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I'm hoping you all can give me some advice.. I apparently had a gallbladder attack last week that ended with me in the emergency room. Ultrasound revealed gallstones, though no blockages, they said. Fortunately, it passed, but they want me to have surgery..
I'm now getting the pains again, and have gotten instructions from my doctor to take the medications (phenergan & percoset) and see what happens.. If it gets worse, to go to the hospital.. I don't want to go to the hospital, and I don't want surgery!!
I did a flush on friday, and got out about 115 green stones, largest being about the size of 2 peas.. I had problems with the Epsom Salts , though, as I think it's so alkaline that it changed the pH and I got some yeast problems, to put it nicely, and have developed what seem like sinus-type allergies (sneezing, itchy nose & eyes), which I've never had before.. I eat mostly raw foods, and did that today, but I did eat a turkey sandwich & a hot dog yesterday.. It seems like those things would have caused the problem sooner, if they did it.
Do any of you have any advice on how to get through this without surgery and hospitals??
I can I do another flush at some point without the Epsom Salts ? Will it still work? When should I do it?
How can I be sure that the gallbladder is the issue? They did say they saw stones on the ultrasound, but I want to be sure..
Any help, comments or experiences would be greatly appreciated!!
thanks,
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- Re: Did the flush, but another attac... Adrick
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This is a reply to # 603,596Hey Lauren!!!
I notice you said you had a gallbladder attack on Friday--so I am assuming having gone to emergency room you are no longer having attack???
I had a gallbladder attack--first Assumed it was food poisoning and so was in PAIN for three days before I went to emergency. THEN was in hospital for another 4 or five days, can't recall now!!!
The doctors kept telling kme all throughout this of how they Absolutely had to take out my gallbladder!!! Although during all this Pain they never did. But had me on injections od Demerol I think it was and taking tylenol (NO not with the codeine).
OKAY THEN the doctors never explained anything about what the reasoning behind ANY of this was. I mean of WHY they Needed to take out my gall bladder. Of WHY they did not while I was in the hospital in pain and having an attack.
THEN after all was over they scheduled me for the operation to Reove my gallbladder some two months later!!! LEADING to believe I might add that this ATTACK would RECUR anytime SOON again!!!
I had absolutely no idea what was even going on--nor that I was actually Passing a stone(s) which was why the Pain...
ANYWAY--they DID remove my gallbladder--because they had me afraid of another attack!!! And that it would happen because it HAD happened...
LUCKILY YOU have found Curezone in TIME!!! For I would Never have alloweed the butchers to removed my gallbladder knowing that I now know--and Especially now knowing that the only reason they removed my gallbladder--was Just to do it!!!
So I would say to you--if you are not now in any severe pain o Not allow the butchers to operate!!!
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- Re: Did the flush, but another attac... LaurenK
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This is a reply to # 603,602Hi Adrick,
Thanks so much for responding.. I should have explained - I had the attack last tuesday. Was up all night in SEVERE pain, and went to the ER on wednesday morning. It went away, after they gave me some medication. I then did the flush on friday night.
So, 7 good days since the attack, but I'm having another one (so far much milder). It's not as painful as the last one... YET. I've taken the meds that they gave me at the time, which have helped a bit.
I'm really scared at this point.. my doctor says this will keep happening until I get the GB removed. I don't want it removed!!
I'm curious about your experience.. Did you find that you now have any problems digesting fatty foods now that your gallbladder has been removed? Any other negative impacts that you feel the surgery had on you?
thanks!
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This is a reply to # 603,605One tablespoon of Epsom Salts in a glass of water will stop a gall bladder attack. If the pain does not go away, this dose can be repeated in about an hour.
This is not a replacement for liver flushing. It is just a treatment to stop the attack.
Follow with another Liver Flush as soon as possible.
Keep posting, we are here to help you.
Surgeons like to take out gall bladders. Then they have a money paying patient for ever......they get to keep prescribing drugs to counter the effects of having NO gall bladder. They are not getting my gall bladder and I hope they do not get yours either.
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This is a reply to # 603,607Thanks so much.. I've taken 1 teaspoon of Epsom Salts in water, perhaps that wasn't enough. It was only about 10 minutes ago, but it hasn't had any effect yet.
When would you suggest I do the next flush?
Is it a good idea to do it during an attack?
Lauren- Re: Did the flush, but another attac... Joe25
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lauren, stay away from those foods like hotdog that you described. Even though it was a day before the attack that you ate this, it still may not be a good idea to eat these kinds of "bad fat" foods. Keep eating only raw/cooked vegtables. Raw fruits. Drink plenty of water, and fresh squeezed citrus juices. Wait until attacks subside and do another flush as soon as possible. You do need the Epsom Salt to open the bile ducts, but if you are having a reaction to it I don't know what to tell you. You'll have to determine whether you can handle it. The Epsom Salts open the bile ducts and the olive oil pulls the stones out. Do whatever you can to save your gallbladder.
keep healthy and God Bless....
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This is a reply to # 603,624I was right here at curezone....too bad you did not find this place before they butchered you !!
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This is a reply to # 603,605I had my GB out last year before I had the knowledge that I have now. I continue to have pain and indigestion related to foods I eat. Taking out your GB will not solve your problem. Only you can by flushing your liver too. You will need several more flushes to get out the larger stones. I am doing my third tonight. See my pics of my last flush in the Liver Flush images.
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This is a reply to # 603,605OH HEY Lauren!!!
AND ACTUALLY you DID mention another Attack was Starting: I can't Read!!! ( Thanks to my World famous American Public Education !!! --NOT )
Oh, SORRY...
Um me and Fatty food digestive Problems--actually not that I have noticed and BELIEVE me I Absolutely love Pizza Hut pan pizza mucho cheese and pepperoni!!! AND Cheeseburgers Extra cheeese and mayo. AND hotdogs. OH--did I forget FRIES: my Achilles heel!!!
I'm an incorrigible scumbag!!! OH did I say Peanut Butter??? OOOPS!!!
AND PASTA: cold heavy mayo--albeit with salmon!!!
OOOPS!!! Supposedly all the Carbohydrates from the pasta are NOT good for my liver!!! AND I LOVE BREAD!!!
NO, I don't seem to really notice any digestive problems!!!
And I have recently had some REALLY good Results from my Liver Flushes!!! Am TRYING to give my Liver a Break!!!
BUT hey--if I had it to do over again--I would Absolutely NOT let the butcher doctors take my gall bladder out--But ask Tracey and all about the Liver Flushes and Sucess stories...Anything I say is only MY opinion!!! I am only Discovering how my Body works by Trial and Error: Experimentation and more Intuitively than Scientifically. Which is actually new for me because I am a Logical, mathematical person. But am now Getting In Touch with my Intuitive Right Brain NOW!!!
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This is a reply to # 603,623Thanks to all of you who responded.. You guys are my lifeline right now!! It's getting pretty scary - it's getting worse as the night goes on. I've taken one dose of Epsom Salts , but it did nothing. I guess I'll try a second.
I'm debating going to the ER.. I'm really scared of trying to tough out another night with one of these attacks.. The last one I was up all night, and finally went to the ER at 5:30am. The night is SO long when you're in this much pain!! I really don't think they can do anything for me, aside for give me more drugs or surgery, which I DON'T WANT!!
Should I be going there, though, at least for them to do an ultrasound? If it becomes a complete blockage, you can die from it, can't you?!
The other surprising thing is - I'M STARVING.. I'm afraid to eat, though.. Any advice?
Anything else I can do to help free up the stone?
Thanks again.. You guys are great!!
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This is a reply to # 603,633HOLD ON I just found MORE INFO about what to do let me find the Posting!!! Back ASAP!!!
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This is a reply to # 603,633HEY--
I just cut and pasted this from the same forum 21 hours ago Scroll Down at Forum for Original Posting...but here it is:
Subject: Re: diagnosed with gallstone pancreatitis
From: Lapis < no email > | Show All messages posted by Lapis |
Date: 00:34 Jul 09 2003 (21 h)
Colonics before and after and keep flushing until the pain is relieved. I would use Andreas Moritz 's flush in this case and follow it closely. Make sure yo lie on your right side, perferably in the fetal position during the first half hour of the flush This should reduce the odds of stones lodging in the pancreatic duct. I had pancreatitis and two colonics relieved it I have not suffered from pancreatitis since. I am doing flush # 10 as we speak.
Good luck. Say hi to your gall bladder for me. I'm sure it's as glad as gall bladders can be, that you have decided to keep it.
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This is a reply to # 603,633I KNOW the FEELING!!! Was in PAIN a full week--no amount of medication they gave me rid me of the pain. I did not sleep 1 or 2 hours each day...ate nothing...
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This is a reply to # 603,638Thank you so much for the info.. You are a sweetheart!!
Based on the fact that your message mentions what to do surrounding a cleanse, am I correct in thinking that you're suggesting that I do the cleanse during the attack?
My colon is pretty clean.. I did a thorough colon cleansing recently, and have since been eating nearly 100% raw foods (of course, I cheated, and ended up with this attack!). The constipation I had for YEARS is gone, and the transit time seems about 24 hours. Given that, I'd thought it better not to do colonics, and I feel that they wipe out the intestinal flora.. I'd do it, though, if it help dislodge the stones in my gallbladder..
Thank you again!
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This is a reply to # 603,642TABLESPOON of Epsom Salts in a glass of water.
If relief is not achieved, repeat dose in about an hour.
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This is a reply to # 603,633For your pain try a teaspoon or two of apple cider vinegar (Bragg's is best, avail at health food store) in a cup of pure unrefined apple juice.
Can also put a heating pad or hot water bottle over the painful area. Massage the area.
Lay down, consciously relax the painful area - let it go. Breathe long deep slow breaths into the area and affirm that all is right with your body. Visualize the stone(s) moving through the ducts easily.
Breathe deeply some more and let go of the fear. Relax into the knowing that you have come to the right place and are being guided to do what is for the highest good of your body.
Healing is a process and it will take some time. When you are having acute pain like this it is best to eat only raw or cooked vegetables with no oil, dip or sauce on them. Can have with a little Bragg's liquid Aminos and Salt-Free Spike for seasoning. Could also have a little plain rice or other whole grain. Drink only purified water.
Until pain passes, completely stay away from any meats, dairy products, any kind of oil, and any wheat products, refined or whole grain - wheat aggravates the liver/digestive system.
Follow these dietary guidelines to the T and your pain will start to subside.
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This is a reply to # 603,654Georgina,
Thank you very much for your words of wisdom.. I tried the things you mentioned, with the exception of the apple cider vinegar. I have to get some. Unfortunately, nothing has helped yet. I'll kee trying!
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This is a reply to # 603,662Lauren,
The apple cider vinegar usually works pretty good sometimes in minutes! Even if you only have Heinz or whatever give it a try.
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This is a reply to # 603,596hi, i usually just read the posts and don't participate in the forum, but i feel i should share this info with you. i've done 2 flushes to date. my first flush was a rough experience,and wasn't one of the suggested flushes at this website. i decided to do the clark method the second time and it was a lot easier to handle than the first one. so here's my experience. after my first flush, i could still "feel" my liver and was concerned that i didn't finish the job all the way. i'm on dr. shultz' mailing list as i've ordered his products before. i decided to take some liver herbs, and i would do his liver flush drink. i put 1 cup apple juice, 1 cup of water, 1 tablespoon of olive oil and put in a peice of fresh ginger (from the grocery store) about the size of my thumb into a blender. i drank it down, and about in 1/2 hour i was running to the bathroom with the same urgency as with epsom salts. mind you, i did this 4-5 days after my flush. there were stones in the toilet. perhaps the fresh ginger dilates the bile ducts too. he doesn't use epsom salts at all. i'm new to flushing, so i can't say for sure, maybe somebody out there can comment. next flush i'm going to use the ginger in place of the last dose of epsom salts and see what happens. hope this helps.
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