cfm/ID/3990/T/CFIDS_FM
I started using activated charcoal about 2 weeks ago, and it has greatly increased the speed of my detox. I've been having daily low-grade fevers (about 99.5F), and flu-like symptoms, and I've been feeling very bad. However, in the last few days, my food allergies have finally been clearing up! They vary from day to day, but seem to be about 40%-60% improved! These are all very good signs and possibly indicate that my immune system is finally beginning to recover! The fevers and flu-like symptoms possibly indicate my immune system is attempting to fight my chronic infection. In the early stages of my illness I also had these symptoms, but they went away as I became sicker. Now, they're coming back! I think this is a very good sign.
I purchased 1lb of activated charcoal powder for only about $14 (vs. almost $200 if I had bought it in capsule form.) I take two teaspoons in 16oz of water before each meal. Here's more info on activated charcoal:
http://healingtools.tripod.com/thn5.html
http://www.emedicine.com/aaem/topic507.htm
http://www.edenspantry.com/tips.html
Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,542What a pleasure to receive your response Bill.
So glad you are doing SO MISERABLE!!!! I hear it is a good sign also. Would be glad to know it all worked out for the best...health that is.
Keep me posted.
Thanks for the Activated C info. Since it works like the Bentonite clay, I suppose I could use it as a colon cleanser also...you know, kill two birds with a stone!!!But for how long is it safe to use it. Also, where to get it from?
Have you heard of Colloidal Silver .... I must confess, I used it but not as regularly as I should have and also completely stopped at one time. I read via surfing that C. S. can be mixed with H. Peroxide and the combination will result in a O negative ( as in molecular ionic charge symbol...you know what I mean right?) Or was it O +1, either way it will leave a charge in the body and hense result in a free radicle in the body. Isn't that one of the major cause of cancer...theory wise? On the other hand. it leaves an additional molecule O which is ogygen and oxygen is to the cell as oxygen is to life. Is this far fetched and does the carcinogenic possibility out weigh the benefit. What do you think Bill? Or anybody who knows anything about this subject.
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This is a reply to # 443,544I bought my charcoal from: http://www.edenspantry.com/ Click on "Online Catalog", and then "Food Products". Another place that has the bulk powder is: http://www.healmarketplace.com/
Activated charcoal works exactly the same way as bentonite, but it's said to be three or four times as effective as Bentonite or regular charcoal. It's basically just pure carbon, that they then blast with oxygen causing it to become "activated" by decreasing the particle size so that it has a larger surface area. There's also "super-activated charcoal", but I think you maybe need a prescription to get it.
While activated charcoal is a good colon cleanser, you should think of it more as a "toxin absorber", absorbing all the germs and their neurotoxins from the bile, along with other toxins. This is supposedly very beneficial for those with chronic illness.
I've been starting to feel a lot better after about two weeks of using it. I've been using about four teaspoons a day, which is equivalent to about 20 capsules. The reccomended dose for very ill people is up to twelve teaspoons a day, so I'm thinking about increasing my dose. Like bentonite, it will also bind with fat-soluble vitamins (such as A, D, and E), so it isn't a good idea to use for more than a month or two, and you should probably take a supplement of these vitamins too. I'd reccomend cod liver oil as the best natural source. I take one tablespoon a day.
I've heard good things about Colloidal Silver , however you need to take a very large amount (several ounces or more) on a daily basis to overcome a chronic infection. I've heard it works well along with peroxide. I don't use it myself because it's too expensive, you need to buy or make your own generator in order for it to be cost-effective. If you use a generator, it's very cheap. I wouldn't take it for long periods of time, because I've heard it can cause problems.
This page discusses silver: http://www.waronaids.com/Colloidal-Silver.asp
And here's some good info about combining it with peroxide: http://www.waronaids.com/Colloidal-Silver.asp#CS%20&%20AIDS%20Synergy
Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,546I said: "it isn't a good idea to use for more than a month or two", however I plan on continuing until I'm done detoxing and all my symptoms are gone, even if it takes longer than this. I just take an extra large amount of vitamins. I've read studies showing that it doesn't cause any significant problems from several months of use of very large amounts, so it probably isn't a huge issue. But you probably shouldn't take it any longer than is neccessary.
Get the 1lb size, since you'll likely use it up pretty quickly (within a couple months) if you take 6-12tsp a day. - Re: Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in H... Rosebud
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This is a reply to # 443,546Thanks alot for replying Tim. So very glad you are doing better. Out of curiosity...did you develop the fague syndrome and the allergic rxn later in life or born with them. Did one lead to the other? I wonder if it has more to do with the environment and your immune system as an adult as opposed to familial history.
I bought a pint of 35% Hp for about $13 ...I plan on using that internally and the 3% store brand for the baths...less epensive. This is ok right?
I was told its very important to add probiotics/acidophilus to my daily diet otherwise I can creat a worse internal condition....makes sense. HP kills microbes both good and bad and I must replace the good to prevent candidae (spelling). However, I'm thinking take Hp Am and noon only and then probiotics at night so that I have the good bacs until am and then start the Hp next day. I suppose I will be taking the charcoal (I'm guessing) 30min to an hr post HP?
Thanks again...I will research the colloidal with Hp and see how it goes...I bought 4 bottles of 500ml mesosilver (Have u heard of them?). Expensive yes, but I was desperate. I might just do the silver w/HP and Charcoal. Including of course the probiotics and Cod liver oil. I plan on doing Dr. Clark's tricomponents dewormer also. Will I stop there? Why not add kidney and liver cleans too. I look forward to living an optimal life. I know alot of people with chronic diseas that all this info will also save their lives. Thanks again. Keep in touch Tim.
Rosebud :)
- Re: Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in H... Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,549In my youth I had Tourette's Syndrome, hepatitis, and a unique form of viral pneumonia. I got over these by the age seven. I developed fatigue and allergies during my early teen years, but mostly it was just hay fever and lack of energy. In my later teenage years I developed bad acne, depression, anxiety, and mild OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder). I took lots of Antibiotics , antidepressants, and my diet was pretty bad (lots of pizza, pasta, mountain dew, and beer).
About six years ago I decided to try to get better. I tried peroxide therapy and parasite herbs and a liver cleanse, but they didn't seem to help. They only made me feel worse. However, shortly after I stopped them, I noticed my depression, anxiety, and OCD were gone! At the time, I thought it was because of the antidepressants I was taking, but in retrospect, it could have been the other therapies I was doing. It makes since that they would have made me feel worse while I was doing them (I would have been detoxing), but then improved shortly after. I no longer needed to take any antidepressants.
I still didn't feel completely healthy however so I decided to change my diet. I adopted a raw frutarian diet(nothing but raw fruit), and lots of fasting. I went through a lot of detox while doing this, but it left me very skinny (120lb at 6foot 2!!) after six months. I started to suffer from symptoms of Tourette's Syndrome and I began to acquire food allergies , fatigue, an over-active sense of smell, insomnia, and some fibromyalgia symptoms. Over the last few years, my symptoms continued to get worse, and I developed food allergies to everything, full-blown MCS, fatigue, joint pain, etc. In retrospect, while the fruit diet was good for detox, it was deficient in nutrition, and it probably wrecked my immune system.
About a year ago I decided to get serious and do as much research as I could about my condition. I found that the symptoms I suffer are the same as the related conditions CFS/MCS/Fibro/GWS, and that doctors are finding that these conditions all have an infectious cause along with immuune system impairment (an impairment of the Th1 cytokine response which is what defends against microbes, while also causing an overactive Th2 cytokine response which is what causes allergies). Interestingly most other chronic diseases show many of the same symptoms and immune system imbalance. For example, AIDS, Lyme, Lupus, MS, Autism, etc, etc.
I've come to believe that all these diseases (and most others) are infectious in nature, even the ones that Science hasn't figured out the cause for yet. In livestock medicine it's well known that most animal diseases are due to parasites, bacteria, viruses, etc, and that many of their symptoms closely match human symptoms. Is it really that big of a leap to say that these symptoms in humans are also due to infections, even if the actual microbe(s) haven't been discovered yet? Science just recently discovered a microbe associated with MS! They used to think ulcers were caused by stress, now they know it's due to a bacteria (H. Pylori)! What other diseases have infectious causes that Science hasn't discovered yet?
Peroxide or ozone therapy will kill all pathogenic organisms of all kinds, the charcoal will soak up the dead organisms and their toxins. (According to some, the toxins released by the germs are one of the major causes of the immune suppression and allergic symptoms). So far, it seems to be working for me... I'll keep you posted.
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This is a reply to # 443,550Hi Tim
I hope you are in good health and you are continually healing. I was wondering if you knew of any known cases where herpes was cured with h202 therapy? Thank you for your help.
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- Re: Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in H... Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,549Your protocol sounds good. Just be sure to start at a low dose and gradually increase it daily. If the detox becomes too strong for you, you can cut back the dose, but don't stop for more than a few days.
If you're going to be taking the acidophilus at night, try doing an external peroxide treatment at that time. For example a peroxide bath, or direct skin application. However, because of your sinus infection, you should probably focus on doing the vaporizer method. I'm using a $12 Walgreens vaporizer (that I bought at the drugstore), but you can use any kind of vaporizer or humidifier. I leave it on overnight while I'm sleeping. Work up to 1 or 2 pints of 3% per gallon of water, but try starting with a smaller amount. You'll likely start coughing up lots of mucus and infectious matter.
http://www.oxytherapy.com/testimonials/jayc.html
http://www.oxytherapy.com/testimonials/jpayne.html
Take the oral peroxide on an empty stomach, then follow with the charcoal 15-30 minutes later. Then eat a meal with fat in it (such as olive oil, cheese, etc). This will stimulate bile production and the charcoal will soak up the toxins your body expells in the bile (bile contains wastes filtered out from your liver.) By the way, the charcoal will also bind to the parasite herbs, probably making them ineffective if you take them at the same time.
Good Luck! Let us know how it goes! Perhaps we should start a new thread?
Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,542Please pardon my absent mindedness, I meant to address this to you Tim not Bill (I don't know a Bill, come to think of it)
Rosebud
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- Re: Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in H... Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,540Hi Rosebud! Good luck with the peroxide therapy! I've heard that the best treatment for sinus or lung infections is to buy a vaporizer at the drugstore and use it to vaporize the peroxide so that you can breathe it in. One should start off with a small amount of peroxide dilluted in water, and work up to 1 pint or more of 3% peroxide per gallon of water. Following the protocols for drinking and bathing in peroxide would also be helpful. Peroxide will clear up any kind of infection if you stick with it.
I'm currently also using activated charcoal (it works the same as Bentonite clay, but is supposedly several times more effective.) It's VERY VERY helpful while detoxing using peroxide. It will soak up the toxins, wastes, and dead organisms released by the peroxide, and remove them from the body. These toxins are what cause the detox and allergic reactions. Activated charcoal is the same material they make water filters out of. Emergency rooms give it to people who've been poisoned. It's basically just pure carbon that will absorb large amounts of toxins. It will increase the speed that toxins are eliminated from the body. These toxins are generally released by the liver in the bile but then about 80% or so is reabsorbed back into the bloodstream through the intestines. The charcoal will allow a larger % to be removed, thus increasing the speed of the detox.
There's a doctor (Dr. Shoemaker) who's using the prescription drug Cholestyramine to accomplish the same thing. It works the same way as activated charcoal does. He's using it along with Antibiotics for MCS, Lyme Disease, CFS, Gulf War Sydrome, Fibromyalgia, etc with very good results. http://www.immunesupport.com/library/showarticle.cfm/ID/3990/T/CFIDS_FM
I started using activated charcoal about 2 weeks ago, and it has greatly increased the speed of my detox. I've been having daily low-grade fevers (about 99.5F), and flu-like symptoms, and I've been feeling very bad. However, in the last few days, my food allergies have finally been clearing up! They vary from day to day, but seem to be about 40%-60% improved! These are all very good signs and possibly indicate that my immune system is finally beginning to recover! The fevers and flu-like symptoms possibly indicate my immune system is attempting to fight my chronic infection. In the early stages of my illness I also had these symptoms, but they went away as I became sicker. Now, they're coming back! I think this is a very good sign.
I purchased 1lb of activated charcoal powder for only about $14 (vs. almost $200 if I had bought it in capsule form.) I take two teaspoons in 16oz of water before each meal. Here's more info on activated charcoal:
http://healingtools.tripod.com/thn5.html
http://www.emedicine.com/aaem/topic507.htm
http://www.edenspantry.com/tips.html
Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,543Dear Tim, I have enjoyed your information very much. I have added 3% peroxide to the bath frequently over the last month, up to 8 pints, with excellent results. So many bubbles come out of my skin and the surface of the tub fills up with a white dust. What do you think this is? The obvious answer is dead skin cells, but perhaps it could also be the biproducts of the metabolism of parasites. I am wondering how much I could use--conceivably I could fill up the whole bathtub with it, but then there wouldn't be any hot water, which seems to make it work better. I also use salt in the bath, sometimes with the peroxide and sometimes without. The salt seems to be more nourishing, I don't feel tired after using it. Yet the peroxide has a more cleansing effect. I open my eyes under water all the time with the salt, and have done it a few times with peroxide. Is there any reason not to do this? I think the most risk would be from using too hot water. I have noticed that my floaters are diminishing rapidly. When I close my eyes I can see the image of my eye and can thoroughly look over the surface of it. I can even see the hairs of my eyelashes around it. Does anyone else have this experience?
I got rid of what was turning into nasty bronchitis with 11% food grade peroxide diluted in water. I only did it for 7 days, and just got out of the habit of it, but I believe I would get amazing results with it if i kept going. I just kept blowing my nose.
The other thing, is my hair is turning blonde again. it seems to me that the hair circulates! Whatever I am doing is allowing minerals I suppose to flow more freely through my hair and hopefully everywhere else. It's so exciting. I welcome any comments and suggestions. Sincerely, Hillary- Re: Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in H... Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,553I'm glad to see you're getting such good results! You can use as much peroxide as you want in the bath! Just use your own judgement. Try applying direct 1% to 3% peroxide to your skin. However, it's a good idea to only gradually increase your dose by small amounts, so that you don't overdo it! Just be careful, because it IS possible to overdo it! However, the only side-effects I've actually ever heard of (in healthy people) are light-headedness, fatigue, mild headaches, warm or cold feelings, and mild irritation at the site of application. Of course, chronically ill people also go through a herxheimer detox reaction, but that usually happens with any kind of detox. Keep in mind that 3% is commonly used as a mouth rinse, and 7% to 20% is used in tooth whiteners. However, swallowing straight 35% can cause severe gastrointestinal damage! In large amounts, it could kill you! 90% peroxide is used as rocket fuel, and would likely kill you if you simply dipped your finger in it! In other words, dosage DOES matter! The key is to take enough so that it kills germs and oxidizes toxins, but not so much that it actually harms your own cells. The commonly reccomended doses are in this range, and it's probably not a good idea to stray too far from these reccomendations.
The bubbles are oxygen. It's said that the white stuff IS dead skin cells. The outer surface of the skin is made up of dead cells, and since they don't have the protection that live cells have, they are easily oxidized. I don't see any reason not to have your eyes open under the water, as long as it doesn't burn or anything like that.
When you say that it's turning your hair blonde do you mean that it's bleaching your hair? I don't think the amounts you're using are strong enough to be causing that to happen... Or, do you mean your hair is returning to its natural color?
Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,543Dear Tim,
I've tried to reply a few days ago but the Oxy forum would not be available to acces.
Any how, wow, you have come a long way from the beginning of all your illnesses to where you are now. Way to go!!!!
As for me, I started my treatment 5 or 6 days ago. I've been taking the 35% about 6drops in 10oz of distilled H2O only once a day b/c oh my!! it tastes aweful. I often feel really nauseated within 15 to 30min of taking it. I start having increased amt of sputum. I suppose that is b/c of the increased (toxins) therapeutic effect of the HP. Do you get nausea and or vomiting? I also add about a tsp Colloidal Silver to it and drink also once a day.
I've also used the HP bath up to 1qt once a day. This is my day's highlight. The first day I used it I was bloated for two days and started passing so much gas, it was embarrasing, not to mention constipated. I also had a terrible Body Odor right after the first bath that I had to take another bath and sit in my bath room built sauna for over 30min (turn on the hot tap water and ensure all doors and windows and under the bathroom door is sealed with a large towel to keep all the heat in the bathroom and whala, you have the most private, individualized sauna in the making. Great effect if bathroom is small). I do the bath 15 to 30 min each time and let the bath water go. Then I turn on the hot water as HOT as it will go and just sit on the throne (toilet) until I begin to sweat then I turn the hot water to hot enough to handle and srub w/ a lofa (spelling) sponge and soap from face to toes with, quickly dry myself and turn the water to HOT again and break in profuse sweat again then quickly run in the HOT water OR as HOT as I can handle and rinse it off. I sometimes rub 1/2 to 1/2 or more HP than water on my skin while the HOT water is on and I'm sitting on the throne.
I have healthier looking skin, softer and can tell by the look on my white towel that I've gotten rid of the dead skin each time I take the HP bath. No need for deodorant if HP bath every day!. I cut myself the other day and noticed my blood is now a shinny bright moderatley thick rosie color compared to dark burgundy and thick prior. What's the reason for this? I wish though that my wound would heal faster. That way, the sinus tissue would heal faster also.
I'm definetly more energetic. Its amazing, I didn't think I was necessarily fatigued but I certainly have alot more energy and could get away with 5 hours of sleep compared to before.
I noticed that if I do not take the HP bath once within 24 hrs, I began to have general achs and aching back, stuffy nose, chills, you know "the flu lkie symptoms". I now have faint headachs and my body sort of pulsates with every respirations especially if I don't follow the regimen at least once bath every 24hrs. I must also add that I used to have this pulsating symptom prior to the HP whenever I was tired.But now I tend to only have it right after a treatment or if no treatemtn within 24 hrs. All this must be "detoxing"
In addition to all this, I take vit C 1000mg, 400mg CoQ10, garlic 5-6tabs, Golden seal, quercitin-c combo of(350mg quercitin /100mg vit C.Spirulina and alot of fruits. I also do the vegies drink 2-6. cups /day. I drink anywhere form 1/2 a gallon to a gallon of distilled h2o a day. I've noticed my sinus are better but I know I still have the allergies and definitly the infection.
This is a long one I know, but this is my update so far. The Charcoal will be delivered w/in the next couple of days and I will start that, I might just do the baths twice a day.
Rosebud- Re: Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in H... Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,566Yes, peroxide doesn't taste very good, but at only six drops it shouldn't be all that bad... As far as the nausea goes, some people get, and some don't. Are you taking it on an empty stomach? I've been taking it first thing in the morning, then again around noon. My first meal of the day is lunch, after my first two doses of peroxide (I usually skip breakfast). Then at night, I only do peroxide baths, skin absorbtion, vaporizer, etc. I find that if I drink the peroxide within five hours or so after eating, it makes me nauseas. I think this is perhaps because the peroxide reacts with the food or something. If that doesn't help, another possibility is that you have a large amount of bacteria or candida in your stomach or intestines, and the peroxide is reacting with it. If this is the case, it should soon clear up. The final possibility is simply that you have a sensitive stomach!
It sounds like you're creating a steam-room effect in your bathroom. A steam room will make it seem like you're sweating, but unless the room is very hot, in reality it's just the water vapor from the air condensing on your skin. For a true hyperthermia treatment, you need to make sure your core body temperature gets up as high as you can tolerate (generally 100F to 103F.) However, (in my case at least), the more you're detoxing, the less you'll be able to tolerate the higer temperatures. Unless you have an actual dry sauna, taking a hot bath is probably the most effective way to accomplish this. It might not seem like it, but you WILL sweat a lot even while under water. However, don't make the water TOO hot! A water temperature of about 105F to 107F is perfect. Use a thermometer to make sure. If you use water that is too hot, your skin will heat up faster than your core, and you won't be able to tolerate it for very long. Stay in as long as you can tolerate, at least a 1/2 hour (up to several hours.) Also, always drink lots of water and increase your salt and potassium intake, since all the sweating will make you very dehydrated.
I also have lots of bloating, gas, and Body Odor , it's part of the detox process! The bright red color of your blood is because of the increased oxygenation! Put some 3% on your wound, it will help it heal faster. Have you tried the vaporizer method yet? It should be very effective for your sinus infection. Try using the vaporizer in your bedroom overnight while you're sleeping.
Some activated charcoal tips: The powder is very messy and will likely get everywhere. It's easy to clean it off of smooth surfaces, but if it gets on fabric, it can stain it. Start at 1tsp (about 1 or 2 grams) mixed in a glass of water a half an hour before each meal and increase up to as much as you want. The more heavily you're detoxing, the more you'll need. However, the more you take, the more likely you'll become constipated. To counter this effect, increase your fiber intake and take psylium fiber mixed in with the charcoal. Since it passes right through you, it will make your stools black! I'm currently taking 2 tablespoons twice a day (about 18 grams per day)! At this high dose, it can cause poor fat digestion, gas, bloating, and even intestinal obstruction. In this case, it may be neccessary to take a laxative or do daily enemas. I've had to do daily enemas since starting the large amounts charcoal. However, unless you're extremely ill, and are going through a massive detox, you likely won't need to take this large of an amount anyway. I'm following the Dr. Shoemaker protocol. He uses 16 grams of cholestyramine resin (Questran) per day for his chronic illness patients. Questran is a prescription drug that works in the same way as activated charcoal, and also has all the same side-effects.
Tim- Re: Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in H... Rosebud
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This is a reply to # 443,567Thanks Tim, you always have a helpful tip or two for me to use and I really appreciate that. How are you feeling overall now? I supose its possible to overdo the charcoal...you don't want to cause intestinal obstruction or have your body depend on enemas for a long time.
I will certainly use your advice on the charcoal regimen. Thanks for the sauna enlightenment...it makes alot of sense.
I did the vaporizer deal once but was afraid, b/c I don't have a lung problem and thought "if it aint broke......" I did some research and last night came acrose "WWW.thedoctorwithin.com" site saying that a 1:2 HP to H2O instilled with a syringe into the nasal passages cleared the sinus...well I did that along time ago only adding colloidal S. and it stung to my brain. I never did it again but I did get numerous amt of the fowl smelling pus he talked about. I tried his 1:2 ratio last night and it too stung so bad (actually 1:3). I got a good effect also but really reluctant to continue b/c of the pain and overwhelming sensation. I read that if colloidal s. and Sea Salt 15ml to a pinch of Sea Salt intilled in the nasal passage and filled up w/ this mix while lying facing up and head hanging over edge of mattrrss so that nose is pointing up. Hold possition 2-3min then roll over on belly (pinch nose to hold liquid in place)with head still hanging hold position 2-3min. Do another regimen in 45min. two sets of this is a treatment. Two to three treatments a day. I did all this and tolerated this very well if I instill drops slowly until nose is filled but I must confess that I did not do this consistently and seem to have stoffy nose which I only have if I eat the flour foods or rice. I want to max this treatment and add the CS and HP but do you know if I can add Sea Salt to this mix or can I add sea salt to the HP(what chemical compound will it form?).
Rosebud :)- Re: Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in H... Tim
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This is a reply to # 443,569I've been doing the vaporizer method almost every night without any problems. My breathing is actually much better than it was before - although the first night I did it, it casued irritation, and I coughed up infectious mucus. However, using a syringe should work too, I suppose. But I'd think the vaporizer method would get deeper into the sinuses. However, it sounds like you're using too much peroxide - instead of using 1:2 or 1:3 try using a much lower dillution, and then work your way up. If you have lots of infection in there, the high dillutions will cause excessive oxidation which can be very unpleasant. Possibly the same thing is happening with your nausea from the oral peroxide.
Salt, silver, and also vinegar are also very effective. I don't know about the combo of salt and peroxide, but I know silver and peroxide make an effective combo, and vinegar and peroxide combine to make a compound called peracetic acid that is a more potent antimicrobial than either alone. It probabably isn't neccessary to combine them however, since peroxide is probably effective enough just on its own, but if you do use them, try using smaller amounts, so that they don't cause irritation.
The protocol you mentioned sounds good. It's always very important to do any kind of anti-microbial treatment several times a day (even as often as every three hours), because germs will grow back between treatments if you don't do them often enough. This is why Antibiotics /antifungals are usually prescribed to be taken several times a day. The more frequently you do them, the better, because it prevents the germs from growing back. Unfortunatley, this isn't widely known or discussed in the alternative health community.
Read this: (from Positive Health News Report No 20 Spring Issue (2000) www.keephope.net
Timing of doses may be the key to successful anti-viral therapy
The original Marc Correa protocol was written in July of 1997. Earlier this week, I attempted to reach him by phone at his grandfather’s home. His grandfather told me that Marc had moved out and he did not know his new phone number. I left my phone number with him and he promised to give it to Marc on his next visit.
For almost 3 years, I have analyzed the Marc Correa protocol looking for the secret of his success and have had two earlier interpretations on this subject. Now I have a third. It is this: It was the timing of the antivirals he took that brought his viral load down to non-detectable levels.
I recall that Marc told me he used the herbal antivirals exactly 3 times a day spaced at the same times he previously used when he was on a drug cocktail that had produced intolerable side effects. As I recall, they were about 8 hours apart. In hindsight, I now regret having not published this small detail that glided right past my conscious mind at the time. I now recall him telling me that he used the whole lemon/olive oil drink at times that would have been about 12 hours apart. While I now recall this information from our conversation, he also failed to include it in the written copy of the protocol he mailed me in July, 1997. “if persons with HIV used drugs cocktails like most people have used alternative therapies, most would have failed on these regimens long ago”
Last week, I met a friend, Rob, whom I haven’t seen in years who is a graduate from medical school. To my surprise, he told me he was selling pharmaceuticals. I said: “so you are a drug salesman.” He said “yes, but the legal ones.” While we both nursed a beer at a local Pub, I discussed with him the amazing results of the vinegar treatment for HIV as relayed to me by Stephen and we got into the subject of the timing of dosages.
Rob told me that the pharmaceutical companies know that the timing of doses in prescription drugs was critical for treatment success. I asked: Why would timing be important for an antiviral treatment? Rob stated: “if the timing between doses is too long, you will have a significant viral rebound. The amount of the drug in the blood has to be kept at a certain level to keep the virus suppressed.”
I then said: Why did you not tell me this 7 years ago when we held long talks on all the various alternative treatments for HIV? He replied: “I wasn’t aware of this 7 years ago and it never occurred to me. You know that the mindset of people using alternative therapies and those using only drugs are at odds. Both sides do not communicate with each other. If persons with HIV used drugs cocktails like most people have used alternative therapies, most would have failed on these regimens long ago”
I replied: “You are right. Viral rebound does not just occur when you have a lab test, it can occur in any 24 hour period that viral suppression stops. When I look back at the Marc Correa protocol, I now realize that the timing of the doses he took was just as important as what he used. This concept of timing is very simple. I wish I would have thought of this years ago. Many of the alternative treatments that we sent down the pike now need to be retrieved and properly retested on a structured schedule where the doses are properly timed.”
On a side note, I asked Rob why the pharmaceutical companies did not come up with more cures for diseases. He said: “Cures, there is no money in cures. Most drugs are designed to alleviate symptoms. This way, the patients is dependent on the drug(s) for the rest of their lives. This generates a steady flow of you know what - the bottom line. If you cured every disease that came along, the sales of drugs would crash and so would the profits.”
My comment: “profits are more important than cures?”
Rob: “it’s all about money.”
Speaking of Timing and Cures
Sometime in February was a short televised evening report on one of the national television networks, either CNN or ABC, about a lady in either New Mexico or Arizona who is 102 years old and still practicing medicine. Her medical practice started in 1928. She was visited by parents with children who drove up to 40 or even 50 miles to see her. At her age, she could walk, talk and function normally like a person 30 or 40 years younger. While I was entranced watching this special, they never spelled out her name, so I don’t know who she is or how to contact her.
One part of the interview especially caught my attention. A mother brought a child with an ear infection that several doctors could not get rid of even after several prescriptions of Antibiotics . The 102 yr. old physician then prescribed more Antibiotics for the child with one important aspect to the protocol - timing. She prescribed smaller doses to be given to the child exactly 3 hours apart 24 hours a day for 3 days. This means that the parents had to wake up the child twice during the night to give the antibiotics. She even said: “if you are even 15 minutes late, forget it, it won’t work.” She said that when antibiotics were first introduced early in this century, this is how they were used, but everyone today has forgotten about it. The news reporter followed up on this report and found that in 3 days, the infection was gone, the child was cured.
As my mind pauses the concepts of her approach, this thought comes forth: I wonder if this timing method of therapy could completely eradicate a virus like HIV in 72 hours? How about other viruses like HHV-6, CMV, EBV, etc. etc.? Let many theories, someone will have to test it to determine if total viral eradication is possible.- Re: Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide in H... Julia
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Hi Tim,
your correspondes are very valuable. You are bright person.
I am sorry for some mistakes in my text ( i am not good with English)
I was interested by some words about 102 years old doctor in your letter. The idea was like homeopathic doses are work better then horse's doses from pharmaceutical companies. They are interested just for money.
I'd like to speak not about homeopathy. I read the article in Russian magazine long time ago (that study actually where performed in Kazakhstan- the former Republic of Russia). Researchers tryed to make NOZODES - like a traces of simple medicines which have been dilluted in the water and they supposed that this method of taking medicine is much more powerful. Aspirin in a very low doses in a water solution acts better and less side effects. Any medicine. Probably water has a memory and repeat the 'information" from the chemicals and multiply its strenth. Very Low doses of medicine!
I guess this research may be exists somewhere in Euorope either? - Re: low dosens of medicine work bett... Julia
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This is a reply to # 443,570
Hi Tim,
your correspondes are very valuable. You are bright person.
I am sorry for some mistakes in my text ( i am not good with English)
I was interested by some words about 102 years old doctor in your letter. The idea was like homeopathic doses are work better then horse's dosen from pharmaceutical companies. They are interested just for money.
I'd like to speak not about homeopathy. I read the article in Russian magazine long time ago (that study actually where performed in Kazakhstan- the former Republic of Russia). Researchers tryed to make NOZODES - like a traces of simple medicines which have been dilluted in the water and they supposed that this method of taking medicine is much more powerful. Aspirin in a very low doses in a water solution acts better and less side effects. Any medicine. Probably water has a memory and repeat the 'information" from the chemicals and multiply its strenth. Very Low doses of medicine!
I guess this research may be exists somewhere in Euorope either?
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This is a reply to # 443,486Hi,
I have had a constipation problem all of my life (38 now)
And I have all the symptoms of systemic candida which I think is the cause of my health problems. I have always been health all my life but now I suffer from:
Chronic Fatigue-Exhaustion with severe weakness in my body
Pain between Shoulder left blade
Severe brain fog
Achiness/ sometimes in muscles
Neck & Back aches & Pains/Upper & Lower Back
Insomnia-non refreshing sleep- wake up tired and nervous
Depression/ anxiety/panic attacks!!!!!! Nervousness/jittery-look fine on outside jittery/nervous on inside
Emotional basket case/ raw emotions/crying
Candida (Root of problems) I have Fungus on my right foot & yellow tint on Big toenail
Brand new sinus problems(2/01) Sneezing fits
Sugar Cravings
Bleeding & Receding Gums
Poor immune system
decline in intellect and speech availability/ word finding (I used to be a straight “A”` student)
Low Blood Sugar
Mood swings (Sometimes like a Bipolar personality)
Periodic Blurring/foggy Vision
Adrenal Burnout/Exhaustion
Memory Declining
Mental Confusion
Irritability
Constipation/Bloated/Poor Digestion/Gas
Hemrroids
Occasional Boils on Rectum
Weight Gain/distended abdomen
Depersonalization
Vertigo/Dizziness/Lightheadedness
Low or slow Metabolism/ Low Thyroid
Liver Congestion
Nutritional Deficiencies
Acne
Chin hairs
Dandruff/white scalp
Low Libido
OCD (Obsessive compulsive disorder like behavior)
Parasites- little white spaghetti noodle looking things/a hand full came out of me last year after a enema.
I believe I have had parasites for a long time (not to sound crude) but I sometimes have an itchy anal area.
Ear itching /popping/drumming
Scanty Perspiration
and oh the list goes on.
Vertical ridges in finger nails and white spots; zinc & stomach acid deficiency
Sound horrid but that's the way it is for me, happen all of a sudden and the gradually.
Well I am hearing so great things about oxygen therapy that makes good sense to me but I would like to know if others are or have use it and wht are your experiences. Did it help with the candida symptoms;Brain fog-fatigue-depression-anxiety? Antifungals are not helping so out of the question and it's been over two years now of suffering. I know I have to continue Liver Flushes too. Does Colosan reach far beyond the intestines or by cleaning the colon you reap the benefits.
Thanks,
Robbie
BTW> I found Colosan for $25.00 The lowest price I have seen so far @ www.familyhealthnews.com
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This is a reply to # 443,483You seem to know a lot about this. I suffer with Ulcerative Colitis and Herpes. I am interested in using oxidative therapies to cure/treat both of them. I tried all kinds of treatments last year with no luck and in the end had to be hospitalized and at that point I went on a drug called Imuran - an immune suppressant. Now my colitis symptoms are better (though not real good) but the herpes breaks out frequently because of my immune system is compromised. It's a terrible catch 22.
My main question is: Do you have any first hand knowledge of anyone being cured or successfully treated by using ozone or hydrogen peroxide? It would be reassuing to talk to them and exchange thoughts if possible as all the "evidence" I've read is anecdotal. I had too many disappointments from failed attempts so I want to investigate as much as possible. I tried the peroxide thing years ago for herpes without success.
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